See, I find, that "critically acclaimed" and "popular" usually don't go well together. However, something with just critical acclaim from people I like (and sometimes a Criterion release) tends to be some of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed.
But to the meme's point, Tarkovsky's Solaris was boring, and hard to understand for me, so much so I didn't ever finish it. I'll have to try again maybe from a different perspective.
I actually enjoyed Solaris a ton for its pacing. It’s controversial understandably, but it felt like the story was moving at a real world pace, rather than the modern approach of one moment of action to the next.
It’s a slow burn, for sure and I wouldn’t say it’s for everyone.
I had a really hard time getting through Solaris, but the ending with the rain is burned into my soul. Sometimes the slog is important in order to feel the meaning.
Read the book. Seriously, Lem's depictions of all things alien are orders of magnitude better than any movie - even modern CGI - can be. (I watched the Tarkovsky movie after reading the book and wasn't impressed either)
It sounds like a cheesy kids' movie. It even kinda looks like one. Or, at least, before it got super popular when everybody realised "hey, this movie is actually really good" and started playing the soundtrack nonstop between viewings. And not just little kids, middle-aged people like it, too. I've been watching and loving movies for about 40 years, and I remember seeing Mortal Kombat (1995) in theaters, and being just floored by that opening. Cheesy yes, but techno music with sound bytes from the game (the Super NES/Genesis game!) while flames roasted the dragon logo? Movie intros usually aren't that cool. Movies aren't meant to be a thrill ride. They play the long con. KPop Demon Hunters was the first one in a long time (I guess 30 years) that gave me the same feeling. I felt it when the first song hit. Then the scenes with the light flashing in the plane windows. I knew I was in for one hell of a ride. I've seen it four or five times now, and it doesn't get old. It may not be good like a Scorcese or Tarantino movie, but it's fun, and that's good. It's more fun than all the recent-ish Star Wars movies. I remember when those were fun. Someone lost the memo.
Movies don't have to be good if they're fun. A lot of people liked Minecraft, Five Nights at Freddy's, The Emoji Movie... I haven't seen any of them. But KPop Demon Hunters looked pretty stupid, too, until I gave it a chance. If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it's done its job. Let's stop asking much more than that from movies. Sure, I have a niche I absolutely love (smart/weird flicks like I Origins, Predestination, Donnie Darko... even if they're pseudo-intellectual, if I can dig into it, I love that shit) but a fun dumb movie is cool in my books.
Kpop Demon Hunters initially looks like a girlie movie that was shoehorned into being an action flick.
It's a drama, interspersed with enough comedy and action to make you forget that it's a drama. The story isn't anything special, but it has well-done emotional beats backed by a soundtrack that elevates it. It is absolutely worth watching. (And the animation is fantastic.)
Don't go into it expecting a cinematic masterpiece; it's made for kids. It is also, however, a kid's movie that is intended to entertain the adults who take their kids to see it.
What, you think that's a new thing? You think people weren't dumb fucks in the 1930s? The 1830s? The 1730s? Human life is temporary, mass idiocy is eternal.
I'll try to be generous to your meme but it's hard. I'll say I used to be like that, part of the majority who thought going to a movie meant it needed to have action, a superhero, or magic. It gets tiring and repetitive though.
A recent example was train dreams. Me 10 years ago would have called it a snore fest. Now? I have much more respect for movies and it ripped me up inside. So this meme is very subjective on the individual
For me, there's 3 reasons to watch movies. 1 is to kill time because I'm bored while being too tired to do anything that requires real attention. That's mostly been replaced by YouTube. The second is because I want to experience a good piece of art. And the third is for a fun experience.
If I'm going to a theater, it's gonna he for a big, splash film with gorgeous visuals. I ain't paying 15-20 dollars a person for a slow, contemplative film I could enjoy at home.
At the same time, when I'm by myself at home, I'm not really into the flashy stuff, because fun is something to share with friends and family. So that's when I watch the deeper stuff.
Same, if I'm spending my time I need more than the predictable super hero plot, I want something with character and heart. It's hard to find but it is out there.
For theaters there are smaller indie ones that do play big titles. Search out your local area to find what may be around you. Those are the ones worth giving your money to. I just won't go to AMC or Cinemark anymore on my own because of how low quality it is
A film comes out that's revolutionary, so every film after it copies it. Future eyes lack that context, so they just see something that looks like everything else they've seen.
Citizen Kane is a good example. The writing, editing, and cinematography were revolutionary at the time. But, through a modern lens, it appears very ordinary because it's very similar to every copycat that followed it.
Among many movies, I felt that way about Killers of the Flower Moon and it literally took me to fall into a random convo with the girl who cleans my office at work before I found a like-minded individual.
That movie and The Irishman were piss, but everybody insists they are masterpieces because Scorsese made them. Scorsese is just like James Cameron and Fancis Ford Coppola where they have reached an age and are so accomplished that they have lost touch with the world and are surrounded by yes men who don't dare tell them no. And so they make very long and very shitty movies that are more for themselves than they are for anybody else. At least, Cameron is able to make his avatar slop entertaining while you're watching it even if it is forgettable af.
