My elderly parents both have laptops with Windows 11 (don't @ me, they can't possibly learn a new OS at this point). Every once in a while they briefly throw up like 100 cmd windows. I have no clue what they are.
The amount of legitimate software that's just batch scripts is pretty amusing. I always make sure to read and understand what it's doing in that case, though
I know, but remember that the .scr format was invented on Windows 3.1. It was a very different world then. No internet, no emails for the average user.
Back circa 2000 I was a Visual Basic developer. In my corporate apps I would always put in easter eggs that would randomly throw up message boxes saying stuff like "No matter where you go, there you are." This always pissed off the c-suite types and they would demand that the source be found and eliminated, but none of the other developers ever found it. All I did was convert the message string to a series of CHR(n) commands, and for the MsgBox command I just put like a thousand spaces in front of it in a small, rarely-used file. A search for the text of the message would return nothing, and a manual inspection of the file wouldn't reveal anything unless you happened to notice the horizontal scroll bar this produced at the bottom. One of the applications I wrote is still in use at this company (and still occasionally throwing up these easter eggs) and it was basically a front end wrapping a mainframe program dating to the 1970s, which means that thing is still running.
Something mildly similar is how spam emails made it through our filters. In the email it'd advertise dick pills but when copying the email to notepad it looked like gibberish. I made the suggestion to highlight the email text and change the font-color and size to something uniform. Turns out they would insert 3 random characters in between each letter, and those 3 characters would be font size 1 and white while the letters of the actual message were 12 and Black.
It was tricky to get used to the Linux mentality of not really having a dedicated double-clickable “executable type”. But it makes sense - if you want to run code, that should be a planned action by an app that is dedicated to the task of setting up new code. (Package manager, IDE)
Well, casey beat me to it. By default anything you've grabbed from the internet or a flash drive won't have execute permissions on it, so it's intentionally more obtuse to run than Windows' simple "Are you sure you want to run this unknown publisher" dialog.
One take is that 'normal' users get 'scared' by extensions and do strange things like break their file by renaming the extension away or think they can literally convert a file between types by changing the extension.
And so they hide it away.
But it's bad logic because breaking things by trying to do weird stuff is how any of us who are technically literate became that way in the first place; by fucking around and finding out.
I remember reading in a book that it was hard to actually break Windows, so I loved messing about in the settings. It was probably the 95 or 98 days where I turned on file extensions on my profile and never looked back.
I also played a part in infecting the family PC with about 500 different types of adware, but oh well.
I remember when I learnt you can customise the default icons for My Computer and the Recycling bin, so I used the image in the book or magazine as a reference and manually edited every pixel to make them golden.
I was big into those magazines on how to tweak/modify Windows to go faster. One day I was reading up on compressing a hard drive to save space. So I compressed C: to save space. Sure learned a lot those years!
That's the "File" app which is the default file manager on all android phones (except a few brands that have their own thing but the app File is still there usually)
They aren't installed to a folder that the homescreen just displays, the homescreen launcher just asks android what apps are installed and displays their icons and when you press it, it asks android to launch the app, but yhere is a folder in data where there are system app apks but I haven't checked for non system apps.
Edit: The files app also doesn't hide .apk extensions
Napster was just mp3 files. There was a roundabout way around that where they had that method of zipping up an installer and changing the extension to .mp3.
61 Comments
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 38d
When you see a cmd window or two flash into and out of existence after trying to open something:
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 19 pts · 38d
My work PC does this every time I turn it on. After 2 years it still gives me that jolt of "oh shit".
RidderSport@feddit.org · 4 pts · 38d
Same, and I have no idea what that is
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 38d
Probably some GPO deployed script your admins configured at boot to tweak some registry nonsense or other corpo-spyware related crap.
RidderSport@feddit.org · 8 pts · 38d
I am my own admin 🥲
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 38d
Stop spying on yourself!
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 38d
My elderly parents both have laptops with Windows 11 (don't @ me, they can't possibly learn a new OS at this point). Every once in a while they briefly throw up like 100 cmd windows. I have no clue what they are.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 38d
Not sure what you're calling elderly, but my FIL turned 70 this year, and I just set him up with Mint a few months ago. Dude is loving it.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 36d
Rename cmd.exe to anything else.exe problem solved xD. (I don't know if that would be a great idea)
chunes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d
The amount of legitimate software that's just batch scripts is pretty amusing. I always make sure to read and understand what it's doing in that case, though
gnufuu@lemmy.ca · 47 pts · 39d
"Break Stuff" is what you were looking for tbf
squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi · 16 pts · 39d
And it indeed broke stuff
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 8 pts · 39d
It's just one of those days
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 38d
Woke stuff can't be trusted.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 3 pts · 38d
You want everything to be asleep and useless?
fartographer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Then they can be like me!
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 39d
matrix_screensaver.exe and the like was popular for a bit.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 5 pts · 38d
It could have also been a proper .SCR (screensaver) file.
