Here, too, the sheer ridiculousness of the regime once again obscures its criminal intentions.
Statements such as these are then completely ignored:
We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement, just common sense, maximum lethality and authority for warfighters.
This obviously means that all moral conventions, humanitarian principles, and international agreements are being thrown overboard—in other words, absolute ruthlessness, Israel-style.
This is the face of America today: a grotesque grimace of fascist malice.
This open statement that we're no longer concerned with adhering to Geneva Convention standards should have made these military leaders sick.
The contradiction that we're going to simultaneously hold all personnel to higher standards of grooming, fitness, etc while removing the obligation to adhere to any semblance of legal authority makes it crystal clear that cruelty is the point of all of this.
Don't worry, since many of the Geneva Conventions were in response to Canadian Military actions at war, if the orange turd sends troops for his 51st state bullshit, we'll come up with a whole new list of things for Geneva to add to the convention and his cronies can get some first hand experience on why those rules exist.
We're nice neighbours and allies, but don't become our enemy.
I mean that pretty much sums up MAGA and Trump's administration. "We're going to hold the groups of people we don't like to an impossible standard while the people we do like are immune to any consequences." Cause it's pretty obvious that Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump have no respect for soldiers other than their usefulness as pawns.
Geneva convention rules protect our troops just as much as they protect our enemy's troops. Openly suggesting that we disregard those rules actively puts our troops in danger.
I know they haven't actually said we are disregarding the rules, as of yet, but they certainly are hinting that's what they want. Other countries will take note, and issue orders accordingly.
Jesus Christ that’s grim and inhuman shit. “Stupid rules of engagement”?? Stupid things like reducing civilian casualties and not turning the populace against you? This is how empires fall.
For Hegseth, he’s horny to prove how tough he actually is since he has a chip on his shoulder after being outed as a “dangerous insider” before Sleepy Joe’s inauguration.
For Trump, he just wants to burn America down since we ruined his special secret time with little children by taking down Epstein and his feeble, ancient brain only knows narcissistic revenge. He doesn’t give a shit as long as we are as hurt as he was having his favorite thing taken away from him.
Notice how it’s not just “the worst people for the job”, it’s always “people with a chip on their shoulder about America”. It’s always the moronic shitbag crazies who can’t ever be wrong even when they clearly are, and now they’d fucking legislating it. They’re codifying “I say that I’m right and fuck you” into policy.
They want the kingdom all for themselves to manifest their false reality, and they’ll burn it all down if they don’t get their way.
"And if you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future, but you just feel nice and loose, OK, because we're all on the same team. And I was told that, sir, you won't hear -- you won't hear a murmur in the room. I said, we got to loosen these guys up a little bit. So you just have a good time."
I wonder how much this meeting cost the tax payers. It wasn’t free to fly all the generals to this location and put them up for however long it was required.
One of my local schools just up and disappeared in a puff of smoke. I couldn't make out the green numbers that were hanging in the air for awhile afterwards to see how much budget it got them back.
Look at the timing. This meeting took place the day before the shut down. These dumb saps aren't getting any travel vouchers. Hell they're not even getting paid this month!
So something about this I don’t get. Didn’t they relax the standards because they couldn’t get enough people for Cyber Security Command? Do they just think these people are gonna magically start working out?
They just adapted incel / Maga recruitment methods to try and reel in the tops of the world, for real? Those work on incel / Maga, because they're downtrodden and insecure, but arrogant, want not to be, but don't have the insight or the ego to permit self improvement.
People don't get to the top with a personal failings like that, being angry at the world, types, don't ever get to top jobs, they were talking to grownups, thinking their magical words will cause them a world wide army. Holy fk I can't decide if thier levels of God syndrome are hilarious, in the face of the level of danger this presents. I mean, they're not dangerous in the sense that no one would listen to them, other than the dickheads like them. But, damn!
I was kinda hoping when the orange titbag told them if they didn't like what was said they could leave, that they would all rise up and rush the stage to show them what real soldiers think of loudmouth pussies
They wouldn't dare risk their pensions or their cushy post retirement job at a military contractor corporation.
But don't worry. When and if this regime falls, they're going to write SO MANY books about patriotism and fighting the good fight and how they secretly hated having to mulch all those civilian protesters and how it's unfair to put them on trial for following orders.
I used to work for a software company that spent its time chasing military contracts. We had a whole corridor with offices for the retired colonels we had hired who never came into work. I had a friend in HR so I knew what everybody in the company made; the colonels all made in the neighborhood of $200,000 a year. Not a bad no-work gig at all, especially when that money was on top of their pensions. I can't imagine the kind of money the fucking generals and admirals pull.
Us programmers used to sneak into the colonels' offices to "work" -- which really meant "nap" -- confident that we would be undisturbed. I especially liked it because I didn't have to hold in my farts.