Killers of the Flower Moon was particularly infuriating for me because it was so clearly just Scorsese making yet another movie about white men who are shitty, while pushing the native Americans off to the wayside as supporting casts in the movie that was supposed to be about them.
I read the book too because people kept telling me my opinion was wrong and that this was a good movie that is very faithful to the book. Well, clearly every person who claimed this, did not read the book because the book very much stays with the native Americans and their perspective and the case is treated the way it normally would when you have a conspiracy/murder mystery. You get invested in this people, you fear for them and the revelations are horrible.
Scorsese was like: how about we make the movie entirely about the bad guys and we have no reveals ever because we are told exactly what and how things happen from the start and treat the native Americans like they are ignorant, brain dead idiots who fall for the easiest trick in the book? Yeah, let's do that. Let's make the natives stupid and naive and have the conmen be super obviously evil and gross too, to the point that we don't understand how any of these native Americans could have ever called them friend or family. Let's race swap the only nice white man in the movie too. He was native American in real life,, but for whatever reason they made him white in the movie. I still don't know why they did that. I thought this was supposed to be authentic to real life. We do not race swap historical figures. I thought we all agreed that it was dumb when they made Anne Boleyn black. It's also dumb when we make a native American man white in a movie about how white men committed systematic murders on native Americans to get their money.
Oh, let's also make the movie 4 hours long and throw a temper tantrum when cinemas around the world implement intermissions so that movie goers have a chance to pee and get refreshments. No no, this slop is ART and Scorsese-manchild wants you to sit through all 4 hours of his slop because it's his movie.
Piss movie. I hated it so much and nobody agreed with me until I spoke to my cleaning lady who completely understood where I was coming from.
The book is so much better. Such a well crafted blueprint for a suspenseful movie or TV show about a horrific chapter in native American history and how oil money attracts all the predators and vultures in the world to eat you and your family until nothing is left. Not even bone fragments.
But no. Scorsese cannot make movies from any other perspective than that of white men with corrupt souls so, sorry, native Americans. You gotta be supporting casts in your own friggin story.
Amazing. Piss movie. It riles me up everytime I think about it and it riles me up even more how much undeserved praise it recieved. Piss. Movie.
I didn’t follow the hype. All I knew about the movie before going into it was that Scorsese had rewritten the script because he realized he had made a movie about white men and forgotten the native Americans. To which I now ask: what the fuck was the script like before?
I’m glad that you liked it, but please don’t make assumptions about me disliking it because I supposedly fell for a hype train. That is not what happened.
From your long drawn out text that goes into Scorcese's filmography, I assumed you were well informed of his upcoming works and watching something because of a script re-write tends to lend itself a sense of expectation.
I think you might be plugged into the hype machine more than you might allow yourself to believe
Yeah, I tend to heckle the soapboxers. It's a hobby.
Especially those who can't have a civil discussion without downvoting anyone who disagrees with them out of a deep insecurity of being challenged on anything, no matter how small.
Fun fact: there's a recently-ish restored copy of ‘Le voyage dans la lune’ that was hand-colored way back in the day. And the band Air made a soundtrack for it. It was on YouTube, but apparently gotten copyright-struck by someone, and the viewer is advised to be wary of the multitude of AI colorations when looking for a new upload.
You're right, the warm ports have the blu-ray with not only the colored and soundtracked version, but also a b&w version with an English narration written by Melies, and another with actors voicing the characters as performed in the US in 1903.
For me it's Gravity (the one with Sandra Bullock crying in space) and the last two Nolan Batman films. I just don't understand why people like them so much.
I watched it on my 120" 3D projector (while also high as fuck) and still hated the film.
Weed and a giant screen couldn't save that shitshow of a film.
See this is what I'm saying. Everyone praises Dark Knight, so I went in all excited to see what the hype was about, only to leave the film thinking "this is it"?
It's not a bad movie, per se; I think the problem is that the hype had set my expectations sky high, and I don't think it could ever live up to expectations, no matter how good it was. But honestly just about every scene that didn't have Heath Ledger in it had me falling asleep on the couch. The cinematography was good (especially the IMAX shots) but I just wasn't interested in the plot.
I watched "Hugo" because it was so critically acclaimed. It had all the awards. Critics loved it.....
Most boring, pretentious, film-school self-masturbatory slog I've ever watched.
The plot was either boring or incoherent. There a boy in a train station? And now there's a steampunk robot who... draws movies or something? And some old dude in a shitty apartment has a bunch of obscure history films? What tf are we doing? And the robot is magic now?
The only reason it got high marks is so every critic to wax themselves about how bigbrain cultured they are. The totally got all the niche nods/ode/references and it totally justified their bullshit college degrees.....
