Upvoted but you really should take them at face value on the revelations talk. They're not fucking joking.
edit: JD might be lying (IMO he's not) but his audience believe it 100% and they're being stoked towards violence at the institutional level https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)
When I say take them at face value, it's cuz we're talking about people who literally believe God will call them to genocide you. IYKYK
He's not talking about what he believes, he's a nihilist. He's saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do. Rolling coal, probably do some nuclear sabre rattling, do some ethnic cleansing sort of thing, you know.
He's not talking about what he believes, he's a nihilist
Respectfully disagree based on my personal experience being raised in a church that was very focused on revelations. IMO you'd have to grow up believing it yourself to understand.
He's saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do.
Yea their logic is circular but I promise you they fucking believe this shit.
Barring specific evidence to the contrary, both Occam & Halon's razers apply here. It is both a simpler explanation that he believes the scriptures in his religion AND there is no malice required for stupidity to explain what he's saying.
I'm not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don't think he's smart enough to do that and he's probably 100% serious.
This revelations talk is conditioning them towards violence.
Absolutely. I think his personal beliefs are not the dangerous part here. Its the beliefs of his cristo-fascist followers he's tapping into that worry me.
Not someone who grew up in one of those churches, but please don't sleep on the previous person's comment. Whether or not couch fucker believes what he says, there are more than enough idiots in their inner circle that do believe it (or are at least willing to go with it for the power) for that not to matter. And even side stepping on whether or not the people in the inner circle believe it, a fuck ton of stupid americans in bumblefuck USA absolutely do and are more than willing to partake in violence and justify it with religion or end times rhetoric, and will likely support them while they violate every maxim of christianity.
And just to tie in a very large media story, the Nat-Cs believe that the end times will come when the jews finally have their homeland back. So support for Israel can be drummed up in bumblefuck USA by tying this to the bible and making people thing that supporting Israel in their genocide is something akin to a crusade and something that god wants them to do.
And friend, if you don't think they can control how a large swath of stupid christians think, look into what they thought of abortion back in the 50s and 60s, and how quickly sentiment turned when the right turned abortion into their culture war wedge issue.
If you think I'm sleeping on anything, I haven't explained my position clearly. I will try: I studied psychology and I understand how dark triad personalities interact with authoritarian followers, and I saw the present dangers well enough to leave the country half a decade ago. Yes while Biden was still in office, yes during a pandemic with a toddler in tow. I saw all of this coming. Escape if you can, I don't know when the story ends but it isn't a happy ending. I know how they tick, and I know the history of how we got to this point. Quick math, shit is fucked. The empire is fucked, and maybe it could have been saved in a thousand small ways over hundreds of years, but it wasn't and here we are.
My only point originally was that Vance is, in my opinion, not a true believer. Just like Trump, whose only belief is that "I am the shit"; I don't think Vance even believes that, I think he's a cynical lowlife fuck who will say anything to get what he wants because he used to be poor and now all he wants is to feel powerful and safe no matter who it hurts. Probably his wife is cut from the same cloth, on paper she looks smarter than him but probably compromised to feel safe. He could have had an ounce of class consciousness, empathy, or personal integrity, but instead he just sucks a fat shit every chance he gets. He's spent his entire tenure as VP being Trump's heel, looking bad whenever Trump needs someone to pull aggro. Vance thinks he can play Wormtongue and wait for his chance to wield power. Dude was an atheist (when honesty cost him nothing) and hell, he might be the only motherfucker who converted to Catholicism in all of 2019. I've got his number, Vance is no true believer, he is a poseur down to his core.
His followers mostly are true believers, sure. Of course. If Trump told them the sky was communist, they'd say "how high?". They're idiots, or in academic language "authoritarian follower-type personalities". They compartmentalise their beliefs, exhibit relatively low logic and memory with regard to how badly their beliefs work as predictive models, and they avoid introspection like the plague (if MAGA cultists could be relied upon to avoid plagues, that is). They live to be told who the enemy is, how the enemy are not as human, and they delight to hear how badly the enemy is suffering whether it is true or not. That's all they really care about is to be told "the bad guys are dying and they suck, yay!"
