75% of what AI does can be achieved with a magic 8 ball, rubber duck, Wikipedia, and a good notes app

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Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 5d (8 replies)

yeah, but the problem is that the world isn't made for people who can use rubber ducks, magic 8 balls, wikipedia and good notes apps.

the world is made for the people that need the obnoxious laugh track and a person reacting to an Instagram reel, otherwise they don't know how to feel.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 5d (4 replies)

That's why before any job interview I put a bluetooth speaker in my pocket. Then when I'm about to walk into the room where I'm being interviewed I play a sound file. 5 seconds of silence, followed by a studio audience reaction of when the hot person enters the room.

You know the one.

Hot person enters through the doorway, says 1 sentence, and pauses because the audience is about to lose their shit going WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for 3 seconds. Then the actor says the line again, and continues with more that the one sentence.

So as I'm opening the door, I hit play, walk through the door.

"Hi, I'm here for the interview.......WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Hi, I'm here for the interview. Here's my resume."

"What was that?"

"Oh, that was just the studio audience reacting to the arrival of the main character in your story."

So far it hasn't worked. But I still get the ego boost!

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 5d (1 reply)

I wonder if Darth Vader had his theme music playing under his cloak as he walked around the death star.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d

If he doesn't, he could always start. He has changed the deal. Pray that he doesn't change it further.

Because when darth vader brings princess leia on the deathstar, she looks around. What does she see? Nothing but open space. There's nowhere for her to run. What's she gonna do? Say no?

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d

I'm gonna have to try that

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

they need a soundboard for federal hearings and trials.

'the honorable judge peterson presiding' <AWOOGA!>

Krudler@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 5d (2 replies)

I was interested in this really hot chick, but what ground me down and made me lose interest was that she would not stop sending me these videos... Top 50% of the video somebody would be telling a conspicuously fake "funny" story, on the bottom half of the video was the SAME person but pretending to gut-laugh on a 3 second loop. Omfg.... She was an 11 out of 10 but I just couldn't take it. I cannot pretend I find these things funny.

Kanda@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 5d (1 reply)

I believe this is why they invented pump and dump schemes

Krudler@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d

I was okay with ignoring and replying LOL to them all

But what I was not okay with was the alleged humor content repeatedly later coming up in personal conversation

She would reference something from some reel that had critical impact on her, and it would go over my head because of course I had not watched it. "But you replied LOL" 😮‍💨

gedfromgont@piefed.ca · 71 pts · 5d (4 replies)

Edit: magic 8-ball, who downvoted this?

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 5d (3 replies)

Why is the character holding a bowling ball instead of, ya know, a billiard 8-ball?

Ironrod@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 5d
  1. He's just that stupid

B) 8 balls are significantly smaller than magic 8 balls so it would ruin the joke in the first panel

gedfromgont@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 5d

I think he's stupid.

Source: magic 8-ball

Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 5d

Why is he holding a single ball instead of 8?

FrowingFostek@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 5d (5 replies)

I approve of this new use of archive in relation to AI.

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 5d (4 replies)

Someone described politics today as a viscous cycle. Took me waaaay to long to realize what they were saying.

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 5d (3 replies)

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 5d

LMAO Thank you!

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d (1 reply)

How's that working out for you?

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 5d

ikr? I kind of definitely want one.

thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 5d (2 replies)

archived? i assume you mean achieved

spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 5d

Haven't you heard of the archival formats .8bal .duk and .zim?

gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 4d

Well In my defense you can technically use Wikipedia and Obsidian to archive information about AI so Im still technically correct.

pet1t@piefed.social · 11 pts · 5d

Someone tell Arthur Weasly the rubber duck actually has a function!

bedwyr@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 5d (7 replies)

Heads up, AI related bonds are imploding. Taking the entire bond market with it perhaps. There is a very real chance of a recession very soon.

Glytch@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 5d (2 replies)

If you're working class the recession is already here

cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 5d (1 reply)

Ya ordinary people have been broke since before covid, but that's their problem. But when the stock market tanks, it's everyone's problem and we are all in this together.

Glytch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d

Welfare Bailouts for me not for thee.

spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 4d

Recession soon™️

::: spoiler spoiler Bitch it's been here lmao :::

DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 4d (2 replies)

What are "AI related bonds"?

Bond yields are mostly being driven up by pensions cashing out.

AI companies have no reason to invest in government bonds afaik, much too long-term for their immediate investment needs

bedwyr@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 4d

Data center build outs, and whatever else. When it implodes the government will bail them out for concessions to fuck us.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 4d

AI companies don't buy government bonds, but some AI companies sell their own bonds. Google and Oracle for example and I believe SoftFail is also looking to sell bonds so they can refinance a loan they used to get a stake in ClosedAI.

