I think that's a false equivalent. Yes, the Kaiser was authoritarian, but it was just another colonising parliamentary monarchy (like th UK). It had fewer colonies than the UK (good guys TM) and was less terrible to its own population than Russia (good guys TM).
It tries to reinvigorate that hurra war spirit, which is ok. But the poster is a bit more anti-german than it is anti-fascist.
the thing about propaganda is that it's not meant to be accurate, factual, or even logical. it's to modify people's behavior based on their emotional response. you can see the effectiveness in literally everything the GOP says, writes, publishes, etc. their base eats it up like hogs at the trough while everyone else sits around still trying to convince them that last month's lies were a "false equivalent"
Meanwhile the portrait of U.S. military's first Black four-star general, Daniel "Chappie" James Jr., was taken down from the Air Force Art Gallery at the Pentagon. You know someone who actually deserves recognition. I guess his place in history was not settled.
A number of the citations on the medals awarded to the troopers at Wounded Knee state that they went in pursuit of Lakota who were trying to escape or hide. Another citation was for "conspicuous bravery in rounding up and bringing to the skirmish line a stampeded pack mule." Another medal was awarded in part for extending an enlistment. One citation was just "bravery".
It is very clear what message Hegsheth wants to send here, and it is not that catching a pack mule is "conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty." The massacre at wounded knee is one of the darkest chapters of our history.
I want so badly to believe in religion because it would give me peace that monsters like him will get what they deserve. Stupid autistic brain won't let me without sufficient evidence.
It's actually well documented that part of the appeal of religion is the psychological need for justice when it's so clearly absent in the real world. It's probably part of the reason Christianity spun off from Judaism when it became clear that the Jews weren't going to get any sort of justice or revenge for their oppression by the Roman Empire. Christianity has a greater emphasis on the afterlife and otherworldly justice than Judaism does. Prior to that, the Hebrews were doing fairly well with their own kingdoms and a focus on prosperity in life rather than waiting for the afterlife was working out pretty well.
Sorry for the tangent, I just think it's really interesting.
What makes you think that a god who made Hegseth a multi-millionaire and gave him control of the most powerful military on the planet would suddenly hold him accountable when he dies?
Motherfucker would have been smote or turned into a pillar of salt by now if there was a just deity from any religion.
If he could physically insert himself into the anus of a fat orange shit gibbon, he'll be just fine with his bitch ass fucjnutted black heart on prominent display as a DEAD FASCIST CUNT
Americans are absolutely best at killing each other, frequently engaging in behavior almost taken out of fantasy books where strong and rich cull the week and poor, not unlike great viltrumites from show Invincible!
The US has culture? What it consists of, plastic cheese, chocolate that tastes like vomit, medical bankruptcies and mass school shootings? The US desperately needs a makeover, and at least half of their citizenry needs some proper therapy. Not keeping my hopes up. Never visiting again.
Cheese and chocolate is an unfair statement when some of the best cheeses are from Monroe, Wisconsin, and if you don't like Hershey's brands (Cadburry is not the same) just find an Aldi and the good chocolate will be there.
Can't blame you, fuck this place. It's easily one of the most evil places on earth. The government really really hates it citizens. They refuse to regulate corporations for even the most basic things. The amount of psychological warfare against us is off the charts, that is our history is riddled with conspiracy, malice and greed. I mean ffs they are currently prioritizing water usage for data centers for things that are not only non necessary but absolutely pointless. Burning water for the hell of it. I've always felt odd about this place since I was young, asking adults questions that they sushed quickly with a "we don't talk about that". This place is like bizzaro land, everything has to be a show.
We can all agree it's immoral, but it's also just plain stupidity.
Even if you are white supremacist "kill all people of color", you still need a professional military that's not wasting time massacring civilians and creating PR disasters daily, if you hope to win any wars at all.
Also "their place in history is settled": sorry to ruin your day but that's not how collective processing of historical trauma works, nor history as a science.
I mean... Their place I history was already settled. They are war crime committing, baby killing, psychopaths who are the rare exception for "abolish the death penalty".