I see the danger, and I see them in high resolution clarity. I don't even know what the newest absurdly beyond-human-perception screen format is called these days, but it's that.
You are 100% correct these people mean what they say.
They will smile at you as they say it and act friendly. But don’t think they won’t sacrifice or enslave you and anyone else who isn’t “them” if they could get away with it and increase their power.
Like I'm not moving the goalposts here, but JD believing what he's saying is irrelevant. He's using coded language that is well understood in Christian circles. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)
My real point, as someone raised in those circles, is that you should really fucking believe them when they tell you who they are.
Long story short, a perfect red heifer is needed to purify clergy in order for the 3rd temple to be consecrated. The only problem is that there's kinda an important mosque sitting where that temple would be.
I think he might, but one way or another, it’s irrelevant. That’s the narrative he’s selling and pushing for. The consequences of that narrative are real regardless of his beliefs.
The fuck you on about? Its not just a distraction from the Epstein Files.
They are trying to cause mass death. This isn't something I'm pulling out of thin air. They are child rapists AND they are genocidal maniacs. Two things CAN be true.
If anyone is defending them you are by saying that we should only focus on child abuse.
At this point I don't think the files would change anything. Everyone already suspects they are rapists and their followers have proven time and time again that they are willing to turn a blind eye to any and all deplorable behavior.
When Hitler invaded Poland you'd be the annoying guy saying "it's a distraction from the Beer Hall Putsch"! And you'd be doing it again when the concentration camps were discovered. Horrible people do lots of horrible things.
Nobody is saying we should forget the Epstein files or not hold Trump accountable. But for the love of God stop saying the other horrible things are a distraction. It's so stupid - at least rephrase it as "don't forget about Epstein" or something less dumb.
When you find yourself LITERALLY HITLERSPLAINING why President Rapist Pedophile ISN’T the problem we should be focusing on…
Well, I think it’s safe to say that you’ve lost the plot
WOW
Edit: and I blame you a lot less than I blame what the fuck is going on today
What the absolute motherfuck
Edit 2: you know, I don’t think that you and I actually disagree, it’s just that we’re both so much in shock about what’s going on, that we’re both trying to find our way in the dark
And if that’s the case? Well then best of luck to you buddy. Because our journey down this long dark road as far from over.
why President Rapist Pedophile ISN’T the problem we should be focusing on…
You're fucking joking? If that was your takeaway you're definitely reading things through "rawwr I'm angry!" glasses. It neither what I meant nor what I actually said.
You know here in Australia, people have tried to "cure" religions they don't agree with. White people have tried to exterminate Aboriginal religions. Because these religions were seen as dangerous and primitive.
Personally, I think taking people's religions away from them on a massive population level is genocide. Aboriginal Australians have faced genocide for their religion. And to Me, this meme looks like a call to genocide.
They don't know what the end times actually is/entails.
If you ask them for a proper explanation they can not answer beyond the fairy tale that they are taught.
But a specific thing grounded in reality they can not point to, and if they're called evil for wanting harm on millions of people you can see them think "how do I declare the victims to be evil?".
I'm convinced there currently are some in the US government who are so delusional that they think they in-person are one of the four horsemen personified....
Even worse, they don't even have a decent definition of "God". If they say something like that they worship "the God of Abraham" or "Yahweh" or "Jehovah", that's about as good as they can do to actually describe "God", just giving it a name.
If you ignore names and just ask them to describe "God" by its attributes, and get really into details, you'll find that no two Christians believe in the same god, and in fact, somehow, the "God" they describe will closely reflect their own beliefs more than anything else.
You do understand all these books by enslaved Bronze-age peasant tribes are made up... right??!
This is like saying someone doesn't understand what the true nature of the Aveda Kevadra curse is. Or the true taste of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow man. IT'S FANFIC
he's a catholic who disagrees with the pope and married an indian. I strongly suspect he's more of a generic chirstian at heart and not beholden in any way to big C catholocism.
Nope. The other way around. They're all praying for the Rapture and the 2nd coming...which all goes hand-in-hand with the end of the world. Heaven on Earth can't happen until God wipes the world clean, leaving only the righteous to inherit what's left.