You watched a children's adventure comedy movie and surprised it's a but nonsensical? Unless the critics sold it as something it's not, I think this one is in you 😄
It was, and that is one of the worst movies I've seen from Guillermo Del Toro IMO. If you enjoyed his adaptation of Frankenstein, you're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth or The Devil's Backbone. Depends on if you're okay watching subtitled, though.
I'll admit I haven't seen Pan's yet and I will be watching it this Friday after remembering about it. My first child was born in 2019 which is probably why it fell off my list.
I really enjoyed his adaption of Pinocchio a couple years ago.
I did watch Chronos yesterday for the first time, and while it's quite dated now the overall premise and story still stands out to some degree.
Don't forget Pinocchio. In my opinion, that is the best Del Toro movie. Practically flawless and it is a crime that Netflix didnt put it in cinemas and that they refuse to put it on DVD or bluray. Fuck them for real.
The recent adaptation of Dickens with Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds. Interesting, but they could've cut about 30% of the singing. It got to be repetitive, and it's not like I dislike musicals.
There are many, but I tend to automatically forget them - I'm not wasting space in my brain for that crap.
Now, of course, you're going to tell me why I'm wrong about these movies. Save it.
Gone Girl. Most boring, predictable, lazy ass movie. The Postman is by far the worst movie I’ve ever seen. Tootsie, I can’t imagine a more problematic way to make a movie. One Battle After Another was good, but nowhere near good enough to win any awards which it definitely will win.
I liked One Battle After Another but it’s definitely a kid-tier PTA. I watched it pretty shortly after Magnolia, There Will Be Blood, and Punch-Drunk Love, though… so the bar was very high. Magnolia was so much better than I expected, it was amazing.
I recently watched it for the first time and loved it. The disjointed flow of it worked for me as a mechanism to immerse in an experience of a person's life. Like a speedrun. The themes - including never really launching into life, seeking to but never really connecting with others except post-facto, struggling to understand and metabolize losses, breaching out of the self - all resonated with me so that helped.
I watched a trailer that seemed to pitch it as an absurd comedy, which on reflection is an extremely weird approach.
The themes made sense to me, I just had no desire to endure the repeated misery and alienation of it. I mean, it's definitely art, I simply find it very ugly. It can be ugly on purpose all it likes, I still find it repulsive.
I've sat through a lot of things that I didn't enjoy in my life!
In this case it was my optimistic nature hoping that eventually there would be something I felt was worthwhile. Alas, no, it was just a post-modern miseryfest, from my perspective.
I only saw this movie once but it still sticks with me. It was such a weird experience that simultaneously hit super hard and was also empty, vapid nothing.
Yeah I can always complain about something specific. I think this one was mentioned as "must see cult classic", so I watched it a bit but just couldn't go through. Something about large factory halls filled with people?
It's post modern, something The Simpsons summed up as "weird for the sake of weird". It's a smidge more complex than that but all I can say it left me with was a deep-seated annoyance at its pretentious existence.
I've got very little time for Charlie Kaufman. I quite liked Eternal Sunshine, but I generally find his stuff pretentious and get a vibe of smugness. That might be unfair -- I guess I'm just not the target audience.
I think his films are just very specific in taste. If you fall into his specific target demographoc the movie is amazing. But it can also depend on the day or it depends strongly on things one has heard about it beforehand.
When I first watched Eternal Sunshine I was incredibly awake. There were so many things and strange details that didn't make sense that my brain was working hard to make sense of it. Later everything clicked and fell into place in an awesome way. I absolutely loved it.
But I know so many people who didn't like it one bit.
His other movies are also that way. My other favourite: Adaptation.
I didn't like the Netflix one. Or didn't understand it or didn't care. Don't know.
I'm bitter and old, AND movies have gotten worse. All those things are true.
I have better now luck with TV shows. Currently, Pluribus is good.
I'm on here now, because I couldn't find anything to watch tonight. I'm hoping One Battle After Another is good, we'll see. Often, I turn off a new movie less than 15 minutes in.
I watched Point Break last night for the second time. Great film. Very unaware of how gay it is though, and I wonder what 90s mainstream audiences thought of it
Oh absolutely, it's a great film! Just watching with a modern lens kind of makes you miss that innocence in filmwriting where macho hotshots "testing" each other comes across now more like closeted bromances than what was perhaps intended.
I kind of feel like a modern remake would lose that bromance edge, and would turn it more into a standard action film which would ruin the magic of the original.
Another fun fact: it was based on Lynch's feelings of becoming a father to a baby with deformed feet. His daughter's feet are ok now, they have a good relationship and she became a film director too!
I absolutely love David Lynch, but Eraserhead is not the first, second nor third Lynch movie I would put on at any given time. I love the radiator girl segment in the film. The rest is forgettable.
I'm more of a Mulholland Drive fangirl. It is one of the best movies ever made in my humble opinion.
Someone also mentioned Elephant Man which is likewise a stellar movie.
