The manosphere has a new dating hack: stop showering and let yourself stink
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/manosphere-dating-hack-pheromone-maxxing-b3039600.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/manosphere-dating-hack-pheromone-maxxing-b3039600.html
70 Comments
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 2d
Seems like good advice.
It lets women know which men are listening to these influencers.
Also: pheromones? Why does that continue to get airtime each generation? The organ that processes pheromones in most mammals isn’t functional in humans, and most people cover the inside of their noses with so much artificial scent that they can’t smell anything subtle anyway. So all you get from that is the stink of bacterial byproducts.
darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 2d
My wife says my sweaty body is attractive to her. I dunno, there may be some truth to this.
Old stale sweat is a no go of course.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 20 pts · 1d
Nah, the key word is "my". If she was actually sensitive to pheromones she would be attracted to the smell of all sweating men.
Quokka@quokk.au · 7 pts · 1d
I am certainly attracted to the smell of sweaty (clean) women, and even myself since transitioning. Women sweat is like ooof.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 1d
You can like a smell without pheromones being involved, more than likely it's just associative.
darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
It would stand to reason that different men emit differently balanced pheromones. Why would they all be the same?
My personal combination is attractive to her specifically. It's possible she would find some other men's sweat attractive as well, but I haven't asked.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1d
There is no scientific evidence to support that humans emit any pheromones, let alone a multitude of pheromones. Even if we did, we do not possess the vomeronasal organ that other animals have that allows them to detect them.
Epp@lemmus.org · 0 pts · 12h
You don't need a specific organ to have a reaction to chemical signals. A pheromone is just a chemical the body creates, and an external body responds to. That response can be due to smell, taste or even touch. No special organ is needed for any of those.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 12h
Yes..... you do? That would be like saying you don't need a nose to smell, or taste buds to taste.
No. Pheromones are chemical messages that trigger specific behaviour or developmental changes in an external body.
Smells and associations attached to smell are not the same thing as pheromones. In certain mammals and reptiles pheromones are received by the vomeronasal organ.
Epp@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 12h
You're trying to make pheromones out to be something not supported by the definition. Pheromones are chemicals created in one body, that have an effect in someone else's body.
Dictionary definition:
solo@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1d
It looks like the receptor of pheromones is present, but doesn't work. From [wiki]:
Epp@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 13h
That's not true. They may create a chemical signal that other men do not, due to their genetics. You can't assume uniformity in biology.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 12h
Any supporting evidence to this claim? I could just as easily claim that I have telekinetic powers that others do not because of my genetics.
Yeah..... You can. If there is an established norm, then there is no reason to assume extraordinary uniqueness unless presented with evidence that begs to differ.
Epp@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 12h
Yes, plenty.
Here's a good read for you
And no, you can't assume uniformity. That's like saying that cilantro tastes the same to everyone (it doesn't). Or that everyone can smell when someone has eaten asparagus from their urine (some can, and can't). Everyone is different. That's the effect of genetics.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 10h
"Here's a good read for you"
Apparently you did not choose to read your own source?
Ahh yes, a matter of subjectivity is exactly like claiming an objective fact......
Everyone has a range of expression that is influenced by their genes. Someone being able to attract all women with their specific smell would not be something we have previously observed in any human. Meaning it's safe to assume that it is not something someone's genes can express.
Ah yes, a study consisting of 25 people...... with no behavioural controls. Brilliant.
fervent_apathy@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 6h
Species-specific means they aren't inter-species, not that they're uniform across a species.
Intra-species variations of pheromone production has certainly been studied, the question isn't really whether it occurs, but rather why intra-species pheromone variations occur.
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 2d
Your wife tells me that too.
darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 2d
Dafuq?
Draegur@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 2d
Yeah, she loves her spouse so much she can't help but repeatedly bring up details about her spouse which she appreciates in attempt to make the strange creep who's hitting on her get a fucking clue.
But i don't have any compunction to be subtle like her.
Bro she doesn't like you. Stop bothering her and figure out literally anything else to do with your day other than hounding a married woman. You're making her extremely uncomfortable.
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 1d
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
If you still don't get it, that's your skill issue.
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 1d
It can be different when you know someone. But acquaintances and strangers? Nah that shit gross
lemmyvore@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 1d
I think the main issue is that there's no such thing as human pheromones... so whether we might be able to perceive them if they existed is entirely academic.
We are however capable of smelling body odours, and some of them are linked to sexual attraction or mate suitability and only appear after puberty.
Epp@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 13h
Pheromones are chemical signals that living organisms release outside their bodies to communicate with other members of the same species. If you think humans don't release chemical signals, you're mistaken. We don't have them mapped out because their creation and their reaction are both highly dependent on genetics of the creator and the receiver, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
However, yes, the smells created by bacteria will very likely overpower any positive benefit your pheromones could possibly impart. Fresh pheromone creation is where it's at.
