Not at all. The only group I have ever seen that is as toxic as .ML was The Donald on Reddit. The Mods and users are literal propaganda machines and they all have alts and abuse the shit out of everyone who doesn't boot lick authoritarians.
I honestly believe they are no different than the Alt-right. Maybe it is one of those horse shoe things, but more likely they are just disingenuous conservatives.
more a horseshoe thing. Once someone gets so authoritarian, there's kinda' no point in even looking for differences. They're both interested in tasting boot, so fuck 'em both.
Id bet disingenuous conservatives from other cultures mixed in with useful idiot Americans.
Americans have a tendency to think the entire world is just McDonalds after McDonalds. There are millions of people on this earth that dont see things the way Americans do and the internet has no boarders.
nope, it would be center-right wing with a dash of "further right, but not maga right as a whole. is representative of america, ultra-left wing is a very small minority often with a younger population that isnt cognizant of history of "left leaning governments', decades of anti-communist propaganda see to that a left leaning party never has power.
I actually unlocked the ultimate grift: getting on the payroll for every foreign government all at once in return for my single digit posts per day on obscure internet forum for linux nerds.
Me, I'm not on anybody's payroll. But I'm trying to be. Once I build up my modlog enough as a freelancer, the plan is to print it out and mail it to the nearest Chinese embassy so I can finally quit my day job.
"Thanks for joining us for the Militant Lemmy 2025 awards show! It is going to be a great year for autocrats boys and girls. A special thanks to all our disenfranchised westerners, remember without your misguided support tyrants everywhere might feel unwelcome.
For our first award this year we are celebrating the most hypocritical poster. We are not just talking about any old conservative hypocrite here, we are talking about people so hypocritical they don't even remember what they actually agreed or disagreed with to begin with. People who are so contradictory they make doublethink seem like a fun meditative practice.
Alright, the votes are in. This is going to be a wild one folks! This years winner is none other than DIVA!!!"
See, this proves even if you are a lonely pusher of shitty propaganda you to can get recognized for your efforts. Congratulations, you really do deserve it.
You can just let people be wrong. It costs nothing.
They're obviously hardliners to the point of comedic effect but why do you care so much to argue?
Do you really expect someone who's so set in their opinions as to join .ml to read your comment and just go, "oh damn, guess I'll just stop believing in the things I believe in and believe in entirely different things"?
Do you genuinely think you're so convincing or do you just enjoy a good pissing contest?
Tankies are the worst of the worst. They ban people for nonsense, brigade people with alts, and are devoid of candor. I have talked with hundreds of people who have been mistreated and abused by them including myself.
What I say here has no bearing on anything and I am not stopping anyone from doing anything. I have no power, I am not a mod, and I don't have alts.
I was literally having a fun fantasy in the face of someone that is without a doubt disingenuous. It is taking it to a higher place beyond what is going on. Absurdity meets absurdity. I get you don't get it and that is okay.
I have no love for tankies. It just seemed like a lot of effort and mental energy went into that so I thought there may be some interesting lore there.
Imagine loving kindergarten and the "clean up" song so much that you post this meme repeatedly thinking it's some kind of burn, while not even realizing that this kind of thing completely serves authoritarianism.
That's kinda the problem though. Preferring it to be this way isn't a realistic thing. Capitalism will end in favour of something else eventually; whether it be in our lifetimes or 500 years from now. That's what Marxism explains.
Similarly, Marxism aims to achieve MORE democracy than we currently have. You're only aware of the Leninist variants. You don't actually know as much as you think.
Naw again I understand it I just prefer the way the government is now. I don't think marxism is the solution or it will happen in our lifetimes but I agree it might in the future
Lemmy.ml is the devil tempting good leftists to sin. They pretend to be leftists, but the admins are transphobic. It's a trap designed to trick leftists into supporting transphobia. That way they won't get to go to heaven.
I was made a moderator here after calling out cis shitters being transphobic in our trans comm; the only admin we have beef with is Nutomic, the rest have been fine.
Have you considered that you defending an instance that defends a transphobe means you are defending a transphobe? Because Jesus Christ (transmasculine, He/Him) would have considered that if He were in your position, and He wouldn't do it. It's a sin.
Well no, both of those things are supporting transphobes, the only difference is whether you're supporting Nutomic's transphobia or someone else's. The true alternative is to quit lemmy.ml and not be a transphobe supporter at all.
I guess your argument is the best thing to do is to slowly reform the space by working under a transphobe, like that's ever worked in history.
is your actual position that trans people should give transphobes free reign in any and every space they want, because to contest that would be actually supporting them?
My actual position is that Dessalines should tell Nutomic to either stop being a transphobe or get lost. And since Dessalines won't do either, lemmy.ml is a lost cause and should be defederated by every trans-respecting instance until it's stuck in its own little transphobic bubble with lemmygrad and hexbear. The rest of us get on with our lives and slowly move over to Piefed like Ada is doing with her community. Eventually lemmy.ml is about as influential as Truth Social or Raddle or Digg and Nutomic dies at the ripe old age of 90, having learned nothing and lost all relevance. In the intervening decades a worldwide communist revolution has destroyed capitalism, so Nutomic is entitled to free healthcare in his battle with cancer/parkinsons/dementia, because I support liberty and equality for all, even wankers.
Jesus Christ is a fictional character and the logical end conclusion of your points is:
"Transphobes decide where everyone else can go. First we wait to see where transphobes go, and then we stay away from those places, because we want the transphobes to have free ownership of whatever they choose and not be bothered by anyone"
Nutomic is one of the two lead developers and owners of lemmy.ml. If using and defending a platform owned by a transphobe is brave resistance, why don't you go to Truth Social or Xitter instead? It would save us having to hear your silly arguments.
Every time I see an anti-.ml meme I wonder, why are people so worried about people seeing .ml content? If they're jerks, wouldn't you want people to stumble into .ml and find out?
Roughly in about the timeframe you would remove the pointy tree branch from prostate that's making you such a condescending cunt. 😢 sorry if I don't hold my breath
My conspiracy is that people are trying to ramp up enough of a campaign to defederate from .ml, not knowing it's history on Lemmy and how most .ml users are actually quite chill and actually genuine people once you get to know them. I mean Jesus Christ guys, .ml users arent all bots.
Certain people just like echo chambers and can't see the value of opposing beliefs or arguments, no matter the level of sense that those may or not make.
.ml is just the latest designated "tankie" instance. So far it's the third one. Once .world defederates from .ml, the same people who currently hate .ml will designate another "tankie" instance to hate.
This guide is wrote up for those who have a hard time banning .ml and constantly removed about being able to see our content. It could be used to ban .world if you want i guess.
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click "Settings".
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says "Blocks".
Here you will see "Block user" "Block community" and "Block instance". Click the down arrow below "Block instance".
This will open up a search bar. Type "lemmy.ml" and click it after it shows up.
That's it! You've blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don't need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren't done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under "Block user". Now type "UltraGiGaGigantic" Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
That's not enough for the centrists. They don't want anyone to be allowed to be exposed to any idea to their left. Under any circumstances.
The amount of effort it seems people who like to call themselves leftists but aren't remotely interested in any practical means of getting there are astonishing.
I don't think they ever make good faith arguments and spend 100% of their time online complaining about the practical leftists, doing things like calling them centerists for realizing their 1 day plans for revolution aren't actually ever coming to fruition, or pointing out that their rhetoric, has, and continues to harm people by pulling power from the practical and pragmatic to the whimsical nonexistent nonsense they call solutions to problems but are actually just dream goals.
Somehow, no matter the damage they cause, they double down on pretending the people who aren't in dream land but have the closslest to their goals as them, are the real problem worth complaining about and not the people setting things on fire.
I have to feel like these people are Jill Stien esque psyops sent to derail leftist ideas from ever actually seeing the light of day.
When it comes to doing the right thing for the American people, the useless centrists you insist on calling "practical leftists" do nothing and call it incrementalism.
When it comes to selling weapons for genocide, they can't do it fast enough and will fight to keep doing it no matter what it costs the American people.
The country has slid to the right for decades and "practical" do-nothing-but-genocide centrists are enthusiastically complicit.
You are clearly trying to strawman me again, which seems like your go to move here.
The DNC is currently a center right organization.
Practical leftists support them because they understand that in the American political system it is impossible to make another party, so the only way to avoid what we have here is to support the democrats and change them with local politics and primaries.
The practical leftists aren't foolish enough to believe that the democrats losing will magically move them left, as what we've seen is instead, they're happy to continue being "at least we aren't republicans"
Your attempt to call the centrrists do nothing but genocide is an astoundingly ignorant take that shows you truly don't take politics seriously, as you only go based on vibes and not policy decisions and more than that do not understand how little can be done in a permanent fashion when voters let in the other party every 4 to 8 years and you have no usable senate super majority.
You have yet to say anything that wasn't repeating your strawman like a broken record. Like your politics don't have any nuance to them at all or aren't your honest opinions but just something you where to troll people who are actually angry with the state of USA politics.
Your reply comes form there but will probably be the last post I see from there because I'm gonna go ahead and block the instance. Unless that still lets replies come through (fine with me, main feed is more my focus)
Interesting way of reasoning: "They are bad because they block stuff they don't want to read, so I block them because what they do is stuff I don't want to read."
Shouldn't you be blocking yourself if you follow that way of reasoning?
People designated .ml as a tankie instance for very good reason: the admins of .ml have repeatedly shown to be pro-authoritarian.
For years now I've seen incessant gaslighting from tankies pretending that "tankie" is some catch-all term baselessly thrown around like "woke". However, I've pretty much exclusively seen the term "tankie" used to describe people who support authoritarian regimes/dictatorships.
An 'anarchist' instance which claims to oppose genocide, yet allows genocide denial if it's painted red, and where the admins deny UN verified sexual assault.
I don't support authoritarian regimes, but I get called a tankie plenty by centrists who hate that I don't support the authoritarian regime that their wing of the party sold weapons to.
"Tankie" is just something the genocide wing calls people who disagree with their only policy.
LOL. Your main instance — lemmy.blahaj.zone —has a blanket ban on all Marxist Leninists, regardless of whether they are “tankie” or not. That is the most authoritarian thing I have seen on Lemmy so far and it’s from a self-proclaimed anarchist instance. The hypocrisy is hilarious. Anarkiddies are so unserious.