If it was that easy for him to do this it will be just as easy for the next Secretary of Defense to reverse it, but the fact that he feels the need to say this and must recognize on some level that a vast majority of people at this point hate their guts and can't wait to undo every last thing they've done is gratifying
Man, that game started out as such a good examination and denouncing of manifest destiny white supremacist bullshit with so many good little historical details, but then 3/4 of the way through the story
::: spoiler .
some idiot on the writing team was like "Ooh, the black people resisting fascist bullshit seem uncomplicatedly good, we better have their leader murder an innocent child for no reason so the white main character can wisely say there are problems on both sides"
:::
I get that, it is just not correct as the Nazi were emulating the US from the start.
Not only did the US provide massive support, it also did a lot of political work. You see before the final solution Hitler just wanted the Jews out.
He sent delegates to talk with other nations about taking them in. When the wealthy Nazi lovers of the US found out about this they assisted in helping revive anti-jewish sentiment around the world. They went around lobbying every nation including the US to not take the Jews in and it worked.
This is what brought about the final solution, but before that the Nazi had a problem with tracking Jews. Que IBM who used their computing power at the time to generate a census system. Those numbers tattooed on Jewish prisoners arms came from IBM.
If that was not enough the Nazi also had a problem with the logistics during the final solution. IBM once again came to the rescue figuring out how many trains of Jews could be executed without backing up their newly designed death camps.
So the US played an intricate role in making the Holocaust feasible. One of the many genocides the US has been a part of.
You are just fine, I just feel compelled to point this out when it is brought up. Mainly because I hate the narrative the US was the good guy during WWII.
Trust me, I've never gotten what I voted for once. The majority of Americans havent gotten what they voted for. Of those that voted 60% didnt vote for this. And the majority of the population continued the trend of not voting.
I dont know how to fix it. You would think in a country built on the idea of keeping your guns so you can fight the government, that we would see more physical pushback.
I just dont want to live on this planet anymore.
What a disappointment the human race turned out to be.
What we learned from the US of A: fucking vote guys, fucking vote, i am talkin with everyone here duh, even ya John "there is no good candidate" in Ass country from the other half of the world, vote the least worse so the worst cannot win dammit
Sure there are good individuals, but the world we've created for ourselves to live in as a species is basically a torment nexus. And it's entierly run and being supported by the worst of us, which kinda just ends up just being guilt by association because we can't escape the system we're in so defacto have to support it.
Dude... I voted for Fetterman. I honestly don't know how to change anything now that I've been aggressively bait and switched by a Republican dick. I'm a naive fool.
I already own three and a crossbow. How many guns am I supposed to own? And I own all of these guns and crossbow from before I started following the eightfold path, so I don't think they'll help me much.
Upon managing to access the presidential bunker, the "march on D.C." group were unsurprised to find that the first lady and chief of war had taken their own lives, what they were surprised to discover was the commander and chief had chosen not to, but instead empty his entire clip into the already deceased secretary of war at close range.
Well, you need to build a gas chamber to put people in a gas chamber. That's, like, work. And you can't entirely slop it, or the gas won't the chamber, and you've just built a crappy shed with poorly fitted tile interior.
The comment about a Nazi regime is accurate-Hitler argued no one would care about the holocaust because no one cared about what the US did to native Americans.
This decision is final. Their place in history is settled.
I find those last 2 sentences amusing and puzzling. It is like he thinks he is the decider of what society at large is going to care about at any given moment. That level of ego must hurt your neck to carry around everyday.
I was going to make a joke about Hugh Thompson (the helicopter pilot that ended the massacre) being called a woke commie but he was heavily criticized at the time and wasn't even given a medal for his actions until 30 goddamn years later so...
They do not think they are the good guys, they genuinely relesh in their evil. They want to be grand moff Tarkin blowing up Alderean. They want to be Darth Vader force choking anyone that bothers them.
I wish American liberals weren't such pansies. They are half the country if not more, it really wouldn't be that difficult to shut down the country in a big enough uprising.
Revolutions dont happen because people are afraid to he homeless. People should be rioting, killing their landlords, hanging politicians in the street.
There was never any to begin with. If you haven't yet, you should read Kegsbreath's mother's letter to him. She paints him as the worst person. If his own mother can't find good in him, there never was any.
