It's not just navigating the pwd mgr; it's also all the 2FA. Or do you integrate the two? If so, why? The whole point of 2FA is to be separate from one's passwords for greater security.
It's integrated for convenience and suits my threat model. 2FA for the password manager is separate though. Isn't the whole point of 2FA to secure your account even if an attacker get their hands on your login info? Keeping it separate is just another layer of protection, no?
"Just?" What do you mean, "just?" That's entirely why we use non-browser pwd mgrs in the first place (and hopefully not Bitwarden with its incoming capitalist takeover from the CEO change), or else why bother, right?
Just add exceptions for the sites you login to. You already have a user account on their site, deleting cookies at the end of each session won't do much for these sites anyway.
I do. A self-hosted password manager makes it only a second or two inconvenience for most sites. The worst ones are the ones that send you a code for 2FA, but still, with those it's a 10-15 second inconvenience. One thing I've learned in my quest for proper digital privacy is that I had to give up my obsession of convenience. I used to be the guy that lost my mind when my internet was even a tiny bit slow, but I've had to get comfortable with not getting what I want immediately. I genuinely think it's made me a better person in other areas as well, but that could just be cope lol
i use temporary auto-applied containers (via the Temporary Containers Plus extension) to auto-erase data of sites that i dont manually put in a permanent container
random junk goes in private windows. but stuff i might want a history of (research or work related, for instance) to go back later for, stays on the normal window and history.
When a boomer shows you a cringe thirst trap on their tiktok feed and is like “who wants to see this?” You don’t know how algorithms work do yah uncle Scott lol
Yeah... my youtube throws them into the shorts every now and then. It's just fucking annoying. You're youtube, they're not even going to show anything anyway stick to the shit I actually click on.
A better way to use Youtube is to turn off watch history, and use Subscriptions as your homepage. Youtube taught me this a while back when they turned off my watch history and then insisted I signed into it to use it.
Better than that is Freetube with an extension that opens browser links in Freetube.
Even the algorithm shows new stuff sometimes just to see if it sticks. I get makeup and hair videos occasionally even though I'm male in late 30s that never showed any interest in such things.
Under what circumstances? That's a genuine question. I can't think of a single time in my life I've ever handed someone my phone's internet browser to look up something
It only takes a few taps to go from a meme, video, or picture you're showing someone to the browser.
Didn't have smart phones when I went to college, but I had some friends who prided themselves on how fast they could get to browser history on an "unattended" laptop, as in, I turned around to talk to someone else for ~60 seconds.
phone: showing pictures, letting them read some text, an article, basically anything i would send if we were not sitting next to each other. also letting them navigate when we're outside with a map. and letting them call or text someone when they don't have battery or connection.
laptop: mostly playing movies or letting them play games.
it's usually my friends and they wouldn't do anything bad with my device, but there was once this one guy in a group who wasn't really a friend and he looked at my gallery. that taught me a lesson, although he didn't find anything interesting.
with games and movies on a laptop it's worse, because that's sometimes for some kids. luckily they can't really use my custom linux keybinds.
Or -- get this! -- you can use a private tab/window for the really bad stuff, so it won't get saved in your browser history. Then you can still have a browser history full of benign things, rather than an empty one.
Also very useful: Firefox has a feature of [Menu --> History --> Clear Recent History...] -- that allows you to delete any trace of sites you've visited within a given timeframe, with choices of 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, or all day. If it's something older than that, you can also browse through your history and manually delete anything objectionable.
Of course, it can do everything Firefox can do if you play around with the settings. I don't think it's a good idea to deviate much from stock though. I use Firedragon now. It's sort of an in-between.
Yeah wtf is this bullshit? You either find "minions but purple plus miniature vore butthole no laughing sex avocado and pineapple insertion" vs ...nothing.
Back in the late '90s I used to clear it and then visit a bunch of BS safe sites really quickly just to fill over here some garbage so my mom wouldn't see
I've pondered this a bit. If we lock down akin to china, we'll have to start using plausible deniability. Our encoding will need to be in safe and clear looking datasets, which localLLM probably could push out
My browser history (the local one) is for my eyes only... so clearing it would only mean I have to go again about finding a page that I might've forgotten to bookmark.
81 Comments
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 113 pts · 25d
Mine just wipes every time I close the browser
valar@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 25d
Same, I don't really do "browser history"
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 25d
Do you also wipe cookies, leading to needing to relogin every time you visit a site
guy@piefed.social · 38 pts · 25d
Yes
kn33@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 25d
That's very annoying
guy@piefed.social · 25 pts · 25d
Meh, not really. It only takes a few extra seconds and keytaps to logon with a password manager.