Google's most egregious bond is one that matures in 2126. You'll only be paid interest until a century from now when you'll get the principal back. A ridiculous investment if you ask me, but they say it's fine because thanks to AI they'll earn a gazillion dollars by then and surely won't go bankrupt.

It should also be mentioned that a large proportion of bonds aren't government bonds at all, companies selling bonds isn't anything new, there's basically two ways for a company to raise funds: Sell bonds or sell equity. Bonds are preferable if you know you can pay them back easily because nobody gives up any shares.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 5d

industry spend

Remember, when you're off the car lot, you have to drop the salesbrochad jargon. It's 'spending' .

melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 5d

And at least 60% of AI could be done in a lounge on a cocktail napkin, without a subscription.

atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 5d (18 replies)

Speaking of good notes apps, does anyone know one that is on linux?

rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 5d (11 replies)

I find that the default gui editor that comes with each desktop is good enough in most cases (xed with cinnamon, mouse with xfce, kate with kde, etc). But if you're looking for a terminal editor, a lot of people are praising micro as very user-friendly with solid functionality.

HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d (8 replies)

Micro all the fuckin way. *pumps fist like a crazy-person *

LostWanderer@fedia.io · 4 pts · 5d (7 replies)

I opened Micro out of curiosity as it's installed on Garuda Mokka by default. ROFL It's just an unseasoned barebones window, but some people like that kind of note taking. I would prefer Kate over Micro. If I had to choose (Kate is better for configurations or Python scripts that you don't need to debug yet).

HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 5d (4 replies)

micro is surprisingly powerful and has a good chunk of plugins you can use. it's def my favorite and it's really approachable.

LostWanderer@fedia.io · 1 pts · 5d (3 replies)

I guess it doesn't seem like it to me on the surface, as there must be a config file that needs to be edited to get those enabled because I couldn't find evidence of that on my basic inspection. So I decided to try out Obsidian, as I have been using Standard Notes, Filen and other such things for my notes. I might give it a go again at some point...

HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Do it! Plugin list is Here!

LostWanderer@fedia.io · 1 pts · 4d

Well, that's interesting I might try it someday soon...Just to say that I have, and I am partial to anything that embraces Fish!

kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 5d (1 reply)

an unseasoned barebones window

That'd be because micro doesn't do a window, or at least doesn't need one. It's a terminal text editor, which some people prefer in general, but it can also be used without a graphical environment - like when SSHing into a server or recovering your system if the graphical environment breaks. Or if you're editing critical system configs with sudo and want to do it from tty with a simple editor to minimize points of failure.

LostWanderer@fedia.io · 2 pts · 5d

Yeah, I did mention that some people prefer a more barebones experience...But, I also recognize that it doesn't fit my own use case. Based on what you said, Micro has a solid use for situations where there isn't a graphical environment or need to minimize complication when working with critical system configs. There are levels of minimalism that I can't truck with, so I will let people enjoy Micro without serious critique. Just casually poking fun at the idea...

Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 5d (1 reply)

How hard is it to learn from a scale where 0 is VScode slop and 10 is VIM?

atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5d

Considering how many buttons vs code has, micro seems easier to use

kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 5d (1 reply)

Obsidian, featured in the meme, is on Linux, and for a while now free of charge (but with paid official plugins for syncing and web publishing), and I'd say is pretty good.

I honestly just take notes in sublime text myself, which is paid, but I'm paying for it anyways and often have it open in the background. It can store unsaved tabs in some session file, so I can just put unimportant notes in a tab and have them available to open later.

I also want to mention nextcloud notes, I don't use it for much so I don't know how good it is, but I have a nextcloud instance and use the notes for simple notes I want to be able to access from my phone.

atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5d

I completely missed that

LostWanderer@fedia.io · 4 pts · 5d

I prefer Standard Notes, can be used for free and offline, full on backups. I have transferred the same set of notes from countless machines. Sadly it is pretty locked down in terms of features, they really want to get that cash out of a user. It's still pretty useful and has access to basic features. Which are enough for me...

SuperUserDO@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 5d (2 replies)

I'm a big fan of triliumnotes.org.

Single application, or if you want to wire it up as a server you can do that as well. Few small quark's - the biggest two are a mediocre mobile experience (to me) and lack of multi user support.

atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 5d (1 reply)

I was going to try out trilium notes, but there was a recent post on this community about how much ai generated code was used and that problems have recently appeared

SuperUserDO@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 5d

Welp. That's good to know. I'm terrible at updating so I guess I'll just not.

damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 5d

Obs being in there is very funny to me.