Wouldn’t that be great if I could have the faith in our military leaders to mock trump instead of saving their own positions and paychecks by bending the knee.
62 Comments
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 124 pts · 321d
Here, too, the sheer ridiculousness of the regime once again obscures its criminal intentions.
Statements such as these are then completely ignored:
Pete Hegseth Source
This obviously means that all moral conventions, humanitarian principles, and international agreements are being thrown overboard—in other words, absolute ruthlessness, Israel-style.
This is the face of America today: a grotesque grimace of fascist malice.
tryitout@infosec.pub · 49 pts · 321d
This open statement that we're no longer concerned with adhering to Geneva Convention standards should have made these military leaders sick.
The contradiction that we're going to simultaneously hold all personnel to higher standards of grooming, fitness, etc while removing the obligation to adhere to any semblance of legal authority makes it crystal clear that cruelty is the point of all of this.
Routhinator@startrek.website · 32 pts · 321d
Don't worry, since many of the Geneva Conventions were in response to Canadian Military actions at war, if the orange turd sends troops for his 51st state bullshit, we'll come up with a whole new list of things for Geneva to add to the convention and his cronies can get some first hand experience on why those rules exist.
We're nice neighbours and allies, but don't become our enemy.
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 321d
I think about half of the US wouldn't mind if you got a little pre-emptive with that
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 321d
Well, if they did, they wouldn't talk about it. I think they'll just say Soory afterward.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 321d
Ive already got some war crimes planned just in case. Keep those dog tags on, boys. Theyre gonna need it to identify your remains.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 321d
Step 1. Inform the 22me that they no longer have regulations except for Geneva.
Step 2. Look away and prepare the medical support for the enemy wounded.
InputZero@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 321d
I mean that pretty much sums up MAGA and Trump's administration. "We're going to hold the groups of people we don't like to an impossible standard while the people we do like are immune to any consequences." Cause it's pretty obvious that Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump have no respect for soldiers other than their usefulness as pawns.
oppy1984@lemdro.id · 12 pts · 321d
Geneva convention rules protect our troops just as much as they protect our enemy's troops. Openly suggesting that we disregard those rules actively puts our troops in danger.
I know they haven't actually said we are disregarding the rules, as of yet, but they certainly are hinting that's what they want. Other countries will take note, and issue orders accordingly.
EvilBit@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 321d
Jesus Christ that’s grim and inhuman shit. “Stupid rules of engagement”?? Stupid things like reducing civilian casualties and not turning the populace against you? This is how empires fall.
4am@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 321d
For Hegseth, he’s horny to prove how tough he actually is since he has a chip on his shoulder after being outed as a “dangerous insider” before Sleepy Joe’s inauguration.
For Trump, he just wants to burn America down since we ruined his special secret time with little children by taking down Epstein and his feeble, ancient brain only knows narcissistic revenge. He doesn’t give a shit as long as we are as hurt as he was having his favorite thing taken away from him.
Notice how it’s not just “the worst people for the job”, it’s always “people with a chip on their shoulder about America”. It’s always the moronic shitbag crazies who can’t ever be wrong even when they clearly are, and now they’d fucking legislating it. They’re codifying “I say that I’m right and fuck you” into policy.
They want the kingdom all for themselves to manifest their false reality, and they’ll burn it all down if they don’t get their way.
EvilBit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
Dibs on some of the ashes!
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 321d
It's working so well for Israel, everyone loves them now.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 321d
Hey Pete I’m an enemy of your country and I might even be plotting to take out JD Vance.
Come at me you fucking sausage. I’m going to bring Jihad against the whole of America. 😂
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 321d
I feel you.
boeman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 321d
The ol’ Inversion of Control
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 321d
Where's Fitz when you need him?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 321d
Exactly... I feel like I'm the only one who paid attention to what they actually said, rather than just mocking the spectacle.
He literally said that the US cities will be their "training ground".
Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 321d
And how in any sane way does he think any of that is 'common sense'?
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 322d
"And if you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future, but you just feel nice and loose, OK, because we're all on the same team. And I was told that, sir, you won't hear -- you won't hear a murmur in the room. I said, we got to loosen these guys up a little bit. So you just have a good time."
unclejeeves@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 322d
Too coherent
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 321d
It's word-for-word part of his opening remarks. Don't worry - it rapidly becomes more incoherent from there.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 4 pts · 321d
To take some of Trump's credit, he struggled a lot and it was a mess even if mildly coherent.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 321d
I don't remember all of it, but some of that is literally what he said.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 322d
I wonder how much this meeting cost the tax payers. It wasn’t free to fly all the generals to this location and put them up for however long it was required.
Mirshe@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 322d
Millions, probably at least 8 figures.