You'd think so, but then he makes The Elephant Man and The Straight Story. Both pretty grounded and simple to follow scripts with not too much Lynchness to them. I honestly don't know what to make of Lynch.. he was a man of contrast.
Mostly I just wondered why the movie was made in the first place. Sure, examining the tragedy of creating an intelligent being that cannot mature and cannot let go of emotional attachments by design is interesting... but the meandering, pointless story had like three places it could have ended and just ..... didn't, finally topping it off with a 'bittersweet' ending that seemingly had no purpose besides to give some catharsis to the audience despite being so out of left field that it had no relation to the rest of the story. It could have been an art book showing off the scenery instead of bothering to throw an aimlessly wandering robot child into it.
It was a movie that Kubrick and Spielberg both thought the other guy would be able to make it work. So they passed it back and forth. The scenes you think Kubrick came up with, were actually things Spielberg came up with and vice versa. "Here's a scene you'd be the perfect director to make, you should direct this movie!" So it's a mix between what Spielberg thought Kubrick should do and what Kubrick thought Spielberg should do.
Neither of them could make it work. But Kubrick died and Spielberg felt he had to finish it. It's an interesting movie to see what each director wanted the other director to do, but it's not a great movie to just sit and enjoy as a movie.
I still like the movie although it is definitely a movie I have to be in a mood for. However, after I watch the ending I realize I want the future people and technology to be a movie.
It wpuld be more interesting to reimagine the film as future archeologists discovering this story but maybe not getting it exactly right based only on artifacts. More like short stories being told through the film. It would have had the same message, characters and locations, but would have been more focused as the stories they showed would have had to be ultra relevant to the plot. Not sure if any of this makes sense.
Watched it when it was released, completely forgot about it.
Saw it mentioned on a podcast, watched it again about two weeks ago. I can barely remember it now. The "I see dead people" kid, Jude Law, and Teddy Ruxpin look for a statue? Yeah, that sounds right.
When it was mentioned on the podcast, I mistook it for I, Robot. That's how much I'd forgotten about the movie.
Instead of a tragic - but sensible - ending, magical aliens showed up after Earth was kaput, and gave him what he wanted. There is nothing to tie this ending to the rest of the plot besides the main character, no agency involved in its happening, no nothing. It's unsatisfying. It's a deus ex machina, and not the good kind.
THAT I agree with but it makes sense in that the boy ironically became human through his use of emotion and experience. I would've preferred the bitter sweet ending. Sometimes being human IS living a life of tragedy. But they couldn't leave that little boy at the bottom of the ocean, I get that also. Idk 🤷♂️ seems thematic just a little to "disney" fir me.
Although I agree that they couldn't just end it at the bottom of the ocean, if it were written better it could have had an ending that actually tied into the rest of the story, rather than what it wound up with. The whole thing just felt like a lot of missed opportunities.
IMDB's aren't better. I had noticed at least one movie that had pretty bad ratings despite being pretty good - the only movie adaptation of a Carl Hiaasen novel, which does the novel full justice imho. I guess the haters were disappointed Demi Moore fans?
And it's usually pretty predictable what sort of stuff gets the really high ratings; anything from 8.0 upwards has to be filtered for fandom.
To be fair, part of the premise of that movie is to immerse yourself in absurd ideas in parallel universes... for reasons. So it's not surprising that it gets confusing.
See, I didn’t hate it because it was confusing, I hated it because it felt boring and cringy. Once you get over the initial genre hopping whiplash, it’s just more generic action tropes and multiverse nonsense that had already been done to death by the time that movie came out. At the insistence of the people I was watching with, I admittedly didn’t make it past the expository bagel scene, but once I got the pulse that it was a slice-of-life drama and John Wick thrown in a blender with Rick and Morty, I didn’t mind turning it off, and I usually hate not finishing movies.
I kind of agree that's what I never really got about it. It's not mind bending. It's a classic example of movie snobs having never considered that sci-fi could be art and getting confused when the movie asks the audience to make the slightest leap in imagination.
The thing I did like about it a lot is that it's a very rare movie, especially an action flick, in which the main character is a 40+ year old woman who actually gets a character arc. That was cool.
Alright, I got around to finishing it sooner than I expected.
Fully agree: the second half of the movie does actually go somewhere with all the nonsense. The character development is fantastic, and the sci-fi actually is used as a creative way to explore self worth and interpersonal relationships.
I stand by my frustration with what comes across as gratuitous, dated feeling humor and tropes (Scott Pilgrim, Rick and Morty, “so random! XD” Internet culture), but it definitely has a lot more depth and substance than I was ready to give it credit for.
I'm glad you liked the second half. I generally agree with your assessment that it has a lot of lol XD so random stuff in it, but I think the later parts of the movie do a good job of justifying that thematically by bringing up the idea that meaningless randomness is inherent in a multiverse, or at least that finding it meaningless is a common way of dealing with a multiverse.
