It's irritating that ivermectin now carries the stink of weird alternative medicine people. Its really helpful for treating rosacea (for which it is approved by the fda as a topical prescription drug, under the name soolantra)
Like its a perfectly useful antiparasitic and antiinflammatory, but now it will always just be "that weird horse dewormer that dumbfucks take"
Just about everything has been turned into a political issue in the last decade. Medicine (not Healthcare... modern medicines/drugs themselves), beer brands, avocados on toast, beef, eggs, children's films/books (that's not new, I guess, just hitting new levels recently), gas stoves, holidays, black pilots, etc.
I’m convinced that conservatives wake up in the morning and just choose something to be mad at. Green MnM losing her high heels, gas stoves, Starbucks, avocado toast, etc.
My son Jake, who’s 25, eats mayo. He’s a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He’s a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women’s and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise.
I think the tragedy is the mom not realizing that the mayo on the shelves today is for the most part only a distant relative of the "oil and egg yolk emulsion" she used to eat as a child.
That is, Millennials are justly rejecting a 100% chemical mix supposed to taste like a natural food, but whose ingredient list looks like a who's who of food processing science, while it makes her fondly remember something that spoiled quickly if not eaten after opening. You can't blame the young'uns for not having your memories.
Veganaise is full of highly processed and vat-grown ingedients, just like "ben 'n jerry's" has been trending.
Most restaurant stuff is full of compromises.
I think the 800 pound gorilla is cost vs quality, not nutrition. All those restaurants have shit quality, mcdonald's-like production lines, and are a suck-ass eating experience.
I'll join your friend. This is allso my favorite article now.
Lmao i really loved this part
They’re also shunning their parents’ preferred restaurants — Applebee’s, Ruby Tuesday, TGI Fridays — to seek out more authentic fare. Old-school eateries, in turn, are diversifying in their search for new customers. Just this year, Red Lobster rolled out a waffles-and-lobster option, and Red Robin launched a vegan burger. You don’t put mayo on a vegan burger.
Other favorites are
I’m not part of the elderly mayo masses; I’m turkey and Swiss on ciabatta with tzatziki, chipotle spread and a little basil pesto. That’s who I am, dammit. My sandwich, my self.
This is bullshit. This attitude comes to you from young people who willingly slurp down eight kazillion kinds of yogurt, not to mention raw fish and pork belly and, yo, detergent pods, so don’t talk to me about mayonnaise.
I thought young people today were supposed to be all about inclusion — about kindness and compassion and making other people feel welcome. So how about you include a little mayo in your picnic fare?
Just because something is old and white doesn’t mean it’s obsolete. Look at Shakespeare. Look at me.
I knew as I was writing it that the term was bad, but couldn't think of a good one. I meant layman, or something equivalent just for the field of medical science instead of law :-)
There's nothing wrong with using the term outsider in that context, I just wanted to check if I was understanding you correctly :)
Yeah ivermectins effect on rosacea is interesting. Its believed that in some cases rosacea may be aggravated or caused by an over abundance of demodex mites (microscopic skin mites that are on everyone's skin), but the exact relationship isnt well understood. So the ivermectin is used for its antiparasitic effect, and also being a topical anti inflammatory is helpful since rosacea is an inflammatory skin condition
The weird part is that if I understand right in clinical trials another antiparasitic was just as effective at killing the demodex mites if not more, but wasnt effective at treating rosacea. Sulfur is also uses to treat rosacea for its similarly antiparasitic and mild antiinflammatory properties. Its really strange to me what sorts of treatments it has- like topical and oral antibiotics- you wouldn't think that would treat it but thats several of the medications approved for treating rosacea
Rosacea is one of those weird conditions thats highly personal and we don't fully understand what's going on with it. It can also manifest with much more variety than people realize, including ocular rosacea, where instead of people getting flushing and redness like you expect (vascular rosacea), you get grittyness and irritation of the eyes. It also comes in phymatous rosacea which can be dysfiguring (which kinda terrifies me a little bit, I don't want to dislike my face), and papular pustular rosacea which looks a little like acne with small red bumps.