If you mean just war medals in general it depends on the context. If you get a medal say as a Union soldier during the Civil War for successfully repeling a Confederate assault that's inherently a good thing to have done, but war is messy so yes it involves killing unfortunately.
Getting injured as an allied soldier on D-Day is a good reason to get a medal.
Getting a medal while fighting to defend Ukraine from it's invasion is also good.
When people are fighting for a just cause its okay to be rewarded for their service.
Being decorated by any of the opposing nations in these conflicts would ultimately by bad. Even if the actions by the soldier was the same.
But worst of all being given a medal for a massacre of women and children is just indefensible
Admittedly, if you want to come at it from an absolutely pacifist worldview about giving people medals for killing, I can't disagree or refute that stance.
I find this upsetting because of "this decision is final, this is settled".
He is presenting himself as way more significant than he is, either because of complete lack of self-awareness, or preemptive defensiveness against inevitable criticism he can't handle, or overcompensating for inability to cope they are on the losing side.
Neither has any semblance of EQ, emotional maturity or humility. These aren't the kinds of people who would rule in a fair, meritocratic system.
Psychopaths going mask off for time infinity through history. We always fight the same war against the psychopaths whenever we let them back stab their way up the power chain every 60 years or so. It's always us vs psychopaths and they always go mask off when they think there's no way they can lose. We are here.
History is often revisited and re-evaluated in a contemporary context. That's why Biden removed many confederate statues because they were frankly embarrassing, and is very relevant to what happened here.
History is the collective and you're welcome to revisit that. I'll help and probably agree with most of what you write about that.
But these medals? That's not history. That's individual sacrifice, and those are earned independent of whatever asshole is in charge at the time. We shouldn't be messing with those.
They'd be deserving of a medal if they had actually sacrificed something. Like disobeying the order of massacring women and children on grounds of their conscience and getting court-martialled for it. That would be worth a medal.
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Z745812939054@lemmy.zip · 137 pts · 45d
actual antifa propaganda:
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 42 pts · 44d
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 44d
wieson@feddit.org · 6 pts · 44d
I think that's a false equivalent. Yes, the Kaiser was authoritarian, but it was just another colonising parliamentary monarchy (like th UK). It had fewer colonies than the UK (good guys TM) and was less terrible to its own population than Russia (good guys TM).
It tries to reinvigorate that hurra war spirit, which is ok. But the poster is a bit more anti-german than it is anti-fascist.
Z745812939054@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 44d
the thing about propaganda is that it's not meant to be accurate, factual, or even logical. it's to modify people's behavior based on their emotional response. you can see the effectiveness in literally everything the GOP says, writes, publishes, etc. their base eats it up like hogs at the trough while everyone else sits around still trying to convince them that last month's lies were a "false equivalent"
or that they should care that it is
HeyJoe@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 44d
Meanwhile the portrait of U.S. military's first Black four-star general, Daniel "Chappie" James Jr., was taken down from the Air Force Art Gallery at the Pentagon. You know someone who actually deserves recognition. I guess his place in history was not settled.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 44d
Not being on show in the pentagon is the bigger honor anyway
skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 44d
It is in the history that matters, ours
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 82 pts · 44d
From Wikipedia
It is very clear what message Hegsheth wants to send here, and it is not that catching a pack mule is "conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty." The massacre at wounded knee is one of the darkest chapters of our history.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 80 pts · 44d
Hegseth isn't gonna like his place in history.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 44d
Hegseth has likely lied every single day of his adult life, plus when he was learning how to lie as a kid/ teenager.
Hegseth's only regret will be that he didn't hurt enough of the 'right' people.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 44d
He's a fucking alcoholic, and you know he lies about that to even himself, so your probably right.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 43d
To someone like Hegseth, he's not an alcoholic — that's woke liberal trashspeak and not a real condition.
