Mormons outraged after Hegseth military policy no longer counts LDS as Christian

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mormon-reaction-hegseth-religion-list-christian-b2991385.html

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/47886949

Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.

“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.

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paper_moon@lemmy.world · 122 pts · 72d (44 replies)

Uh ohhh, the inner circle is shrinking

The people who thought they'd be in the 'in group' once again find themselves in the 'out group' who could have possibly seen this coming?

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 41 pts · 72d

First they came for the trade unionists.

Then they came for absolutely no one else.

ThePyroPython@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 72d

The inner circle is always shrinking, it's part of the fascistic "eternal struggle" bullshit; there's always got to be an enemy.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 72d (1 reply)

If Hegsworth wasn't drunk he could have played an Uno reverse and asked the Mormon's who gets in their heaven.

But them fracturing early is a huge boon to the rest of us. The Christian right has sunk a lot of time, efforts, and their daughters into converting our military officers, especially in the Air Force. Not to mention how they go after young politicians desperate for funding.

But trump is co-opting their plans and forcing them early.

If they had another decade or two, they'd likely have their faithful in full control of our government and military, then we wouldn't even have noticed a coup. They'd have just denied it was happening and pretended it was coincidence.

finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d

If they had another decade or two, they’d likely have their faithful in full control of our government and military

Zionists mutter knowingly amongst themselves in babykiller.

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · -5 pts · 72d (39 replies)

me when dealing with electoralist who thought their ‘in-party’ will once implement issue X find themselves in the ‘out-party’ who could have possibly seen electoralism coming?
enemy of ‘perfection’ propaganda

paper_moon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d (38 replies)

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're hinting at with this line

me when dealing with...

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · -5 pts · 71d (37 replies)

same thing ThePyroPython replied to you. A Democrat or Republican, the in-party will always find a way to outstrip your rights every ballot. You're nothing but a vote for their seats in office.

Unless, I am wrong, and I am speaking to a Senator.

paper_moon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d (36 replies)

What reaction were you hoping from this comment?

Unless, I am wrong, and I am speaking to a Senator.

Serinus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d (5 replies)

His point is "both sides" even though it's very clearly bullshit here.

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 0 pts · 71d (4 replies)

What's bullshit about the Electoral College?

ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 71d

Everything about the electoral college is bullshit.

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · -3 pts · 71d (29 replies)

Reaction? Are we both not progressives?
Are you in power? ’Cause I empower people. Do you?

paper_moon@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 71d (28 replies)

Empower? You really lost me here

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 72d (5 replies)

The wild thing is that they were always going to turn on the Mormons. The evangelicals fucking hate the LDS Church, and they've been pretty candid about that for a long time. But the Mormons so badly wanted to be in the conservative Christian gang they convinced themselves they would always be accepted.

The evangelicals treated the Mormons like useful idiots. Now they think they have no use for them. So they've become just idiots.

HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 36 pts · 71d (3 replies)

This right here is the shit I've been waiting for. They'll turn on Catholics soon enough and I'm shocked Jehovah's Witnesses exist in the list at all since there's literally no members allowed to do anything in the military not even non-combat. Evangelicals aren't even a homogenous group in and of themselves, consisting of the likes of Baptists and Pentecostals who disagree strongly about... certain things.

They all used to piss and bitch and fight each other all the time. Seems they realized they were all headed for the dustbin of history recently, but I knew it couldn't last forever...

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 71d (1 reply)

Exactly. Catholics will be next. Then Orthodox and Coptic church members, and yeah the JWs. Oh, and the liberal Lutherans and Episcopalians too.

And then the evangelicals will start cannibalizing each other. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if some of them unify into a single church that worships Trump as a prophet (profit? Haha), and that group viciously takes down any other evangelicals still standing.

Hopefully things don't get to that point.

wackyheartfluid@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 71d

Amen

Freeposity@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d

consisting of the likes of Baptists and Pentecostals who disagree strongly about… certain things.

My great grandmother was part of a Pentacostal church that split in half over a single bible verse. But they were both still speaking in tongue after the split.

worhui@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 71d

Catholics are up soon. Evangelicals will flat out try and convert them since they are not Christians.

Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 72d (1 reply)

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 72d

Say "'MURICA" ONE MORE TIME

roofuskit@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 72d

Have the day you voted for!

_lilith@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 71d (2 replies)

good thing they scammed that dying man out of his legos

finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 71d

This.