This is why they support Israel unconditionally. Not because they love Jews...but because Jews need to return to Israel in order to start the final battle between good and evil. That's how they interpret the Book of Revelations. It's all Biblical end-times prophecy coming true, and they see it as their religious duty to make sure it all happens as predicted.
We've known for years that these Nationalist Christians wanted to bring about the end times, they're just finally at the point where they can finally say it out loud and not have to tap dance around it.
Fucking Nat-Cs, always have to make the world worse so they can get to the end of their fairy tale (despite knowing that they'll be left behind because they are the most unchristian people of all)...
I'm generally fine with their arrogant LARPing, so long as it remains on some compound in Texas or whatever. Taxpayer money going to find out that a religion has missed its 9 millionth End Times prediction in an unironic effort to make their god do things on their schedule is some tremendous BS.
I was born here and grew up here and I can tell you with no doubt that this place is far right wing evangelical. So far right that Asheville has the center for Billy Graham's cult and Ridgecrest. No they think Catholics are not Christian. I really have no idea why he converted to Catholicism other than he is willing to change his face to get what he wants.
Religious people make up a large portion of the dipshits who don't believe in stuff like germ theory...for instance Kennedy and Kegsbreath, do you want them in charge of sanitation?
You know most of maga supporters also used to hate Trump right? He was a Democrat and best friends with the Clintons and a big city fat cat, they do not care about anything except what helps them spread hate more easily.
Christianity turned to the anti-Christ in the 2nd century, with the doctrine that everything in the bible must be true, but what is chronologically first is more true than all corrections that were provided afterwards including by Jews in 1st temple, but more aggressively by Jesus. So Moses genocidal rights of the chosen people is the god of Christianity/Rome/Luther. Not anything Jesus ever said.
So if you kill yourself to go to heaven, that is a sin so you go to hell. On the other hand, if you do things to bring on the end times that's okay. So is he saying in the first scenario you can't fool god, but in the second you can. Time for a new god ... or better yet, none at all.
Bringing about the end times is ALSO not allowed: "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son,[a] but the Father only..."
These people are dangerous weirdos who don't even read their own fucking book.
They intentionally don't quote their book. Its a useful tool to draw the masses into their death cult.
The outcome is the same whether they actually believe in the Antichrist or they're using the language to control christian nationalists: they intend to kill millions.
this is how I know he's not the next pick for them. By now they would have forced him to end the marriage to Usha and shacked him up with Erika. they haven't pulled that trigger yet, so he's not next in line.
You don't understand, CF married a brown person. These are the same type of people that would have bought into blood quantum bullshit back in the day, they absolutely will turn on him at some point for not being 'racially pure' or for being a 'race traitor' on 'the day of the rope'.
He may get a pass longer than most cuz he's in power, but they'll turn on him none the less. Don't believe me? Go look up what Hitler's buddy Ernst Röhm did for him, and the reward it got him in the end.
Arguably, Usha makes Vance easier to control by the HF. At the drop of a pin, Vance will be labled a race traitor.
Ernst Röhm became too powerful and was a fool to believe he was an "exception" to Hitler's calculations of power. Rohm started advocating for social reforms and things that would weaken the wealthy and powerful.
Antisocial and narcissistic personality types do not, and cannot experience such a thing as friends. Everyone is a subordinate to them. To them? Wealth is meaningless. Its about power . Its about leverage. Its an abusive relationship from the top (Heritage Foundation) down.
I am convinced that extreme evangelical shitheads like him want to bring about the end times because getting raptured is their shot at getting into heaven without actually having to die first. Jesus comes and takes you to heaven without all that nasty dying business.
Netflix made a doc called "The Family" about that group. They started in 1935 and are Christian extremists who want the apocalypse to happen while they're alive so they can be raptured instead of dying.
Most people only know them from "the national prayer breakfast" something most of our politicians (regardless of party) attend and is treated like an official event and not pancakes with a death cult for our nations leaders.