Idk if that's actually what he believes, but I bet I'm not far off from his actual answer.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 44d
I want so badly to believe in religion because it would give me peace that monsters like him will get what they deserve. Stupid autistic brain won't let me without sufficient evidence.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 44d
It's actually well documented that part of the appeal of religion is the psychological need for justice when it's so clearly absent in the real world. It's probably part of the reason Christianity spun off from Judaism when it became clear that the Jews weren't going to get any sort of justice or revenge for their oppression by the Roman Empire. Christianity has a greater emphasis on the afterlife and otherworldly justice than Judaism does. Prior to that, the Hebrews were doing fairly well with their own kingdoms and a focus on prosperity in life rather than waiting for the afterlife was working out pretty well.
Sorry for the tangent, I just think it's really interesting.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 44d
It is! Thank you for sharing, I didn't know.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 43d
What makes you think that a god who made Hegseth a multi-millionaire and gave him control of the most powerful military on the planet would suddenly hold him accountable when he dies?
Motherfucker would have been smote or turned into a pillar of salt by now if there was a just deity from any religion.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 43d
That's the only argument my brain will accept.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 44d
I look forward to seeing him in it.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 44d
The downside to living in a world that can't forget anymore.
corbindallas@fedinsfw.app · 9 pts · 44d
If he could physically insert himself into the anus of a fat orange shit gibbon, he'll be just fine with his bitch ass fucjnutted black heart on prominent display as a DEAD FASCIST CUNT
MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social · 1 pts · 44d
Came here to say this.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 44d
Secretary of War: "This decision is final (hic)"
That's not how republics work, you're not the "final decider".
4am@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 44d
Very telling that he thinks he is.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 44d
Can't revoke the medals if the body that issued them dissolves. Fuck it, I'll take it.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 56 pts · 44d
You are not a historian and also do not get to decide what happens in the future 💖
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 44d
And he's lost every engagement he's been in, and history gets written by the victors.
HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub · 40 pts · 44d
Isn't opening fire on civilians like the most american thing ever? They open fire on protesting workers, on children in schools etc.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -35 pts · 44d
Excuse me but that seemed like a very rude way to describe my culture.
Not inaccurate, but maybe try rewriting it to sound like less of a smug asshole who thinks their culture is just essentially better?
michaelalf@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 44d
My culture is "essentially better" though.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -7 pts · 44d
Oh? How often do people kill Americans there?
HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub · 13 pts · 44d
Americans are absolutely best at killing each other, frequently engaging in behavior almost taken out of fantasy books where strong and rich cull the week and poor, not unlike great viltrumites from show Invincible!
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 44d
See! My culture has virtues!
OleFoFa@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 44d
The US has culture? What it consists of, plastic cheese, chocolate that tastes like vomit, medical bankruptcies and mass school shootings? The US desperately needs a makeover, and at least half of their citizenry needs some proper therapy. Not keeping my hopes up. Never visiting again.
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
Cheese and chocolate is an unfair statement when some of the best cheeses are from Monroe, Wisconsin, and if you don't like Hershey's brands (Cadburry is not the same) just find an Aldi and the good chocolate will be there.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 43d
Lol some of the best cheeses in America, maybe.
Wisconsin cheese has nothing on the French, Swiss or Greek cheeses.
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 41d
Have you ever tried Monroe cheese?
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 41d
Nah man, just like most of the world.
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 44d
Can't blame you, fuck this place. It's easily one of the most evil places on earth. The government really really hates it citizens. They refuse to regulate corporations for even the most basic things. The amount of psychological warfare against us is off the charts, that is our history is riddled with conspiracy, malice and greed. I mean ffs they are currently prioritizing water usage for data centers for things that are not only non necessary but absolutely pointless. Burning water for the hell of it. I've always felt odd about this place since I was young, asking adults questions that they sushed quickly with a "we don't talk about that". This place is like bizzaro land, everything has to be a show.
Sorry for the soapbox.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 44d
Yeah! That's the one!
Don't forget cars.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
The closest thing 'Murica (I refer to post-invasion' Murica) has to culture is what's growing between your toes
late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net · 32 pts · 44d
We can all agree it's immoral, but it's also just plain stupidity.
Even if you are white supremacist "kill all people of color", you still need a professional military that's not wasting time massacring civilians and creating PR disasters daily, if you hope to win any wars at all.
Also "their place in history is settled": sorry to ruin your day but that's not how collective processing of historical trauma works, nor history as a science.