Accidentally closing the browser when not done however, that's annoying
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 1 pts · 25d
It's not just navigating the pwd mgr; it's also all the 2FA. Or do you integrate the two? If so, why? The whole point of 2FA is to be separate from one's passwords for greater security.
guy@piefed.social · 5 pts · 24d
It's integrated for convenience and suits my threat model. 2FA for the password manager is separate though. Isn't the whole point of 2FA to secure your account even if an attacker get their hands on your login info? Keeping it separate is just another layer of protection, no?
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 1 pts · 24d
"Just?" What do you mean, "just?" That's entirely why we use non-browser pwd mgrs in the first place (and hopefully not Bitwarden with its incoming capitalist takeover from the CEO change), or else why bother, right?
randombullet@programming.dev · 2 pts · 24d
I have the same, but I have a hardware key.
Log in with the password manager and then tap my key.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 11 pts · 25d
I have a password database that is secure and offline.
Why the hell would I want my browser to store my passwords/session data?
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Do you get autofill?
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 25d
Hell no.
Copy, paste. Done.
ollie@pawb.social · 5 pts · 25d
aint there stuff that can read your clipboard?
BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 25d
mpramann@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 25d
Just add exceptions for the sites you login to. You already have a user account on their site, deleting cookies at the end of each session won't do much for these sites anyway.
guy@piefed.social · 2 pts · 24d
Is cross domain tracking resolved?
Carrot@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 25d
I do. A self-hosted password manager makes it only a second or two inconvenience for most sites. The worst ones are the ones that send you a code for 2FA, but still, with those it's a 10-15 second inconvenience. One thing I've learned in my quest for proper digital privacy is that I had to give up my obsession of convenience. I used to be the guy that lost my mind when my internet was even a tiny bit slow, but I've had to get comfortable with not getting what I want immediately. I genuinely think it's made me a better person in other areas as well, but that could just be cope lol
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 25d
You can add exceptions, but yes
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 24d
i use temporary auto-applied containers (via the Temporary Containers Plus extension) to auto-erase data of sites that i dont manually put in a permanent container
wraekscadu@vargar.org · 51 pts · 25d
Just use private tabs?
Browser history can be so useful (for looking up visited pages), and I dunno, archiving stuff just has an appeal of its own!
adarza@piefed.ca · 22 pts · 25d
random junk goes in private windows. but stuff i might want a history of (research or work related, for instance) to go back later for, stays on the normal window and history.
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 4 pts · 25d
My problem is that I rarely ever know if the "random junk" that I look up may be useful to return to later.
adarza@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 24d
and that's where my 1000s of bookmarks came from.
Blurntout@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 25d
When a boomer shows you a cringe thirst trap on their tiktok feed and is like “who wants to see this?” You don’t know how algorithms work do yah uncle Scott lol
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 25d
Well, at the very start the feed isn't empty too , so your uncle maybe not at fault
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 25d
Yeah... my youtube throws them into the shorts every now and then. It's just fucking annoying. You're youtube, they're not even going to show anything anyway stick to the shit I actually click on.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 24d
A better way to use Youtube is to turn off watch history, and use Subscriptions as your homepage. Youtube taught me this a while back when they turned off my watch history and then insisted I signed into it to use it.
Better than that is Freetube with an extension that opens browser links in Freetube.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 24d
or just use invidious
i use a browser extension (Redirector) to regex search and replace youtube urls with inv.nadeko.net
::: spoiler my setup if anyone wants it
extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/namless-redirector/
patterns to copypaste:
^(?:http|https)://(?:www.|m.)?youtu(?:.be|be.com)/(.+)https://inv.nadeko.net/%7B%7B1%7D%7D:::lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 24d
Nah, I'm not creating an account on there. I just wipe my browser when shit starts getting bad.
Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 24d
Even the algorithm shows new stuff sometimes just to see if it sticks. I get makeup and hair videos occasionally even though I'm male in late 30s that never showed any interest in such things.
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 25d
Incognito mode ftw
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
I have straight up not used incognito since I was maybe 13 years old. Are yall really just handing off your devices to other people?
stepan@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 25d
yes
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 25d
Under what circumstances? That's a genuine question. I can't think of a single time in my life I've ever handed someone my phone's internet browser to look up something
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 25d
testaccount789@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 24d
They usually just send a link that looks like https://www.example.com/reels/funny_meme_compilation_42069?si=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%3D
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 25d
It only takes a few taps to go from a meme, video, or picture you're showing someone to the browser.
