God that’s fucking annoying. The other week I was listening to a podcast that also has episodes on YouTube. They were talking about farming and had to bleep the word ‘rapeseed’. The fuck are we doing guys.
You used to be able to watch beheadings online, now a farmer can’t even talk about his crops online without the censorship police getting involved…
No doubt there’s still sites which have it, but it feels like it used to be more common to run into that sort of material, even on places like YouTube.
I’ve only seen one - journalist Daniel Pearl. It was shown when I studied journalism back in 2002. Part of a cautionary discussion about the dangers of reporting on war and conflics.
What you're referring to is a recent trend of social media platforms enforcing a wordlist ban, causing people to resort to using "newspeak", coined from the book 1984.
Newspeak was a language where negative words were not allowed. You can literally see it on platforms like TikTok, where people say "unalive" instead of "kill", "seggs" instead of "sex", or "oui'd" instead of "weed".
Algospeak is the use of coded expressions to evade automated moderation algorithms on social media platforms such as TikTok and YouTube. It is used to discuss topics deemed sensitive to moderation algorithms while avoiding penalties such as shadow banning or downranking of content.
i don't think newspeak is a good term for it, that implies an authority is forcing specific language onto people to limit their communications
what's happening is the precise opposite, people are inventing new language to keep communicating the same things despite being censored, it's the exact same thing that happened in hong kong with the chinese censorship.
That's a good point! I've always heard it referred to as newspeak, but there is indeed a small but important distinction between the two.
The end result is similar, but the way there is the opposite (blocking vs enforcing)
I think comparing it to newspeak is still a good warning however, as they are caused by similar pressures applied in different ways, but algospeak is the more accurate term.
Self-censoring swearing and serious topics will never not be ridiculous to me. I especially dislike the trend if censoring them by replacing letters with numbers/symbols, because I don't see that well...
I'm fine with self-censorship so long as it's also self-aware and funny, llike that D&D group on youtube where they replace penis with "schmenis", that outright elevates things.
Ideally take the opportunity to be creative with euphemisms, blur the line between censorship and art.
fuck nazism and especially fuck corporations like alphabet inc that force content creators to censor words like Hitler and holocaust because they're not "advertiser friendly" enough
Fuck, Alphabet did it during COVID. YouTubers had to talk around the pandemic or the Great Algorithm of Everything might demonetize or de-prioritize their videos. Yes, let's not talk about the most pressing topic affecting the entire planet because it makes a few marketing geniuses sads... brilliant.
Actually my daughter's school in California has a stress group one for girls and one for boys where they get together to discuss stress in their life. They're allowed to curse in that group But only there. They're in 4th grade... I don't have an issue with it but I hate that 4th graders even need a stress group. This country is whack.
Same. Also not to say it in public. The other rule is you can't curse at us. You can say bitch not you call Mom a bitch and you are on your own and better run lol.
Yep. Already went through that last year haha, one of my daughters called my wife (her stepmom) a bitch to her stepbrother; she was grounded for a week. Thankfully she and my wife are getting along much better - lots of therapy and counseling. My ex is a narcissistic cunt and likes to drive wedges between the kids and everyone else they're involved with. My eldest is wise to it now though.
I've taught my kids that there are grownup words that they can use once they're a grownup. They'll heard grownups use these words but they aren't to use them themselves. And probably around the time they're grownup enough to figure out the ruse they'll be about grownup enough to understand when to and not to curse
I use voice dictation a lot. When I use it for work I need to censor myself.
When I come to Lemmy I'm not going to go through the trouble of finding the voice dictation setting 12 layers deep so that it won't censor the word fuck.
Inadvertently some assholes comes along after every one spicy comments to let me know I can say fuck on the internet.