Juice@midwest.social · 32 pts · 1d
Another example of how the manosphere is actually a way to confuse young men without dating experience into making themselves less attractive, so their resentment toward women who dont accept them despite "doing all the rigjt things" can be politically weaponized to reorient these men into fascist social reality
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 30 pts · 2d
The Manosphere: How To Never, Ever Get Laid
comfy@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 2d
The Manosphere: No Women Here
comfy@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 2d
It's a classic!
BucketBong@p.hobo.social · 27 pts · 2d
I can tell you from first hand knowledge, that does not work, not one bit.
skeezix@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2d
Youre not ripe enough yet. Give it another week
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2d
Once you stop wiping your ass and start drinking your own piss, you should start stinking in no time. The women will be smelling you for miles. 👃
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2d
It doesn't attract women but it does isolate men, which is what the manosphere is about. Because why would anyone look for women in a place called "the manosphere"?
antonim@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
Instance checks out
Today@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 2d
When my son was in college i told him, "Girls don't kiss boys who don't shower."
His response- "The girls I like do."
Ewwww.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 2d
How is he now?
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Encrusted in kisses
Today@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Showers regularly. Single. 🤷
VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1d
Still hasn’t washed that first one off
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 1d
This is, once again, an instance of some women having a fetish and then the manosphere trying to project this onto all women.
They are not capable of understanding that different women are different, they really believe that all women are the same and that if they have the right cheat codes they can make women do whatever they want. Women are not people to them.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Yeah being into post workout or "hasn't showered yet today" smell is honestly kinda common, especially on someone you already are into and like the smell of. Not showering at all or letting it keep going is however a rare variant, and even the common version is by no means universal.
And speaking as someone repulsed by testosteronized bo, please keep the post workout smell to those who've requested it
daggermoon@piefed.world · 19 pts · 1d
Please do this. I might actually have a shot if i'm the only good smelling guy around.
sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 1d
consult the graph
alapakala@quokk.au · 8 pts · 1d
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Also the sweat needs to be kinda fresh
Town@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 2d
Depression maxing?
Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf · 13 pts · 1d
Yes please, make it even easier to detect manosphere guys
iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 1d
Ah yes, nothing gets girls wet like the smell of crusted shit stains and sweaty balls
cdf12345@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
Epp@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 12h
Sex is inherently gross, so part of arousal is dialing down disgust. For some people, that dialing down goes overboard until it becomes an attractant in itself. So, as a result, they actually become aroused by disgusting things. Biology is wild.
rhythmisaprancer@quokk.au · 9 pts · 2d
I don't know about the "manosphere," but I wouldn't be interested in a man, or woman, who smelled. I work in an outside hard-working job, it isn't that hard to shower and clean clothes. Except on overnight jobs, but then we all smell. Most folks are not looking for dates then. Nobody I am around would be, but maybe i am too old or just fortunate.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1d
So Asmongold is peak manosphere?
Yeah, that tracks, uneducated bigot paid off by Israel using their exact talking points and has no original thoughts of his own.
Please, other men out there, teach your fellows what "masculinity" should be. Emotionally available and strong, using your strength to help others around you, protecting others less fortunate than yourself. What is the point of the privilege you lucked into if not to use it to help lift others up who aren't as privileged? And also learn to be strong and supportive. You have a lot of sway in everyday life over others. Learn to stand back and let others lead, learn to amplify others voices and use your strength to support them.
We really fucked up letting this whole machismo bs run rampant, making so many men, myself included, feel like we're failures if we're not uber successful in a broken capitalist system.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
They looking for violet lol
LemsGhost@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1d
The Chairman Mao method.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 1d
No, your revolutionary plasm isn't turning away reactionaries. Your ass just stink
Tangentism@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d
Aka The Motley Crue method
gankouskhan@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 1d
I am so tired of this shit. Last year it was women in the gym rubbing vagina juices on their necks to attract mates in the gym, and now this? I have a sensitive sense of smell and this is an affront on me.
lemmyvore@feddit.nl · 12 pts · 1d
Please. As if women need to do anything other than exist to attract attention at the gym.
kgbbot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 1d
Women want attention in a gym?
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1d
Yeah I thought the general school of thought on this was to completely act like they don't exist at the gym, because they don't want to meet people there.
JoYo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1d
Rule 30 leaked into IRL
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1d
Sorry chief I remember 34 and 35, what's 30 again?
JoYo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 14h
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 13h
Ah yes, thank you!
gankouskhan@bookwyr.me · 4 pts · 1d
I would assume most are not wiping their juices on their neck either in the same way only some men are stinkmaxxing
alapakala@quokk.au · -1 pts · 1d
unfortunately😔
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Oh I'm sure this will be a highly credible and well-sourced video that doesn't either not exist at all or lumps the action of one person in with all persons of an entire gender
alapakala@quokk.au · 1 pts · 1d
wat, no, it's a search result. you can make your own conclusions about it.
JoYo@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 1d
This was pretty common with women when I was in university. They said deodorant causes breast cancer so that's why they don't shower or shave.