In my original comment, I was talking about the term "tankie", which is a term we're seeing used a lot on Lemmy (a social media) to refer to people who support authoritarian governments (of countries, such as Russia and China).
In my reply to you, I meant to say that the effects of a Lemmy instance being "authoritarian" aren't at all as harmful to its users as an authoritarian country is to its residents, since it's easy to change instances but its not generally easy (and sometimes not reasonably possible) to change countries.
By any leftist conception, capitalist nations are undeniably authoritarian, yet you never see self described "leftist" who praise welfare capitalist states like the Scandinavian countries getting called a tankie. Clearly the term is not "used to describe people who support authoritarian regimes/dictatorships".
Probably good to warn people that .ml isn't representative of the fediverse at large, they're just very loud.
If you were introducing a new friend to America but for some reason, knew their flight was landing in a MAGA convention, would you not warn them so they didn't immediately turn around and go home?
During the Reddit exodus, there were lots of complaints about left wing extremism. Most of them were landing on ml, grad or hexbear. This isn't a good thing in the long run, so the bad press is necessary; otherwise this place risks being branded as "tankie HQ" before we can get some real traffic here.
No one "worries" about seeing it. It's that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you'll eventually be hit with "capitalism causes all problems in the universe" or the rest of their standard "I'm 19 and this is deep" tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It's exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it's just of a constant eye-roll when "I'm an independent thinker! Here's the same thing we all say!" happens.
You clearly haven't engaged with anything, and lol @ "independent thinker" from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you're doing
Anarcho communism...anarchosyndicalism...Christ I wanna take all these obfuscations, crumple them into a ball of just plain anarchy, and burn it. No offense of course!
As a side note, I've only done very little Wikipedia level reading on anarchocommunism, and as much as I also believe people help each other willingly, I've yet to hear a good defence on how it would be possible with the massive populations we have now, as opposed to pre-history.
It's all well and good that there are federated groups, with free association, but this is fundamentally ignoring that not all regions are equally blessed in resources.
If you have money, well then you need a centralised or decentralised way of miniting the money.
If you don't have money, well, I don't think it's much of a stretch to think that people will want to take care more of the people immediately around them, rather than people on the other side of the world, and since we're not getting together on large scales to make binding decisions, then there's no way to guarantee that everyone has a fair share.
I'm not saying that more decentralised government wouldn't work, but I do remain thoroughly unconvinced that free association of small groups across the entire world, would lead to much equity at all.
And as much as we may dream, there WILL be dickheads ruining it for the rest of us. Humans are nice, but humans can also be awful. Pretending otherwise is foolish and doomed to failure.
I'm a socialist, and am very keen to hear your thoughts :)
I don't usually use forums or Reddit, I usually just post comments on Ancap blogs like Molyneux or Cantwell's blog, but they didn't seem appropriate places to post my story. So here goes, I just wanted to share this with all of you.
Nov 3 I flew to Europe for a Eurotrip type tour. Not a guide or packaged deal, just going around by myself. I paid for half of the trip with the wages I earned over the last two years, my dad paid for the other half. I am 19, I guess that is normal starting college and all. (Before that I worked for my dad's company part time, so I guess you could say he paid for all of it, lol).
I did France and then Italy and then Greece next. I am an Ancap so I wanted to see anarchists in these places. Yes, I know they are different kinds of "anarchists" and not really full anarchists like us. I went to an anarchist book store in Italy and it had a lot of English books, but no Rothbard or Ancap. Like I said, I expected that, not a surprise.
I went to Greece, which everyone knows is famous for its revolutionary anarchism, its economic crisis and everything going on right now. Here I found directions for a local anarchist center. I went and didn't see anybody, but it was covered in graffiti, mostly in Greek so I couldn't read it. Whatever, I started taking pictures. Then some people came out and confronted me.
This should have been my first warning sign something was not right, because photography is not a crime. They were not violent, but they were not friendly, like asking who I was, what I wanted. They all spoke good English actually. Not uncommon in Greece. I said I was a tourist and an anarchist and I just wanted to take pictures. Then they got friendly and told me I should have asked first (but pictures are no NAP violation so I don't know why, but I didn't say anything) and they invited me inside.
We hung out for a while and smoked hash (there is no good dank in Europe as you might find out like in Cali, everyone smokes hash with tobacco which isn't as cool as it sounds). We started talking about politics and anarchism. I was trying to talk about the state, they were like yeah no doubt the state was bad. But they wanted to talk about capitalism, capitalism this and that. This is when we started to get into a debate.
I told them that what they called capitalism is different from the free market. They said capitalism is free markets. And I said I agreed. That is what I am saying. Real capitalism is free markets. And they said yes, that is what we are trying to get rid of. And I said no, but we don't even have that right now. We need more free markets. And everyone at the same time was like "nooo" we are anarchists, we are against capitalism. Anarchists oppose capitalism.
And I said but not anarcho-capitalists. Anarcho-capitalists are the anarchists who support capitalism. I had a fanny pack (yeah, lame I know) for my camera and in that I had this yellow and black bowtie (also super lame, it was a joke but I wasnt wearing it). And I said look, these are the Ancap colors, yellow and black, like versus the communist red and black. Well, these guys had a lot of red and black in the building already so I thought they would get it.
I think that is when it started to get a really bad vibe, really tense in the air. The free market thing was funny, we disagreed but I think they thought I was just confused. Everyone was uncomfortable now. Then someone said markets wont work with democracy. And I said exactly, that's it, democracy is against anarchism. And they kind of agreed, and said yes, we don't have real democracy, just governments, and we needed more democracy. I said no, we need less democracy, democracy is the enemy. And we need to end democracy to have anarchy. Then they were all like "noooo" again. You know that thing people do in groups when everyone all says "nooo" or expresses some disapproval at the same time.
And one of them said "but we do want to stop democracy" and then they kind of spoke back and forth in Greek. I didn't really understand it. And they asked me what I meant.
So I said okay, I had the floor, I was going to tell them about ancapism. And I tried to explain to them some Rothbard and Hoppe. I said the natural order in anarchy is that the best rise to the top, the market picks who is the best. They compete and are peaceful. They said what do we want instead of anarchy. I said we want private owners to own their own land and businesses, and to employ people. They said that is what we have now. I said no, it would be even better. One of the guys said it was like feudalism. And I said it is not feudalism.
Eventually one of the guys spoke up and I thought he was Greek, but he spoke English perfectly so he may have not been. He said he knew what anarcho-capitalism was and that we were basically fascists. He asked me if I thought everything should be private. And I said yes. And he asked me if I thought people were unequal. And I told him yes. And that not everyone would have equal rights. I said everyone has the right to own property and not be done aggression against. But that not everyone had to be treated equally by the owners. He said what about immigrants and racism. And I said that would not happen in a free market, but yes property owners could be racist if they wanted to. They had to respect property.
Then he called me a fascist again, and someone else said I was a fascist. And then they basically all started shouting fascist at me, and one of them grabbed me by the wrists. They pulled me out the door, it was up three floors, and basically drug me down the stairs on my back. It hurt really bad and I remember yelling "you're breaking the NAP" and things like that. "Stop initiating force against me." Then they kicked me around on the ground in the hallway, before they took my camera and threw me outside. I was crying and stuff, I just sat there. I was in shock because it was so sudden. Looking back there were warning signs though.
I think they felt bad for me and gave the camera back, but when I looked later they stole the memory card with all of my Greek photos.
So they initiated force and theft. They broke the NAP. I knew the left anarchists were not real anarchists, but I never knew they would do something that bad.
I wasnt seriously hurt, just kicked around a little, lots of bruises and little cuts. I am fine guys so don't worry. Just needed to share.
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I stopped reading here. Molyneux is an open white supremacist; Cantwell is more well-known as "the Crying Nazi"
Anyone consuming their content regularly and posting to these blogs shares much more ideologically with the Third Reich than they do with any notion of tolerant diverse civil society.
I'm gonna be honest, kicking the shit out of a nerd because you don't agree with his words is not as cool as you seem to think.
Sure he was "wrong," but did anyone try "please leave, we no longer wish to discuss these matters with you" before jumping to initiating violence? Multiple attackers no less (which would meet the threshold of deadly force in most states, luckily for them not Greece).
Back in my day children were taught to use their words, but I guess immature adults that are incapable of doing so still have to bully people physically, sucks to suck I guess, get eloquent losers.
Sure, then again tankies suck but I don't think people should initiate violence against them for their words, I'll just argue or cut comtact. Guess that's what makes me better than you.
Ahhh... lemmy.ml; I should have known. An information bubble.
Yes it feels good an cathartic to hate on people whose ideas are perverse. Let the hate flow through you all you like; it won't turn you into one of the Good Guys.
Yes, Nazi ideology needs to be annealed, expunged, eliminated from the world in the same way that, say, chattel slavery (laregly) has been.
Yes, Nazi ideology needs to be annealed, expunged, eliminated from the world in the same way that, say, chattel slavery (laregly) has been.
what does annealed mean in this usage? I don't get the metaphor you're going for because the literal reading to me says you're saying that it must tempered/softened. I don't think that's an appropriate response to Nazis, it's a very soft connotation.
Grow up
making fun of libertarians really struck a nerve huh
Doesn't that mean you want to forcibly cease people's property at gun point and shoot them if they try to stop you? That sounds pretty fucking tankie to me.
Defeat of Tsarist absolutism, defeat of Nazism, universal healthcare and free education to the highest level, lowest inequality rates in the history of the region, doubling of life expectancy in the span of 30 years, guaranteed housing and abolition of homelessness, abolition of unemployment, respect and promotion of local languages and cultures to an until-then unseen degree (compare the evolution of Occitan speakers to that of Uzbek speakers), representation of women in institutions and having more female engineers by the 1960s than the rest of the world combined, urban planning based on pedestrians and public transit, support of anti-imperialist struggles all over the global south, unparalleled levels of worker unionization... All of this saved a hundred million lives in the USSR alone.
I do call all of this much more successful than any other system we've had. There were mistakes, as in any real political project, but actually winning the class war is one of the biggest markers of success.
It’s not as bad as it’s made out to be, but there are mods there that are the “whitest of knights” for authoritarians, despots, and fascists while pretending that it’s not the polar opposite of leftism.
it's where all the tankies (supposed leftists who don't understand that there's no existing state that works for the good of its people) hang out. tbh I have no issues with the non political .ml users
People see what they want to see? I've seen content I don't agree with on several instances but the main reason I've got my main on lemmy.ml over Beehaw is because it annoys me greatly that there's so often posts I don't see that are relevant to me or just communities that seem accessible but inactive but are actually blocked without the interface saying so. This spuriously makes it seems as if a community is dead.
