Elon Musk awarded nearly $1 trillion pay package by Tesla shareholders
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/elon-musk-awarded-1-trillion-pay-package-tesla/story?id=127145935
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/elon-musk-awarded-1-trillion-pay-package-tesla/story?id=127145935
120 Comments
JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz · 148 pts · 290d
This will come in handy when he's arrested and we use his wealth to cure poverty, homelessness, and hunger around the globe.
What's worth more to our species survival?
One ketamine addicted pants wetting Botox infused South African Nazi with a fragile ego...
Or....
The entire world going to sleep with a roof over their head, a full stomach, and a chance at a better life.
Take as long as you need.
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 54 pts · 290d
If you see a trillionaire there is only one moral thing to do, and its not even close
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 290d
Agreed. This is economic cancer and must be removed. Arrest him ... seize the wealth.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 289d
putin is likely the only true trillionaire out there that is not entirely in investments.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 289d
Don't discount the Saudis. They don't have wealth, they have a wealth faucet.
Aeao@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 290d
I don’t normally encourage some acts.
We have a chance to set a great precedent here.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 289d
Ask the French, they have a good example from 1792.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 290d
note that the tesla car company and shareholders could’ve just ended poverty and homelessness themselves but didn’t.
also he’s the biggest shareholder so that’s neat.
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 289d
His wealth only exists because his companies are way over valued. If he's being arrested, those companies have likely already failed and his wealth with them.
eltrain123@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 290d
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 121 pts · 290d
OK, so not going to happen. This is just bullshit to suck oxygen away from the dumpster fire that is Tesla sales figures.
Makeitstop@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 290d
As I understand it, the fine print allows the board to wave a lot of the requirements and award a large part of the pay package anyway. And since the board is entirely under Musk's control, that's pretty much guaranteed to happen.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 289d
Maybe not the whole trillion, but some of the lower tranches aren't going to be too hard to meet and are still with a shitload.
boeman@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
So a typical day for a cybertruck
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 290d
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 70 pts · 289d
Headline is a bit misleading. He has 10 years to meet a list of requirements to get the pay package.
I actually don’t think he can do it.
He has to sell 1mil humanoid robots, get 12mil robo taxies in the street, and get Tesla’s market cap to $8trillion.
I don’t think he can do the last one. They are at 1 trillion now. NVIDIA has the highest market cap at like 4 trillion.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 289d
He missed every milestone at SpaceX. Stock investors are fucking delusional about autonomous taxis, Waymo has been there for years and it's not a trillion dollar business.
Humanoid robots is pure wank, unless Tesla pivots to sex dolls.
Weirdfish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 289d
I would not fuck a Tesla.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 12 pts · 289d
He won't be able to do the other things either.
The most difficult part of designing humanoid robots is the AI. Boston Dynamics has been working on it since 1993. You can't just slap an LLM on it and hope it works. They will also need rigorous safety testing before a new product like this is even allowed to be sold. Not going to happen in 10 years. 20-30 years at least.
Tesla also is incredibly far behind with their self driving cars. Even if they finally get permission to sell robot taxis, the market will already be saturated by other manufacturers. They will be lucky to sell that many.
It will just all go on his list of unaccomplished lies:
https://elonmusk.today/
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 289d
Sweet summer child ...
Zron@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 289d
The United States might let them on the roads, but the rest of market won’t.
12 million vehicles basically guarantees they have to sell overseas, and for Tesla that pretty much means Europe and Australia, which both have more strict vehicle safety standards than the US.
It’s not gonna happen.
Zexks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
This thread is full of summer children
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgm2jed7xvyo
KaChilde@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 289d
Welcome to the world according to Musk. These things will be out in the wild, mangling people and spontaneously combusting before a safety inspector can get within a mile of Tesla.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 289d
Musk does not need rigorous safety testing for his shit cars, why would he need them for murderous robots?
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
It's not even AI that's the problem wrt to making humanoid robots, it's the lack of dexterity of automatons to do even the most basic tasks that most human can do. Even if AI improves, robots that can move like humans is still the hurdle.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 289d
Definitely, the small and powerful motors it requires don't exist yet. Every robot until then will move more slowly and fluently than a human
But they don't need them to in order to sell them. They do need the AI to be smart enough not to kill the humans it works with.
Zexks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgm2jed7xvyo
No. Not really.