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AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com · 96 pts · 1y
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 1y
Suicide and murder are normal words as well. I'm seeing things like weed or cocaine blocked lately too.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1y
Suicide is normal word sure, but Toaster-bath is more fun
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 1y
Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Ye it's hard being a protogen :(
TheBat@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
psud@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
The opening song for the movie and tv series MASH was Suicide is painless
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 1y
GTA RPers would be pretty fucked if they needed to stop saying the names of drugs
kautau@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
.ml users hate this one weird trick
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYrmWuylCwo
Stovetop@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 1y
usernameusername@lemm.ee · 29 pts · 1y
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 1y
Appropriate Voyager/dbzer0/my isp fail:
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 1y
I literally only opened the comments to ask someone to do this. Lol. Thank you for anticipating my needs
otacon239@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
https://youtu.be/mz5ODQCueP8
Stovetop@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Think of the advertisers! They need a nice, sanitised environment to keep their bullshit in.
HawlSera@lemm.ee · 45 pts · 1y
Meanwhile on Youtube "This PDF File Game-Ended himself because he was caught with Child SA Corn and now he's unalive."
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
God that’s fucking annoying. The other week I was listening to a podcast that also has episodes on YouTube. They were talking about farming and had to bleep the word ‘rapeseed’. The fuck are we doing guys.
You used to be able to watch beheadings online, now a farmer can’t even talk about his crops online without the censorship police getting involved…
Mac@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 1y
Maybe the farmer shouldn't depend on corporations for their platform then.
HawlSera@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
Build a Youtube alternative
SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social · 1 pts · 1y
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Well sure, but you also used to :D
No doubt there’s still sites which have it, but it feels like it used to be more common to run into that sort of material, even on places like YouTube.
I’ve only seen one - journalist Daniel Pearl. It was shown when I studied journalism back in 2002. Part of a cautionary discussion about the dangers of reporting on war and conflics.
Sabata11792@ani.social · 41 pts · 1y
In going to say it...
Unprotected handholding.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y
I wish I had some pearls I could clutch.
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 1y
I'll allow it, but i better not see any exposed ankles
scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 1y
That makes me uncomfy 🤢🤮
madjo@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 1y
Filth!
CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee · 35 pts · 1y
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 1y
What you're referring to is a recent trend of social media platforms enforcing a wordlist ban, causing people to resort to using "newspeak", coined from the book 1984.
Newspeak was a language where negative words were not allowed. You can literally see it on platforms like TikTok, where people say "unalive" instead of "kill", "seggs" instead of "sex", or "oui'd" instead of "weed".
CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee · 18 pts · 1y
klu9@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 1y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y
Thank you, I wasn't aware of this term!
https://lemmy.ca/comment/15035910
klu9@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y
You're welcome. I only learned of it myself a few weeks ago.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 1y
i don't think newspeak is a good term for it, that implies an authority is forcing specific language onto people to limit their communications
what's happening is the precise opposite, people are inventing new language to keep communicating the same things despite being censored, it's the exact same thing that happened in hong kong with the chinese censorship.
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
That's a good point! I've always heard it referred to as newspeak, but there is indeed a small but important distinction between the two.
The end result is similar, but the way there is the opposite (blocking vs enforcing)
I think comparing it to newspeak is still a good warning however, as they are caused by similar pressures applied in different ways, but algospeak is the more accurate term.
pseudo@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 1y
My french is in pain 🥖
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1y
My keyboard doesn't have a fuck key so I don't know how to type it
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 1y
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Ka-tarl
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
Pig-Up
joyjoy@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
All this computer hacking is hard work. I think I'll have a tab.
Glytch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
No time for that, the computer's starting!
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 1y
start with F
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 24 pts · 1y
I want a c*nsored version of this
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 29 pts · 1y
A cuntsered version?
hank_the_tank66@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
A cfucknsored version
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 1y
Y*s
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 1y
Nice try but I don’t wanna be grounded
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 1y
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 1y
Noooo 😭
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 1y
that feels so massive 😳
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Are you phallomorphing circuit diagram symbols?