To avoid ambiguity: Trump is a sentient lump of metastatic cancer and many right leaning people are limp-dick insecure ignorant assholes.
I blocked the comm (as I do any that ban me) but this should be the link to it.
It started off in a completely unrelated discussion, where someone recognized my username and accused me of "supporting genocide of Uighurs," which is false. I don't think anyone should start genociding them or anyone else, and have never said anything like that. What I have said before is that I don't believe claims without evidence, even if following proper due diligence in investigating claims regarding genocide cause people to baselessly scream that I "support genocide."
So a mod responded by doing what libs do, typing it into Google and picking a handful of headlines that sounded like they support their case and posting them without reading. At that point, I simply asked the mod how many times the name Adrian Zenz was mentioned in his links and whether he considered him a reliable source or not. In lieu of responding, he banned me.
The answer was that his name was referenced 18 times. All of the sources I was provided with depended on this one witness's testimony, and I've cross-examined more credible parrots.
Like, I didn't even come to that thread to discuss it, nor did I comment on whether the claims were true or not. In response to someone who just had it out for me and was accusing me of bullshit, I defended my position saying I don't believe claims without evidence and haven't seen credible evidence.
Frankly, I think the mod (Jordunlund, I believe) realized they couldn't give a rational response so they banned me instead. Tbh, it's a ban I wear with pride. A perfect demonstration of liberal anti-intellectualism, of how they're actively hostile to fact-checking and rationality, perhaps 10% less so than chuds are. No one who repeats the claims in question ever actually bothered to trace the sources to see whether they're backed by anything, and immediately shut down anyone who does.
Don't need a link. Uighur "genocide" 99% cited is Zenz, founder of Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, a U.S. "communism bad mkay?" think tank. Mostly propagated by BBC, fuelled by the crumbling and sore Brit empire.
Figure he inflated numbers cuz he’s super capitalist? Citations could make sense if he’s the expert, saw he lived in China, but anyway curious your idea of his angle (ideology or money)
Dude’s a feather ruffler!:
Zenz has been the target of a pro-Beijing disinformation campaign, according to U.S.-based cybersecurity firm Mandiant.
As a result of his work on Xinjiang, Zenz has become a target for coordinated disinformation attacks from pro-Beijing and Chinese state-run media as well as other state-affiliated entities.
-Wiki (he wasn’t linked on the foundation page, nor mentioned, he founded or is director or both?)
Point 2: I get ya. Had me confused. Took me a sec.
Was drawing historical parallel. Note word “unpopular” in particular.
Kinda “don’t forget Hitler had supporters”, ya? If I hadn’t clicked that paraphrase woulda left me with opposite impression, would note when paraphrasing pls
Also IDK if credible cuz read one Wiki page (JK read 15% of it)
I like it there. The people are nice and welcoming and the beaches are phenomenal. The pandemic absolutely rocked the country. I came back after the pandemic and there were rolling blackouts, not enough protein, even more limits on food options.
They had a big revolt and protests against the gov over the way they handled the pandemic (see articles on Wikipedia for more context). I explained this revolt as told to me by my bus driver. That got me banned from Lemmy.ml (in a post asking what’s going on with Cuba).
Even in this thread if you see some of the replies here, there are lunatics claiming everything I said is fake and that I have ulterior motives. I’m shocked lol. I’m just a dude from Canada who went to Cuba a couple times on holiday.
Last time I was there - hot, lacking proteins, rolling blackouts, and the bus follows its own schedule 😆 The convertible taxi drivers are cool and they’ve got these old ass 50s cars with modern stereo systems spliced in. I wish I had brought my bike to ride the coastlines. They’ve got some excellent roads right on the coast.
Do you still maybe have a link to the post somewhere? I'm curious how's Cuba like, I was wondering if I should maybe go for a trip there or if it's a bad time.
My post was removed unfortunately but if you see my other comments in this thread I go over it a bit. The last time I was there it was last year so things could have changed.
If you’re going to a resort, expect to have few food options. You won’t go hungry but depending on all sorts of factors, you might only get eggs at the breakfast buffet once a week. It’s expected to tip the staff with a few USD. You can go into Havana or Varadero and go sightseeing and explore. Havana is better for this. Varadero is pretty touristy but still very nice. The restaurants in the city have much better food (I even had fried chicken!) but don’t drink anything with ice. The water isn’t filtered and you’ll probably get mild runs for a day. Wasn’t even that bad but was not a super comfortable day haha.
If you’re looking for a very cheap sunny beach vacation spot and don’t mind the limited food options, it’s great. Expect to only see Russian and Quebec tourists. You may stumble upon the odd Australian or British person but it’s like 60% French Canadians that go there, 30% Russians, and 10% other countries.
You’ll find no Americans there (since it’s illegal for them).
I got banned there for linking readsettlers.org and posting a video critical of Ukraine. Then for calling out the mod who banned me
because he said "he vets everything before a ban" even though he clearly hadn't in my case.
I got banned from feddit.org for calling out Genocidesmany's role in the palestinian genocides
Just yesterday I caught a ban on lefty memes for calling the azov brigade nazis.
Which part? The video that talks about Ukrainian politics that are easily independently corroborated or the military brigade with a Wolfsangel as it's symbol being nazi? Which one is the disinformation?
Lemmy.world communities will ban for pushing back against the western narrative, and pointing out their struggles are due to illegal sanctions, and not any failures of communism. Lemmy.ml communities won’t tolerate the willful ignorance.
I mean if the experience is same as the propaganda says then someone might think at least that part of the proparanda might be true. It doesn't have to be all lies, best proparanda is one where you don't have to lie
The only parts of US propaganda about Cuba that are even partially true are also the direct result of the US interfering with Cuba's ability to trade with other countries freely
I got banned for reporting a Gaza Genocide denier. I was told that Gaza genocide denial is exempt from the normal rules and thus by reporting it I was being uncivil.
I also got a ban for "misinformation" for saying Kamala Harris supported Israel.
You have physically been to a website? And you call me delusional? I was talking about lemmy.world, but we could always talk about Cuba as I've been there too.
Edit: I don't think I will actually bother with this. May your understanding of the world surpass your understanding of context. Good bye.
When I bought cigars factory made, smuggled out and sold in shacks in Havanna I doubt it was part of the staged tour - Considering the staged tour was in the factory itself and we were told it was strickly forbidden to buy cigars straight from the factory workers. So we became friendly with them instead and met up after they finished their shift and went to their home shack where we had dinner together, dealt Cohibas and Romeo y Julieta and talked about how life in Cuba was.
But why ask? Have I even said anything about Cuba in this thread beyond that I've been there too? Perhaps you're just an idiot?
The meme isn't about lemmy.world. World has a shit ton of issues, including shitty admin and moderator behaviour, sure, but that's not relevant to this meme.
This comment section is solid gold. You'll be able to come back and harvest new posts any time you want until they lock it, if they don't it's gonna go for days and just pick up steam.
I've made it 5 years without catching a ban from anywhere except some community on another instance for allegedly being anti-trans, but idk how they got that since I'm pro-trans
Well, China is a “beacon of prosperity” by any objective measure. I’ve not seen anyone there make the other claims. Though they do debunk a lot of the anti-Russia and anti-China propaganda, they back it up with facts.
No, freedom of press is not a measure of prosperity. And I don’t know many western countries that are in a position to point fingers at this point, considering how many journalists they’ve helped kill when they covered a genocide.
It's a beacon of prosperity when there are anti suicide nets at foxcon? Or like the 996? Run by a dictator, also committing genocide isn't very prosperous. My interactions have been " if it's western propaganda it's entirely false, but Chinese or Russian propaganda is entirely true"
800 million people out of poverty is a stretch but if you wanted to make that claim, it's because the west spent so much money to get goods from China. And the ethnic cleansing of the Uyghurs
The UN did not find genocide only human rights abuses at best. You can go to China, you can go to a mosque and talk to Uyghurs there.
Meanwhile the west is funding a real genocide in Gaza. You can't go there to film the atrocities being committed and brave people still try. Israel has killed more journalists in their genocide than ww2
If its a beacon of prosperity, why are there so many people leaving? Why is there a consensus amongst the most of the Chinese Diaspora that the west is better?
My parents both grew up in poverty in rural villages, the Hukou system prevented people from leaving Taishan to seek better income, until Deng Xiaoping's Opening Up and Reforms. Even then, jobs have much longer hours and minimal break time. I never really got to see my parents much, they just left my brother and I at home, just the two of us alone, so we end up fighting a lot. That was what "child care" was. At least until I was even old enough to be enrolled in pre-school and primary school.
Because I was the 2nd child, I didn't get legal recognition of my existence until my parent paid the government's demand of a large payment (aka: a "fine) for not having a government permission slip for childbirth, which is like wtf, why is that the government's bussiness?!?
And because we didn't have Hukou in Guangzhou, they didn't let us be in public schools, my parents had to pay for those privately run "school" which have a lower quality of education.
When my family (legally) immigrated to the US, at first, the work wasn't that much better, but eventually they managed to save up and buy a house, and eventually found better income, much better than any of the work they could find in China.
Of course, western countries has its own problems, such as xenophobia and racism, but for the most part, for most people, including many of my parents friends and relative who left China, life is generally better abroad compared to staying in China.
Depending on your circumstances of course, if you are a scientist, maybe its would be best for you to stay, but most of us aren't scientists, don't have much opportunity for income in China.
Compare for instance homelessness in china and the west. Homeownership. Access to healthcare, higher education, public transportation etc. Why do you think it's not a beacon of prosperity?
China doesn't have better healthcare than the US, their system is essentailly Obamacare. I've asked my aunts in China about it.
Homeownership? I mean that's just white westerners mismanaging their money. Literally I heard of white dudes be spending their entire paycheck in bars and gambling, while still having unpaid bills. Look at the percentage of Asian Americans owning homes compared to non-Asians Americans, maybe its not a "China vs West" thing, but just Asian people are more responsible with money, I mean, we literally live in the same country as y'all, and as a matter of fact, we even face more discrimination and prejudice, yet somehow, Asian people have higher home ownership. No offense, and not to victim blame, but what are y'all doing? I mean... My family didn't come from a rich background either, we grew up in poverty.