4grams@awful.systems · 11 pts · 289d
Of course he can’t. He knows that. This was 100% optics, so he can go down in history as the worlds first trillionaire. It doesn’t matter that it won’t happen, it did on paper, and that’s all these types care about. He can now brag and boast on his newfound success, and insanely, it will work (at least for a while).
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 289d
This stock and company is so propped up on bullshit, it will happen. Even if the board and investors have to buy his bullshit so he can meet these goals. They need it to happen so the stock price keeps going up.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 289d
What if he gets the government to buy it all, in a roundabout way to provide services to the populace via the government. The rejig the taxis to mean robo trains and buses that are free for everyone. The robots can staff hospitals, doing menial tasks (cleaning, changing diapers), leaving the more important work for actual humans.
Maybe he was a socialist all along!
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 289d
He doesn't need to do it, he'll just lie about it as he always lies about literally everything.
Without his lying he would be a nobody as he has no discernable skill beyond lying his ass off and selling people fantasies
1 million Tesla robots? I've seen student projects that are more impressive than that shit theyve presented and half of it was faked because they couldn't event et anything basic done. Compare those Tesla robots to Boston dynamics and you'd die from laughter
12 million robo taxis? Tesla still doesn't have full self driving that can get a Tesla off a parking lot yet he claims they can cruise cross country through the US without help. Uh huh...
And who forgot how we set foot on Mars in 2018? What a wonderful time that was.
ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 289d
Thank fucking god you explained this. I was thinking wtf is wrong with this world and now I understand this is an unreasonable performance comp plan - makes so much more sense and with the damage he’s done to that brand, people like me wouldn’t buy a thing from them. I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 289d
It depends on how these things are defined. Say, for example, a 1-foot humanoid roomba minus any utility. When it comes to the market cap, causing hyperinflation of America's dollar can allow it to become true by the word, if inflation isn't part of the agreement.
The robo-taxi is probably the toughest part. Maybe a means for the military to 'taxi' explosives into civilians at Stephan Miller's command?
I know. This all sounds stupid. Unfortunately, I have precedent. Gestures at the year 2025.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 289d
No way he lasts 10 years.
Tesla will be bankrupt in 2 years. They may flog it to keep it moving for a while longer, but it is already too late. It's brand reputation sucks, nobody is buying them but losers, most people that own one would dump it if anyone would pay a reasonable amount for it, the quality control is notoriously terrible, and as they age, their repair and maintenance issues are going to become very expensive. They won't recover from any of that. If it wasn't for the government buying so much unused inventory, they'd be in even worse shape than they are.
Besides, he is one of the most reviled men on the planet. In 10 years, the world is going to be very different. Either it will be ruled by ruthless scum like Musk and Trump, or the other 8 billion people on the planet will do something about the >50 people in the world who are fucking it up for everybody else.
I'm really hoping that a decade from now, Musk, and his psychopathic super villain buddies, won't be an issue, one way or another.
return2ozma@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 290d
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 290d
So over ten years Musk is getting about 3% of the entire US GDP for 2024!
ONE MAN receives just above 3% of GDP! AFAIK that's about the combined value of the productivity of 5 million people for a whole year!
I don't get how it's even possible for Tesla to pay him that much? And it's absolutely insane that stockholders think he should be paid that much?!
Triumph@fedia.io · 24 pts · 290d
They basically print money by issuing stock, then compensating with that stock.
wuffah@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 290d
To add to that, billionaires avoid taxes by borrowing against their astronomical securities and stock assets. This is one of the reasons interest rates are of such concern to the rich.
They can then use dividends and other liquid income to perpetually pay for the interest. If shit hits the fan, or they want to pay off the loan, then they would have to pay taxes on the income from the sale of assets.
But if you have a trillion fucking dollars in stock, paying tax on several billion dollars isn’t comparably bad, especially when you can purchase influence by manipulating society with your own social media company and inducing corruption by getting Trump elected.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 290d
It may be their plan, but I think that stock is already on shaky ground. Tesla car sales are declining and they are probably running on deficits now, and energy projects are not going anywhere fast.
The moronic Optimus robot Tesla plans to make is already surpassed by Xpeng, with way more convincing presentation of their humanoid robot Iron, and where Xpeng uses in-house chips something Tesla doesn't have. And robotaxi is an obvious flop that is also going nowhere. Everything Tesla is falling more and more behind.