Idk what’s up with that link, but, it’s the headline, a byline, and a picture of Vance with no links to elsewhere, and a full article on a Hatian kid from Springfield suiciding by traffic after ICE fit them all with ankle monitors. Not that the two stories aren’t linked by topic, but I’m not seeing this Vance interview.
SOLVED: the reader function hides the whole article and shows you one 3 down from the Vance article instead. That is fail.
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nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 167 pts · 15h
Oh, you're so close, J D
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 94 pts · 15h
This is Peter Thiel's ideology, almost verbatim.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 15h
They’re both on the Antichrist’s side
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 13h
And both have been inside each other
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 12h
's couches
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 7h
But also
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 31 pts · 13h
He's only VP because Thiel interceded for him...
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 15h
Closer than most physically, but so far from realization.
yakko@feddit.uk · 105 pts · 15h
Let's not pretend he believes anything he says.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 69 pts · 15h
Upvoted but you really should take them at face value on the revelations talk. They're not fucking joking.
edit: JD might be lying (IMO he's not) but his audience believe it 100% and they're being stoked towards violence at the institutional level https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)
When I say take them at face value, it's cuz we're talking about people who literally believe God will call them to genocide you. IYKYK
yakko@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 15h
He's not talking about what he believes, he's a nihilist. He's saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do. Rolling coal, probably do some nuclear sabre rattling, do some ethnic cleansing sort of thing, you know.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 15h
Respectfully disagree based on my personal experience being raised in a church that was very focused on revelations. IMO you'd have to grow up believing it yourself to understand.
Yea their logic is circular but I promise you they fucking believe this shit.
Barring specific evidence to the contrary, both Occam & Halon's razers apply here. It is both a simpler explanation that he believes the scriptures in his religion AND there is no malice required for stupidity to explain what he's saying.
I'm not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don't think he's smart enough to do that and he's probably 100% serious.
This revelations talk is conditioning them towards violence.
https://streamable.com/2yj2tj
yakko@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 15h
I can respectfully disagree on that, I doubt we disagree on how dangerous he is.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 15h
Absolutely. I think his personal beliefs are not the dangerous part here. Its the beliefs of his cristo-fascist followers he's tapping into that worry me.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 11h
Not someone who grew up in one of those churches, but please don't sleep on the previous person's comment. Whether or not couch fucker believes what he says, there are more than enough idiots in their inner circle that do believe it (or are at least willing to go with it for the power) for that not to matter. And even side stepping on whether or not the people in the inner circle believe it, a fuck ton of stupid americans in bumblefuck USA absolutely do and are more than willing to partake in violence and justify it with religion or end times rhetoric, and will likely support them while they violate every maxim of christianity.
And just to tie in a very large media story, the Nat-Cs believe that the end times will come when the jews finally have their homeland back. So support for Israel can be drummed up in bumblefuck USA by tying this to the bible and making people thing that supporting Israel in their genocide is something akin to a crusade and something that god wants them to do.
And friend, if you don't think they can control how a large swath of stupid christians think, look into what they thought of abortion back in the 50s and 60s, and how quickly sentiment turned when the right turned abortion into their culture war wedge issue.
yakko@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 4h
If you think I'm sleeping on anything, I haven't explained my position clearly. I will try: I studied psychology and I understand how dark triad personalities interact with authoritarian followers, and I saw the present dangers well enough to leave the country half a decade ago. Yes while Biden was still in office, yes during a pandemic with a toddler in tow. I saw all of this coming. Escape if you can, I don't know when the story ends but it isn't a happy ending. I know how they tick, and I know the history of how we got to this point. Quick math, shit is fucked. The empire is fucked, and maybe it could have been saved in a thousand small ways over hundreds of years, but it wasn't and here we are.