High education? I mean, depends. I had a Hukou in Taishan (rural) and was denied access to Guangzhou's (urban) public schools. A permanent 2nd class resident basically. Even the US (prior to 2025, at least) had allowed undocumented immigrants to go to public school, yet China denied their own citizens education if they dare to move to another location even within the country. If we hadn't moved abroad, we have to eventually go to highschool in Taishan, which has a much lower quality of education than Urban areas.
Public transportation... well you got that part right, I'll ackowledge that. I remember Guangzhou's metro being way more modern and cleaner than the US, and I loved the platform safety door protecting people from falling. But that doesn't exactly matter that much when the job market is fucked. And Hukou system is fucking stupid.
The only way for China to be a "beacon of prosperity" for you is if you have some skills like being a scientist or something like that, or just born into wealth. Otherwise, its not a great place for average people.
Without elections you get to have kings and emperors. Unless you go full on direct democracy which actually is becoming more feasible thanks to the Internet I guess?
If you were classically educated, you'd know the meme is about Sortition vs Elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition). The idea is that you can't have democracy when you have to vote for your representative, because rich families will manipulate the election process. The better solution to pick your Senate would be to randomly select group representatives and have them cooperate.
And that was what Greek philosophers like Aristotle thought ~2300 years ago. Actually all sources we have suggest that Greeks from that era though that elections are undemocratic, and only sortition can provide true democracy.
Seems to be true today when we vote, we pick between turds, and nothing changes for the better. <- and that's what meme is about
Side note: Carlin was right, you get educated only enough to be able to work for your masters.
How many people looking at that meme even knew about ancient Greeks shitting on elections in favour of sortition and went there, instead of thinking "elections bad? You must want to have a king, you authoritarian swine"
Reddit and other non-free social media is the result of capitalism, have you considered similar negative effects would occur if the opposite world view was in power?
Reddit is part of the culture war. Lemmy.ml is part of the culture war. Lemmy.world is part of the culture war. Everything is part of the culture war.
I think the strength of a federated social media is that it's easy to change instance and infighting is a way to have this discussion and come to conclusions. You wouldn't convince people to leave reddit by posting on lemmy and you wouldn't turn a tankie into an anarchosyndicalist but you might reach people unaware about what instance they landed on or raise awareness about how to interact with communities and users on .ml. Why have a federated network anyway when you refuse to engage with the concept of federation?
You're probably talking about Gulags. GULAG was the prison system of the USSS, with its primary intent being reform of criminals. The vast majority of GULAG prisoners weren't political, as has transpired from modern historiography and analysis of the Soviet Archives. The only moment of history in which the GULAG system had a high mortality, was during the famine caused by Nazi invasion of the USSR, invasion in which 25 million Soviet lives were extinguished in the struggle against fascism. Before, and after the invasion, mortality rates went down to being much lower.
Talking of the GULAG system as of concentration camps just shows that you have done no research on the topic, which is shameful as a leftist. Socialism must be well-informed and materialist, not vibes-based. There is criticism that can be made of socialism, but it has to be grounded on reality if we want it to be effective, not grounded on CIA propaganda.
Lol@ following up your feigned outrage at trivializing tragedy with a flippant request for your political opponents to die in concentration camps, you've discredited yourself better than I could have ever hoped to
If it's mine in any meaningful way then you'll be put in a reeducation camp, you're clearly not ideologically committed/coherent enough to justify execution, and I think you could still contribute to society and lead a decent quality life once you've got your head on straight
By defeating Tsarism, Nazism and doubling life expectancy, Bolsheviks actually saved tens of millions of leftist lives. In the same sense that you probably (hopefully) support Palestine even if right now they're not very socially progressive regarding leftism, LGBT and women's rights, you may understand why a state under the threat of Nazism invading went through serious disturbances.
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ekZepp@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 293d
A snake, a cat, a living toxic ball full of venom ...and a puffer fish.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 291d
the rattlesnake is also venomous,
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 293d
I am American and say .ml is the perfect representation of the American population.
Is it sarcasm?
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
Not at all. The only group I have ever seen that is as toxic as .ML was The Donald on Reddit. The Mods and users are literal propaganda machines and they all have alts and abuse the shit out of everyone who doesn't boot lick authoritarians.
I honestly believe they are no different than the Alt-right. Maybe it is one of those horse shoe things, but more likely they are just disingenuous conservatives.
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 1 pts · 290d
more a horseshoe thing. Once someone gets so authoritarian, there's kinda' no point in even looking for differences. They're both interested in tasting boot, so fuck 'em both.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 292d
Id bet disingenuous conservatives from other cultures mixed in with useful idiot Americans.
Americans have a tendency to think the entire world is just McDonalds after McDonalds. There are millions of people on this earth that dont see things the way Americans do and the internet has no boarders.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 291d
nope, it would be center-right wing with a dash of "further right, but not maga right as a whole. is representative of america, ultra-left wing is a very small minority often with a younger population that isnt cognizant of history of "left leaning governments', decades of anti-communist propaganda see to that a left leaning party never has power.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 58 pts · 293d
how I look while typing replies:
Zozano@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 292d
I can't tell whether a meme featuring a character from a Chinese game company is part of the joke or coincidental.
Either way, I upvote for Silver Wife.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 292d
Hell yeah, spread it out for everyone to see.
Noice
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 293d
Oh gawd that is rich, do authoritarians pay you for these sick memes!?
Diva@lemmy.ml · 43 pts · 292d
I actually unlocked the ultimate grift: getting on the payroll for every foreign government all at once in return for my single digit posts per day on obscure internet forum for linux nerds.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 292d
Me, I'm not on anybody's payroll. But I'm trying to be. Once I build up my modlog enough as a freelancer, the plan is to print it out and mail it to the nearest Chinese embassy so I can finally quit my day job.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 292d
"Thanks for joining us for the Militant Lemmy 2025 awards show! It is going to be a great year for autocrats boys and girls. A special thanks to all our disenfranchised westerners, remember without your misguided support tyrants everywhere might feel unwelcome.
For our first award this year we are celebrating the most hypocritical poster. We are not just talking about any old conservative hypocrite here, we are talking about people so hypocritical they don't even remember what they actually agreed or disagreed with to begin with. People who are so contradictory they make doublethink seem like a fun meditative practice.
Alright, the votes are in. This is going to be a wild one folks! This years winner is none other than DIVA!!!"
See, this proves even if you are a lonely pusher of shitty propaganda you to can get recognized for your efforts. Congratulations, you really do deserve it.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 292d
Idk why you call my hypocritical or disingenuous, I'm actually very ideologically consistent and earnest, I just like to joke around as well.
that aside, I don't need your recognition when I already have like 12 different paychecks rolling in
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
Why do you care about tankies so much?
You can just let people be wrong. It costs nothing.
They're obviously hardliners to the point of comedic effect but why do you care so much to argue?
Do you really expect someone who's so set in their opinions as to join .ml to read your comment and just go, "oh damn, guess I'll just stop believing in the things I believe in and believe in entirely different things"?
Do you genuinely think you're so convincing or do you just enjoy a good pissing contest?
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · -2 pts · 292d
ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 292d
Yes, I agree, spreading Russia's misinformation should be combated and illegal.
We need to immediately close and fine Facebook, X and Reddit.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 292d
Do you believe that engaging in arguments will change that? If anything your helping them by boosting their visibility via engagement metrics.
Changing a tankie's mind with arguing is a sisyphean task.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 291d
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 292d
Tankies are the worst of the worst. They ban people for nonsense, brigade people with alts, and are devoid of candor. I have talked with hundreds of people who have been mistreated and abused by them including myself.
What I say here has no bearing on anything and I am not stopping anyone from doing anything. I have no power, I am not a mod, and I don't have alts.
I was literally having a fun fantasy in the face of someone that is without a doubt disingenuous. It is taking it to a higher place beyond what is going on. Absurdity meets absurdity. I get you don't get it and that is okay.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 292d
Lol pure projection
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 292d
I have no love for tankies. It just seemed like a lot of effort and mental energy went into that so I thought there may be some interesting lore there.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 292d
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 292d
Pick up that can...
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 291d
Imagine loving kindergarten and the "clean up" song so much that you post this meme repeatedly thinking it's some kind of burn, while not even realizing that this kind of thing completely serves authoritarianism.
Indoctrination works.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 291d
Politically you are a toddler
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 292d
You do know that crazy people can believe in and spread conspiracy theories for free...
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 292d
Your probably right.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -10 pts · 292d
So not liking .ml makes you checks notes a conspiracy theorist. Got it.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 292d
Your reading comprehension needs work.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -11 pts · 292d
Except it's true. Not a fan of tankies or marxism
Diva@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 292d
personally I prefer marxist/anarchist spaces, not a fan of liberals or conservatives
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 292d
That's great for you, you can enjoy your commie and anarchy. I'm just gunna chill over here.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 292d
It'd be worthwhile opening up your mind to Marxism. Tankies are kinda like the KKK of conservativism
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 292d
I know about marxism it's not for me. I like democracy and capitalism and I don't even benefit from it much, but I just prefer it to be this way.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 292d
That's kinda the problem though. Preferring it to be this way isn't a realistic thing. Capitalism will end in favour of something else eventually; whether it be in our lifetimes or 500 years from now. That's what Marxism explains.
Similarly, Marxism aims to achieve MORE democracy than we currently have. You're only aware of the Leninist variants. You don't actually know as much as you think.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 292d
Naw again I understand it I just prefer the way the government is now. I don't think marxism is the solution or it will happen in our lifetimes but I agree it might in the future
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 291d
Cool life. \s
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 291d
yes sir.
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -19 pts · 292d
Lemmy.ml is the devil tempting good leftists to sin. They pretend to be leftists, but the admins are transphobic. It's a trap designed to trick leftists into supporting transphobia. That way they won't get to go to heaven.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 292d
I was made a moderator here after calling out cis shitters being transphobic in our trans comm; the only admin we have beef with is Nutomic, the rest have been fine.
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -21 pts · 292d
Have you considered that you defending an instance that defends a transphobe means you are defending a transphobe? Because Jesus Christ (transmasculine, He/Him) would have considered that if He were in your position, and He wouldn't do it. It's a sin.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 292d
I'll happily go to hell if the alternative is ceding a space I'm in to transphobes without a fight tyvm
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -9 pts · 292d
Well no, both of those things are supporting transphobes, the only difference is whether you're supporting Nutomic's transphobia or someone else's. The true alternative is to quit lemmy.ml and not be a transphobe supporter at all.