Also weird is that the condition progresses and becomes more severe over time. So exposure to your triggers doesnt just mean that your skin doesnt look great for right now, it also means it will continues to get more sensitive and harder to calm down when flaring up
God I fucking hope not lol. Its available over the counter at a lower percentage as a lice cream which is actually what I use since my insurance doesnt want to cover soolantra and its ridiculously expensive (like a tube of topical cream is more than $150 with goodRX)
I have no idea why the prescription is so expensive but its reputation for being unaffordable and hard to get insurance to pay for is pretty well known by people with rosacea. The lice cream from the Walmart store brand is like $25
Taking the appropriate dose of ivermectin for your body weight should be fine, it's effective at getting rid of parasites. And doctors really aren't the thing for that, unlike vets they're not really checking if you have parasites since most people don't.
So if your worried about parasites, get tested, don't just randomly poison yourself. Even here in vietnam they don't randomly injest poison because of a suspicion.
Exactly this! They started from some emotional/political/vibes-based treatment that didn't work because obviously, then suddenly they want to be all facts-driven when they could face some criticism for gumming up our healthcare system with their nonsense.
Hey, it's a perfectly reasonable solution for humans suffering from parasites. Just because some idiots take it for other things doesn't reduce its usefulness as a drug for humans under specific conditions.
My personal theory is that a not insignificant number of the people who took it and felt better outside of normal disease progression curves just had worms too.
Makes sense to me. I mean the odds that people that stupid are also riddled with parasites from ingesting shit crawling with parasites are pretty high.
I thought my depression was getting the better of me for lie 8 months and it ended up just being anemia from whip worms. Honestly I would straight up expect taking an antiparasitic would make a lot of people feel better without them and I assume salt of the earth types have them even more than I do.
As in all the other living being on this planet, stupidity in human being should also/usually be fatal and not coddled with ambulances and health care.
Wait. Can someone explain to me what just happened? I just googled those two meds and both are anti-parasites... What is happening here? Why are that expensive and why did they took them??
They could be trying to get rid of worms or some other parasites, since that's the only prescribed use of ivermectin and mebendezol in humans. But it's given in careful doses, not DIY from a bottle from a "wellness company". So who knows what they're trying to do.
It's really not. I wear flipflops with jeans with some frequency but still manage to believe in real medicine, and especially don't believe that pairing two antiparasitics (one not approved for human use) is a cure-all or even a vaguely rational treatment for anything other than being riddled with parasites.
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scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 154 pts · 27d
Please no emotions, I don't want to get my snowflake fee-fees hurt while suffering from the consequences of my moronic actions
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 112 pts · 27d
It's irritating that ivermectin now carries the stink of weird alternative medicine people. Its really helpful for treating rosacea (for which it is approved by the fda as a topical prescription drug, under the name soolantra)
Like its a perfectly useful antiparasitic and antiinflammatory, but now it will always just be "that weird horse dewormer that dumbfucks take"
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 27d
Just about everything has been turned into a political issue in the last decade. Medicine (not Healthcare... modern medicines/drugs themselves), beer brands, avocados on toast, beef, eggs, children's films/books (that's not new, I guess, just hitting new levels recently), gas stoves, holidays, black pilots, etc.
mursejoy@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 27d
I’m convinced that conservatives wake up in the morning and just choose something to be mad at. Green MnM losing her high heels, gas stoves, Starbucks, avocado toast, etc.
expr@programming.dev · 11 pts · 26d
It's not that far from the truth, it's just the thing they pick is what they saw on Fox News that morning.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 26d
Hey man even you have to admit the green M&M was way more sexy in heels.
damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d
Please don’t have wet dreams about a chocolate candy, green colored or otherwise.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 27d
This is my friend's very most favorite internet article
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/08/11/mayonnaise-industry-millennials/
It is about how millennials are ungrateful, unpatriotic mayonnaise haters. It does not appear to a joke article. It fills her with so much joy lol.