My only point originally was that Vance is, in my opinion, not a true believer. Just like Trump, whose only belief is that "I am the shit"; I don't think Vance even believes that, I think he's a cynical lowlife fuck who will say anything to get what he wants because he used to be poor and now all he wants is to feel powerful and safe no matter who it hurts. Probably his wife is cut from the same cloth, on paper she looks smarter than him but probably compromised to feel safe. He could have had an ounce of class consciousness, empathy, or personal integrity, but instead he just sucks a fat shit every chance he gets. He's spent his entire tenure as VP being Trump's heel, looking bad whenever Trump needs someone to pull aggro. Vance thinks he can play Wormtongue and wait for his chance to wield power. Dude was an atheist (when honesty cost him nothing) and hell, he might be the only motherfucker who converted to Catholicism in all of 2019. I've got his number, Vance is no true believer, he is a poseur down to his core.
His followers mostly are true believers, sure. Of course. If Trump told them the sky was communist, they'd say "how high?". They're idiots, or in academic language "authoritarian follower-type personalities". They compartmentalise their beliefs, exhibit relatively low logic and memory with regard to how badly their beliefs work as predictive models, and they avoid introspection like the plague (if MAGA cultists could be relied upon to avoid plagues, that is). They live to be told who the enemy is, how the enemy are not as human, and they delight to hear how badly the enemy is suffering whether it is true or not. That's all they really care about is to be told "the bad guys are dying and they suck, yay!"
I see the danger, and I see them in high resolution clarity. I don't even know what the newest absurdly beyond-human-perception screen format is called these days, but it's that.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9h
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15h
you weren’t brought up by Peter Thiel, and probably didn’t go to Yale Law (no offense intended, most of us didn’t)
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 15h
Neither were the thousands to millions of christo-fascists currently being stoked toward violence. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj
JD believing what he's saying is irrelevant when his audience believes it. He uses coded language that has charged meanings in Christian circles.
EoD smart americans should not assume dumb americans don't believe that crap. Cuz they do.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 14h
Of course, but that wasn’t the point.
The point in question was that JD Vance very likely does not believe this bullshit, irrespective of what his followers believe or do
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 14h
But what is your point? You've contributed nothing to this conversation. I find your comments vapid and annoying.
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4h
You are 100% correct these people mean what they say.
They will smile at you as they say it and act friendly. But don’t think they won’t sacrifice or enslave you and anyone else who isn’t “them” if they could get away with it and increase their power.
idntknow@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 15h
Exactly. Vance says whatever he thinks will make him more popular. Always has, always will.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 15h
Like I'm not moving the goalposts here, but JD believing what he's saying is irrelevant. He's using coded language that is well understood in Christian circles. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)
My real point, as someone raised in those circles, is that you should really fucking believe them when they tell you who they are.
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 13h
And they're also talking with a lot of people in Israel who really believe in that language too. Texas ain't sending red heifers to Israel for beef.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13h
I'm almost afraid to ask but what new hell is this?
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13h
Long story short, a perfect red heifer is needed to purify clergy in order for the 3rd temple to be consecrated. The only problem is that there's kinda an important mosque sitting where that temple would be.
Mike Johnson also all tied up in this.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12h
boy they really get into the apoca-fan-fic....
and of course Johnson is wrapped up in it, he's dumber than a box of rocks.
thanks for the deets
shartgargle@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11h
So let's say there was a huge crater there... That would stop this madness, right? /s
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 8h
Well yeah but no
Fundamentalist Christian extremists will happily burn the world to a crisp tpnget their imaginary Christ to come down
These people are terrorists and they're your government. Great job, USA
irate944@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1h
I think he might, but one way or another, it’s irrelevant. That’s the narrative he’s selling and pushing for. The consequences of that narrative are real regardless of his beliefs.
eurodyne@piefed.world · 73 pts · 14h
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 10h
Look, I understand the concern.
But these guys are actually a death cult. Just like Nazis were. Maybe we should, you know, point out that the rapists are murderers too.
eurodyne@piefed.world · 8 pts · 8h
Yeah, and that starts with holding them to account, there doesn’t work if
So stop defending President pedophile
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 5h
The fuck you on about? Its not just a distraction from the Epstein Files.
They are trying to cause mass death. This isn't something I'm pulling out of thin air. They are child rapists AND they are genocidal maniacs. Two things CAN be true.
If anyone is defending them you are by saying that we should only focus on child abuse.
eurodyne@piefed.world · 3 pts · 4h
Waffelmeister@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 5h
Picture needs more germs.
Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 6h
At this point I don't think the files would change anything. Everyone already suspects they are rapists and their followers have proven time and time again that they are willing to turn a blind eye to any and all deplorable behavior.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1h
When Hitler invaded Poland you'd be the annoying guy saying "it's a distraction from the Beer Hall Putsch"! And you'd be doing it again when the concentration camps were discovered. Horrible people do lots of horrible things.
Nobody is saying we should forget the Epstein files or not hold Trump accountable. But for the love of God stop saying the other horrible things are a distraction. It's so stupid - at least rephrase it as "don't forget about Epstein" or something less dumb.
eurodyne@piefed.world · -1 pts · 26m
When you find yourself LITERALLY HITLERSPLAINING why President Rapist Pedophile ISN’T the problem we should be focusing on…
Well, I think it’s safe to say that you’ve lost the plot
WOW
Edit: and I blame you a lot less than I blame what the fuck is going on today
What the absolute motherfuck
Edit 2: you know, I don’t think that you and I actually disagree, it’s just that we’re both so much in shock about what’s going on, that we’re both trying to find our way in the dark
And if that’s the case? Well then best of luck to you buddy. Because our journey down this long dark road as far from over.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 11m
You're fucking joking? If that was your takeaway you're definitely reading things through "rawwr I'm angry!" glasses. It neither what I meant nor what I actually said.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 16h
Like in the Bible? Because that's not real
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 41 pts · 15h
You know that and I know that but a truly shocking number of ostensibly responsible adults ... don't
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 4 pts · 11h
You know here in Australia, people have tried to "cure" religions they don't agree with. White people have tried to exterminate Aboriginal religions. Because these religions were seen as dangerous and primitive.
Personally, I think taking people's religions away from them on a massive population level is genocide. Aboriginal Australians have faced genocide for their religion. And to Me, this meme looks like a call to genocide.
Dragomus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14h
They don't know what the end times actually is/entails.
If you ask them for a proper explanation they can not answer beyond the fairy tale that they are taught.
But a specific thing grounded in reality they can not point to, and if they're called evil for wanting harm on millions of people you can see them think "how do I declare the victims to be evil?".
I'm convinced there currently are some in the US government who are so delusional that they think they in-person are one of the four horsemen personified....
BillyClark@piefed.social · 5 pts · 14h
Even worse, they don't even have a decent definition of "God". If they say something like that they worship "the God of Abraham" or "Yahweh" or "Jehovah", that's about as good as they can do to actually describe "God", just giving it a name.
If you ignore names and just ask them to describe "God" by its attributes, and get really into details, you'll find that no two Christians believe in the same god, and in fact, somehow, the "God" they describe will closely reflect their own beliefs more than anything else.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 2 pts · 11h
You do understand all these books by enslaved Bronze-age peasant tribes are made up... right??!
This is like saying someone doesn't understand what the true nature of the Aveda Kevadra curse is. Or the true taste of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow man. IT'S FANFIC
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 14h
Christians will be happy with a close approximation just as long as they can make sure it's everyone else that's fucked.
gukleszl4hs48ughgxhr5xgd@fedia.io · 1 pts · 14h
I will make it
legalreal.Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 15h
US Evangelism is a doomsday cult.
Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 13h
And JD Vance is a Catholic, but is obviously pandering to their death cult base
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 13h
he's a catholic who disagrees with the pope and married an indian. I strongly suspect he's more of a generic chirstian at heart and not beholden in any way to big C catholocism.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 7h
Goa is a very Catholic region in India, I think you meant to specify Hindi, not Indian.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 6h
He's not any of those things. He's a power hungry grifter. All the Christian talk is for the marks.
X@piefed.world · 6 pts · 14h
100%, without question.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10h
Its not a doomsday cult. Its a death cult. Its far worse.They worship death not Armageddon.I was wrong. Doomsday cults are scarier.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 9h
Nope. The other way around. They're all praying for the Rapture and the 2nd coming...which all goes hand-in-hand with the end of the world. Heaven on Earth can't happen until God wipes the world clean, leaving only the righteous to inherit what's left.