I guess your argument is the best thing to do is to slowly reform the space by working under a transphobe, like that's ever worked in history.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 292d
is your actual position that trans people should give transphobes free reign in any and every space they want, because to contest that would be actually supporting them?
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -6 pts · 292d
My actual position is that Dessalines should tell Nutomic to either stop being a transphobe or get lost. And since Dessalines won't do either, lemmy.ml is a lost cause and should be defederated by every trans-respecting instance until it's stuck in its own little transphobic bubble with lemmygrad and hexbear. The rest of us get on with our lives and slowly move over to Piefed like Ada is doing with her community. Eventually lemmy.ml is about as influential as Truth Social or Raddle or Digg and Nutomic dies at the ripe old age of 90, having learned nothing and lost all relevance. In the intervening decades a worldwide communist revolution has destroyed capitalism, so Nutomic is entitled to free healthcare in his battle with cancer/parkinsons/dementia, because I support liberty and equality for all, even wankers.
That's what I think we should do.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 292d
Facts
iloveDigit@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 292d
Jesus Christ is a fictional character and the logical end conclusion of your points is:
"Transphobes decide where everyone else can go. First we wait to see where transphobes go, and then we stay away from those places, because we want the transphobes to have free ownership of whatever they choose and not be bothered by anyone"
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -2 pts · 292d
Nutomic is one of the two lead developers and owners of lemmy.ml. If using and defending a platform owned by a transphobe is brave resistance, why don't you go to Truth Social or Xitter instead? It would save us having to hear your silly arguments.
iloveDigit@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 292d
I use X because I'm not banned there. I won't bother with Truth Social knowing they'd ban me
JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · 0 pts · 292d
Well there we go, don't we
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 291d
Can we not do the reddit novelty accounts here?
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 292d
Lol yeah you sound like a jesus fan, physically incapable of understanding anything outside the context of sin and damnation
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 292d
You were on the right track but then fell off
Dogyote@slrpnk.net · 54 pts · 292d
Every time I see an anti-.ml meme I wonder, why are people so worried about people seeing .ml content? If they're jerks, wouldn't you want people to stumble into .ml and find out?
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 40 pts · 292d
Before I found out, I would have preferred to find out naturally. After I did stumble in and find out, I wished somebody had warned me.
Dogyote@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 292d
Oh poor thing, you'll recover from the trama someday.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 292d
Roughly in about the timeframe you would remove the pointy tree branch from prostate that's making you such a condescending cunt. 😢 sorry if I don't hold my breath
Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social · 17 pts · 292d
Anti-leftism is an all consuming, load-bearing pillar of fascism. Since .ml is tangentially leftist aligned...
Gigasser@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 291d
My conspiracy is that people are trying to ramp up enough of a campaign to defederate from .ml, not knowing it's history on Lemmy and how most .ml users are actually quite chill and actually genuine people once you get to know them. I mean Jesus Christ guys, .ml users arent all bots.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 291d
Certain people just like echo chambers and can't see the value of opposing beliefs or arguments, no matter the level of sense that those may or not make.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 291d
Libs vs tankies is just an extension of imperial conflict.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
.ml is just the latest designated "tankie" instance. So far it's the third one. Once .world defederates from .ml, the same people who currently hate .ml will designate another "tankie" instance to hate.
iloveDigit@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 292d
So .world is extremely anti free speech? Is there an easy way I can block all of .world from my feed then?
froh42@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 292d
Free speech means that you can speak your opinion freely without the state (country...) punishing you for it.
Free speech doesn't mean I have to listen to/read everything.
And yes, you can block the whole of lemmy.world easily, if you want to.
iloveDigit@sh.itjust.works · -26 pts · 292d
Didn't ask what you wish I meant by "free speech" or what you're glad I don't mean by it.
Would thank you for answering what I asked if you didn't waste my time answering (with fucked up wording) those 2 un-asked questions first
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 292d
People who rant about "free speech" typically mean "hate speech" but don't have the balls to just call it that.
pulsey@feddit.org · 13 pts · 292d
Why do you want to block an instance? You don't like free speech?
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 292d
Wow you really wasted 5 seconds reading a lemmy reply
froh42@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
I did answer with these statements on your first question. Regarding the second one, sorry I'm not the tech support.
irelephant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 292d
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 292d
This guide is wrote up for those who have a hard time banning .ml and constantly removed about being able to see our content. It could be used to ban .world if you want i guess.
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click "Settings".
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says "Blocks".
Here you will see "Block user" "Block community" and "Block instance". Click the down arrow below "Block instance".
This will open up a search bar. Type "lemmy.ml" and click it after it shows up.
That's it! You've blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don't need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren't done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under "Block user". Now type "UltraGiGaGigantic" Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 291d
That's not enough for the centrists. They don't want anyone to be allowed to be exposed to any idea to their left. Under any circumstances.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 291d
The amount of effort it seems people who like to call themselves leftists but aren't remotely interested in any practical means of getting there are astonishing.
I don't think they ever make good faith arguments and spend 100% of their time online complaining about the practical leftists, doing things like calling them centerists for realizing their 1 day plans for revolution aren't actually ever coming to fruition, or pointing out that their rhetoric, has, and continues to harm people by pulling power from the practical and pragmatic to the whimsical nonexistent nonsense they call solutions to problems but are actually just dream goals.
Somehow, no matter the damage they cause, they double down on pretending the people who aren't in dream land but have the closslest to their goals as them, are the real problem worth complaining about and not the people setting things on fire.
I have to feel like these people are Jill Stien esque psyops sent to derail leftist ideas from ever actually seeing the light of day.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 290d
When it comes to doing the right thing for the American people, the useless centrists you insist on calling "practical leftists" do nothing and call it incrementalism.
When it comes to selling weapons for genocide, they can't do it fast enough and will fight to keep doing it no matter what it costs the American people.
The country has slid to the right for decades and "practical" do-nothing-but-genocide centrists are enthusiastically complicit.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 290d
You are clearly trying to strawman me again, which seems like your go to move here.
The DNC is currently a center right organization.
Practical leftists support them because they understand that in the American political system it is impossible to make another party, so the only way to avoid what we have here is to support the democrats and change them with local politics and primaries.
The practical leftists aren't foolish enough to believe that the democrats losing will magically move them left, as what we've seen is instead, they're happy to continue being "at least we aren't republicans"
Your attempt to call the centrrists do nothing but genocide is an astoundingly ignorant take that shows you truly don't take politics seriously, as you only go based on vibes and not policy decisions and more than that do not understand how little can be done in a permanent fashion when voters let in the other party every 4 to 8 years and you have no usable senate super majority.
You have yet to say anything that wasn't repeating your strawman like a broken record. Like your politics don't have any nuance to them at all or aren't your honest opinions but just something you where to troll people who are actually angry with the state of USA politics.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 292d
There's a lot of users there who would very much prefer that no one to their left (and only their left) should be permitted to speak.
iloveDigit@sh.itjust.works · -14 pts · 292d
Your reply comes form there but will probably be the last post I see from there because I'm gonna go ahead and block the instance. Unless that still lets replies come through (fine with me, main feed is more my focus)
squaresinger@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
Interesting way of reasoning: "They are bad because they block stuff they don't want to read, so I block them because what they do is stuff I don't want to read."
Shouldn't you be blocking yourself if you follow that way of reasoning?
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 292d
Oh look, someone else to block.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 292d
Nobody cares who you block
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 292d
Do you announce every button you press?
"Hitting the reply button below your comment!"
"Typing my comment!"
"Clicking Reply!"
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 291d
Yes they do, that's how they operate. It's just showing off they don't like new viewpoints.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 292d
Another!
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 290d
Some of them have already started with Db0
Emotional@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -4 pts · 292d
People designated .ml as a tankie instance for very good reason: the admins of .ml have repeatedly shown to be pro-authoritarian.
For years now I've seen incessant gaslighting from tankies pretending that "tankie" is some catch-all term baselessly thrown around like "woke". However, I've pretty much exclusively seen the term "tankie" used to describe people who support authoritarian regimes/dictatorships.
irelephant@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 292d
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 291d
Yeah we're somehow Tankies for wanting democrats to try harder and saying we need to do more then vote.
PugJesus@piefed.social · -6 pts · 291d
An 'anarchist' instance which claims to oppose genocide, yet allows genocide denial if it's painted red, and where the admins deny UN verified sexual assault.
Fantastic.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 291d
Anything's possible when you make shit up kiddo
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 292d
I don't support authoritarian regimes, but I get called a tankie plenty by centrists who hate that I don't support the authoritarian regime that their wing of the party sold weapons to.
"Tankie" is just something the genocide wing calls people who disagree with their only policy.
Emotional@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 292d
ah, then my impressions are biased, since I haven't heard that term outside of Lemmy.
There's pretty much only one person I know irl that calls themselves a "centrist".
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 291d
Bedtimes are authoritarian, your parents are tyrannical
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 291d
LOL. Your main instance — lemmy.blahaj.zone —has a blanket ban on all Marxist Leninists, regardless of whether they are “tankie” or not. That is the most authoritarian thing I have seen on Lemmy so far and it’s from a self-proclaimed anarchist instance. The hypocrisy is hilarious. Anarkiddies are so unserious.
Emotional@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 291d
Sure? But Blahaj isn't a country, it's a social media.
I'm free to register on multiple instances at once. If I ever became displeased with Blahaj's admins, I could very easily go elsewhere.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
Why are you talking about countries? This thread is about social media.
Emotional@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 291d
My apologies for the confusion.
In my original comment, I was talking about the term "tankie", which is a term we're seeing used a lot on Lemmy (a social media) to refer to people who support authoritarian governments (of countries, such as Russia and China).
In my reply to you, I meant to say that the effects of a Lemmy instance being "authoritarian" aren't at all as harmful to its users as an authoritarian country is to its residents, since it's easy to change instances but its not generally easy (and sometimes not reasonably possible) to change countries.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 290d
.ml also isn't a country
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 290d
By any leftist conception, capitalist nations are undeniably authoritarian, yet you never see self described "leftist" who praise welfare capitalist states like the Scandinavian countries getting called a tankie. Clearly the term is not "used to describe people who support authoritarian regimes/dictatorships".
MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca · -2 pts · 290d
Probably good to warn people that .ml isn't representative of the fediverse at large, they're just very loud.
