i just love it that they made like 20.000 of these and when one turned out to be correct it's just so correct it makes you resonate with a random dead guy from a hundred years ago
I always love small misconceptions about technology that didn’t exist yet. In this case: no chance of silencing or turning off the device. Cracks me up!
I was honestly ready to whine about the timing and this not making sense.. but no, turns out my timeline, despite being based on books that were supposed to be well-researched, was way off. And indeed the first chatter about mobile phones was around 1908. Til.
Reminder that Socrates was said to have hated books because they corrupted the youth, weakening students’ faculties by removing the need to memorise information.
Every single generation since records have existed thought the new tech was ruining us.
We also have a lot more knowledge than we used to. Socrates didn't have to remember about molecular metabolization pathways or the energy transition of a turbium atom, or what the arbitrary name has been given to a medium coffee at Starbucks.
While the concert and wedding are events where you should turn off your ringer, it's certainly true that phones can ring at inconvenient times. A big enough problem to outweigh the benefit of being able to check in, find people, call for help, etc. from nearly anywhere? Absolutely not, but it's still a pretty accurate prediction.
If anything reality is better off: many people do know various ways to keep their phones quiet but more importantly we use phones for much more than talking. Every time someone texts, so there is no ring, that might have been a call back then
Let’s be honest with this one. Most are probably just too lazy or inept feeling to figure out how to turn them off for themselves. The phone companies seem to have their software install with max volume and haptics turned on by default.
...and the call back ring tones. For about 5 years i hated calling one person in particular because id have to listen to Hey, Soul Sister every..fricken....time.
When i was around 14, around the nokia 3210 times, we all made our own ringtones.we would download cheat sheets of music we liked and put it in and suddenly: friends theme song.
One of my friend made a voice recording where he sang: "Telephone... Pick up. Telephone... Pick up".
Even now this is the funniest ringtone i have ever heard, and i had it as my own ringtone until my phone died. Even now when i hear a phone i can only think: telephone.... Pick up!
I don't get that at all. I assume it's partly some ADHD or autism or what do i know. I had a girlfriend who would unbuckle her seatbelt 5min before we arrived and the car would just beep louder and louder and whatever. It drove me insane. I know it's just a minor thing, but i never understood how you couldn't be bothered with that. Especially because it's very easy to not do that. I never got used to it, when she did it when i was driving, i would just stop and wait until she buckled up again.
Women in my experience point blank refused to keep their phones in their pocket and instead put it in the purse along with everything else so whenever it rings (assuming they even hear it in there) it's always a mad dash to get it out before the person on the other end dies of old age.
I’ll apologize first: Sorry, kind internet stranger, you walked right in one of my pet peeves. (Now I feel morally justified in starting my rant with a level of emotional involvement that is totally and admittedly unjustified)
WOMEN’S POCKETS ARE A F****ING JOKE! Have you ever tried putting anything more that the glimmering sparkle of a summer night in a woman pants pocket? It either falls right off or tries to stab the kidney once the poor girl sits down. Usually both.
Because pants need to be stupidly skinny and form fitting, not made for comfort or for carrying anything!
My toddler’s pockets (2 years old) are bigger than mine!
/end rant, feel free to ring me up for extra rants on the subject
I feel like i've become highly attuned to the sound of a phone and can hear it anywhere in a room. The disadvantage is of course a lingering stress whenever i get confused with a similar sound or someone elses phone
old.people... always old people. The same people that would fucking call someone. I'm 43 yo and I nor anyone I know call anyone of it's not an emergency
I absolutely hate text messages. I refuse to spend hours of my time sending text messages back and forth to solve a problem that a 60 second phone call could have disposed of.
This is why you actually answer the phone to prevent 300 voicemails. That's on you if that happens. And I have repeatedly found that a one or two line text message NEVER conveys the whole message because people do not know how to create a cognizant thought. So I can either spend hours texting back and forth to get the whole picture or you can call me directly, answer my pointed questions, and be done in 60 seconds or less.
I'm not going to answer the phone call that happens at an extremely inconvenient time just to have a three minute chat that could have been a 15 second text.
If back and forth starts going, then it's time for a call.
However text first to establish:
Is it shorter to take care of in text. Particularly if one party of the conversation tends to be needlessly verbose, text can be a godsend to let you skim their BS and cut to the chase.
