First cycle of the dishwasher is just a hot water rinse to get a head start on removing debris that gets drained away. Then it refills and deploys detergent and spends most of the rest of the time in this cycle before rinsing and drying. So, I mean, I don't recommend it, but it will be drained a few minutes into the cycle and the dishwasher will actually clean with detergents after with no pee left. So, it really won't hurt anything besides your relationship with your family/roommates.
You say that sarcastically but it is true piss really would not require any specialized cleaner to remove. But when it comes to baked on cheese eggs things like that the protein in them makes them very difficult to remove with just water and it needs emulsifiers and surfactants to help break it down and remove it
This is the logic behind Japanese toilets having a tiny hand sink over the commode so you wash your hands with the water that’s being used to refill the basin.
Why not use it that way? You’re just going to pee in it later.
I talked in depth with a doctor friend about this, and there’s a chance it works, but it’s most likely just your immune system and you paying more attention to keeping your feet dry
I’d never heard of these, and I’m looking at them now. It’s a cool idea, but without ever using one, I think I agree with you. The basin is necessarily tiny, forcing you to make a mess, and 30 seconds of cold water isn’t going to get all the soap off. Have any of you ever used one and found it satisfactory?
Hmm, dishwashers are designed to use as little water as possible. The drain doesn't actually drain right away but might be circulated back into the system. No idea what it does with any fluids before it's turned on but I wouldn't risk it.
In mine, any fluids added before starting just sit in the tub at the bottom. The first thing it does after starting is run the pump though, so piss away I guess..
"The dose makes the poison", it's not uncommon for water to be a little contaminated, but dishwashers are also supposed to get hot enough to sterilize the water being used to wash the dishes. So you might get a bit of piss in your dishwater, it'll be sterile, and most of it will get carried away with the water being used to wash off the other junk before sterilizing and rinsing.
Now im curious about the design of both your machines, all the regular styles i know of are definitely easier to unload in the dishwasher.
Do you have a top loading washing machine? Crawling up on it doesnt seem that much easier
I’d say most people of average height can easily get up on a washing machine just with their ass. And if it’s top load, then you’ve certainly got a nice big hole to shit in. Probably bigger than most toilets, though both come in different sizes. That central agitator might get in the way though, so you’ll probably have to shit to the side of it, or in front or behind. Usually I also have to piss while I shit, and that would get in the way there too. Especially considering splash back. Now ironically you are literarally directly next to running hot and cold water, but you can’t use it to wash your hands, which one should do after shitting. So you might have to go to the bathroom sink anyway. So if you were trying to save yourself a trip to the bathroom you didn’t save any time there. Wiping is probably okay if you have a dirty laundry basket or pile close by. You’ll have to be sure to wipe with appropriate colors and loading groups. Like you wouldn’t want to do one wipe with a towel and another wipe with a delicate item. Again your old friend toilet paper back in the bathroom is saving you time, as you don’t have to sort anything before you wipe. The more I think about this, it’s almost as if having a specific appliance or device specifically designed for accommodating the act of defecating is probably preferable as opposed to repurposing other devices not specifically designed for that purpose. In conclusion, I have my doubts about the efficacy of these life hacks.
See, this is where the nuances enter. My dishwasher is my hands, so I much prefer my top loader washing machine and keep on super load wash to get the corn kernals clean enough to pluck before the dryer.
This is just blatantly untrue. I know for a fact its possible to miss, especially if you've got some food poisoning and your balance isnt the best. You've clearly never seen a full sized dish washer. I've seen industrial laundry machines with smaller openings.
Oh, my mistake, I was referring to the top loader being a bigger opening that a standard toilet, for peons. Plus there is a nice little cup in the middle for your testes, as to not soil them in the ensuing melee.
Piss in the dishwasher? I'd rather not. I got fired the last time I put my penis in a dishwasher. To be fair she was only 19... There's no telling what'll happen if I had pissed as well
They are also able to vote. That does upset me to a small degree. If they are willing to piss in their own dishwasher what are they willing to vote into law?