If you were introducing a new friend to America but for some reason, knew their flight was landing in a MAGA convention, would you not warn them so they didn't immediately turn around and go home?
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 292d
During the Reddit exodus, there were lots of complaints about left wing extremism. Most of them were landing on ml, grad or hexbear. This isn't a good thing in the long run, so the bad press is necessary; otherwise this place risks being branded as "tankie HQ" before we can get some real traffic here.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 292d
No one "worries" about seeing it. It's that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you'll eventually be hit with "capitalism causes all problems in the universe" or the rest of their standard "I'm 19 and this is deep" tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It's exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it's just of a constant eye-roll when "I'm an independent thinker! Here's the same thing we all say!" happens.
Edit: OOOh, seems like I struck a nerve, eh?
Dogyote@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 292d
When people post comments like yours or memes like the above it really comes off as defending capitalism and the status quo...
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 292d
You clearly haven't engaged with anything, and lol @ "independent thinker" from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you're doing
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 292d
capitalism causes all problems in the universe
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 291d
Then block them and quit whining that people don't like exploitation as much as you.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 292d
Piefed and .world the ultimate lost Redditor starterpack.
carrylex@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 292d
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 293d
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 293d
Anarcho communism...anarchosyndicalism...Christ I wanna take all these obfuscations, crumple them into a ball of just plain anarchy, and burn it. No offense of course!
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 293d
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
Well I guess nothing causes chaos quite like that 🤑
MisterFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
As a side note, I've only done very little Wikipedia level reading on anarchocommunism, and as much as I also believe people help each other willingly, I've yet to hear a good defence on how it would be possible with the massive populations we have now, as opposed to pre-history.
It's all well and good that there are federated groups, with free association, but this is fundamentally ignoring that not all regions are equally blessed in resources.
If you have money, well then you need a centralised or decentralised way of miniting the money.
If you don't have money, well, I don't think it's much of a stretch to think that people will want to take care more of the people immediately around them, rather than people on the other side of the world, and since we're not getting together on large scales to make binding decisions, then there's no way to guarantee that everyone has a fair share.
I'm not saying that more decentralised government wouldn't work, but I do remain thoroughly unconvinced that free association of small groups across the entire world, would lead to much equity at all.
And as much as we may dream, there WILL be dickheads ruining it for the rest of us. Humans are nice, but humans can also be awful. Pretending otherwise is foolish and doomed to failure.
I'm a socialist, and am very keen to hear your thoughts :)
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 293d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_without_adjectives
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 7 pts · 293d
You know what's cute?
Watching Anarcosyndicalists argue vehemently with Anarchocapitalists
Diva@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 292d
I really rather not argue with 'ancaps', it's a meme ideology that is completely fine with a dictatorship of capital.
here's my favorite writeup from an 'ancap' after one such exchange:
::: spoiler spoiler
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
This copypasta is fantastic lmao
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 5 pts · 292d
I stopped reading here. Molyneux is an open white supremacist; Cantwell is more well-known as "the Crying Nazi"
Anyone consuming their content regularly and posting to these blogs shares much more ideologically with the Third Reich than they do with any notion of tolerant diverse civil society.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 291d
my experience with US libertarians is that they're all like that just under the surface
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · -1 pts · 291d
You do understand how tribal and insular this is, and how much you are playing into exactly the us-versuss-them dynamic that you purport to hate?
Diva@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 291d
just stating my experience with them as I've known many over the years, the ones who are actually earnest stop being ancaps/libertarians
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 291d
Was that post even real though? I feel like it's been debunked.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 289d
it's so on the nose it's probably fabricated, but I still find it amusing
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 292d
I'm gonna be honest, kicking the shit out of a nerd because you don't agree with his words is not as cool as you seem to think.
Sure he was "wrong," but did anyone try "please leave, we no longer wish to discuss these matters with you" before jumping to initiating violence? Multiple attackers no less (which would meet the threshold of deadly force in most states, luckily for them not Greece).
Back in my day children were taught to use their words, but I guess immature adults that are incapable of doing so still have to bully people physically, sucks to suck I guess, get eloquent losers.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 292d
counterpoint: ancaps suck and I don't care about people being mean to them
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 292d
Sure, then again tankies suck but I don't think people should initiate violence against them for their words, I'll just argue or cut comtact. Guess that's what makes me better than you.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 292d
They're not arguing for racism and capitalism to continue though but you can do what you like and I'll continue to laugh at the copypasta
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · -6 pts · 292d
That's what makes us civilized, and the Diva from lemmy.ml Part of the Problem, and actually an unintentional Nazi accelerant and enaber.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · -8 pts · 292d
Ahhh... lemmy.ml; I should have known. An information bubble.
Yes it feels good an cathartic to hate on people whose ideas are perverse. Let the hate flow through you all you like; it won't turn you into one of the Good Guys.
Yes, Nazi ideology needs to be annealed, expunged, eliminated from the world in the same way that, say, chattel slavery (laregly) has been.
No, that won't happen by people beating up Nazis.
Grow up
Diva@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 291d
what does annealed mean in this usage? I don't get the metaphor you're going for because the literal reading to me says you're saying that it must tempered/softened. I don't think that's an appropriate response to Nazis, it's a very soft connotation.
making fun of libertarians really struck a nerve huh
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 291d
Physical violence is literally the only way to stop nazis, go read a book
w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 293d
Ah geez just melt my brain instead 💀
iloveDigit@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 292d
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 291d
Wait until you meet the other people who hate tankies.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 291d
Tell me one (1) successful socialist revolution you support
Or, better, do you support the Spanish Civil War anarchists (who lost to fascism) more than the Bolsheviks (who won)?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 290d
Doesn't that mean you want to forcibly cease people's property at gun point and shoot them if they try to stop you? That sounds pretty fucking tankie to me.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 290d
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 290d
Ok tankie
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 289d
ProperlyProperTea@lemmy.ml · 31 pts · 293d
I just joined because it didn't require an email to sign up. Not sure what else happens in this instance tbh.
PillowTalk420@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 293d
Authoritarians cosplaying socialist/communists.
verdigris@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 293d
Western leftists only like failed socialism.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 293d
If that's what you call success, then maybe we should keep brainstorming.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 291d
Defeat of Tsarist absolutism, defeat of Nazism, universal healthcare and free education to the highest level, lowest inequality rates in the history of the region, doubling of life expectancy in the span of 30 years, guaranteed housing and abolition of homelessness, abolition of unemployment, respect and promotion of local languages and cultures to an until-then unseen degree (compare the evolution of Occitan speakers to that of Uzbek speakers), representation of women in institutions and having more female engineers by the 1960s than the rest of the world combined, urban planning based on pedestrians and public transit, support of anti-imperialist struggles all over the global south, unparalleled levels of worker unionization... All of this saved a hundred million lives in the USSR alone.
I do call all of this much more successful than any other system we've had. There were mistakes, as in any real political project, but actually winning the class war is one of the biggest markers of success.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
They only want "socialism in name only".
verdigris@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 292d
Yeah that's clearly working out great.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 292d
The climate?
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 292d
Bedtimes are authoritarian, your parents are tyrannical
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
This you?
Psythik@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
Sums them up perfectly. Pretends to be communist but acts like MAGA.
Edit: LOL looks like the tankies found this comment thread.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 291d
Acting like MAGA is when you ban pro-israel discourse and don't allow transphobia to fester
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 290d
Western leftists believe the only good communist is a dead communist. If they actually succeeded, they'd become "authoritarians"
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 293d
A ton of tankie stuff
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 293d
It’s not as bad as it’s made out to be, but there are mods there that are the “whitest of knights” for authoritarians, despots, and fascists while pretending that it’s not the polar opposite of leftism.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 290d
Your instance has Zionists adminning it
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 292d
it's where all the tankies (supposed leftists who don't understand that there's no existing state that works for the good of its people) hang out. tbh I have no issues with the non political .ml users
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 291d
Back in my day, yall were kind enough to wear a mask and not say the quiet part through a bullhorn.
The worst allies anyone could hope for...
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 292d
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 293d
I chortled
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 293d
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 293d
gallumph
MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 293d
Huzzah, that was my hope!
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 20 pts · 293d
I thought this was a weird submission to unix_surrealism at first thanks to my brain immediately going to the puffer
… grendel is a psyop
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 292d
Must be exhausting to continously maintain your campaign against .ml
Why not just block and move on with your life?
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 292d
So I should avoid Libertarians, OpenBSD, and the IWW?
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 292d
I don't know about the rest but yeah libertarians generally suck. But they can be really funny, just not when they're trying to tell jokes.
For my favorite of all time, go to r/libertarian and search "age of consent", then sort by controversial
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 292d
Also libertarians support... checks notes...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard#Children's_rights_and_parental_obligations
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 292d
Yes you should definitely avoid libertarians. They’re not living in reality. The other two are probably fine.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 292d
Fair enough (OpenBSD is an operating system and the IWW is a major union)
regdog@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 292d
Why do so many tankies hang out on a Mali top level domain?
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 292d
🙄
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 292d
I don't get it. Where is loss?
Tenthrow@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 293d
Classic
mlg@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 292d
Something something platform foundation something something
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 293d
How nature says block.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 291d
Attention everyone, I am replying to MehBlah.
This is the end of my PSA.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 292d
Whats the issue with ml?
catrass@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 292d
OpenBSD
arsCynic@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 291d
People see what they want to see? I've seen content I don't agree with on several instances but the main reason I've got my main on lemmy.ml over Beehaw is because it annoys me greatly that there's so often posts I don't see that are relevant to me or just communities that seem accessible but inactive but are actually blocked without the interface saying so. This spuriously makes it seems as if a community is dead.
To avoid ambiguity: Trump is a sentient lump of metastatic cancer and many right leaning people are limp-dick insecure ignorant assholes.
helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 292d
whats wrong with ml?
dorumon@lemmy.cafe · 9 pts · 293d
I love you Lemmy never change.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 292d
Thanks for the laugh.
mandatstory@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 292d
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Me too, and my timeline have improved by a lot.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
Do you people have any idea just how much signage costs? It way cheaper to have everything figure out it's own danger sign.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
Openbsd?
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 293d
As if lemmy.world isn't a total pile of shit
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 44 pts · 293d
I’ve never been banned from lemmy.world for describing my own experience when I was in Cuba 🙃
Objection@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 293d
I was banned from !world@lemmy.world simply for asking for evidence for claims made about China.