This is why they support Israel unconditionally. Not because they love Jews...but because Jews need to return to Israel in order to start the final battle between good and evil. That's how they interpret the Book of Revelations. It's all Biblical end-times prophecy coming true, and they see it as their religious duty to make sure it all happens as predicted.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5h
I stand corrected. I looked it up, and it is a doomeday cult. Death cults can very different . Its a type of death cult.
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12h
The zealots of Abrahamism all are.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 11h
We've known for years that these Nationalist Christians wanted to bring about the end times, they're just finally at the point where they can finally say it out loud and not have to tap dance around it.
Fucking Nat-Cs, always have to make the world worse so they can get to the end of their fairy tale (despite knowing that they'll be left behind because they are the most unchristian people of all)...
hansolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 4h
I'm generally fine with their arrogant LARPing, so long as it remains on some compound in Texas or whatever. Taxpayer money going to find out that a religion has missed its 9 millionth End Times prediction in an unironic effort to make their god do things on their schedule is some tremendous BS.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 23 pts · 6h
and people wonder why I despise of religious folk in charge
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 5h
hes a faux chatholic, became one to get elected by appalachians apparently. and he was handpicked by anti-christ thiel.
ProfThadBach@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3h
I was born here and grew up here and I can tell you with no doubt that this place is far right wing evangelical. So far right that Asheville has the center for Billy Graham's cult and Ridgecrest. No they think Catholics are not Christian. I really have no idea why he converted to Catholicism other than he is willing to change his face to get what he wants.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 5h
Religion should disqualify a person from anything above a janitor.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 12 pts · 4h
Janitor, depending on the work place have contract with children. So maybe not
bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1h
I thought children can't sign contracts
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1h
Religious people make up a large portion of the dipshits who don't believe in stuff like germ theory...for instance Kennedy and Kegsbreath, do you want them in charge of sanitation?
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 9h
Because MAGA hates this cunt, and he wants to run for president in 2028. He is going after a group even worse than MAGA - American faux Christians.
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1h
You know most of maga supporters also used to hate Trump right? He was a Democrat and best friends with the Clintons and a big city fat cat, they do not care about anything except what helps them spread hate more easily.
lemmelemmy@feddit.org · 2 pts · 5h
Don’t worry they’ll start a propaganda praising him all maga sheeple’s would vote for him again.
The poll results are controlled by big tech now.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 4h
MAGA hates him?
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 15h
Name one thing that he has done that the bible god wants done
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 15h
I mean, supposedly, bringing about the end of the world is what American Christian god wants.
csolisr@hub.azkware.net · 4 pts · 15h
Bringing a potential Anti-Christ, for one
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 6h
thats Thiel, and his well know apostates is karp, and ALTMAN.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 15h
Fucking couches is in the bible surely?
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 13h
Christianity turned to the anti-Christ in the 2nd century, with the doctrine that everything in the bible must be true, but what is chronologically first is more true than all corrections that were provided afterwards including by Jews in 1st temple, but more aggressively by Jesus. So Moses genocidal rights of the chosen people is the god of Christianity/Rome/Luther. Not anything Jesus ever said.
SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 15h
Maybe he's forced Jezebel into bed and killed the kids.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 6h
having the most fabulous eyeliner .
RotatingParts@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 14h
So if you kill yourself to go to heaven, that is a sin so you go to hell. On the other hand, if you do things to bring on the end times that's okay. So is he saying in the first scenario you can't fool god, but in the second you can. Time for a new god ... or better yet, none at all.
Blibly@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 14h
Bringing about the end times is ALSO not allowed: "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son,[a] but the Father only..."
These people are dangerous weirdos who don't even read their own fucking book.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10h
They intentionally don't quote their book. Its a useful tool to draw the masses into their death cult.
The outcome is the same whether they actually believe in the Antichrist or they're using the language to control christian nationalists: they intend to kill millions.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 16h
He thinks it'll let him hang out with Erika without Usha getting in the way.
rozodru@piefed.world · 6 pts · 14h
this is how I know he's not the next pick for them. By now they would have forced him to end the marriage to Usha and shacked him up with Erika. they haven't pulled that trigger yet, so he's not next in line.