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 1y
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masse_(Elektronik)
mass in german literally refers to ground
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
woosh
madjo@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 1y
Not very girthy though
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1y
My internet is appalled
Hupf@feddit.org · 5 pts · 1y
OverTheFiniteSun@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 1y
Self-censoring swearing and serious topics will never not be ridiculous to me. I especially dislike the trend if censoring them by replacing letters with numbers/symbols, because I don't see that well...
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 1y
I'm fine with self-censorship so long as it's also self-aware and funny, llike that D&D group on youtube where they replace penis with "schmenis", that outright elevates things.
Ideally take the opportunity to be creative with euphemisms, blur the line between censorship and art.
OnASnowyEvening@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I loved how Blade Trinity at least recognized the absurdity (for TV channels that required censorship)...
Original:
Censored:
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 1y
I learned all of my Chinese from Firefly
lorty@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1y
Specially on lemmy where there's no algorithm to begin with
Korrok@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Right? If you don't want to swear you don't need to swear, what's the point of using asterisks lol
OverTheFiniteSun@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
This is also exactly why I was never interested in places like TikTok even befitting they bent the knee to the US, not gonna lie.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 1y
It's like graffiti on the wall of buildings, that keeps the rent down.
"fuck" on the internet keeps the advertisers away.
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
::: spoiler German https://taz.de/Der-Kampf-um-die-Waende/!6070022/ :::
Cordyceps@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 1y
FUCK
androidul@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1y
parmesan@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
fuck nazism and especially fuck corporations like alphabet inc that force content creators to censor words like Hitler and holocaust because they're not "advertiser friendly" enough
OnASnowyEvening@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Fuck, Alphabet did it during COVID. YouTubers had to talk around the pandemic or the Great Algorithm of Everything might demonetize or de-prioritize their videos. Yes, let's not talk about the most pressing topic affecting the entire planet because it makes a few marketing geniuses sads... brilliant.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 1y
Fuck I forgot about the whole "human malware" thing
Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 1y
fuck
nailbar@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1y
On the Intenet
bfg9k@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Darmok and Galad
At Tenagra
Taleya@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 1y
Got two generations raised on Pleasing The Algorithm, we are so fucked
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Cooked.
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Cucked.
redhat421@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
Red Dwarf, on the other hand, used Smeg. Which today is a company that makes excellent fridges.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1y
Smegma is a word, though.
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y
I was not exactly in dire need of being reminded of that, thanks
klu9@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 1y
What the fuck?
Maiq@lemy.lol · 9 pts · 1y
Somebody else's list.
otacon239@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
I loooove his standup. I have a whole collection of his stuff.
taanegl@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1y
You gotta be fucking kidding me!
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1y
beanie@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
Not according to Reddit, who has gotten ridiculously ban-happy
sebinspace@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I got banned from a subreddit for linking to another subreddit..
Lemmist@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
letsgo@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 1y
fuck yeah!
Thorry84@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 1y
You can't say fuck in school you fucking fatass!
KingJalopy@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 1y
Actually my daughter's school in California has a stress group one for girls and one for boys where they get together to discuss stress in their life. They're allowed to curse in that group But only there. They're in 4th grade... I don't have an issue with it but I hate that 4th graders even need a stress group. This country is whack.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
We let our kids swear at home. It's a legit stress relief.
KingJalopy@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
We do too but seems risky letting them at school for those who don't let their kids.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
We just teach them that not everyone is allowed to talk that way and then try to answer any questions that may come of it.
KingJalopy@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Same. Also not to say it in public. The other rule is you can't curse at us. You can say bitch not you call Mom a bitch and you are on your own and better run lol.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 1y
Yep. Already went through that last year haha, one of my daughters called my wife (her stepmom) a bitch to her stepbrother; she was grounded for a week. Thankfully she and my wife are getting along much better - lots of therapy and counseling. My ex is a narcissistic cunt and likes to drive wedges between the kids and everyone else they're involved with. My eldest is wise to it now though.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 1y
I've taught my kids that there are grownup words that they can use once they're a grownup. They'll heard grownups use these words but they aren't to use them themselves. And probably around the time they're grownup enough to figure out the ruse they'll be about grownup enough to understand when to and not to curse
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 0 pts · 1y
i'm curious, why do you not have an issue with controlling what kids say? To me that seems really quite profoundly fucked up and authoritarian.