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 6 pts · 293d
got a link to this? would love to see context
Objection@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 293d
I blocked the comm (as I do any that ban me) but this should be the link to it.
It started off in a completely unrelated discussion, where someone recognized my username and accused me of "supporting genocide of Uighurs," which is false. I don't think anyone should start genociding them or anyone else, and have never said anything like that. What I have said before is that I don't believe claims without evidence, even if following proper due diligence in investigating claims regarding genocide cause people to baselessly scream that I "support genocide."
So a mod responded by doing what libs do, typing it into Google and picking a handful of headlines that sounded like they support their case and posting them without reading. At that point, I simply asked the mod how many times the name Adrian Zenz was mentioned in his links and whether he considered him a reliable source or not. In lieu of responding, he banned me.
The answer was that his name was referenced 18 times. All of the sources I was provided with depended on this one witness's testimony, and I've cross-examined more credible parrots.
Like, I didn't even come to that thread to discuss it, nor did I comment on whether the claims were true or not. In response to someone who just had it out for me and was accusing me of bullshit, I defended my position saying I don't believe claims without evidence and haven't seen credible evidence.
Frankly, I think the mod (Jordunlund, I believe) realized they couldn't give a rational response so they banned me instead. Tbh, it's a ban I wear with pride. A perfect demonstration of liberal anti-intellectualism, of how they're actively hostile to fact-checking and rationality, perhaps 10% less so than chuds are. No one who repeats the claims in question ever actually bothered to trace the sources to see whether they're backed by anything, and immediately shut down anyone who does.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 293d
Don't need a link. Uighur "genocide" 99% cited is Zenz, founder of Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, a U.S. "communism bad mkay?" think tank. Mostly propagated by BBC, fuelled by the crumbling and sore Brit empire.
China has plenty of problems. Xin jiang ain't it.
parody@lemmings.world · -2 pts · 292d
Figure he inflated numbers cuz he’s super capitalist? Citations could make sense if he’s the expert, saw he lived in China, but anyway curious your idea of his angle (ideology or money)
Dude’s a feather ruffler!:
-Wiki (he wasn’t linked on the foundation page, nor mentioned, he founded or is director or both?)
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 292d
This guy seem credible to you? https://books.google.de/books/about/Worthy_to_Escape.html?id=lRtSQB3HHJcC&redir_esc=y
https://archive.vn/AVs6t
parody@lemmings.world · -2 pts · 292d
Fundamentalist is he?
Point 2: I get ya. Had me confused. Took me a sec.
Was drawing historical parallel. Note word “unpopular” in particular.
Kinda “don’t forget Hitler had supporters”, ya? If I hadn’t clicked that paraphrase woulda left me with opposite impression, would note when paraphrasing pls
Also IDK if credible cuz read one Wiki page (JK read 15% of it)
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 291d
Adrien Zenz has never set one foot in China and doesn't speak an iota of the language.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 291d
AFAIK, the mod log is public. Click the 3 vertical dots below my comment, click UltraGiGaGigantic's mod history.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Ditto
Valmond@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 293d
Me neither, but I have never been to Cuba.
/j
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 293d
I like it there. The people are nice and welcoming and the beaches are phenomenal. The pandemic absolutely rocked the country. I came back after the pandemic and there were rolling blackouts, not enough protein, even more limits on food options.
They had a big revolt and protests against the gov over the way they handled the pandemic (see articles on Wikipedia for more context). I explained this revolt as told to me by my bus driver. That got me banned from Lemmy.ml (in a post asking what’s going on with Cuba).
Even in this thread if you see some of the replies here, there are lunatics claiming everything I said is fake and that I have ulterior motives. I’m shocked lol. I’m just a dude from Canada who went to Cuba a couple times on holiday.
plyth@feddit.org · 5 pts · 292d
So how is the situation in Cuba?
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 292d
Last time I was there - hot, lacking proteins, rolling blackouts, and the bus follows its own schedule 😆 The convertible taxi drivers are cool and they’ve got these old ass 50s cars with modern stereo systems spliced in. I wish I had brought my bike to ride the coastlines. They’ve got some excellent roads right on the coast.
JamieDub86@piefed.social · 2 pts · 293d
.ml or Cuba?
dumbass@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 293d
.ml probably stole their food.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 292d
Do you still maybe have a link to the post somewhere? I'm curious how's Cuba like, I was wondering if I should maybe go for a trip there or if it's a bad time.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 292d
My post was removed unfortunately but if you see my other comments in this thread I go over it a bit. The last time I was there it was last year so things could have changed.
If you’re going to a resort, expect to have few food options. You won’t go hungry but depending on all sorts of factors, you might only get eggs at the breakfast buffet once a week. It’s expected to tip the staff with a few USD. You can go into Havana or Varadero and go sightseeing and explore. Havana is better for this. Varadero is pretty touristy but still very nice. The restaurants in the city have much better food (I even had fried chicken!) but don’t drink anything with ice. The water isn’t filtered and you’ll probably get mild runs for a day. Wasn’t even that bad but was not a super comfortable day haha.
If you’re looking for a very cheap sunny beach vacation spot and don’t mind the limited food options, it’s great. Expect to only see Russian and Quebec tourists. You may stumble upon the odd Australian or British person but it’s like 60% French Canadians that go there, 30% Russians, and 10% other countries.
You’ll find no Americans there (since it’s illegal for them).
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 292d
I got banned there for linking readsettlers.org and posting a video critical of Ukraine. Then for calling out the mod who banned me because he said "he vets everything before a ban" even though he clearly hadn't in my case.
I got banned from feddit.org for calling out Genocidesmany's role in the palestinian genocides
Just yesterday I caught a ban on lefty memes for calling the azov brigade nazis.
Noja@sopuli.xyz · -6 pts · 292d
repeats what russian disinformation campaigns say, doesn't understand why they're banned.. huh
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 292d
Which part? The video that talks about Ukrainian politics that are easily independently corroborated or the military brigade with a Wolfsangel as it's symbol being nazi? Which one is the disinformation?
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 292d
Just because you don't like the people saying it doesn't make it misinformation
alessandro@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 291d
From the quote of Noja, switch the word "Russian" with trump, like this:
and you get the identical quote of Amnesigenic...
but from Maga.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 291d
Cool story
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 290d
Damn, if you replace the words "finger licking" with "fascism" then KFC sound like Nazis!
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Lemmy.world communities will ban for pushing back against the western narrative, and pointing out their struggles are due to illegal sanctions, and not any failures of communism. Lemmy.ml communities won’t tolerate the willful ignorance.
Not the flex you think it is.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 293d
Willful ignorance is me talking about my lived experience when I was in Cuba? 😆 go outside.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 293d
"I went to Gaza twice in the past six years and the beach resorts were utter shit."
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 292d
If your "lived experience" just happens to align perfectly with US propaganda then yeah
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 292d
I mean if the experience is same as the propaganda says then someone might think at least that part of the proparanda might be true. It doesn't have to be all lies, best proparanda is one where you don't have to lie
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 292d
The only parts of US propaganda about Cuba that are even partially true are also the direct result of the US interfering with Cuba's ability to trade with other countries freely
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 293d
Not understanding the context of that experience is willful ignorance. Read a book.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 290d
I got banned for reporting a Gaza Genocide denier. I was told that Gaza genocide denial is exempt from the normal rules and thus by reporting it I was being uncivil.
I also got a ban for "misinformation" for saying Kamala Harris supported Israel.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 292d
Lol doubt it
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 292d
You’ve never left your state lmao
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 292d
I lived in six different states and another country before I started middle school, try again loser
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · -25 pts · 293d
If that's your gold standard for a pile of shit, have you considered that you've been fooled to be content with a polished turd?
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 293d
Lmao I’ve physically been there twice in the past 6 years and seen how things are with my own eyes.
You and your delusional friends will never convince me that my own lived experience is a lie haha. What a waste of your own time and energy.
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · -19 pts · 293d
You have physically been to a website? And you call me delusional? I was talking about lemmy.world, but we could always talk about Cuba as I've been there too.
Edit: I don't think I will actually bother with this. May your understanding of the world surpass your understanding of context. Good bye.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 293d
And you are sure you weren't given a staged tour that has nothing to do with the reality of most people?
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · 9 pts · 293d
When I bought cigars factory made, smuggled out and sold in shacks in Havanna I doubt it was part of the staged tour - Considering the staged tour was in the factory itself and we were told it was strickly forbidden to buy cigars straight from the factory workers. So we became friendly with them instead and met up after they finished their shift and went to their home shack where we had dinner together, dealt Cohibas and Romeo y Julieta and talked about how life in Cuba was.
But why ask? Have I even said anything about Cuba in this thread beyond that I've been there too? Perhaps you're just an idiot?
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 292d
The meme isn't about lemmy.world. World has a shit ton of issues, including shitty admin and moderator behaviour, sure, but that's not relevant to this meme.
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 292d
Up row: python (?) openBSD
Low row: (?) lemmy
Okey
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 292d
sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social · 1 pts · 293d
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 293d
W meme
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 291d
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 292d
This comment section is solid gold. You'll be able to come back and harvest new posts any time you want until they lock it, if they don't it's gonna go for days and just pick up steam.
Great job my man!
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -7 pts · 293d
Dank
WereHacker@lemmy.ml · -9 pts · 292d
You are welcome back on Reddit I am sure. Good luck with that.
amon@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 293d
Why are we fighting culture wars when the real enemy is Reddit and non-free social media?
This infighting seems unproductive and frankly a waste of time.
EDIT: damn
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 36 pts · 293d
Tell this the powertripping bastards at lemmy.ml, trying to censor everything that is not 100% aligned with their extremist views.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 292d
I've made it 5 years without catching a ban from anywhere except some community on another instance for allegedly being anti-trans, but idk how they got that since I'm pro-trans
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 11 pts · 293d
Yeah that’s a rule1 violation and a ban for you
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 293d
Such as? What extremist views?
jdr@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 293d
I like pistachio ice cream
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
Russia and China are beacons of freedom and prosperity, and everyone should emulate them
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 293d
Well, China is a “beacon of prosperity” by any objective measure. I’ve not seen anyone there make the other claims. Though they do debunk a lot of the anti-Russia and anti-China propaganda, they back it up with facts.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 293d
Does that objective measure also happen yo include freedom of press? Because boy i have some news for you...
Revisionist facts? Whose alt is this?
