Justice Jackson rips Justice Thomas in scathing birthright citizenship concurrence

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-ketanji-brown-jacksoncalls-out-clarence-thomas-in-scathing-birthright-citizenship-ruling_n_6a43e09de4b0f4826b485ebe

Jackson criticized her fellow justice's “ahistorical” interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

Echoing the Trump administration’s sentiments, Thomas argued in his dissent that the 14th Amendment “was designed and understood to secure equal rights for the freed blacks but has instead been repurposed for political projects that the Reconstruction Congress did not support.”

Thomas also argued that the Civil Rights Act, which became the foundation for the 14th Amendment, had ensured citizenship to people born in the U.S. and “not subject to any foreign power.”

“The Citizenship Clause [of the 14th Amendment], which the same Congress passed shortly after the Civil Rights Act, was understood to have the same meaning,” Thomas wrote. “It guaranteed citizenship to persons who were both ‘born . . . in the United States’ and ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’”

Jackson called this “ahistorical,” denying that the “text at issue conferred citizenship only on freed Blacks and those in analogous situations.”

Jackson also blamed the Trump administration and Thomas for repurposing the amendment, adding that the Civil Rights Act initially only included Black people but was later expanded to include people of all ethnic backgrounds.

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QuantumSpecter@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 55d (10 replies)

Justice Thomas is evil he had his newphew falsely imprisoned at hidden lake academy one of troubled teen programs and this one of old school programs based on synanon methods. bbc link

grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 51 pts · 55d (8 replies)

Clarence ‘I Got Mine’ Thomas

Malyca@lemmy.zip · 44 pts · 55d (1 reply)

Clarence "an rv is price enough to destroy America" Thomas

Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 55d

If that was the case, he would have taken Oliver's offer. He must just really like destroying America. So much so that he passed up an RV and a million a year just to fuck off.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · -36 pts · 55d (5 replies)

The only appropriate use of the n-word. Dude needs a good old fashioned lynching to be reminded of where he's bringing us back to.

Only half joking. But he somewhat deserves it. He's cheering on the return of Jim Crow.

ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 55d

As yes, because racial violence is okay when it's "ironic" or something... I'm all for curb stomping racists of all flavors, but cmon dude no need to go all Klansman.

grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 7 pts · 55d (1 reply)

DJ Trump IS Jim Crow!

meco03211@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 55d

Donald Jim-Crow Trump.

RatherBeRidin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 55d

Ne'er-do-well?

IronBird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 55d

eh, idk about that...but he's definitely an uncle tom

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 55d

Justice Thomas is evil he had his newphew falsely imprisoned at hidden lake academy one of troubled teen programs and this one of old school programs based on synanon methods.

Is that one long sentence, or is that a few sentences with no pause in-between?

ignirtoq@feddit.online · 49 pts · 55d (7 replies)

After attending the Supreme Court hearing earlier this year, Trump falsely claimed in a Truth Social post that the U.S. is “the only Country in the World STUPID enough to allow ‘Birthright’ Citizenship!”

This is such a stupid and easily disproved take. I've had relatives claim to me that the US is the only country with birthright citizenship. It's very common in the Americas.

And even if it wasn't, and the US was the only country with birthright citizenship, isn't that our choice as a nation? Do we have to do what other countries do? If we're going to do that, can we start with universal healthcare and then revisit birthright citizenship after, say, better protections for unions, guaranteed parental leave, guaranteed vacation time, unlimited sick time, higher taxes on the wealthy, abolition of at-will employment, and about 100 other policies the US is the only wealthy nation either not to have or to have a legal framework against?

Kirp123@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 55d

There are 35 countries that provide citizenship unconditionally to anyone born within their national borders.

Auli@lemmy.ca · -19 pts · 54d (5 replies)

Birthright doesn't make sense anymore. It did when traveling was a long process but now that you can fly around the world drop a baby and be back home the next day. It doesn't make sense. My country has a issue with baby vacations.

lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 12 pts · 54d

What is the issue exactly?

BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 54d

What's the issue exactly? Countries are freaking out over their decreasing birth rates. Allowing more children to be born here with citizenship seems like a great solution to that.

dogslayeggs@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 54d

Please enlighten us with what issues your country has with baby vacations.

dreamkeeper@literature.cafe · 6 pts · 54d

None of you weirdo ethnonationalists have ever proven that anchor babies are a real issue that actually impact the economy at scale.

It's just another emotion-driven feint to drive attention away from the robber barons.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 54d

Yea those people are infesting our good lands!

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 44 pts · 54d (1 reply)

Justice Ruckus.