Enkrod@feddit.org · 14 pts · 27d
Holy shit 🤣
manxu@piefed.social · 10 pts · 27d
I think the tragedy is the mom not realizing that the mayo on the shelves today is for the most part only a distant relative of the "oil and egg yolk emulsion" she used to eat as a child.
That is, Millennials are justly rejecting a 100% chemical mix supposed to taste like a natural food, but whose ingredient list looks like a who's who of food processing science, while it makes her fondly remember something that spoiled quickly if not eaten after opening. You can't blame the young'uns for not having your memories.
angband@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/documents/nutrition/999hlmn5308_nutrition.pdf
Hellman's mayo does have a chemical preservative. "Natural flavors" is a bit suspect, too.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0149%2F3668%2Fproducts%2FReducedFat-Vegenaise.jpg%3Fv%3D1440685046&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=8fbe35872d7535be58d70da84a300e8f8053652ea8507e681d5b5e6c22084527
Veganaise is full of highly processed and vat-grown ingedients, just like "ben 'n jerry's" has been trending.
Most restaurant stuff is full of compromises.
I think the 800 pound gorilla is cost vs quality, not nutrition. All those restaurants have shit quality, mcdonald's-like production lines, and are a suck-ass eating experience.
baines@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 27d
kewpie japanese mayo
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 26d
That is one of the absolute best parts lmao
MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org · 9 pts · 27d
I'll join your friend. This is allso my favorite article now.
Lmao i really loved this part
Other favorites are
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 26d
That was hilarious.
Author's never stepped foot into an Asian grocery, and it shows.
That said, I feel reasonably certain it's meant to be tongue in cheek humour.
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 26d
There are simply too many quotable lines in this article. Amazing
Im going to have to watch this film however
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 26d
Don't say that, I don't want it to be 😭
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 26d
Yeah those things all just mysteriously "became" political.
We'll never be able to truly know who made "black pilots" political 🙄
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 27d
Interesting as fuck. Not something you'd expect as an outsider.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 11 pts · 26d
(Not the one who down voted you, I dunno why someone did that) what do you mean by as an outsider? Just that you don't have rosacea? :)
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 26d
I knew as I was writing it that the term was bad, but couldn't think of a good one. I meant layman, or something equivalent just for the field of medical science instead of law :-)
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 26d
There's nothing wrong with using the term outsider in that context, I just wanted to check if I was understanding you correctly :)
Yeah ivermectins effect on rosacea is interesting. Its believed that in some cases rosacea may be aggravated or caused by an over abundance of demodex mites (microscopic skin mites that are on everyone's skin), but the exact relationship isnt well understood. So the ivermectin is used for its antiparasitic effect, and also being a topical anti inflammatory is helpful since rosacea is an inflammatory skin condition
The weird part is that if I understand right in clinical trials another antiparasitic was just as effective at killing the demodex mites if not more, but wasnt effective at treating rosacea. Sulfur is also uses to treat rosacea for its similarly antiparasitic and mild antiinflammatory properties. Its really strange to me what sorts of treatments it has- like topical and oral antibiotics- you wouldn't think that would treat it but thats several of the medications approved for treating rosacea
Rosacea is one of those weird conditions thats highly personal and we don't fully understand what's going on with it. It can also manifest with much more variety than people realize, including ocular rosacea, where instead of people getting flushing and redness like you expect (vascular rosacea), you get grittyness and irritation of the eyes. It also comes in phymatous rosacea which can be dysfiguring (which kinda terrifies me a little bit, I don't want to dislike my face), and papular pustular rosacea which looks a little like acne with small red bumps.