The gimmick was gimmicky, sure - and they made sure to do it as gimmicky as possible, all part of its charm.
Its staying power was in the unique story of a mother pulling her daughter away from the precipice of spiralling self-destruction by opening her heart and mind to new ideas and breaking the cycle of generations of cultural abuse.
It genuinely has a wonderful message, and I remember it for that, and less for its action/scifi
once I got the pulse that it was a slice-of-life drama and John Wick thrown in a blender with Rick and Morty, I didn’t mind turning it off
See, for me that was the appeal.
I feel like a lot of the audience is so media illiterate they didn't get that and instead treated it like some cinematic masterpiece with all these deep messages.
The bagel scene was silly nonsense completely on-par with your metaphor, but it was fun too. Anyone who thinks the bagel has all these deep layers beyond just a quippy scifi joke is the embodiment of the "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" copypasta lmao
It's not confusing at all, it's one of the most straightforward and easy to follow plots imo. Would definitely satisfy the "second screen" requirements of most at-home streaming audiences lol
Honestly, maybe that's the real reason it became so popular. Even a child could keep up with it.
It's not that I don't like the film, quite the contrary.
I just can't stand that people compare the shit to The Godfather. My impression of these viewers is they walked out of the theater going "I haven't cried that hard since Endgame!!"
It's really, really not that deep. It was fine for what it was, well produced and rather entertaining. But it's a far cry from Citizen Kane or Memento lol
If you wanna watch movies that actually feel like art just watch sexploitation films (whats funny is they are less perverted than most modern pg 13 films) Apparently sexploitation means exploiting the audience by using sex to grab their attention, so like game of thrones, shameless, outlander, even modern family, etc. lol. I always thought it meant the actors got abused or some sht, but they're still alive and that doesn't seem to be the case for the most part.
A lot of them are surreal af and feel like time capsules. Plots super basic, barely any characters, but the scenery is sometimes amazing, like every place they film I want to visit. They are weirdly memorable for their scenes while I could not tell you a single movies name. I think the horniest one ive seen is no where near as horny as modern movies/television that aren't framed as sexploitive.
they were made in the 70s mostly. cultural standards were very different, and for the time, they were considered deeply offensive and scandalous. they also were made on super low budgets with c list actors and staff. the b movie emerged later from them.
Y'all are seeing Survivors Bias / Rose Tinted Glasses in action
The bad movies of the less recent past are forgotten or lost to time, even the over hyped ones.
But we're living in the present, so the bad and over hyped of the recent past is still fresh in our minds, and that paints out perception of "they made better movies in the past"
There was the same or more bad shite, just everyone forgets about it
Our breakfast television has a movie critic straight out of the feuilleton. Any movie that people actually go to is automatically bad, and there is not enough praise for art house films that makes people fall asleep in the cinema and never even make it to TV or streaming.
I've realised that over time, a lot of my favourite films or ones that I enjoy and basically mainstream blockbusters.
I try to broaden my horizons but quite often, I find these amazing acclaimed films boring.
It's not quite the same but I was amazed when I got the Criterion edition of Armageddon. All these bonus features about a great blockbuster film.
So imagine my disappointment when every other release from Criterion is a film I'll probably never watch in the first place.
Example, I took a chance on Brazil because I was in a bit of a Terry Gilliam phase. I quite enjoyed that one. Then I tried Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. That DVD never got a second play.
Really? I understand not liking it, taste is personal and his movies are quirky to say the least... but not understanding the plot? were you on your phone all movie (my wife does this and then complains she got lost). I ask because the plot of pulp fiction could be written in half a page, the only thing complex about it is that it is shown async
My wife once asked if we could rewind two minutes, where I told her "Just this once. Will not happen next time you're on the phone during a movie". She never repeated it, but still has to look at her phone many times during movies.
In my experience, when people are on their phone throughout the movie, it's usually a sign that they find the movie incredibly boring. Some people simply don't like watching 2 hours of people talking.
I disagree... I have seen so many people, my wife included, not letting the phone down for a good 15-20 minutes after the movie starts, by then, they are already lost so the movie never had a chance
If you find a movie boring, stop it... why ruin it for yourself and all around you by being on the phone throughout the duration of the movie?
I find many of his movies enjoyable, but they definitely is a required taste. The last Tarantino movie I saw was the hateful 8 and I hated that movie so much, so I get where you're coming from. Haven't watched his movie about Hollywood because I cannot bring myself to care about Hollywood people making movies about life in Hollywood. The only Hollywood director who could get away with that was David Lynch, but he also had so much more to say and his Hollywood-focused films were so much deeper than the typical navel gazing bullshit in that specific niche genre. Under the Silver Lake is a movie I wish I could unsee. Ironically another film that people seem to love, but where I'm just over here like: okay Hollywood, don't gas yourself to death with all that farthuffing.
I don't think you read what I wrote, my friend. Me hating one of his movies doesn't mean his entire filmography isn't for me. I have enjoyed the vast majority of his films, believe it or not. I just really hated that one.