How that stock hasn't already collapsed IDK.
Triumph@fedia.io · 5 pts · 290d
Oh sure, the stock price is shaky because Musk is a Nazi and people recognize it, as well as their products not at all living up to the hype, and Musk doing things like only using cameras for any self driving.
The Musk compensation package itself won’t effect the stock price, though, unless you count it as “throw it on the pile of injustice”.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
Maybe not as long as it's just a piece of paper, but as soon as this compensation begin to actually have to get paid, you can bet it will have an impact.
I sincerely hope the Norwegian fun pulls out, and even if they try to do it slow to not impact the stock value to much to get as much out as possible, there is no way you can put 5% of the stock back to the market without it having an impact.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 289d
seems like thats why hes doing it, because norway has the 1trillion fund lying around.
Triumph@fedia.io · 1 pts · 290d
It’s not in the market, though. It’s in Musk’s account, and that’s where it’ll stay (for the most part). Especially options.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
Doesn't matter, when the stock is registered it's diluted, and will impact the numbers in earnings per share, and the total stock value of the company.
You can't just issue stock, to increase the value of the company, the stock price will always go down when you issue a significant amount of stock.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 290d
krashmo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 290d
There's a fair amount of EVs on the market in the US that aren't Tesla's or Chinese. It's a market segment growing every year.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 289d
that doesnt include overprice ones from the eu, like bmw/mercedes
krashmo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
Kia, Nissan, and Hyundai all make EVs you can buy in the US. So do Rivian, Ford, and Chevy. There's probably more that I'm forgetting.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 290d
Oooo, that's gonna tank the value of the stock.
Triumph@fedia.io · 13 pts · 290d
No, because Musk isn’t going to sell the stock (or exercise the options). He’s going to take out loans using the stock as collateral, and then pay those loans off with future loans.
Only plebs actually spend their own money.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 290d
It will still be a big dilution of the stock. Which will put very hard pressure on the stock price.
There is no way to dilute that much without it having a significant impact.
Triumph@fedia.io · 3 pts · 290d
It only dilutes the price if the stock gets sold.
What does get diluted is the dollar.
Bocky@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
No,
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 289d
Ummm dude that's not how that works.
No money gets created.
All existing share holders get diluted. The shareholders are paying Musk if this happens. When he gets a paid a tranche, the stock price will dip because of the dilution.
Edit: like if Musk magically met all the tranches on the last day, and Tesla was worth 8.5 trillion. It's not going to suddenly be worth 9.5 trillion the next day. The price will go down.
meco03211@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 290d
The difference between 1 million and 1 billion is about 1 billion. The difference between 1 billion and 1 trillion is about 1 trillion.
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · 3 pts · 290d
That's about the best way I've seen the proportions exemplified.
cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 289d
The BBC had a segment on tonight claiming that a stack of $100 bills reaching 1/3 the distance to the moon is worth $1 trillion.
KiwiTB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 290d
Sure but 15 percent or more doesn't exist in reality.
Enkrod@feddit.org · 42 pts · 289d
1 trillion dollars divided by 8 billion humans could pay each and everyone if us 125 dollars, which would go a long way in poor regions.
Or, framed differently: Tesla stole 125 dollars from every human alive to give it to Elon Musk.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 289d
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 289d
He has to bring in 8.5 trillion to claim his trillion. So $1000 from everyone on earth.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 287d
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 289d
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · -3 pts · 289d
The different framing is a weird take, that's not how this works. He's an asshole and this is insane, but that's just not how this works.
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 289d
In the grand scheme of things, thats how it works.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · 0 pts · 289d
If you ignore every nuance about the pay package and assume the global economy is a zero sum game...sure
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
It is though. The technology to build anything in today’s world, including Teslas, is built on the foundation of all prior human labor and innovation. Nobody ever builds anything “from scratch,” and therefore nobody can claim sole ownership over any invention. Capitalists just use force to steal the product of all of that for themselves.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · -1 pts · 289d
Yeah I'm not a moron
I'm talking about the actual pay package.
Enkrod@feddit.org · 1 pts · 289d
I think it's a very important frame. Everyone should have a good, long think about how much money it costs them that billionaires exist. And it isn't distributed evenly, basically every european and american has spend tens of thousands of dollars so that some people have more money than they could ever spend and use it to pay politicians to keep that dough rolling in, stabilising a system of redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich.