If there has to be a conversation, when would be a good time.
If it doesn't need 911, society needs to accept that people are sometimes just not immediately available and be accommodating.
I will answer my phone if one of a handful of people call me if at all possible, but sometimes it just isn't in the cards. It's convenient to take care of seemingly urgent matters that way, but it's not the end of the world if it has to wait a bit for someone to be actually available.
The world survived for centuries without the ability to immediately get a hold of everyone at a moment's notice.
Sucks if someone needs some urgent info from you, like a blood type or whatever for emergency contact reasons and they could have it, but you don't like to answer the phone.
Nobody was saying you have to always immediately answer your phone. Just that there's situations where a phone call is better than sending a text.
Can't speak to the 'or whatever' as there may be things I know that are truly urgently needed, but blood type isn't really an example of a phone type emergency.
Ambulances frequently don't even carry blood, and when they do, they usually have a small amount of O blood. The question of blood type doesn't even come into play. Similarly at the hospital, while they may prefer to match blood type, they will use O blood at least in the short term, with a blood typing test being a matter of a couple of minutes to get the information directly instead of relying on pulling up and using the emergency contact information. This is assuming their medical record doesn't just already have the information.
As said, I try to be available, but it's largely ruined by the volume of bullshit calls making it impossible to be at the beck and call of any random caller while also living a vaguely sane lifestyle. So I'll usually send to voicemail unless it's someone I actually recognize that I know will only call over an urgent matter.
I've had an emergency call to ask about blood type, since I was the emergency contact. I'm sure there's other urgent situations too where a call is needeed.
my phone hasn't made notification sounds in years except for some particular situations, and I turn notifications off for apps until I know I want them on
I use Tasker to make groups of people who can take me off mute when calling (Partner, parents, best friend) and everything else is controlled by timed DND and mute automations (slightly different for personal and work)
Sounds like you’ve trained your phone to only speak up when it really matters 😂 Honestly, that’s a smart move, constant pings are such a distraction. I kinda wish I had that level of discipline with my notifications.
Massive adoption of smart watches helps this quite a lot. 2 devices ringing or vibrating is quite annoying. People set silent on phone and feel messages on watches.
Honestly that’s one of the biggest reasons I have a watch - my phone has been on vibrate for years but I don’t always notice it, however I always notice the watch vibrate
I haven't been able to find this again, but there's a short film that was made in England in 1946 that perfectly nailed how cell phones were going to work. There was even a man in a grocery store calling his wife at home to find out what ingredient he needed to pick up. The only difference was scale: the man was using a walkie-talkie, which despite the movie images of an officer using a device about 1'x4"x4", in fact also required a ginormous and heavy backpack thing lugged around by some misbegotten private.
BTW a fun fact: the word "ginormous" (a portmanteau word combining "gigantic" and "enormous") dates to WWII or earlier. I'd always assumed it was valley-girl speak until I encountered it in a Battle of Britain memoir written by a pilot who was killed in 1942.
I momentarily (mis)read the cartoon's title as something like "When we all have pocket teleporters" and thought the first frame was some kind of use case for a 19th/20th century sci-fi pocket teleporter, where said device was activated allowing the person to run faster while chasing the train.
My eyes followed to the second frame and only then I realized the cartoon was about pocket telephones, not pocket teleporters, beeping while being inside the pocket.
A beeping pocket teleporter would be equally annoying, though: "No, I'm not interested in a monthly subscription fee of 42 bars of gold for faster and farther teleporting needs, shut up with your ads, Thomas Edison's Magic Porter Apparatus"
school needs to spend a couple lessons teaching you the notification settings on your phone, these days you can do quite advanced things without extra apps, like setting the phone to vibrate (except for specific people and apps) during specific calendar events, or only allowing specific notifications from an app.
84 Comments
halvar@lemy.lol · 155 pts · 340d
i just love it that they made like 20.000 of these and when one turned out to be correct it's just so correct it makes you resonate with a random dead guy from a hundred years ago
Eq0@literature.cafe · 39 pts · 340d
I always love small misconceptions about technology that didn’t exist yet. In this case: no chance of silencing or turning off the device. Cracks me up!
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 340d
No concept of voicemail.
If there were answering services, they were for rich people of just called secretaries.
SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 340d
I was honestly ready to whine about the timing and this not making sense.. but no, turns out my timeline, despite being based on books that were supposed to be well-researched, was way off. And indeed the first chatter about mobile phones was around 1908. Til.
Have some Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mobile_phones
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 122 pts · 340d
Reminder that Socrates was said to have hated books because they corrupted the youth, weakening students’ faculties by removing the need to memorise information.
Every single generation since records have existed thought the new tech was ruining us.
Now get off my fucking lawn.
Stillwater@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 340d
Ah but new tech always has been ruining us
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 340d
Those damn kids and their newfangled pointy rocks. Back in my day, if you needed your rock to do more damage, you just got a bigger one!
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 19 pts · 340d
Wait did Socrates really say that?
God he'd absolutely hate me. I can't memorize anything, but I can seemingly learn everything
echodot@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 340d
We also have a lot more knowledge than we used to. Socrates didn't have to remember about molecular metabolization pathways or the energy transition of a turbium atom, or what the arbitrary name has been given to a medium coffee at Starbucks.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 340d
Could socrates predict invention of encyclopedia?
Ancient philosphy vs some madlad going "Ah yes today I will write down EVERYTHING."
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 333d
cut to parchment with the word "EVERYTHING" written on it in a fancy font
JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 340d
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 340d
And that was young, fashionable people whinging about having to memorise things that weren’t written down.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 340d
While the concert and wedding are events where you should turn off your ringer, it's certainly true that phones can ring at inconvenient times. A big enough problem to outweigh the benefit of being able to check in, find people, call for help, etc. from nearly anywhere? Absolutely not, but it's still a pretty accurate prediction.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 335d
If anything reality is better off: many people do know various ways to keep their phones quiet but more importantly we use phones for much more than talking. Every time someone texts, so there is no ring, that might have been a call back then
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 2 pts · 340d
Now, let’s talk about meetings.
Τώρα, ας μιλήσουμε για τις συναντήσεις.
fading_person@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 339d
I don't think this is the point of the comic, but rather make some humorous speculation of a tech future.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 340d
Sure but AI will wreck us worse than all of them.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 340d
Completely unrealistic, nobody will keep there ringer on
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 60 pts · 340d
It's weird but at one point in the last 10 years, society just decided that everyone uses vibrate now.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 340d
Not boomers, they love the constant dings and obnoxious ringtones to be as loud as possible.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 340d
don't forget the type sounds
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space · 6 pts · 340d
Let’s be honest with this one. Most are probably just too lazy or inept feeling to figure out how to turn them off for themselves. The phone companies seem to have their software install with max volume and haptics turned on by default.
Sprinks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 340d
...and the call back ring tones. For about 5 years i hated calling one person in particular because id have to listen to Hey, Soul Sister every..fricken....time.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 340d
I would never call that person
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev · 4 pts · 340d
I'm not a boomer but do love when my wife calls and everyone gets to hear the ever-classic 'Helo Moto' ringtone.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 2 pts · 339d
When i was around 14, around the nokia 3210 times, we all made our own ringtones.we would download cheat sheets of music we liked and put it in and suddenly: friends theme song. One of my friend made a voice recording where he sang: "Telephone... Pick up. Telephone... Pick up". Even now this is the funniest ringtone i have ever heard, and i had it as my own ringtone until my phone died. Even now when i hear a phone i can only think: telephone.... Pick up!
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 4 pts · 339d
I don't get that at all. I assume it's partly some ADHD or autism or what do i know. I had a girlfriend who would unbuckle her seatbelt 5min before we arrived and the car would just beep louder and louder and whatever. It drove me insane. I know it's just a minor thing, but i never understood how you couldn't be bothered with that. Especially because it's very easy to not do that. I never got used to it, when she did it when i was driving, i would just stop and wait until she buckled up again.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 339d
My dad's ringtone is a motorcycle engine revving at max volume, and he never silences it. He also just lets it ring when he doesn't want to answer.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 340d
We decided that ringtone were bullshit exactly when we had the option to have any sound imaginable for free.
Before that...
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 340d
that works great if you keep your phone in your pocket. if you don't...
echodot@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 340d
Women in my experience point blank refused to keep their phones in their pocket and instead put it in the purse along with everything else so whenever it rings (assuming they even hear it in there) it's always a mad dash to get it out before the person on the other end dies of old age.