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 44d
I mean... Their place I history was already settled. They are war crime committing, baby killing, psychopaths who are the rare exception for "abolish the death penalty".
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 44d
If it was that easy for him to do this it will be just as easy for the next Secretary of Defense to reverse it, but the fact that he feels the need to say this and must recognize on some level that a vast majority of people at this point hate their guts and can't wait to undo every last thing they've done is gratifying
My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 44d
I can't wait for this guy to be Karma's bitch.
Asafum@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 44d
I wish karma was real but unfortunately we live in the world where pieces of shit just get away with everything.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 44d
Then he'll be a Luigi's bitch.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 44d
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
Karma is not going to take these guys down. That's the job of the American people right now.
ProdigiousInsanity@lemmus.org · 26 pts · 44d
Well yeah, he is a Nazi so that tracks
Phoenix3875@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 44d
So the satire from BioShock: Infinite has become reality.
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 44d
Man, that game started out as such a good examination and denouncing of manifest destiny white supremacist bullshit with so many good little historical details, but then 3/4 of the way through the story
::: spoiler . some idiot on the writing team was like "Ooh, the black people resisting fascist bullshit seem uncomplicatedly good, we better have their leader murder an innocent child for no reason so the white main character can wisely say there are problems on both sides" :::
which was just some real cowardly bullshit
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 44d
Bioshock 1: Let's explore and denounce this bullshit set of ideas
Bioshock 2: Actually, both sides.
Bioshock Infinite: Let's explore and deno- just kidding it's both sides again
Judas, according to Ken Levine:
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 44d
That's fucking bleak. What a miserable cunt.
wasabi_noir@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 44d
Hegseth drinks his own piss
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 44d
Well, yeah, he doesn't want any of that booze to go to waste
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 44d
I've also heard this.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 43d
Americans looking at the Nazis: I'll never be as good as the old masters.
Nazis looking at Americans: I'll never be as good as the old masters.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 43d
The first one doesn't make any sense.
US industrialists like Ford helped fund the Nazi and Nazism was extremely popular in the US.
Hitler himself modeled the Holocaust after how the US genocided the Native Americans.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 43d
For the first one, read the post. It's saying the Americans are emulating the Nazis.
The second one is because the Nazis were emulating the Americans (as you stated).
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 43d
I get that, it is just not correct as the Nazi were emulating the US from the start.
Not only did the US provide massive support, it also did a lot of political work. You see before the final solution Hitler just wanted the Jews out.
He sent delegates to talk with other nations about taking them in. When the wealthy Nazi lovers of the US found out about this they assisted in helping revive anti-jewish sentiment around the world. They went around lobbying every nation including the US to not take the Jews in and it worked.
This is what brought about the final solution, but before that the Nazi had a problem with tracking Jews. Que IBM who used their computing power at the time to generate a census system. Those numbers tattooed on Jewish prisoners arms came from IBM.
If that was not enough the Nazi also had a problem with the logistics during the final solution. IBM once again came to the rescue figuring out how many trains of Jews could be executed without backing up their newly designed death camps.
So the US played an intricate role in making the Holocaust feasible. One of the many genocides the US has been a part of.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 43d
I'm just not very funny.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 43d
You are just fine, I just feel compelled to point this out when it is brought up. Mainly because I hate the narrative the US was the good guy during WWII.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 43d
No one thinks that in my country, I think they're the only ones that think that. But they also think they didn't lose 1812.
https://www.npr.org/2012/06/18/155308632/teaching-the-war-of-1812-different-in-u-s-canada
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 44d
You get what you voted for America...
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 44d
Trust me, I've never gotten what I voted for once. The majority of Americans havent gotten what they voted for. Of those that voted 60% didnt vote for this. And the majority of the population continued the trend of not voting.
I dont know how to fix it. You would think in a country built on the idea of keeping your guns so you can fight the government, that we would see more physical pushback.
I just dont want to live on this planet anymore.