Also weird is that the condition progresses and becomes more severe over time. So exposure to your triggers doesnt just mean that your skin doesnt look great for right now, it also means it will continues to get more sensitive and harder to calm down when flaring up
village604@adultswim.fan · 6 pts · 27d
With the screw worm on its way back, we might need it pretty still.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 26d
It would hilarious, and sad, if it eventually becomes a controlled substance over abuse concerns.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 26d
God I fucking hope not lol. Its available over the counter at a lower percentage as a lice cream which is actually what I use since my insurance doesnt want to cover soolantra and its ridiculously expensive (like a tube of topical cream is more than $150 with goodRX)
I have no idea why the prescription is so expensive but its reputation for being unaffordable and hard to get insurance to pay for is pretty well known by people with rosacea. The lice cream from the Walmart store brand is like $25
Triumph@fedia.io · 102 pts · 27d
You know what they call alternative medicine that actually works? Medicine.
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 27d
When the heart started failing dostors became a good choice lol
Jolteon@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 27d
The problem is that's not actually alternative medicine. It's medicine, just misused.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 26d
The dose makes the poison. Medicine is about more than just what you're consuming.
Enkrod@feddit.org · 9 pts · 27d
Ah :) Storm
toofpic@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 27d
Maybe let a doctor decide on what your body really needs, not the price of the bottle?
jdr@lemmy.ml · 48 pts · 27d
Ask your doctor if Zombocom is right for you!
el_twitto@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 27d
You can be anything with Zombocom.
lyrial@anarchist.nexus · 14 pts · 27d
Welcome ... to Zombocom. Welcome!
the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 27d
My voodoo doctor recommends it!
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 27d
if your doc is VET, for a HORSE, or cattle.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 26d
If your doctor recommends Ivermectin.....ewe might be a sheep.
-- Jeff Foxworthy
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 27d
Oh, what do they know anyway?
toofpic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
The doctor is a reptiloid, it knows everything, but it wonct talk with a straw man, only with a sovereign homesteader
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 27d
so he double dipped on antiparasitics, mebedezol is the other one.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · -31 pts · 27d
Taking the appropriate dose of ivermectin for your body weight should be fine, it's effective at getting rid of parasites. And doctors really aren't the thing for that, unlike vets they're not really checking if you have parasites since most people don't.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 30 pts · 27d
You can get tested for parasites wtf
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 27d
No one does is the point, because it's typically not needed.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 15 pts · 27d
So if your worried about parasites, get tested, don't just randomly poison yourself. Even here in vietnam they don't randomly injest poison because of a suspicion.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 26d
There is currently a parasite all over the US causing explosive diarrhea.
Sorry to break it to you, but we gutted the shit that protects us from shit like this. So get used to it.
maniclucky@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 27d
Why do you know whether or not doctors check for parasites? Are you a medical professional or otherwise associated with the profession?
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 27d
I've had plenty of physicals, and a fecal sample was never part of them.
In developed nations, testing for worms isn't needed unless the symptoms point towards worms.
It's kinda like how they don't check you for polio or the bubonic plague as part of a regular visit either.
maniclucky@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
So you're a lay person with no expertise or insight into the signs they look for to determine if checking for parasites are necessary?
I've had a bunch of physicals too and I don't think that qualifies me, in any way, to comment on medical standard practices.
athairmor@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 27d
Well, it wasn’t a high quality educational system, that’s for sure.
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 26d
🤣🤣🤣
luthis@lemmy.nz · 48 pts · 27d
I think what this guy needs is more ivermectin.
pigup@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 27d
It's got what horses crave
foiledAgain@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 27d
Water? The stuff in the trough?!
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 27d
Its got eletro-gallops.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 27d
or moo-cow.
massacre@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 27d
Probably just forgot about the bleach injection first...
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 27d
and injection of hydroxyquinilone.
starik@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 27d
Not to mention colloidal silver.
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 27d
And a nomination for the annual Herman Cain award.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23d
Just stand near them and tell them you got the vaccine. The imaginary spike proteins will kill them because it gave them acute hypochondria.
luthis@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 23d
A tragic fate. Couldn't happen to a more deserving person
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 40 pts · 27d
Find somebody who looks at you the way conservatives look at ivermectin.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 26d
So my dog when I'm making steak for dinner.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 26d
More like a rampantly-inbred bag of oops at the dog park when another furry fuckup is shitting out something delectable.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d
Two questions.