Suavevillain@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5d

People really feel some type of way if you're not impressed with AI. But it just isn't useful enough for day to day and makes up stuff along with being destructive to the planet.

Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 5d

This is the dotcom bubble on steroids. These chat bots have a low barrier of entry. The hardware shortage is the only reason they can charge charge excessive amount for access.

In 10 years your phone will be able to run ChatGPT locally. They know this and it's why they need to sell everyone on these models constantly improving but cannot provide metrics that satisfy anyone who isn't all-in.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d (4 replies)

More like 99% of what AI does.

Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 5d (3 replies)

Now, how is an 8-ball supposed to burn trillions of dollars, pollute the air and ruin the water?

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 5d (2 replies)

The rubber duck, obviously.

Aneb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d (1 reply)

A rubber duck can do no harm. I thought we knew that. Now the companies that made rubber ducks well fuck them, they should pay heavy fines

Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5d

When has the duckocratic oath prevented anyone from doing anything?

Nickelalloy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5d (2 replies)

So what is up with the duck?

Not sure with the ball either but seems to me it is a bit folk loreish in the US for some reason.

boonhet@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 5d (1 reply)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

The ball is called a magic 8 ball and it's a toy popular in the US, you ask it a question and it gives you a random answer

Marcopolo1613@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 5d

Ah, you beat me to the reply. But yes, the implication is that a random answer is a good as AI, and if you explain your problem to a rubber duck you often find the solution by forcing yourself to think about it step by step.

Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 5d

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 5d (1 reply)

Why would anyone wanna archive what an AI does?

gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 4d

For when we put the tec bros on trial for destroying our planet.

hardcoreufo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d

Running a local llm in obsidian is actually pretty useful but I'm not asking it to do much. Just search my human notes and find/summarize them. Is it a useful tool yes, would I let a cloud provider touch my notes absolutely not.

greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 5d
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CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d (7 replies)

Cmon this is getting ridiculous. How is this any different to being anti-vaxx at this point you are just straight up denying science for... Similar reasons to anti-vaxxers I guess? Keeping in mind anti-vaxx is psychological warfare and you are being crowbarred here for similar reasons.

There was companies that overhyped medical breakthroughs that doesn't make me hate medical science whats up with you guys? This crap has fallen on DLSS literal ethical AI that uses the GPU you are running a game on.. It's just nonsense anti-intellectualism.

And don't get me wrong there is plenty of problems with AI, but they have never been addressed here in the same way problems in medical research aren't addressed in anti-vaxx spaces.

gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Your argument can be applied onto literally anything. If you dont drink Pepsi your an anti-pepsier and a anti-intellectual because it has so many proven productivity benefits!

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 4d

No it cannot. The guy I replied to literally referenced a paper they didn't understand. It's actually a perfect comparison. Nice try science denier

wieson@feddit.org · 0 pts · 4d

The medical research takes up less than 25%, so it is well within the statement of this meme.

Luccus@feddit.org · 0 pts · 4d (3 replies)

Current "AI" is actually shitty tho'.

Any frozen weight models are architecturally unable to lean anything new, while dynamic weight models require entire datacenters to run for every instance. The scale of low-effort slop has crippled the internet as a knowledge source, and we are currently poisoning entire towns and the earth at large making up problems to solve.

Look at Nvidia, look at Huggingface. Huggingface literally offers their AI detection right next to their AI obfuscation. Meanwhile Anthropic is constantly hyping bullshit. I just read the "J-Space" article, and holy crap, LLMs use hidden layers to encode and infer relarionships, wow. I thought this was the whole idea behind machine learning, but I guess, saying that won't secure another billion dollars.

The entire space is full of people without any idea what they are looking at, and with LLMs taking up all the space and money, actually good ideas, like probabalistic proteine folding, are tossed to the side.

The only kinda good thing I see is Markdown making a comeback. And that's just "good", because I like Markdown.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 4d (2 replies)

Any frozen weight models are architecrurally unable to lean anything new

The sky is blue.

while dynamic weight models require entire datacenters to run for every instance

Erh wrong.

The scale of low-effort slop has crippled the internet as a knowledge source, and we are currently poisoning entire towns and the earth at large making up problems to solve.

AI is a force multiplier here yea but these are pre-existing problems target the source if you want a solution flailing your arms around in ignorance gets ya'll nowhere.