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 293d
No, freedom of press is not a measure of prosperity. And I don’t know many western countries that are in a position to point fingers at this point, considering how many journalists they’ve helped kill when they covered a genocide.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 293d
I don't see how China is in a position to point fingers considering the treatment of the uyghurs
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
It's a beacon of prosperity when there are anti suicide nets at foxcon? Or like the 996? Run by a dictator, also committing genocide isn't very prosperous. My interactions have been " if it's western propaganda it's entirely false, but Chinese or Russian propaganda is entirely true"
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 293d
Lifting 800 million people out of poverty is more than economic system has ever done.
What genocide?
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 293d
800 million people out of poverty is a stretch but if you wanted to make that claim, it's because the west spent so much money to get goods from China. And the ethnic cleansing of the Uyghurs
Oppopity@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 293d
Should they just let people kill themselves?
Is illegal
The UN did not find genocide only human rights abuses at best. You can go to China, you can go to a mosque and talk to Uyghurs there.
Meanwhile the west is funding a real genocide in Gaza. You can't go there to film the atrocities being committed and brave people still try. Israel has killed more journalists in their genocide than ww2
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
Or maybe if it's so prosperous people wouldn't want to work in a place where they want to kill themselves.
That has never stopped authoritarian governments lol
Ok sorry ethnic cleansing isn't genocide, sorry....
And you think I'm supporting the west's genocide in palestine? Nah miss me with that shit
Yeah dawg I saw the source of that and I was banned in an .ml instance for saying "hows life in north Korea?" "Can't complain" lol
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 292d
If its a beacon of prosperity, why are there so many people leaving? Why is there a consensus amongst the most of the Chinese Diaspora that the west is better?
(Rhetorical question, don't bother answering)
plyth@feddit.org · 11 pts · 292d
Forbes about the topic:
Have you seen the non-.ml posts on lemmy about the unjust economy and the billionaires?
Arguing that billionaires have a better life in the west is not the flex you think it is.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 292d
My parents both grew up in poverty in rural villages, the Hukou system prevented people from leaving Taishan to seek better income, until Deng Xiaoping's Opening Up and Reforms. Even then, jobs have much longer hours and minimal break time. I never really got to see my parents much, they just left my brother and I at home, just the two of us alone, so we end up fighting a lot. That was what "child care" was. At least until I was even old enough to be enrolled in pre-school and primary school.
Because I was the 2nd child, I didn't get legal recognition of my existence until my parent paid the government's demand of a large payment (aka: a "fine) for not having a government permission slip for childbirth, which is like wtf, why is that the government's bussiness?!?
And because we didn't have Hukou in Guangzhou, they didn't let us be in public schools, my parents had to pay for those privately run "school" which have a lower quality of education.
When my family (legally) immigrated to the US, at first, the work wasn't that much better, but eventually they managed to save up and buy a house, and eventually found better income, much better than any of the work they could find in China.
Of course, western countries has its own problems, such as xenophobia and racism, but for the most part, for most people, including many of my parents friends and relative who left China, life is generally better abroad compared to staying in China.
Depending on your circumstances of course, if you are a scientist, maybe its would be best for you to stay, but most of us aren't scientists, don't have much opportunity for income in China.
EldenLord@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 292d
Lol. Lmao even.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 292d
Compare for instance homelessness in china and the west. Homeownership. Access to healthcare, higher education, public transportation etc. Why do you think it's not a beacon of prosperity?
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 292d
China doesn't have better healthcare than the US, their system is essentailly Obamacare. I've asked my aunts in China about it.
Homeownership? I mean that's just white westerners mismanaging their money. Literally I heard of white dudes be spending their entire paycheck in bars and gambling, while still having unpaid bills. Look at the percentage of Asian Americans owning homes compared to non-Asians Americans, maybe its not a "China vs West" thing, but just Asian people are more responsible with money, I mean, we literally live in the same country as y'all, and as a matter of fact, we even face more discrimination and prejudice, yet somehow, Asian people have higher home ownership. No offense, and not to victim blame, but what are y'all doing? I mean... My family didn't come from a rich background either, we grew up in poverty.
High education? I mean, depends. I had a Hukou in Taishan (rural) and was denied access to Guangzhou's (urban) public schools. A permanent 2nd class resident basically. Even the US (prior to 2025, at least) had allowed undocumented immigrants to go to public school, yet China denied their own citizens education if they dare to move to another location even within the country. If we hadn't moved abroad, we have to eventually go to highschool in Taishan, which has a much lower quality of education than Urban areas.
Public transportation... well you got that part right, I'll ackowledge that. I remember Guangzhou's metro being way more modern and cleaner than the US, and I loved the platform safety door protecting people from falling. But that doesn't exactly matter that much when the job market is fucked. And Hukou system is fucking stupid.
The only way for China to be a "beacon of prosperity" for you is if you have some skills like being a scientist or something like that, or just born into wealth. Otherwise, its not a great place for average people.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 290d
There is not a single person on .ml who holds that obviously strawmanned view, and you don't have a single example of it
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 290d
Sure thing skip
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 290d
Yup. Which is why you're having to make shit up
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 290d
You can keep telling yourself that
Damage@slrpnk.net · -4 pts · 293d
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 293d
What is extremist about that?
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · -2 pts · 293d
Without elections you get to have kings and emperors. Unless you go full on direct democracy which actually is becoming more feasible thanks to the Internet I guess?
Oppopity@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 293d
The point is that a system where you just vote for a guy every four years won't change anything because the rich are in charge and have all the power.
Without having the people in power there can't be democracy.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 292d
And what's the system where people are in power without elections?
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
Yep. We need direct democracy, using an auditable digital liquid democracy platform.
WALLACE@feddit.uk · -5 pts · 293d
Yearning for a dictatorship is generally considered an extreme opinion.
Oppopity@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 293d
Wanting the 99% in charge as opposed to the current 1% is the opposite of yearning for a dictatorship. That's yearning for its destruction.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 293d
I yearn for direct democracy and self-rule.
ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 292d
If you were classically educated, you'd know the meme is about Sortition vs Elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition). The idea is that you can't have democracy when you have to vote for your representative, because rich families will manipulate the election process. The better solution to pick your Senate would be to randomly select group representatives and have them cooperate.
And that was what Greek philosophers like Aristotle thought ~2300 years ago. Actually all sources we have suggest that Greeks from that era though that elections are undemocratic, and only sortition can provide true democracy.
Seems to be true today when we vote, we pick between turds, and nothing changes for the better. <- and that's what meme is about
Side note: Carlin was right, you get educated only enough to be able to work for your masters.
How many people looking at that meme even knew about ancient Greeks shitting on elections in favour of sortition and went there, instead of thinking "elections bad? You must want to have a king, you authoritarian swine"
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 292d
They're right
rbesfe@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 293d
This is Lemmy, nothing here is significant enough to be part of a true culture war.
Also, this community is for memes so maybe don't take it too seriously either
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 15 pts · 293d
I'm not going to say it
Notgonnasayit
JUDEAN PEOPLE'S FRONT!!
There, I said it
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 13 pts · 293d
My dude this is the Peoples Front of Judea territory
PillowTalk420@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 293d
How do you feel about my right as a man to become pregnant?
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 292d
It's like your right to fly.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 293d
We're fighting the same people — fascists. These ones are just cosplaying as leftists
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 293d
as opposed to what pressing matters the community has on our plate?
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · 6 pts · 293d
Reddit and other non-free social media is the result of capitalism, have you considered similar negative effects would occur if the opposite world view was in power?
Reddit is part of the culture war. Lemmy.ml is part of the culture war. Lemmy.world is part of the culture war. Everything is part of the culture war.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
dude it's internet slap fighting, everything that happens here is on such a small scale that it's barely a culture skirmish
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 293d
I think the strength of a federated social media is that it's easy to change instance and infighting is a way to have this discussion and come to conclusions. You wouldn't convince people to leave reddit by posting on lemmy and you wouldn't turn a tankie into an anarchosyndicalist but you might reach people unaware about what instance they landed on or raise awareness about how to interact with communities and users on .ml. Why have a federated network anyway when you refuse to engage with the concept of federation?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 290d
Because .world is trying to be the next Reddit, which is why they're working so hard to monopolize the fediverse and demonise other instances
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 292d
The real enemy is authoritarianists.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 292d
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 292d
Hilarious. Trivialize some real life tragic shit. You sound like a great person. Get deleted in a concentration camp for me.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 291d
You're probably talking about Gulags. GULAG was the prison system of the USSS, with its primary intent being reform of criminals. The vast majority of GULAG prisoners weren't political, as has transpired from modern historiography and analysis of the Soviet Archives. The only moment of history in which the GULAG system had a high mortality, was during the famine caused by Nazi invasion of the USSR, invasion in which 25 million Soviet lives were extinguished in the struggle against fascism. Before, and after the invasion, mortality rates went down to being much lower.
Talking of the GULAG system as of concentration camps just shows that you have done no research on the topic, which is shameful as a leftist. Socialism must be well-informed and materialist, not vibes-based. There is criticism that can be made of socialism, but it has to be grounded on reality if we want it to be effective, not grounded on CIA propaganda.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 292d
Lol@ following up your feigned outrage at trivializing tragedy with a flippant request for your political opponents to die in concentration camps, you've discredited yourself better than I could have ever hoped to
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 292d
It's your concentration camp, not mine. I'm just asking that you get everything you ever asked for. I care about you ♥️
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 292d
If it's mine in any meaningful way then you'll be put in a reeducation camp, you're clearly not ideologically committed/coherent enough to justify execution, and I think you could still contribute to society and lead a decent quality life once you've got your head on straight
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 292d
this guy defending reeducation camps. Lemmy be wild
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 291d
Average "anti-authoritarian" when presented with actual left wing views.
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 291d
I'm not making or endorsing them. I just think if you're going to make them then you deserve to be in one.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 292d
Tankies are authoritarians, they aren't allies. Historically they're the ones killing leftists as soon as they gain power.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 291d
By defeating Tsarism, Nazism and doubling life expectancy, Bolsheviks actually saved tens of millions of leftist lives. In the same sense that you probably (hopefully) support Palestine even if right now they're not very socially progressive regarding leftism, LGBT and women's rights, you may understand why a state under the threat of Nazism invading went through serious disturbances.
plyth@feddit.org · -15 pts · 292d
If lemmy.ml is like a startled cat to you maybe it's time to treat them differently?