TIL that cars in Europe have grown average 1.2cm longer every year since 2000
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/24/carspreading-vehicle-size-crash-deaths-study
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/24/carspreading-vehicle-size-crash-deaths-study
62 Comments
Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz · 128 pts · 46d
Not sure about the accuracy of this, my car is still the same length as it was ten years ago.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 57 pts · 46d
Mine got 8cm shorter when the rear bumper fell off. So, it's safer.
Ghoelian@piefed.social · 26 pts · 46d
I don't think that's very typical
RobotToaster@mander.xyz · 21 pts · 46d
At least the front didn't fall off.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 46d
I imagine you driving.


StillAlive@piefed.world · 10 pts · 46d
Stop giving it junk food.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
Mine is a smart car. I need a pill to make it grow into a suburban.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
I have a car that hasn't grown any longer, but it has grown taller.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
You're the exception that proves the rule.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 91 pts · 46d
Cars do not grow. Don't listen to this guy. My car is the same size as when I bought it.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 43 pts · 46d
Don't you water it regularly?
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 46d
Water? Not for AI datacenters? In this economy?
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
Sometimes it's not growing by itself. Don't put too much pressure on that issue and enjoy just the other aspects of it.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
Yeah, yeah, yeah, always one or two nay sayers. You people are so sure of yourselfs.
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 46d
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 45d
I thought it was more of a grower vs shower dynamic?
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 46d
FishFace@piefed.social · 52 pts · 46d
The length is bad but the 0.5cm extra width per year strikes me as much worse. There's a lot of room for longer vehicles than the average cars of yesteryear - vans and light trucks have always been around. But those vehicles tended to only be slightly wider, if at all, in order to fit into lanes on the road, parking spaces, through gateways and so on. Half a centimetre wider per year is insane.
Ghoelian@piefed.social · 27 pts · 46d
I would hope countries will just stop approving cars as road legal if they are too wide to fit on the roads.
I do occasionally see the odd range rover in the Netherlands. It's always hilariously out of place, and of course does not fit in any single parking space here. But they have to drive around with a special license plate for import vehicles, apparently it's fine then.
FishFace@piefed.social · 8 pts · 46d
There are loads here, and I immediately think that whoever's driving it is a bad person.
klu9@piefed.social · 5 pts · 46d
Where's "here"?
FishFace@piefed.social · 4 pts · 46d
You can work it out from my other posts but I don't go around advertising it when I can help it...
Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 46d
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 46d
How about the dumbshits that import Ram trucks there? Recently read an article about it. I dunno how any of you guys could drive our pickup trucks at all there.
Ghoelian@piefed.social · 1 pts · 44d
Oh yes actually it's ram trucks I was thinking of, I dont think range rovers are that absurdly big. Still big, just less.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 46d
Maybe you need to invite in China’s “belt and road” people to cinch in that extra width.
darklamer@feddit.org · 27 pts · 45d
There's something very fishy about this claim, I happen to own a European car from the year 2000 so I just went out to the garage and measured it, just to be sure, and it's still exactly the same length as it was when it was brand new.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 45d
Did you make sure not to use the cars built-in measurement utility? That would have grown too, you know…
darklamer@feddit.org · 2 pts · 45d
My car really is from the year 2000, far too old to have any built-in measurement utility.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 45d
Damn… it got to the external ones too.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 44d
Did you measure from the car's asshole?
Etterra@discuss.online · 21 pts · 46d
This just illustrates the importance of hiring a professional to trim back the cars periodically. You could do it yourself, but the heavy industrial equipment necessary for routine gardening like this is just too bulky and expensive for the average person to be able to use.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
I don't want to make my engine bleed. It squirmed the last time I tried to do it myself and I ended up nicking the engine and it leaked eveywhere.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 46d
Some of this is safety equipment and more recently batteries and hybrid equipment, which takes up space. Some of this is simply design and aesthetics.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 46d
My hybrid Suzuki Ignis (ugliest car on the planet) is smaller than my Suzuki Swift, which is supposed to be a small car.
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 46d
The Pontiac Aztec is uglier.
username123@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 46d
Beauty is in the eye of the SUV holder
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
The Aztec isn't even close to the ugliest car ever made. It's a meme at this point.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 44d
The Aztec had the PT cruiser existing at the same time to make sure it wasn't the ugliest car.
username123@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 40d
And I happened to think they were both cool as a kid. A split window in the rear? An unnecessarily large grill like old studebakers? Why not! More hot wheels fodder. The pt cruiser interior was also very comfy.
SpaceDuck@feddit.org · 1 pts · 45d
I have a small Peugeot e-208. You don’t need some massive SUV to go electric. Renault 5 is another small example. There are electric sedans available too.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 12 pts · 46d
1.2 cm? You know which body parts grow much faster?
The hair!
😇
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 46d
And nails
Photonic@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 45d
Not only longer but also wider and taller… it’s an obesity pandemic that has blown over from the US.
Can someone prescribe some ozempic to these cars?
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
Wait, it's contagious!?!?
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 0 pts · 45d
Safety regulations require things like better crumple zones. The seating areas aren't significantly larger.
Photonic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
Nah that’s not just it. People used to drive sedans and hatchbacks, now everyone and their mother has an SUV
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 44d
It's all related. You can't add a thousand pounds of safety equipment and larger crumple zones and make a full size sedan that consistently gets 40+ mpg.
Companies pivoted to the SUV because it didn't have to have absurdly good fuel efficiency, and people liked being "bigger" despite often having less space than full size sedans.
Photonic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 44d
There’s no reason to make it worse just because it’s already a bit bad. Hatchbacks and sedans still exist and they really don’t have anywhere near 1000lbs of extra safety equipment.
It’s just a trend that blew over from the US. Here is some more info.
elephantium@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 46d
What are they feeding them?!
catbum@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
mcchickens
homoludens@feddit.org · 8 pts · 46d
To be fair, people have been complaining that here are too many cars in the cities for a long time. By making the cars bigger you naturally decrease the number of cars per area!
eleijeep@piefed.social · 6 pts · 46d
If they're going to make these cars that grow longer every year, are they also going to build garages that get longer too? In my day, cars stayed the same length for the whole time you owned them. I suppose it's good for parents that have growing teenagers and need more leg room in the back.
teft@piefed.social · 6 pts · 46d
Does this mean cars have plate tectonics?
RobotToaster@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 46d
A lot is extra safety features. It would be illegal to sell the original mini today.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 5 pts · 46d
I remember that my parents car still didn't have seat belts in the back when I was a kid...
Magister@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
Same, my father's car (Citroën GS) had no seat belt in the back...
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 46d
Safety for occupants, not those outside
RobotToaster@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 46d
Not entirely, a lot of the required curves are for pedestrians. Anything curved has less internal volume.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 46d
Consumer appeal for bigger vehicles tracks with historical weight gain.
thejml@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 46d
Also, the number of burglaries in new Hampshire is dropping as there are less and less kids named Johnny
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 46d
It's called "American creep".
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 46d
There are a lot more car brands in Europe than most regions so generalizations are a bit less useful. I wonder who the outliers would be?
RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -5 pts · 46d
Just like my dick
IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 46d
Liar.