The same holds true for rich and poor countries. Most poor countries today are poor because they have been plundered in one way or another.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 290d
I can also run a successful business into the ground, and I would do it for a lot less money.
Edit
I saw a meme earlier and adapted it from billions to trillions. It is a literally unimaginable number.
How Much Is A Trillion?
1 million seconds = about 12 days
1 billion seconds = about 32 years
1 trillion seconds = about 31,710 years. This long ago was the beginning of the last ice age, and before the invention of rope.
1 million minutes ago was approximately 2 years ago
1 billion minutes ago was the year 114 AD,
1 trillion minutes was 1.9 million years ago, the time of the earliest known homo erectus fossils, distant ancestors of modern humans.
1 million hours ago it was the dawn of the 20th century (1901)
1 billion hours ago was 114k years ago, the time when neanderthals first began using seashells as personal decorations. The Sahara desert is a marshland.
1 trillion hours ago was 114.2 million years ago, the Cretaceous period, time of dinosaurs like the Stegosaurus and Triceratops, and the time when bees first evolved. Humans would not evolve for millions more years.
1 million days ago it was about 700BC, Rome was a small village and writing had only just begun to spread.
1 billion days ago was 2.7 million years BC. If all the time since then were compressed to one year, all of recorded history would be just a couple of hours.
1 trillion days ago was 2.7 billion years BC, and the only life on earth were single-cell organisms. Pangaea did not exist yet.
The entire universe is only 13.8 billion years old, so 1 trillion weeks ago is older than reality itself. That’s how much money Musk was just paid for destroying Tesla.
Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 289d
Just physically having 1 billion dollars would take up the majority of a room, stacked up as a solid mass of $100 bills. It's physically impossible to have 100 billion dollars in the same place, let alone 1 trillion.
https://youtu.be/8YUWDrLazCg
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 289d
Those bees won't shut up about it either
Jarix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
You fucked this up.
By your own logic humans wouldn't evolve for at minimum another 85.8 million years from today, which is obviously weekend because humans wrote both my statement and yours so we already exist
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 289d
You are correct! It’s now fixed.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 289d
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 33 pts · 290d
Abject unmitigated balls to the wall madness. There's absolutely no way that hapless moron can generate in excess of one trillion dollars of value for those shareholders over the next decade, and even if he could no single individual should ever have that amount of wealth.
SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de · 27 pts · 290d
Most overpaid "worker" ever.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 290d
It's interesting to note that given the evidence of Elon, that being a CEO is a part time job. It has to be. It's impossible for Elon to work 40 hours a week at 6 companies.
And I've always been told by the people that excuse outrageously out-of-step executive pay with this bullshit narrative about how they are the best and the brightest (just like top athletes, don't you know!), and they work long hours, probably more than anyone else at the company and other such hilarious fictions. They are basically the Michael Jordans of capitalism, yadda yadda.
This guy cannot be working even 40 hours at all six of his companies. That's simply impossible, even if he never slept.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 289d
He claims to work 100 hours per week, but that's still less than 20 hours per company.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
100%. Even if true, it's 16.7 hours if he divides it up evenly between 6 companies. Which is about two eight-hour days.
Also, does anyone really think that working 14.3 hours, 7 days a week, is sustainable? I don't believe he's working 100 hours a week.
Anyway, the more that a certain type of person lionizes Elon as the pinnacle of American-style capitalism, the more they are actually doing quite a lot to tear down their bullshit narratives they've worked so hard for decades to build about executive pay.
Most of us probably knew quite well it was nonsense, probably even saw examples in our lives of people in the C-suite who were quite full of themselves and how "hard" they "work", while taking quite a bit of the credit and almost all of the profits. Oh, and if they fail, these self-styled heroes don't go down with the ship like mere hoi polloi heroes. Oh no, these heroes of capitalism will parachute out and land on gigantic piles of cash as a result of failing. But we were told these people are like top athletes and put in so much hours of intense visionary work, at a pace few other humans could ever do, and so they deserve all this cushy treatment.