Because, fun fact: screensaver files on Windows are just renamed exes.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 37d
What- why?? There is some reason? I don't understans why it's a proper executable, it's such a security risk
Scrollone@feddit.it · 1 pts · 36d
I know, but remember that the .scr format was invented on Windows 3.1. It was a very different world then. No internet, no emails for the average user.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 36d
And they never changed hoe they work after that huh?
warbond@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 38d
They would put a bunch of spaces between the mp3 and the .exe so the other information columns would hide it
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 38d
Back circa 2000 I was a Visual Basic developer. In my corporate apps I would always put in easter eggs that would randomly throw up message boxes saying stuff like "No matter where you go, there you are." This always pissed off the c-suite types and they would demand that the source be found and eliminated, but none of the other developers ever found it. All I did was convert the message string to a series of CHR(n) commands, and for the MsgBox command I just put like a thousand spaces in front of it in a small, rarely-used file. A search for the text of the message would return nothing, and a manual inspection of the file wouldn't reveal anything unless you happened to notice the horizontal scroll bar this produced at the bottom. One of the applications I wrote is still in use at this company (and still occasionally throwing up these easter eggs) and it was basically a front end wrapping a mainframe program dating to the 1970s, which means that thing is still running.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Something mildly similar is how spam emails made it through our filters. In the email it'd advertise dick pills but when copying the email to notepad it looked like gibberish. I made the suggestion to highlight the email text and change the font-color and size to something uniform. Turns out they would insert 3 random characters in between each letter, and those 3 characters would be font size 1 and white while the letters of the actual message were 12 and Black.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
...I've actually never heard of that trick.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 39d
It was tricky to get used to the Linux mentality of not really having a dedicated double-clickable “executable type”. But it makes sense - if you want to run code, that should be a planned action by an app that is dedicated to the task of setting up new code. (Package manager, IDE)
FishFace@piefed.social · 11 pts · 38d
I mean you can just execute anything from the primary Linux interface - the commandline. It seems equivalent.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 38d
chmod +x file
./file
Katana314@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Well, casey beat me to it. By default anything you've grabbed from the internet or a flash drive won't have execute permissions on it, so it's intentionally more obtuse to run than Windows' simple "Are you sure you want to run this unknown publisher" dialog.
FishFace@piefed.social · 1 pts · 38d
Unless it was in an archive.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 39d
Ahh, good old VirusWire. Simpler times.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 39d
Hahaha. Back when you could format reinstall if thing went wrong and only lose a day.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 38d
I dont understand why windows now hides file extensions by default
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 38d
One take is that 'normal' users get 'scared' by extensions and do strange things like break their file by renaming the extension away or think they can literally convert a file between types by changing the extension.
And so they hide it away.
But it's bad logic because breaking things by trying to do weird stuff is how any of us who are technically literate became that way in the first place; by fucking around and finding out.
DakRalter@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 37d
I remember reading in a book that it was hard to actually break Windows, so I loved messing about in the settings. It was probably the 95 or 98 days where I turned on file extensions on my profile and never looked back.
I also played a part in infecting the family PC with about 500 different types of adware, but oh well.
I remember when I learnt you can customise the default icons for My Computer and the Recycling bin, so I used the image in the book or magazine as a reference and manually edited every pixel to make them golden.
cabbagepatchcrabs@retrolemmy.com · 2 pts · 36d
I was big into those magazines on how to tweak/modify Windows to go faster. One day I was reading up on compressing a hard drive to save space. So I compressed C: to save space. Sure learned a lot those years!
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 37d
Being technically literate? You surely meant to say enemy of technocracy...
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 37d
The problem is that if you hide it away, you make users more stupid which then it creates the problem you try to solve
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 38d
Mac (I think), iOS, and Android do.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 37d
Android doesn't
That's the "File" app which is the default file manager on all android phones (except a few brands that have their own thing but the app File is still there usually)
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 37d
Check your homescreen though.
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 2 pts · 37d
You mean the homescreen of the file app? The screenshot is from there
I assume you mean the file app because the homescreen of my phone nor other many phones i saw and used had files next to the apps
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 37d
Apps have extensions, so do links
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 36d
Android launchers ask to the system which apps are installed and which shortcuts were added, it's not like desktop OSes
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 36d
They aren't installed to a folder that the homescreen just displays, the homescreen launcher just asks android what apps are installed and displays their icons and when you press it, it asks android to launch the app, but yhere is a folder in data where there are system app apks but I haven't checked for non system apps. Edit: The files app also doesn't hide .apk extensions
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 36d
Ultimately it doesn't matter because file extensions are just for readability.
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Because they want to push power users away with hundreds of tiny cuts
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Because for the significant majority of users it doesn't matter.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 37d
Is telling if you are opening a virus trying to disguise itself as another file type not significant for the majority of users?
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 37d
Does it? I always see them.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 38d
Ah limewire. I miss the simplicity of those days.
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 38d
Soulseek is still around
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Limewire, ares, bearshare, kazaa, imesh...
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 39d
Surprise, it's a snuff film!
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 38d
deltree is the latest alt band blowing up! Download their whole discography!
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
I'll never forget downloading Max Payne. A single .exe. "This can't possibly work...an entire game!?"
Son of a biiiiitch. And I paid nothing!? Napster changed my life, for real.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
Napster was just mp3 files. There was a roundabout way around that where they had that method of zipping up an installer and changing the extension to .mp3.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Maybe it was Kazaa.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 37d
You mean Kazaa Lite K++, right?
I loved so much that one of the top downloads on Kazaa was a ripped version of the paid version of Kazaa.
khepri@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
I absolutely did not use that exact excuse when I was a teenage foreign exchange student and ruined the family's computer. Nope, no siree.