Eq0@literature.cafe · 31 pts · 340d
I’ll apologize first: Sorry, kind internet stranger, you walked right in one of my pet peeves. (Now I feel morally justified in starting my rant with a level of emotional involvement that is totally and admittedly unjustified)
WOMEN’S POCKETS ARE A F****ING JOKE! Have you ever tried putting anything more that the glimmering sparkle of a summer night in a woman pants pocket? It either falls right off or tries to stab the kidney once the poor girl sits down. Usually both.
Because pants need to be stupidly skinny and form fitting, not made for comfort or for carrying anything!
My toddler’s pockets (2 years old) are bigger than mine!
/end rant, feel free to ring me up for extra rants on the subject
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 340d
Yeah I was gonna say "what women have pockets"
Bysmuth@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 340d
I feel like i've become highly attuned to the sound of a phone and can hear it anywhere in a room. The disadvantage is of course a lingering stress whenever i get confused with a similar sound or someone elses phone
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 340d
old.people... always old people. The same people that would fucking call someone. I'm 43 yo and I nor anyone I know call anyone of it's not an emergency
protist@mander.xyz · 11 pts · 340d
I'm also 43, and I and many of my friends call each other all the time
stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 340d
33 and I've started calling people. It's nice to just chat with friends and family
teuniac_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 340d
I'm 30, same. It's also much faster to arrange something.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
I absolutely hate text messages. I refuse to spend hours of my time sending text messages back and forth to solve a problem that a 60 second phone call could have disposed of.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 340d
and I refuse to spend hours of my time listening to voicemails when I could have scanned a text message in 15 seconds
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 339d
This is why you actually answer the phone to prevent 300 voicemails. That's on you if that happens. And I have repeatedly found that a one or two line text message NEVER conveys the whole message because people do not know how to create a cognizant thought. So I can either spend hours texting back and forth to get the whole picture or you can call me directly, answer my pointed questions, and be done in 60 seconds or less.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 339d
I'm not going to answer the phone call that happens at an extremely inconvenient time just to have a three minute chat that could have been a 15 second text.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 339d
This is why I just turned off my voice mail entirely. If I see your missed call, I'll call back.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 340d
It really depends case by case.
If back and forth starts going, then it's time for a call.
However text first to establish:
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
Oh I would 100% exchange texts for 3 and a half days instead of just calling. So much energy to call someone
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 7 pts · 340d
And if they do call and it's an emergency they'll leave a message anyway
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 340d
They'll call twice.
Calling me twice in a row without good reason guarantees war, because I assume you're literally dying.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 340d
Hopefully it's not an actual emergency that requires immediate answer
jj4211@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 340d
If it's an actual emergency, call 911.
If it doesn't need 911, society needs to accept that people are sometimes just not immediately available and be accommodating.
I will answer my phone if one of a handful of people call me if at all possible, but sometimes it just isn't in the cards. It's convenient to take care of seemingly urgent matters that way, but it's not the end of the world if it has to wait a bit for someone to be actually available.
The world survived for centuries without the ability to immediately get a hold of everyone at a moment's notice.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 340d
Sucks if someone needs some urgent info from you, like a blood type or whatever for emergency contact reasons and they could have it, but you don't like to answer the phone.
Nobody was saying you have to always immediately answer your phone. Just that there's situations where a phone call is better than sending a text.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
Can't speak to the 'or whatever' as there may be things I know that are truly urgently needed, but blood type isn't really an example of a phone type emergency.
Ambulances frequently don't even carry blood, and when they do, they usually have a small amount of O blood. The question of blood type doesn't even come into play. Similarly at the hospital, while they may prefer to match blood type, they will use O blood at least in the short term, with a blood typing test being a matter of a couple of minutes to get the information directly instead of relying on pulling up and using the emergency contact information. This is assuming their medical record doesn't just already have the information.
As said, I try to be available, but it's largely ruined by the volume of bullshit calls making it impossible to be at the beck and call of any random caller while also living a vaguely sane lifestyle. So I'll usually send to voicemail unless it's someone I actually recognize that I know will only call over an urgent matter.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 339d
I've had an emergency call to ask about blood type, since I was the emergency contact. I'm sure there's other urgent situations too where a call is needeed.
JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 340d
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 340d
Ileftreddit@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 340d
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 340d
my phone hasn't made notification sounds in years except for some particular situations, and I turn notifications off for apps until I know I want them on
it's great
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 340d
I use Tasker to make groups of people who can take me off mute when calling (Partner, parents, best friend) and everything else is controlled by timed DND and mute automations (slightly different for personal and work)
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 339d
I gotta look into that, ty
Karryp_17@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 340d
Sounds like you’ve trained your phone to only speak up when it really matters 😂 Honestly, that’s a smart move, constant pings are such a distraction. I kinda wish I had that level of discipline with my notifications.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 4 pts · 339d
I don't even remember the last time my phone made a sound. Si ce i had a pager that could vibrate i was like: welp, that's it.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 340d
Massive adoption of smart watches helps this quite a lot. 2 devices ringing or vibrating is quite annoying. People set silent on phone and feel messages on watches.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 340d
Honestly that’s one of the biggest reasons I have a watch - my phone has been on vibrate for years but I don’t always notice it, however I always notice the watch vibrate
tux0r@feddit.org · 3 pts · 340d
I’m working on it.
rollerbang@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
I hate it... When you actually need a person you can't reach them. Is it really so hard to toggle DND? I really haven't got any issue with that.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 3 pts · 340d
Have you considered that they don't want to be reached
AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 340d
Just call twice in rapid succession, that usually overrides it
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
Been mine for at least a couple years now
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 340d
It's better to just leave the phone at home....
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 37 pts · 340d
There’s an Everett True energy about this
i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 340d
All that's missing is him just straight up punching the guy into next week.
tux0r@feddit.org · 6 pts · 340d
I've never heard of that guy. Mind to enlighten me?
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 340d
The star of some old comics, characterized by being a violent choleric who deals with annoying people. Check out !truecomics@midwest.social.
tux0r@feddit.org · 6 pts · 340d
Thank you!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 340d
ooo i didn't know he had his own comm. thanks!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 340d
This is fucking awesome, thank you
Taser@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 340d
Totally thought it was until I read your comment and went back to double-check 😅
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 340d
This assumes you are popular enough to be bothered with
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 339d
Scammers have enteted the
chatcall logfilcuk@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 339d
My (potential) marriage is safe!
No, wait...
PmMeFrogMemes@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 339d
Petition to bring back calling babies "mites"
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 339d
I still call one of my kids my little "wiggle worm", from when she hadn't even crawled yet. I'd sing her this old-timey lullaby:
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 3 pts · 339d
Does she always hold her breath and listen?
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 340d
I haven't been able to find this again, but there's a short film that was made in England in 1946 that perfectly nailed how cell phones were going to work. There was even a man in a grocery store calling his wife at home to find out what ingredient he needed to pick up. The only difference was scale: the man was using a walkie-talkie, which despite the movie images of an officer using a device about 1'x4"x4", in fact also required a ginormous and heavy backpack thing lugged around by some misbegotten private.
BTW a fun fact: the word "ginormous" (a portmanteau word combining "gigantic" and "enormous") dates to WWII or earlier. I'd always assumed it was valley-girl speak until I encountered it in a Battle of Britain memoir written by a pilot who was killed in 1942.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 339d
Featuring the svelte and portable Motorolla cellular model from 1988:
Which is an improvement from this beast:
dsilverz@calckey.world · 4 pts · 339d
@tux0r@feddit.org @lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
I momentarily (mis)read the cartoon's title as something like "When we all have pocket teleporters" and thought the first frame was some kind of use case for a 19th/20th century sci-fi pocket teleporter, where said device was activated allowing the person to run faster while chasing the train.
My eyes followed to the second frame and only then I realized the cartoon was about pocket telephones, not pocket teleporters, beeping while being inside the pocket.
A beeping pocket teleporter would be equally annoying, though: "No, I'm not interested in a monthly subscription fee of 42 bars of gold for faster and farther teleporting needs, shut up with your ads, Thomas Edison's Magic Porter Apparatus"
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 333d
school needs to spend a couple lessons teaching you the notification settings on your phone, these days you can do quite advanced things without extra apps, like setting the phone to vibrate (except for specific people and apps) during specific calendar events, or only allowing specific notifications from an app.