EightBitBlood@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 54d

Bro. I'm fucking DYING at this. Gonna rewatch the MLK episode of Boondocks and shit my pants laughing at uncle SCOTUS.

Rusticus@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 55d (1 reply)

It’s time to reduce Thomas’ vote on the SCOTUS to 3/5ths.

P1k1e@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 54d

The funny thing is, given the aims he's working towards, that's basically where it's all going anyway

Bristlecone@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 55d

Uncle Tom bitchass. I hope he crashes his god awful motorhome

neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 54d (2 replies)

Uncle Tom mfer is the blackest white supremacist in the US.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 54d

tacoplease@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 54d

Clayton Bigsby is proud of Uncle Clarence

gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 55d (13 replies)

I didn't realize that there was no constitutional right to birthright citizenship before the Civil War. TIL

Apparently, every state had its own laws and standards about who was a citizen, although there were a few congressional acts that established a basic framework.

It seems wild to me that we started a whole country and we didn't even figure out who was a member of it.

Mirshe@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 55d

American law continues to be built on "oh we forgot to make that a law" and "oh we didn't think that would matter".

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 54d (1 reply)

A country of immigrants, no less.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 54d

Hey now sometimes you need to filter for the right immigrants, like can you imagine the absolute chaos that a Brandenburger could cause.

I don't know the point of this joke, just kinda felt like bashing the Prussians.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 54d (1 reply)

Well it used to be much harder to have identifying documents. So if you were in the country, you were part of the country.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 54d

That's why there was so much emphasis on Landowners. Owning land required some form of government documentation, like a Deed. Beyond that, there were no Drivers Licenses, Social Security Cards, Student IDs, Work IDs, etc.

VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d

Keep in mind that the US was originally structured more like the EU. We spent about a century slowly shifting from a collection of nation states in an alliance to one big nation state.

dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -13 pts · 55d (6 replies)

Who is this "we"? I'm an American. None of my ancestors were there when white people claimed this land theirs.

gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 55d (5 replies)

"We" is used in a lot of ways. We, as a nation; we, as a civilization; we, as a species. The Royal "we."

Weird of you to assume I meant "we as a race." I'm not even white.

dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -16 pts · 54d (4 replies)

Are Native Americans included in your 'we'? Are Black Americans like included in your 'we'? Are Mexican Americans included in your 'we'? Who is the 'we' in 'we started a whole country and we didn’t even figure out who was a member of it'

Here's how I would phrase it: I think the rich, elitist, racist slave-owning Europeans who wrote the constitution and declaration of independence are idiots and shouldn't be making nations, because they couldn't seem to figure their shit out.

See the difference? Your sentence creates an 'us' that everyone who calls themself American have to align with if they call themselves American. I take no ownership of the choices the people who 'started this country'. When they wanted to 'start' this country, they, of course, had no idea what they were doing. They were idiots.

AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 54d (1 reply)

You sound exhausting. Have you ever tried not being quite so insufferable?

dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 54d

Don't care. Downvote and move on.

dogslayeggs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d (1 reply)

The difference between what you are saying and what the other person is saying is that you take no responsibility for anything, saying everything bad is because of someone else. The other person is including themselves, even though they never voted on shit 200 years ago, as part of the problem. You're like one of those people who complain about who is President and what stupid things Congress is doing... but you were too lazy or too apathetic to actually vote.

By your idiotic definition, nobody alive today is "we."

dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 54d

👍

stretch2m@infosec.pub · 21 pts · 54d (4 replies)

How can a man in his position be so wrong about every goddamn issue?

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 54d (1 reply)

Epstein class and nazi bribery. Can't you see the cuckoldry in his eyes, they grabbed em by the greed. What's he gonna do now, give up his ill gotten gains and admit he's a sockpuppet proxy for evil assholes.

P1k1e@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 54d

Never known a sellout to change their ways. It's just one of those lines you cross and never see again

CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 54d

The issue is, while you and I would spend money on a lawyer to attempt to get a favorable outcome in court, someone with a lot of money will spend it on a motorhome for the judge deciding the case.

boaratio@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d

The guy that put his pubes on a can of coke and then gave it to one of his interns?

Beetschnapps@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 55d

“How can it be that black people are free?”

As spoken by the one judge who could care less…

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 4 pts · 55d

Wake me up when they literally rip him in half.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 54d (1 reply)

RiPpEd

So now the country will go back to being kind of functional, right?

starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 54d

For now. We've established that SC Justices are allowed to make decisions totally disregarding the text of the constitution. It's only a matter of time before Mississippi decides to send catholics to prison, and some future SC decides that that's fine because the founding fathers would have wanted everyone to be evangelical.

wasabi_noir@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 55d
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