And as for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, it's not because he made it that I don't care to watch it, it's because I don't like Hollywood movies about Hollywood. I find most of them to be pretentious, navel gazing and deeply uninteresting.
It kinda is navel gazing though. Sort of like how Inglorious Basterds (which I would recommend) is alternate history about some violent dudes killing bad guys, the Hollywood movie is like that... except Hollywood.
So instead of Brad Pitt playing a bad ass that kills Hitler, it's Brad Pitt playing a bad ass killing the Manson family cultists before they do those murders. Maybe the implication is that Roman Polanski wouldn't have become a child rapist if that happened? There's some kind of implication that 70s Hollywood was awesome until the Manson family ruined everything.
Anyway, it's basically like Inglorious Basterds, but Hollywood. Definitely one of Tarantino's weaker movies, maybe better than Hateful 8 (seemed more like a stage play to me) but not by much. Unless, like Tarantino, you get off on women showing off their dirty feet while watching 70s movies, you can probably give it a miss.
Of all Tarantino films Pulp Fiction and Once Upon A Time In Hollywood are the only two I can stand. All others either devolve into violence that makes no sense for the characters involved, or there will be a shot that you know he was aching to make and lazily contrives some bullshit reason for it to occur.
A perfect example of the second point is the scene in the projection room in Inglorious Basterds. You can almost hear him having a wank in the background he's so pleased with himself. Really off-putting.
This was me with "One Battle after another", it was not incomprehensible rather the opposite, it was very simple. Don't get me wrong I don't think the movie is bad or anything but for such hype created I was expecting it to be a bit more revolutionary. It also doesn't help that you need to watch DeCaprio shouting Viva la revolución
I really like Bugonia, Code 3 and Roofman from the recent movies I watched. Bugonia is a little confusing but it's still easy to get it's message. The other two are quite simple but the opposite of boring.
Paul Thomas Anderson has dug a hole for himself. He really can't do better than his previous work so he necessarily has to do worse. Licorice Pizza was also not great. I haven't seen One Battle yet but the vibe around it and trailers made me realize it's probably a mess or at least marketed poorly.
Noooooough how could youuuuuu? XD
It’s okay, it’s not for everyone. Personally it is one of my all time favorite movies, but I 1000% understand how and why some people think it’s some weird bs.
To each his own, but I found it to be pretentious crap. It comes off as though the entire script was "HERE IS THE MESSAGE DID YOU GET THE MESSAGE HA HA AREN'T WE SO SMART"
Lol sorry I thought I was replying to a comment about another movie 😅🫣 I've been moving house so I'm a bit sleep deprived.
But yeah, that is totally fair. It's hard to completely avoid pretentiousness when you make weird experimental movies.
Mulholland Drive is also a funny case because if I remember correctly, it was originally supposed to be a TV series with ties to Twin Peaks but they ended up making rewrites to have it be the story it is now. Parts of the movie is a bit out of the blue and nonsensical because they are leftover scenes from when it was a different story with way more time to explore the plot.
You may also be a lot more clever than me, because the first several times I saw it I didn't really understand what it was about at all, just that it made me feel a certain way and that I liked that I felt entirely stuck in a fever dream.
Wasn't until I rewatched it recently as an adult that I understood the story much better and what the point of it all was and yeah, I can see how that can be an annoying experience if you catch it all in the first watch and as a result become annoyed with it.
Btw, what's a movie you'd recommend? I'm always hunting for movies I haven't seen or heard of and word of mouth tends to land me better results than the pre-approved lists on official website lol.
I hope you have a wonderful weekend, my friend. Sorry if you saw my initial message and was confused af. I'll go sleep now, lol.
I was a young adult when Mulholland came out, not sure if I "got" it now that I'm thinking about it.
As for recommendations, I've been on a big horror movie kick for a couple of months and was completely caught off guard with how good both Talk To Me and Bring Her Back were. I highly recommend both unless Aussie accents give you misophonia, because that's literally the only reason I can think of that anyone wouldn't enjoy them.
For me, I think the biggest "wow" moment I had when I watched it as an adult was when I understood that this was basically a metoo movie before metoo was even a thing. I have some issues with that movement and how it has been used by some people, but no one can deny that the industry is incredibly oppressive and exploitative of young talent. That's just the surface level. Further down it's also just a very thorough and tragic character study of Diane who is a very complex character. I always end up feeling deeply sad when the movie ends. All those hopes and dreams and optimism, entirely crushed by the nature of the industry and by the deep, selfish flaws in Diane's and Rita's characters.
But again, I don't demand everyone to feel what I feel or see what I see xD I could be totally wrong about this film, but I have yet to have a sitting with Mulholland Drive, where these deep emotions of sorrow didn't well up in me. I don't know how Lynch did it, because this type of Hollywood-centric movie should by all means repulse me as most movies about Hollywood does. But maybe it's because it takes such an empathetic and honest look and how the industry chews up and spits out people who have big dreams and big egos, yet aren't at all prepared for the reality they are going to face when entering an industry that sells dreams and delivers nightmares.