This guy I knew who worked at a dishwasher factory said that when clients or investors or whatever would come in, they would put a birthday cake in one of their demo units and take them on a tour of the plant and when they came back they would open the machine and the birthday cake would be completely gone, spotless.
I worked as a dishwasher maybe 15 years ago? Nothing needed to be scrubbed. Scrape and put into tray. Once tray was filled slide into dishwasher and pull down handle. Wait about 60 seconds and pull up handle. Slide rack out. Receive 4th degree burns without using a towel to grab dishes.
Tip #2 is not relevant in Europe and most other places using 230V mains because the dishwashers are only connected to cold water and have their own heater.
I think a lot of the time involved is to keep the process quiet, an industrial dishwasher is fast but loud as fuck. I wouldn't mind being given that choice with a home dishwasher though.
Price is also a major factor. Restaurants won't balk at paying thousands for an industrial grade dishwasher if it can replace or greatly reduce the demand for a human dishwasher. Even at low restaurant wages, it doesn't take long for a $6000 dishwasher to pay for itself. On the other hand, if the only dishwashers available cost that much, if there were no dishwashers at a consumer price point? Most people would just go without one in their home.
93 Comments
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 109 pts · 73d
First cycle of the dishwasher is just a hot water rinse to get a head start on removing debris that gets drained away. Then it refills and deploys detergent and spends most of the rest of the time in this cycle before rinsing and drying. So, I mean, I don't recommend it, but it will be drained a few minutes into the cycle and the dishwasher will actually clean with detergents after with no pee left. So, it really won't hurt anything besides your relationship with your family/roommates.
SethW@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 72d
Are you not adding detergent to the prewash!?
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world · 93 pts · 72d
Quick bury them in the multi hour technology connections dishwasher Playlist!!!
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 72d
I'm reminded to check out what else he's put out recently. I really enjoyed his EV take last year.
Edit: damn, nothing since the hybrid video. :(
RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 72d
Well there's some stuff on his Connextras
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 72d
You can if it needs it for baked on food. It's not necessary for most washes though
sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 72d
Yeah you're right my piss doesn't require any extra cleaning. Brownies though? Put every house hold cleaner into the pre-wash
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 72d
You say that sarcastically but it is true piss really would not require any specialized cleaner to remove. But when it comes to baked on cheese eggs things like that the protein in them makes them very difficult to remove with just water and it needs emulsifiers and surfactants to help break it down and remove it
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 72d
Your dishes aren't really CLEAN until they have flashbacks to passchendaele.
BurgerBaron@quokk.au · 7 pts · 72d
Glares in Alec Watson
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 72d
Might as well take a duke in there, too
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 73d
This is the logic behind Japanese toilets having a tiny hand sink over the commode so you wash your hands with the water that’s being used to refill the basin.
Why not use it that way? You’re just going to pee in it later.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 53 pts · 73d
I mean it is clean, drinkable water that is used to wash the toilet.
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 73d
Just piss over your hands like the rest of us, that's plenty clean.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 44 pts · 73d
ampy@discuss.online · 27 pts · 73d
Wtf???
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 73d
Camel pee has passable antibacterial properties, some tribes shower in it for hygiene.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 72d
Plus you get that lovely fragrant camel piss smell.
concerned@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 72d
Budweiser?
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 72d
Can't be worse than having a smoker in the same room.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 73d
I prefer to piss over others. I'm selfless like that
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 73d
I had a housemate who insisted the best way to treat his athlete's foot was to piss on his feet in the shower.
Nastybutler@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 72d
Maybe not the best way, but it is the cheapest way. I did that in college too when I had a mild case of it and was too broke to afford Tinactin
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
I talked in depth with a doctor friend about this, and there’s a chance it works, but it’s most likely just your immune system and you paying more attention to keeping your feet dry
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 73d
That tiny sink is very inconvenient for use.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 73d
When space is at a premium, it's a great idea
Starik@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 72d
I’d never heard of these, and I’m looking at them now. It’s a cool idea, but without ever using one, I think I agree with you. The basin is necessarily tiny, forcing you to make a mess, and 30 seconds of cold water isn’t going to get all the soap off. Have any of you ever used one and found it satisfactory?
jdr@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 73d
Just stick your hands in the bowl then
deacon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 72d
Only for having a poo.