What a disappointment the human race turned out to be.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 6 pts · 43d
What we learned from the US of A: fucking vote guys, fucking vote, i am talkin with everyone here duh, even ya John "there is no good candidate" in Ass country from the other half of the world, vote the least worse so the worst cannot win dammit
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 43d
and if you don't have ranked choice voting figure out how to GET ranked choice voting because as soon as they get you into a binary loop you're fucked
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 43d
I agree! America needs ranked choice voting and approval voting
beanburger@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 43d
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 44d
Yep
As individuals, there are plenty of good 'Muricans
But there are a huge number of utter cunts, and their society is absolutely abhorrent
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 44d
This is how I feel about our species as a whole.
Sure there are good individuals, but the world we've created for ourselves to live in as a species is basically a torment nexus. And it's entierly run and being supported by the worst of us, which kinda just ends up just being guilt by association because we can't escape the system we're in so defacto have to support it.
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 44d
Dude... I voted for Fetterman. I honestly don't know how to change anything now that I've been aggressively bait and switched by a Republican dick. I'm a naive fool.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 44d
Direct action
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 44d
Buy a gun
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 43d
I already own three and a crossbow. How many guns am I supposed to own? And I own all of these guns and crossbow from before I started following the eightfold path, so I don't think they'll help me much.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 43d
Enough for your friends in the crumbles.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 21 pts · 44d
It has been every administration's decision since wounded knee, or they wouldn't have medals to take.
wayward@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 44d
Nuh uh, this time there's no takesie-backsies!
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 20 pts · 44d
Yeah, the US is run by Nazis so this tracks
Fontasia@feddit.nl · 19 pts · 44d
Upon managing to access the presidential bunker, the "march on D.C." group were unsurprised to find that the first lady and chief of war had taken their own lives, what they were surprised to discover was the commander and chief had chosen not to, but instead empty his entire clip into the already deceased secretary of war at close range.
pigup@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 43d
As I read this, megadeth - blackmail the universe started playing in my head
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 44d
I mean yeah, they're fucking Nazis. If there weren't cameras and the internet they'd be putting people into gas chambers.
jtrek@startrek.website · 15 pts · 44d
I mean, I would not be surprised if we learned they had already started mass murdering the people ICE abducts.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 44d
Yeah, same here.
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 44d
I feel like that isn't what's stopping them.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
What is?
cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 44d
Well, you need to build a gas chamber to put people in a gas chamber. That's, like, work. And you can't entirely slop it, or the gas won't the chamber, and you've just built a crappy shed with poorly fitted tile interior.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 44d
He's one sick drunk racist neo-Nazi bastard.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 44d
The comment about a Nazi regime is accurate-Hitler argued no one would care about the holocaust because no one cared about what the US did to native Americans.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 44d
Quite the "warrior" ethos, this Hegseth has. I want him to try this in person and see how well it holds up when someone fights back.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 43d
I find those last 2 sentences amusing and puzzling. It is like he thinks he is the decider of what society at large is going to care about at any given moment. That level of ego must hurt your neck to carry around everyday.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 43d
Called it! Stamped it! No repeats!
ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 44d
Can't wait for the design of the My Lai Valor Medal
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 44d
I was going to make a joke about Hugh Thompson (the helicopter pilot that ended the massacre) being called a woke commie but he was heavily criticized at the time and wasn't even given a medal for his actions until 30 goddamn years later so...
Washi@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 44d
These Nazis have no idea just how despicable and evil they truly are. They are under the illusion they are the good guys.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 12 pts · 44d
They do not think they are the good guys, they genuinely relesh in their evil. They want to be grand moff Tarkin blowing up Alderean. They want to be Darth Vader force choking anyone that bothers them.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 44d
well they pratically advised the actually nazis, which based alot of thier stuff on american racist policies.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 43d
findagrave.com
Anyone have a backhoe and a trailer? Lots of Confederate trash lying around in the dirt that we could clean up too.
GenericUsername@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 43d
I wish American liberals weren't such pansies. They are half the country if not more, it really wouldn't be that difficult to shut down the country in a big enough uprising.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 43d
I think people are counting on midterms going their way. If it helps the left has been more effective at violence so far when it does happen.
And me personally would end up homeless if I miss more then one paycheck.