Oh man, I love the racka racka brothers!! I too was super thrilled about Talk To Me despite it making cringe-inducing moments of suspense that made it so hard for me to look at the screen. The foot sucking scene for example made every cell in my body cringe in discomfort and I could barely look at it. My boyfriend joked that I barely saw the film haha. I recently bought Bring Her Back on bluray, actually! We tried watching it one evening but I had to turn it off because I just wasn't in the right mind space to watch it. I cannot remember the last time a director (in this case two) have made me this scared of watching their movies. It's actually kinda thrilling and I look forward to the day when I have the mental strength to finish Bring Her Back because I really like the set up, acting and camera work in it so far. I just know that, that creepy kid is gonna to some fucked up shit and that the Racka Racka brothers are a little too skilled at making body horror, so yeah. I need me some balls to get through it haha.
Oh and no I don't mind Aussie accents at all xD I find them endearing.
If you're still into horror stuff and cringe inducing body horror is something you like, I will also recommend the 1981 horror movie Possession. There is a particularly fucked up scene in a tunnel that is absolutely iconic in horror and has been homaged in more recent horror movies too, though right now, I don't remember specific examples. I just know that I have seen some recent films that very obviously and heavily referenced this movie. The lead actress suffered with mental health issues years after this performance. It was really upsetting to her.
I can look through my horror movie lists in case you're interested in getting a few recommendations yourself! :D if not, then I completely understand as well 🤗
Possession has been on the backlog of "spooky season" movies for my wife and me for a couple of years now, we just haven't gotten around to it. I will definitely check it out at some point. And I'm always open to recommendations!
It's my opinion on Citizen Kane, and I'll die on that hill. It's just... fine. Nothing extra.
I can understand that I could have been something novel and groundbreaking back then, but calling it the best movie ever made in our time is just beyond me.
Fun fact: it was written and directed by one of the baby faced murderers in the American version of Funny Games.
I really liked The Brutalist, but I don’t blame you for not vibing with it. If you want to, can I ask you what about it you didn’t like/get? I’m just curious to hear your perspective! 🤗
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yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 236d
See, I find, that "critically acclaimed" and "popular" usually don't go well together. However, something with just critical acclaim from people I like (and sometimes a Criterion release) tends to be some of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed.
But to the meme's point, Tarkovsky's Solaris was boring, and hard to understand for me, so much so I didn't ever finish it. I'll have to try again maybe from a different perspective.
otacon239@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 236d
I actually enjoyed Solaris a ton for its pacing. It’s controversial understandably, but it felt like the story was moving at a real world pace, rather than the modern approach of one moment of action to the next.
It’s a slow burn, for sure and I wouldn’t say it’s for everyone.
melisdrawing@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 235d
I had a really hard time getting through Solaris, but the ending with the rain is burned into my soul. Sometimes the slog is important in order to feel the meaning.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 9 pts · 236d
Read the book. Seriously, Lem's depictions of all things alien are orders of magnitude better than any movie - even modern CGI - can be. (I watched the Tarkovsky movie after reading the book and wasn't impressed either)
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 235d
You are supposed to be bored. His films are contemplative. They are also very Russian.
Stalker is even better/worse.
yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 231d
I really do appreciate art, but like anything meaningful, such things usually deserve more time to appreciate. I'll come around to it with time.
Naz@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 235d
Spoiler for the OP:
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler The planet is an alien organism that grants wishes.
All the subconscious thoughts of the people on the space station Solaris come true, their fears, and anxieties as well. :::
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 236d
KPop Demon Hunters came out this year.
It sounds like a cheesy kids' movie. It even kinda looks like one. Or, at least, before it got super popular when everybody realised "hey, this movie is actually really good" and started playing the soundtrack nonstop between viewings. And not just little kids, middle-aged people like it, too. I've been watching and loving movies for about 40 years, and I remember seeing Mortal Kombat (1995) in theaters, and being just floored by that opening. Cheesy yes, but techno music with sound bytes from the game (the Super NES/Genesis game!) while flames roasted the dragon logo? Movie intros usually aren't that cool. Movies aren't meant to be a thrill ride. They play the long con. KPop Demon Hunters was the first one in a long time (I guess 30 years) that gave me the same feeling. I felt it when the first song hit. Then the scenes with the light flashing in the plane windows. I knew I was in for one hell of a ride. I've seen it four or five times now, and it doesn't get old. It may not be good like a Scorcese or Tarantino movie, but it's fun, and that's good. It's more fun than all the recent-ish Star Wars movies. I remember when those were fun. Someone lost the memo.