This is what the Mormons are now known for, and forever shall be. Owning the police terrorists who are the private army of the Mormon Bricks & Minifigs thieves who scammed a dying man out of his LEGOs.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d

"Mormon business owners would rather weaponize the police than return stolen goods." Great job Utah Police for protecting criminals.

solrize@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 72d (1 reply)

As long as they list the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, I'm good. The Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912 will of course burn in Hades forever.

MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 72d (1 reply)

The second m is silent.

Zier@fedia.io · 10 pts · 71d

Mormons.

Epp@lemmus.org · 17 pts · 71d (2 replies)

As the outcast in a large family of Mormon Trump followers, I love this news. It's almost worth reaching out to those I cut off to ask them how happy they remain with their votes.

Freeposity@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d (1 reply)

Do you think they even know? Most of the Trump dipshits are in their own information bubbles and things like this generally don't penetrate their thick skulls.

Epp@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 70d

Since some are in the armed forces, probably.

RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 72d (5 replies)

That’s 4 electoral votes in play right there!!

harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 72d (2 replies)

Four electoral votes that'll vote Republican no matter what.

gdog05@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 72d (1 reply)

I don't know if you understand Mormon culture or not. They spent decades of lobbying and advertising to be counted as Christians in the first place. Fucking with the church holds more sway to them than anything else. The church being shunned like this means the church will have to send a message and they own all of the politicians outright.

Linktank@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 71d

They're owned by Israel, who are you kidding?

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 72d

Plus Idaho, which also has a lot of Mormon influence.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
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iconic_admin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 72d (1 reply)

They’re turning on each other now.

Zier@fedia.io · 6 pts · 71d

Once they eliminate each other, the rapture will be complete. mwhahahaha

vk6flab@lemmy.radio · 14 pts · 72d

.. as you sow, so shall you reap ..

SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 72d (2 replies)

If you care about people like Hegseth counting you as a Christian, I have good news and bad news for you.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d (1 reply)

Well, I don't count Hegseth as a Christian, either. He is one of those who interprets "love thy next" with a very limited range of "nexts", and they are as bigoted as he is.

SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 71d

I don't count Hegseth as a Christian, either.

That's the good news.

noxypaws@pawb.social · 13 pts · 71d

Suck it, Prop 8 shitheads

Clutter@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 71d (2 replies)

Getting a taste of being excluded are we?

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 2 pts · 71d (1 reply)
Clutter@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d

Their Christians. They always feel excluded or persecuted.

wesker@lemmy.sdf.org · 12 pts · 72d (10 replies)

LDS will ruin your day if you piss them off.

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 72d (8 replies)

Unless I miss judging them I doubt they're going to fuck up the entire federal government.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 71d

Well, they could try. It would be a win-win.

fratermus@piefed.social · 2 pts · 71d (2 replies)

... I doubt they’re going to fuck up the entire federal government.

If the plan is for the LDS church to take over rescue America after the entire Federal government falters, what's a little accelerationism between friends?

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d (1 reply)

Are they strangely powerful outside of their normal territory? There's like 30k of them according to a google search.

fratermus@piefed.social · 1 pts · 70d

I don't know how many LDS folk are explicit White Horsers.

My understanding is the average Mormon has a highly developed interest in self-sufficiency and preparedness.* So even if the normie LDS aren't White Horsers their preparedness would be useful to White Horsers during the chaos of any theocratic transition.


  • which I respect generally, although I am not a fan of the New Mormon Overlords prophecy stuff
reddig33@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 72d (3 replies)
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a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d (2 replies)

Am I reading correct that they spent only a couple of grand? That isn't a lot.

reddig33@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d (1 reply)

Yep you’re right. Supposedly the LDS church doesn’t donate to political campaigns (per Google). Though I find it difficult to believe they don’t use their massive fortune to influence elections.

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 72d

There aren't that many of them and I don't believe the influence is that big outside of where they live.

I mean, yeah, the government loves hiring them. But that's because they don't have any of the traditional vices. They don't get drunk cuz they don't.....

But I don't think they're ending the fed anytime soon.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 72d

We will see.

fratermus@piefed.social · 5 pts · 71d

"Hey, my Invisible Sky Friend deserves to be in the Cool Invisible Sky Friend club like all the other Invisible Sky Friends!"

Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 70d

Let them fight.

apftwb@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d

Something something Legos

Zier@fedia.io · 3 pts · 71d

It is wrong what whisky pete did. Mormons are exactly the same cult as all other christians.