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 322d
So 0.00001% of the annual military budget…
Steve@startrek.website · 22 pts · 322d
How much is that in schools?
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 321d
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 321d
One of my local schools just up and disappeared in a puff of smoke. I couldn't make out the green numbers that were hanging in the air for awhile afterwards to see how much budget it got them back.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 321d
So what's that in golf holidays for Trump?
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 321d
Look at the timing. This meeting took place the day before the shut down. These dumb saps aren't getting any travel vouchers. Hell they're not even getting paid this month!
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 322d
I'd like to see the first line changed to "Everybody's calling them" because
The generals didn't get to be generals without knowing when to keep their mouths shut.
You don't have to be military to enjoy this crack. I'm definitely going to be part of that everybody.
And also
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 322d
And no I didn't say thank you
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 322d
So something about this I don’t get. Didn’t they relax the standards because they couldn’t get enough people for Cyber Security Command? Do they just think these people are gonna magically start working out?
Oh that’s right, they don’t think.
Revan343@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 322d
Cyber security is pansy shit, real men win wars with rifles /s
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 321d
I'm sorry, but... is this a Facebook meme? This is the oldest source I could find:
https://www.facebook.com/karl.j.martin/posts/would-very-much-like-to-believe-the-rumor-that-officers-attending-todays-hegseth/10231055132182749/
It's almost certainly not real.
I know it's not going to get taken down, but:
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 321d
I can't speak for anyone else, but it was pretty evident to me that this was a joke
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
I dunno, it’s presented like a news bite to me.
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 322d
Please tell me this is actually happening
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 322d
I haven't seen any confirmation. I think it's just a joke meme.
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 322d
:(
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 321d
They just adapted incel / Maga recruitment methods to try and reel in the tops of the world, for real? Those work on incel / Maga, because they're downtrodden and insecure, but arrogant, want not to be, but don't have the insight or the ego to permit self improvement.
People don't get to the top with a personal failings like that, being angry at the world, types, don't ever get to top jobs, they were talking to grownups, thinking their magical words will cause them a world wide army. Holy fk I can't decide if thier levels of God syndrome are hilarious, in the face of the level of danger this presents. I mean, they're not dangerous in the sense that no one would listen to them, other than the dickheads like them. But, damn!
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 321d
I was kinda hoping when the orange titbag told them if they didn't like what was said they could leave, that they would all rise up and rush the stage to show them what real soldiers think of loudmouth pussies
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 321d
They wouldn't dare risk their pensions or their cushy post retirement job at a military contractor corporation.
But don't worry. When and if this regime falls, they're going to write SO MANY books about patriotism and fighting the good fight and how they secretly hated having to mulch all those civilian protesters and how it's unfair to put them on trial for following orders.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 321d
I used to work for a software company that spent its time chasing military contracts. We had a whole corridor with offices for the retired colonels we had hired who never came into work. I had a friend in HR so I knew what everybody in the company made; the colonels all made in the neighborhood of $200,000 a year. Not a bad no-work gig at all, especially when that money was on top of their pensions. I can't imagine the kind of money the fucking generals and admirals pull.
Us programmers used to sneak into the colonels' offices to "work" -- which really meant "nap" -- confident that we would be undisturbed. I especially liked it because I didn't have to hold in my farts.
dumbass@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 322d
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 321d
They actually showed bits of both speeches on TV news around here (I'm not in the US) and these guys are like a clown version of the Nazis.
simplejack@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 322d
What Trump wants
https://youtu.be/ANYQdon914Y
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 322d
Wtf how do you even synchronize applause? Those top military leaders must spend hours of their days practicing clapping.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 321d
Did you watch the video? It wasn't synchronized at all, it was just normal (if overly enthusiastic) clapping.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 321d
I've watched this video half a dozen times now and slowed it down to .25 speed. That's some of the most synchronized clapping I've ever seen.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 321d
How to say you weren't on the drum line without saying anything about drums, haha
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 321d
Yeah they should definitely get those generals on the drum line. Those dumbasses are out there planning military strategies instead.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
I dunno, it doesn't look that way to me. Like, if they were trying to be synchronized, then they did a really bad job.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 321d
Watch North Korea, trump watches them alot
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 322d
Yeah, or maybe this?
https://media.tenor.com/iXWRFGidWj0AAAAM/first-order-stormtroopers.gif
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 322d
This is slightly encouraging.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 322d
Wouldn’t that be great if I could have the faith in our military leaders to mock trump instead of saving their own positions and paychecks by bending the knee.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 321d
No Fat Men & Little Boy Molester.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 321d
Good god, he looks like a freaking dunce in that photo. What an embarrassment
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
Nah, that's just an accurate physical description of the two.
metermatic26@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
This would’ve been hilarious, if they hadn’t started a horrible war…