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 72d
But then if I don't wash my hands, the tank doesn't get filled. I will not tolerate this level of coercion.
bilb@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 72d
You will be coerced to tolerate it!
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 38 pts · 73d
Hmm, dishwashers are designed to use as little water as possible. The drain doesn't actually drain right away but might be circulated back into the system. No idea what it does with any fluids before it's turned on but I wouldn't risk it.
AugustusBeauvais@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 73d
In mine, any fluids added before starting just sit in the tub at the bottom. The first thing it does after starting is run the pump though, so piss away I guess..
skankhunt42@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 73d
I'll be over later today. Thanks.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 73d
Yeah, but not all of it. It leaves an inch or two down in the motor/ filter area.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 72d
I'm wondering if urea is helpful for the prewash cycle or not.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 72d
Asking the real questions.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 73d
"The dose makes the poison", it's not uncommon for water to be a little contaminated, but dishwashers are also supposed to get hot enough to sterilize the water being used to wash the dishes. So you might get a bit of piss in your dishwater, it'll be sterile, and most of it will get carried away with the water being used to wash off the other junk before sterilizing and rinsing.
Syndication@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 73d
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 73d
Live a little!
SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 73d
This is why I poop in the washing machine. Bigger opening so I can't miss. And, as we all know, it will get... Washed.
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 73d
I had always cleaned the turd out of it. But now I know I can shit directly into the bleach repository my life should improve.
0x0@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 73d
Now im curious about the design of both your machines, all the regular styles i know of are definitely easier to unload in the dishwasher. Do you have a top loading washing machine? Crawling up on it doesnt seem that much easier
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 73d
I’d say most people of average height can easily get up on a washing machine just with their ass. And if it’s top load, then you’ve certainly got a nice big hole to shit in. Probably bigger than most toilets, though both come in different sizes. That central agitator might get in the way though, so you’ll probably have to shit to the side of it, or in front or behind. Usually I also have to piss while I shit, and that would get in the way there too. Especially considering splash back. Now ironically you are literarally directly next to running hot and cold water, but you can’t use it to wash your hands, which one should do after shitting. So you might have to go to the bathroom sink anyway. So if you were trying to save yourself a trip to the bathroom you didn’t save any time there. Wiping is probably okay if you have a dirty laundry basket or pile close by. You’ll have to be sure to wipe with appropriate colors and loading groups. Like you wouldn’t want to do one wipe with a towel and another wipe with a delicate item. Again your old friend toilet paper back in the bathroom is saving you time, as you don’t have to sort anything before you wipe. The more I think about this, it’s almost as if having a specific appliance or device specifically designed for accommodating the act of defecating is probably preferable as opposed to repurposing other devices not specifically designed for that purpose. In conclusion, I have my doubts about the efficacy of these life hacks.
SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 72d
See, this is where the nuances enter. My dishwasher is my hands, so I much prefer my top loader washing machine and keep on super load wash to get the corn kernals clean enough to pluck before the dryer.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 72d
This is just blatantly untrue. I know for a fact its possible to miss, especially if you've got some food poisoning and your balance isnt the best. You've clearly never seen a full sized dish washer. I've seen industrial laundry machines with smaller openings.
SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 72d
Oh, my mistake, I was referring to the top loader being a bigger opening that a standard toilet, for peons. Plus there is a nice little cup in the middle for your testes, as to not soil them in the ensuing melee.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 72d
Piss in the dishwasher? I'd rather not. I got fired the last time I put my penis in a dishwasher. To be fair she was only 19... There's no telling what'll happen if I had pissed as well
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 72d
That's how you keep her from getting pregante.
jdr@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 72d
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 72d
I share a world with these people who have these specific thoughts. I'm not angry about it or anything, just a realization.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 72d
They are also able to vote. That does upset me to a small degree. If they are willing to piss in their own dishwasher what are they willing to vote into law?
NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 72d
Urine powered dishwashers of course
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 72d
RFK approved
bstix@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 72d
I think it's natural for people to have unconventional ideas. That's how humans evovle.