Toribor@corndog.social · 5 pts · 1y
Except for me. **** is my password so if I type **** Lemmy automatically censors it.
Lime66@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
You fool! Now I can steal your credit card information using... The login to a social media platform without in app purchases...
Emmie@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
No it isn’t. I just tried and it doesn’t even meet minimum character length
sunoc@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
Phoque ?
tetris11@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1y
FUCKING
oeLLph@feddit.org · 5 pts · 1y
Word https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=fuck What's with the old fuck?
xorollo@leminal.space · 9 pts · 1y
rumba@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1y
I use voice dictation a lot. When I use it for work I need to censor myself.
When I come to Lemmy I'm not going to go through the trouble of finding the voice dictation setting 12 layers deep so that it won't censor the word fuck.
Inadvertently some assholes comes along after every one spicy comments to let me know I can say fuck on the internet.
F*** them.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Why would you have censorship on your dictation software? It's not like you want either "fuck" or "f***" in professional writing
rumba@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y
is perfectly acceptable at my job
someguy3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Duck that.
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 1y
Fuck you, I wont' say what I want... don't? Fuck...
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 1y
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me! Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!
DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
The radio version be like
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
PixellatedDave@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Well I suppose if you wanted to then you could. I mean I don't swear when I speak so I don't feel I need to online.
redlemace@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
As long as as it isn't on reddit yes, you can
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
but i dun like it.,---,.,.- it sounds aggressive, angri and uncomfy >~<
callyral@pawb.social · 4 pts · 1y
what the flip
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
yes!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
u get it! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
makes me feel like - --,.,.,- WAY more comfy!! <3 <3 <3
thanksiesforplayingalong!AlwaysNurture@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
UwU
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 1y
whaddu you evn mean by thattddd -.-, -.
u gotta.,.. be mor specifc!!.,-,. ~ ~ ~ ~
AlwaysNurture@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
UwU iz adorbz
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 1y
You motherflippers all think this everything is a motherflipping joke
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1y
are you fecking sure about that?
madjo@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 1y
Frell! Frick! Frak! Fsck!
Hiro8811@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Fuck this! Fuck that! But do you think my fucks are infinite?
JargonWagon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Everyone only has a limited number of fucks to give. Whenever you see it censored, they have simply run out of fucks.
howrar@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y
removed
removed removed removedin removed
sirico@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 1y
Fricking cool
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 1y
I've no more fucks to give
thatradomguy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Fuck
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
It isn’t like the old days. Religious people are among us now.
pseudo@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 1y
But I don't want to.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 1y
Oh crackers!
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Oh dear. Now you've done it.
qyron@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
Nonetheless, I must ask: who, where, when and how?
oo1@lemmings.world · 2 pts · 1y
obligatory bunk mcnulty do csi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNVEQgXsBgs
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Fuck yeah!
finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
My Name Is Buck And I Like To Fuck
Bend Over And Touch Your Toes,
I'll Show You Where The Wild Goose Goes.
~William Shakespeare circa. 1589
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y
Type fuck to pay respect
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
f**k
MJKee9@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
My Lanta!
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Oops
zer0nix@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Culpeppers! Straight culpeppers!
SexDwarf@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I can think of a word no one's brave enough to say...
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Morph9@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y
F**K!
ngwoo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Gonna heckin unalive if I see someone say fr*ck on the internet
LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
You can almost even do it online
astro_plane@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Fuck balls
Xenobiotic@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y
Real sh*t
maplebar@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
Fuck when the fuck did that become fucking acceptable?