Huggingface literally offers their AI detection right next to their AI obfuscation

Yea they are machine learning subjects Huggingface is a hub.

I just read the “J-Space” article, and holy crap, LLMs use hidden layers to encode and infer relarionships, wow. I thought this was the whole idea behind machine learning, but I guess, saying that won’t secure another billion dollars.

Are you trying to trick these people into thinking you understood what you read? Be careful with that, they will believe you.

The entire space is full of people without any idea what they are looking at, and with LLMs taking up all the space and money, actually good ideas, like probabalistic proteine folding, are tossed to the side.

Exactly my point, against you.

The only kinda good thing I see is Markdown making a comeback. And that’s just “good”, because I like Markdown.

So you have no integrity when it comes to Markdown being written for you okay.

Luccus@feddit.org · 0 pts · 4d (1 reply)

Why would you replace " with “ ?

You're actually alluding to another good point here. Humans are naturally equipped with perhaps one of the most complex computers we know; free for life! Yet a bunch group of people are now increasingly unable to use it. Thanks to relying on LLMs, even for the most basic of tasks.

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 4d

You wouldn't take medical advice from an anti-vaxxer that wilfully misinterprets research papers.

Just stop... Go learn so you can have discussion with decision makers and researchers then you can effect change. This place is bad for you. These are NPC's that will reinforce stupidity evidently it is not an AI problem.

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d

Also almost any package manager.

Just use dependencies if you don't want to bother with writing a parser library! You don't need to ask AI every time for an XML parser every time you need to touch XML! (Personally I try my best to not touch it outside of text formatting needs, where XML actually excels at, it's poopy at data storage you otherwise could use INI, TOML, JSON, or whatever other languages.)

Grimy@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 5d (14 replies)

Magic 8 ball, build me a simple blackjack app

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 5d (9 replies)

Ask the duck, the duck will tell you how.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 5d (8 replies)

The GitHub repo and Wikipedia articles/sources will show you just fine. The 8-ball just determines which words it uses to summarize.

Delascas@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 5d (7 replies)

And the duck? I'm at a bit of loss on the functionality of the duck . . .or . . just because we all need a rubber duck???

mzesumzira@leminal.space · 4 pts · 5d (1 reply)

The duck can be anything really, it's the explaining out loud your issue that helps find what you're missing. It's a popular programming technique

WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5d

Yeah Rubber Ducking, OKA Rubber Duck Debugging. You are working on a program, say a store front end, and you are having issues and you don't know why. You get someone else, they don't even have to be a programmer but it helps, and then you explain briefly and clearly, step by step what you are trying to do, and most of the time the issue will become clear and if not the other person can point out something you are missing because you are too close to the code and you also know what you want to put into it, but that doesn't mean you put it in, and you just think you did.

The name comes from a guy who used to carry around a large rubber duck for when he couldn't get people to explain it to, and he would explain it to the duck. Allot of programmers use dolls and teddy bears instead of ducks. Back when I was programming I did it to the game box of H2G2TG. I didn't learn what it was called until 6 years later from a fellow programmer in collage (IIRC) but it was the same thing.

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d (3 replies)

I read through all the comments hoping someone would explain the rubber duck part. Your comment’s at the bottom of the page, and yet it’s the first one I’ve seen to question it.

Does anyone know what the rubber duck is supposed to add? Inquiring minds want to know!

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d (1 reply)

It's about talking to something (anything, but a rubber duck is common) outloud just to voice your questions and talk through things.

Effectively, you're just conversing with yourself.

WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5d

Actually no. It can be that but the idea is that you should talk to someone who isn't involved with what you are doing and one of two things happen, you have a lightbulb moment like you are talking about which you can be talking with the wall at that point, or the person you are talking to is supposed to see the blatantly obvious thing you are missing and then they tell you about it. It is called Rubber Ducking because one of the guys carried around a rubber duck when developing stuff and he couldn't easily get another person to stand there and listen to him whinge on about what he was doing. It is still better to have a thinking person there but you can't always have what you want.

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5d

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

The joke is that "talking to a rubber duck" is probably just as effective as talking to a chatbot

bedwyr@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 5d

The duck is used for it'scorkscrew penis, you don't want to know.

Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 5d (1 reply)
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 5d

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackjack_ace.blackjackace

This is the one to use if you wanna play IRL. Instead of playing entire games you play single hands, its kind of like flash cards, to help you memorize the statistically correct play for any given hand.

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5d

Totally off grid + wireless, no power or data connection required, and it respects your privacy.

gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 4d

That would fall into the 25% of things you actually need AI for. But also that has been done...like thousands of times, you can just go download it.