Especially if they have the stupid ideas before they have children.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 72d
I had the unconventional idea that "tourniquet" should just be spelled "turny-kit" because who the hell came up with spelling it like that
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d
Same world and this is a movie.
Allero@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 72d
Luckily, thoughts and actions are two different things.
spacegoat@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 72d
Which dishwasher? The poop knife dishwasher?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 72d
It's all pipes!!!
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d
In this house the poop knife is hand wash only, thankyouverymuch.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 72d
Also with very gentle detergent! We care about poop knife.
rounding_error@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 72d
Poop knife is all fun and games until you cut yourself with it.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 73d
Piss in your pasta water, you're about to throw away the water anyway.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 72d
Why salt the pasta water. Just cum in it like a normal person.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d
[ spits out carbonara in shock ]
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 72d
Weird, my cum tastes like bleach. My nut sweat, however...
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 72d
:)
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 72d
Quick, someone call Alec to do an hour-long YouTube video investigating this!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKI-5kTBAGwlm_CbFva49Z7J81rRsnyAN
5oap10116@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 73d
If my shower recirculated water id surely piss into it as well. Instead it's all just wasted down the drain...
sundray@lemmus.org · 12 pts · 73d
If they're into it, then why not?
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 73d
I can just see April spraying over her dishes in a half squat with her pants around her knees.
Go gurl
altphoto@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 73d
Well, I almost never do that.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 72d
I guess it's good I don't have a dishwasher.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 72d
Do you just pee straight into the sink? Cuz that's a little odd tbh.
lb_o@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 72d
Yeah, dishwasher is more preferable than the sink. Sink is gross.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 72d
"No, April. That is wrong! Please leave my house party!"
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 72d
This guy I knew who worked at a dishwasher factory said that when clients or investors or whatever would come in, they would put a birthday cake in one of their demo units and take them on a tour of the plant and when they came back they would open the machine and the birthday cake would be completely gone, spotless.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 5 pts · 72d
I think it's doing a lot more cleaning than it needs to, considering industrial ones in restaurants take less than a minute
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 72d
Ime dishes get precleaned more before they go into the industrial dishwasher.
You scrape in the trash, scrub in the sink, and rinse/sanitize in the dishwasher. At least that's how my kitchen was, like a quarter-century ago.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 72d
I worked as a dishwasher maybe 15 years ago? Nothing needed to be scrubbed. Scrape and put into tray. Once tray was filled slide into dishwasher and pull down handle. Wait about 60 seconds and pull up handle. Slide rack out. Receive 4th degree burns without using a towel to grab dishes.
YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 72d
Are you even working in a kitchen if you're not being burned, scalded, steamed or fried?
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 5 pts · 72d
I used to have to do more precleaning than that with a home dishwasher before I watched Technology Connections
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 72d
Explain please?
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 72d
Just watch it yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0
Tip #2 is not relevant in Europe and most other places using 230V mains because the dishwashers are only connected to cold water and have their own heater.
FluorineBalloon@programming.dev · 6 pts · 72d
I think a lot of the time involved is to keep the process quiet, an industrial dishwasher is fast but loud as fuck. I wouldn't mind being given that choice with a home dishwasher though.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 72d
Also way hotter than a residential one. I actually cooked salmon in one when I worked on a cruise ship. Surprisingly effective.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d
Price is also a major factor. Restaurants won't balk at paying thousands for an industrial grade dishwasher if it can replace or greatly reduce the demand for a human dishwasher. Even at low restaurant wages, it doesn't take long for a $6000 dishwasher to pay for itself. On the other hand, if the only dishwashers available cost that much, if there were no dishwashers at a consumer price point? Most people would just go without one in their home.
Tiral@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d
That's how some cooks are with deep fryers. Drop it on the floor? It's cool tmit all dies in the deep fryer.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 72d
What about after you run it
flandish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 72d
thats just “before next time”
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d
Some say pee is sterile, so it might sterilize them for you.
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 72d
Just in case you're curious, it very much is not.
NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 72d
April, you're supposed to be a maid