Blibly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 14h
Why? Do you think fascists ever hold themselves or their leaders to their own standards?
What are you gonna tell me next? That Hitler was blonde and blue eyed? That Trump is a macho religious man?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11h
You don't understand, CF married a brown person. These are the same type of people that would have bought into blood quantum bullshit back in the day, they absolutely will turn on him at some point for not being 'racially pure' or for being a 'race traitor' on 'the day of the rope'.
He may get a pass longer than most cuz he's in power, but they'll turn on him none the less. Don't believe me? Go look up what Hitler's buddy Ernst Röhm did for him, and the reward it got him in the end.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h
Arguably, Usha makes Vance easier to control by the HF. At the drop of a pin, Vance will be labled a race traitor.
Ernst Röhm became too powerful and was a fool to believe he was an "exception" to Hitler's calculations of power. Rohm started advocating for social reforms and things that would weaken the wealthy and powerful.
Antisocial and narcissistic personality types do not, and cannot experience such a thing as friends. Everyone is a subordinate to them. To them? Wealth is meaningless. Its about power . Its about leverage. Its an abusive relationship from the top (Heritage Foundation) down.
loaf@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 15h
“Sure, I’d be okay with the world ending because of my actions, since I believe in a fictional character written by bored people 2000 years ago.”
This guy’s skull is an empty lot.
el_twitto@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 14h
How about if old Couch Fucker brings about his own personal end times?
Maestro@fedia.io · 7 pts · 15h
I am convinced that extreme evangelical shitheads like him want to bring about the end times because getting raptured is their shot at getting into heaven without actually having to die first. Jesus comes and takes you to heaven without all that nasty dying business.
DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth · 7 pts · 15h
"None of you are going to heaven."
-God or Bo Burnham or something, idk
dontgogettingtooclever@piefed.social · 1 pts · 11h
What has Bo Burnham been up to since that COVID special?
Zephorah@discuss.online · 4 pts · 15h
By the lore, you have to be a good person to go there. Jesus reads like a radical hippy. I don’t think Vance qualifies.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15h
You commented 3 minutes after someone who just talked about a group (them) attempting exactly that.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 15h
I think bringing about the end times might actually be the goal of this administration
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 15h
Not just this administration...
https://www.britannica.com/topic/new-religious-movement
Netflix made a doc called "The Family" about that group. They started in 1935 and are Christian extremists who want the apocalypse to happen while they're alive so they can be raptured instead of dying.
Most people only know them from "the national prayer breakfast" something most of our politicians (regardless of party) attend and is treated like an official event and not pancakes with a death cult for our nations leaders.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15h
They're doing a damn fine job. At the end times things. Being raptured is as likely as me being crowned King of England.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h
"Pancakes with a Death Cult" would be a great historical analysis book title.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 6h
he is death after all demostrating by reaping the pope. and death is one of the herald of the apocalypse, and strongest of the 4 horsemen.
what better way to demostrate by reaping the soul of a holy person.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 9h
Dispensationalist losers
Zephorah@discuss.online · 4 pts · 15h
Idk what’s up with that link, but, it’s the headline, a byline, and a picture of Vance with no links to elsewhere, and a full article on a Hatian kid from Springfield suiciding by traffic after ICE fit them all with ankle monitors. Not that the two stories aren’t linked by topic, but I’m not seeing this Vance interview.
SOLVED: the reader function hides the whole article and shows you one 3 down from the Vance article instead. That is fail.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 11h
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
You know who is in his end times?
Charlie "The Neck" Kirk
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 5h
but its the beginning of ERIKA's celebrations.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1h
That's cuz he can spend more time with his bee-elza-"bud".
mkwt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 13h
Well it's not gonna happen yet. They almost bred the perfect red heifer in Texas, but when they sacrificed it they found a couple of black hairs.
So it's gonna be a while longer before the prophecy can be fulfilled.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 14h
Dems are too much pussies to kill you all.
Blackdoomax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2h
I m ok too if he starts by himself.