GenericUsername@thelemmy.club · -4 pts · 43d
Revolutions dont happen because people are afraid to he homeless. People should be rioting, killing their landlords, hanging politicians in the street.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 43d
I live in Alaska and we do notnevem have anywhere near enough shelters. Plus, would you be willing to kill your own cousin?
Sludgehammer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 44d
I'm sure Hegseth is arranging medals of honor for the brave troops who committed the Mahmudiyah rape and murders too.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 44d
So relevant.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 44d
No wonder the U.S., together with the butchers from Israel, is deliberately bombing schools.
What a despicable rogue state, led by the most deranged monsters humanity has to offer—so monstrous that not a trace of humanity remains.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 44d
There was never any to begin with. If you haven't yet, you should read Kegsbreath's mother's letter to him. She paints him as the worst person. If his own mother can't find good in him, there never was any.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 7 pts · 44d
My personal opinion is that no war medal is a good thing so this is nothing more than an opportunity for this man to reinforce his imperialism.
What other ways are people interpreting this?
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 44d
If you mean just war medals in general it depends on the context. If you get a medal say as a Union soldier during the Civil War for successfully repeling a Confederate assault that's inherently a good thing to have done, but war is messy so yes it involves killing unfortunately.
Getting injured as an allied soldier on D-Day is a good reason to get a medal.
Getting a medal while fighting to defend Ukraine from it's invasion is also good.
When people are fighting for a just cause its okay to be rewarded for their service.
Being decorated by any of the opposing nations in these conflicts would ultimately by bad. Even if the actions by the soldier was the same.
But worst of all being given a medal for a massacre of women and children is just indefensible
Admittedly, if you want to come at it from an absolutely pacifist worldview about giving people medals for killing, I can't disagree or refute that stance.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 3 pts · 44d
Thank you for sharing. My question was more about the tweet. I got the feeling people found this upsetting for a different reason than I do.
Maybe I am missing that he reversed a decision?
late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 44d
I find this upsetting because of "this decision is final, this is settled".
He is presenting himself as way more significant than he is, either because of complete lack of self-awareness, or preemptive defensiveness against inevitable criticism he can't handle, or overcompensating for inability to cope they are on the losing side.
Neither has any semblance of EQ, emotional maturity or humility. These aren't the kinds of people who would rule in a fair, meritocratic system.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 44d
Gotcha, basically back at some time in the past 20 soldiers were awarded medals for their actions.
At the end of 2024, under the Biden administration, the DoD opened a panel to assess if these medals should be rescinded.
That panel reached a decision in 2025 on the matter, and decided not to revoke. This was very likely influenced by Hegseth.
https://southdakotasearchlight.com/2024/07/24/defense-secretary-orders-review-of-wounded-knee-massacre-medals/
https://southdakotasearchlight.com/2025/09/26/medals-awarded-for-wounded-knee-massacre-wont-be-rescinded-hegseth-announces/
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 3 pts · 44d
Ooooooh, thank you. That makes a lot more sense.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 44d
Psychopaths going mask off for time infinity through history. We always fight the same war against the psychopaths whenever we let them back stab their way up the power chain every 60 years or so. It's always us vs psychopaths and they always go mask off when they think there's no way they can lose. We are here.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 44d
OK fuck Pete, but nowhere in his statement does he say he's honoring the people from that battle.
What he said was it's settled history, so we're not going back and revising things long after the fact. This isn't FIFA, after all.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 44d
History is often revisited and re-evaluated in a contemporary context. That's why Biden removed many confederate statues because they were frankly embarrassing, and is very relevant to what happened here.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 44d
History is the collective and you're welcome to revisit that. I'll help and probably agree with most of what you write about that.
But these medals? That's not history. That's individual sacrifice, and those are earned independent of whatever asshole is in charge at the time. We shouldn't be messing with those.
Bo7a@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 44d
Those poor racist fuckers had to sacrifice ammo into children's bodies.
You fucking idiot.
wieson@feddit.org · 2 pts · 44d
They'd be deserving of a medal if they had actually sacrificed something. Like disobeying the order of massacring women and children on grounds of their conscience and getting court-martialled for it. That would be worth a medal.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 43d
Well too bad bitch. We're gonna find all those graves and we're gonna get all those medals one way or another.