One, What the fuck kind of furry conventions are you attending?
And two, how can I join?
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 24d
Attend fascist furry cons? Who does that? 🤢🤮
Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 23d
National-Socialist Furry Wankers, that's who attend such places. 🤢🤮
Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 37 pts · 27d
Sir, you are not a horse
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 17 pts · 27d
There is no face in the picture ...
Bonus@mander.xyz · 31 pts · 27d
I want to jump out of my highschool window after smoking angel dust sometimes. Anyone have a good explanation for what I went through?
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 27d
Totally normal. Your body is just releasing all the toxins you've built up over a lifetime of not smoking angel dust.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 27d
Show the YouTube videos to the EMT to educate them!
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 27d
It’s polite to warn the people responsible for saving your life that you’re gonna be a frequent flyer
fedikitty@piefed.social · 21 pts · 27d
The way I gasped when I read the word ivermectin.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 27d
This is why vets don't give heartgard to new patients unless you do a heartworm test first.
OOP probably has heartworms.
starik@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 27d
All his worms died at once and clogged his shit up.
blackbrook@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 27d
Can brain worms cause the same thing?
laranis@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 26d
"only objective understanding"
Too late. Should have started with that, dumbass.
brianary@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 26d
Exactly this! They started from some emotional/political/vibes-based treatment that didn't work because obviously, then suddenly they want to be all facts-driven when they could face some criticism for gumming up our healthcare system with their nonsense.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 27d
lol. Ivermectin is still being ingested by humans in 2026...
Jolteon@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 27d
Hey, it's a perfectly reasonable solution for humans suffering from parasites. Just because some idiots take it for other things doesn't reduce its usefulness as a drug for humans under specific conditions.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 14 pts · 27d
My personal theory is that a not insignificant number of the people who took it and felt better outside of normal disease progression curves just had worms too.
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
Makes sense to me. I mean the odds that people that stupid are also riddled with parasites from ingesting shit crawling with parasites are pretty high.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 26d
I thought my depression was getting the better of me for lie 8 months and it ended up just being anemia from whip worms. Honestly I would straight up expect taking an antiparasitic would make a lot of people feel better without them and I assume salt of the earth types have them even more than I do.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 27d
Thoughts and prayers!
ReverendIrreverence@piefed.social · 10 pts · 26d
As in all the other living being on this planet, stupidity in human being should also/usually be fatal and not coddled with ambulances and health care.
jdf038@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 26d
Yeah this is a waste of healthcare services for sure.
You know they voted in a way that made that ride expensive and will just go ahead and vote to make it even worse
LilyVess@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 26d
Wait. Can someone explain to me what just happened? I just googled those two meds and both are anti-parasites... What is happening here? Why are that expensive and why did they took them??
alphabethunter@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 26d
He is a parasite, obviously.
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 27d
A failed Darwin award attempt.
Take a larger dose next time.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 26d
They could be trying to get rid of worms or some other parasites, since that's the only prescribed use of ivermectin and mebendezol in humans. But it's given in careful doses, not DIY from a bottle from a "wellness company". So who knows what they're trying to do.
boaratio@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 26d
Flipflops with jeans is all you need to know.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 26d
It's really not. I wear flipflops with jeans with some frequency but still manage to believe in real medicine, and especially don't believe that pairing two antiparasitics (one not approved for human use) is a cure-all or even a vaguely rational treatment for anything other than being riddled with parasites.
boaratio@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
Why not wear shorts if it's so hot? Glad you're sane otherwise ;-)
Btw, I'm only joking about all this. I went to college when that look first took off. I'll never do it, but that's just me.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 26d
Flops are just comfortable, it doesn't necessarily need to be that hot out, so long as it isn't actively cold or wet.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 26d
So close to a Darwin Award.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 27d
We don't do ivermectin but I did find a giant supply in the fridge behind the emergency beans. Is that of concern