With Elon, the math is just self-evident. Being an executive, in one of the most successful cases, is most definitely a part-time job.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 290d
Tesla is still one of the smallest car companies by actual amount of produced goods and their values
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 289d
But the stock is a religious cult. Frankly, cults are a way to make good steady money, ask the Mormons.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 3 pts · 289d
Ask L. Ron "I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is." Hubbard
They do bring in the bucks and that's how it all works right now.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 289d
This dude is straight Bernie Madoff on a global scale.
tonytins@pawb.social · 17 pts · 290d
Elon and Trump combined are creating inflation.
arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 289d
I like how they insist on giving him more money when the reason Tesla sales plummeted is Musk spewing Nazi BS everywhere.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 289d
I wish spacex would hurry up and send elon on a one way trip to Mars.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
If they are willing to give musk this much, his much are THEY getting out of this...
Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 289d
I'm so tired of evil people being rewarded.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 290d
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 289d
Better train his neck muscles if he wants to stand a chance.
notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 289d
Fucking morons.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 289d
Shorts on Tesla
Absolutely insane position to be in for a company that has a triple digit PE ratio
phaedrus@piefed.world · 1 pts · 279d
How many can $3 get me?
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 290d
The con artist/market manipulator is betting on a WW3 economy while stirring the pot to create that market.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 290d
Aww the poor thing, he needs more money for drugs.
if_only@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 290d
For what? Running his company into the ground?
Pfft... I'd do it for, like, half that.
TomMasz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 290d
Meritocracy my ass.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 290d
It's pretty obvious now that being a CEO is a part-time job. If only everyone could get 1 trillion at a part-time job.
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 290d
@grok how much ketamine can someone buy for $1,000,000,000,000 ?
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 290d
Enough to last a lifetime.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 290d
And then some
don@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 290d
A couple grams, at least.
Stamau123@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 290d
Be able to finance a K-hole all the way down to hell with money like that.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 289d
Evil never dies or goes broke.
grue@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 290d
If you have a retirement account with "normal" recommended investments (I.e. broad-market mutual funds, target date or otherwise), you're (indirectly) a Tesla shareholder and the fund manager likely voted your shares for this on your behalf.
You've been disenfranchised and the people controlling your money are breaching their fiduciary duty to you. You should be fucking pissed off!
Bocky@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
etchinghillside@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 290d
Does he get to control the resulting robot army or not though?
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
Some 20-25% control of it ya.
TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 290d
Can't wait until this clowns pyramid scheme collapses.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 289d
And he will leverage the us governments help to meet all criteria to get that pay package. He just has to donate heavily to whoever will replace trump.
QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 290d
Think we should try convincing him to solve world hunger again? Surely he has enough now. /s
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 290d
The criteria is for the perceived value to be 8.5t. Not be valuable or do anything good for the world. Just get the number to be 8.5t. We have completely divorced our collective labour effort from doing anything wise or beneficial for our species, the planet or the future.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 290d
I'd be interested to see the caveats included by the board, in that pay package.
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 290d
Yeah, on paper it looks unlikely that he'll hit his targets.
He has to make Tesla an $8 trillion dollar company (will probably be a world first) Sell 1 million optimus robots And increase earnings from 16 billion to 400 billion Oh and as a final piece de resistance - create a succession plan
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
You think it'll be a world first when Nvidia is already at 4.57T?
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 289d
So when I wrote that, I thought they were "only" $2T, that's my bad
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
Given how stupid fast nvidia went from ~2t to 4.57t that seems like a honest mistake. Who'd think a 2t company would be worth 4.57t in less than a year.
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 289d
I don't really follow tech stocks as it just doesn't make sense to me. I sick to rocks and explosives
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 1 pts · 289d
Thanks, I was wondering what heavy lifting the "could" in the headline was doing.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 290d
Some are listed in the article
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
Time for ANOTHER Gatsby party, just a different host, I guess.
Also, LOL: "entrepreneur". Fucking hell.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 290d
If you take every Tesla ever sold, production costs included, does it even get to that much?
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
I think they've sold around 8 million and if we did a average purchase price of 50k that's 400 billion.
But one of the tranches is 20 million vehicles sold.
That'd be 1 trillion with the 50k price, and assuming sales even stayed flat, reaching 20 mil in the time frame isn't hard. I think the 20 mil tranche is pretty weak and should have been much higher.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 2 pts · 290d
Runaway Reaganomics.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 290d
arsCynic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 289d
https://www.arscyni.cc/file/media/fox_news_aaarghh_muricah.mp4