Didn't have smart phones when I went to college, but I had some friends who prided themselves on how fast they could get to browser history on an "unattended" laptop, as in, I turned around to talk to someone else for ~60 seconds.
can@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 25d
Probably have to identify at least a hundred crosswalks too.
stepan@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 15d
phone: showing pictures, letting them read some text, an article, basically anything i would send if we were not sitting next to each other. also letting them navigate when we're outside with a map. and letting them call or text someone when they don't have battery or connection.
laptop: mostly playing movies or letting them play games.
it's usually my friends and they wouldn't do anything bad with my device, but there was once this one guy in a group who wasn't really a friend and he looked at my gallery. that taught me a lesson, although he didn't find anything interesting.
with games and movies on a laptop it's worse, because that's sometimes for some kids. luckily they can't really use my custom linux keybinds.
ollie@pawb.social · 3 pts · 25d
i use it a lot, my parents are religious and thus i gotta stay safe when looking at anything remotely queer-supportive
kamen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 24d
Do you all use the same user account?
ollie@pawb.social · 1 pts · 24d
no, but my mum will demand i let her look through my phone
kamen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23d
Wow, that sucks. Hope you're out of there soon.
RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 25d
I mostly use incognito mode for google image search so that they can't place a cookies on me
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 24d
I use it regularly for "this isn't something I'm going to be looking at/for again" type searches
ceenote@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 25d
Basically, only delete your browser history if the reality is worse than what people will imagine.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 25d
If reality is worse than what people could imagine, you need to unplug.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 16 pts · 25d
Or -- get this! -- you can use a private tab/window for the really bad stuff, so it won't get saved in your browser history. Then you can still have a browser history full of benign things, rather than an empty one.
Also very useful: Firefox has a feature of [Menu --> History --> Clear Recent History...] -- that allows you to delete any trace of sites you've visited within a given timeframe, with choices of 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, or all day. If it's something older than that, you can also browse through your history and manually delete anything objectionable.
guy@piefed.social · 6 pts · 25d
My browsing history would probably be more boring than what people would imagine. But it's my browser history, eyes off!
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 24d
Yeah, my browser history is significantly more tame than my bookshelf these days
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 24d
Or maybe you could just stay out of stuff that's none of your damn business.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 24d
I don't remember the last time I had search/browsing history enabled.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 24d
Seriously. Only let 1 of 6 browsers I use keep any history.
some_random_nick@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 25d
aka "If you're innocent, you got nothing to hide"
Flagstaff@programming.dev · 6 pts · 25d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
daggermoon@piefed.world · 13 pts · 25d
Unless you use Librewolf
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 4 pts · 24d
Librewolf can be trained to remember some pages if you want them to.
daggermoon@piefed.world · 3 pts · 24d
Of course, it can do everything Firefox can do if you play around with the settings. I don't think it's a good idea to deviate much from stock though. I use Firedragon now. It's sort of an in-between.
onipa@feddit.org · 5 pts · 24d
firedragon is an epic name. I might check it out just because of that
GutterRat42@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 24d
Your browsing history and cookies are a security risk.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 24d
Just clear the relevant domain out of the history.
Not empty. Yet gone.
Paddzr@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 25d
One will get you fired, the other makes it just that bit harder to prove.
wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe · 9 pts · 25d
False
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 24d
Yeah wtf is this bullshit? You either find "minions but purple plus miniature vore butthole no laughing sex avocado and pineapple insertion" vs ...nothing.
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 24d
I came in to make a joke like, "Nothing is a vast improvement over my history," but this was so much more colorful
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 24d
Comedy's in the details 👈👈 😁 (how do I do finger guns on this thing?)
MacaqueAndCheese@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 25d
I tried to teach my grandpa's crabs how to read but he smacked me and told me to stop talking to his pubes
QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 25d
phar@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 25d
Back in the late '90s I used to clear it and then visit a bunch of BS safe sites really quickly just to fill over here some garbage so my mom wouldn't see
gibmiser@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 25d
Yeah i got burned by recently opened files back when we used to still download and save porn
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 25d
Incidentally that's how I discovered porn. Older brother forgot it and I thought hey, new movie
brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 25d
That got me too. Always cleaned it after.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 24d
I've thought about this. I think the next anonymity products will be LLM agents designed to obfuscate.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 24d
I've pondered this a bit. If we lock down akin to china, we'll have to start using plausible deniability. Our encoding will need to be in safe and clear looking datasets, which localLLM probably could push out
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 25d
Unless it's always empty forever and always.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 4 pts · 24d
I periodically clear my history and rare go online without a vpn.
kamen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 24d
My browser history (the local one) is for my eyes only... so clearing it would only mean I have to go again about finding a page that I might've forgotten to bookmark.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 24d
Its hints to more, with notes of shame