Movies don't have to be good if they're fun. A lot of people liked Minecraft, Five Nights at Freddy's, The Emoji Movie... I haven't seen any of them. But KPop Demon Hunters looked pretty stupid, too, until I gave it a chance. If a movie makes you forget about the bad shit in the world for a couple hours, it's done its job. Let's stop asking much more than that from movies. Sure, I have a niche I absolutely love (smart/weird flicks like I Origins, Predestination, Donnie Darko... even if they're pseudo-intellectual, if I can dig into it, I love that shit) but a fun dumb movie is cool in my books.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 11 pts · 236d
Never underestimate entertainment value. All art is also always part entertainment. Never forget that.
Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 236d
Well shit. I might just have to watch Kpop hunters. I kept seeing it but I didn't care enough to look into it.
I know the exact feeling with watching Mortal Kombat because I watched it in the theaters and thought it was great.
"Your soul is mine.". Cutt to techno music 🎵🎶🎵🎵🎶
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 235d
Kpop Demon Hunters initially looks like a girlie movie that was shoehorned into being an action flick.
It's a drama, interspersed with enough comedy and action to make you forget that it's a drama. The story isn't anything special, but it has well-done emotional beats backed by a soundtrack that elevates it. It is absolutely worth watching. (And the animation is fantastic.)
Don't go into it expecting a cinematic masterpiece; it's made for kids. It is also, however, a kid's movie that is intended to entertain the adults who take their kids to see it.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 236d
Choose your might
P1nkman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
I watched it with my wife. I can see how it became popular, especially the music, but it's not for me. I didn't like the movie due to the music.
The animation, however... I'm honestly excited for the sequel JUST for the animation!
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 235d
We compare the slop of the present to the masterpieces of the past because we don't remember the slop of the past.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 235d
Survivorship bias but with movies
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 235d
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 235d
Any you'll forget about it in about two or three years.
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 235d
Isn't that what they said Movies would do to you in the 30s?
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 235d
What, you think that's a new thing? You think people weren't dumb fucks in the 1930s? The 1830s? The 1730s? Human life is temporary, mass idiocy is eternal.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
they were even dumber back then, i know it's hard to believe but it's true
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 235d
The height of cinema was once a 12 second clip of a train coming towards you. There's always been dumb shit.
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 31 pts · 236d
I'll try to be generous to your meme but it's hard. I'll say I used to be like that, part of the majority who thought going to a movie meant it needed to have action, a superhero, or magic. It gets tiring and repetitive though.
A recent example was train dreams. Me 10 years ago would have called it a snore fest. Now? I have much more respect for movies and it ripped me up inside. So this meme is very subjective on the individual
makyo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 236d
Same. If I see people complaining about a movie being slow and boring 9/10 times I’ll love it
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 236d
Train Dreams was awesome
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
For me, there's 3 reasons to watch movies. 1 is to kill time because I'm bored while being too tired to do anything that requires real attention. That's mostly been replaced by YouTube. The second is because I want to experience a good piece of art. And the third is for a fun experience.
If I'm going to a theater, it's gonna he for a big, splash film with gorgeous visuals. I ain't paying 15-20 dollars a person for a slow, contemplative film I could enjoy at home.
At the same time, when I'm by myself at home, I'm not really into the flashy stuff, because fun is something to share with friends and family. So that's when I watch the deeper stuff.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 2 pts · 235d
Same, if I'm spending my time I need more than the predictable super hero plot, I want something with character and heart. It's hard to find but it is out there.
For theaters there are smaller indie ones that do play big titles. Search out your local area to find what may be around you. Those are the ones worth giving your money to. I just won't go to AMC or Cinemark anymore on my own because of how low quality it is
OshaqHennessey@midwest.social · 26 pts · 235d
This happens a lot with old movies.
A film comes out that's revolutionary, so every film after it copies it. Future eyes lack that context, so they just see something that looks like everything else they've seen.
Citizen Kane is a good example. The writing, editing, and cinematography were revolutionary at the time. But, through a modern lens, it appears very ordinary because it's very similar to every copycat that followed it.
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 24 pts · 235d
It's not just you, my friend.
Among many movies, I felt that way about Killers of the Flower Moon and it literally took me to fall into a random convo with the girl who cleans my office at work before I found a like-minded individual.
That movie and The Irishman were piss, but everybody insists they are masterpieces because Scorsese made them. Scorsese is just like James Cameron and Fancis Ford Coppola where they have reached an age and are so accomplished that they have lost touch with the world and are surrounded by yes men who don't dare tell them no. And so they make very long and very shitty movies that are more for themselves than they are for anybody else. At least, Cameron is able to make his avatar slop entertaining while you're watching it even if it is forgettable af.
Killers of the Flower Moon was particularly infuriating for me because it was so clearly just Scorsese making yet another movie about white men who are shitty, while pushing the native Americans off to the wayside as supporting casts in the movie that was supposed to be about them.
I read the book too because people kept telling me my opinion was wrong and that this was a good movie that is very faithful to the book. Well, clearly every person who claimed this, did not read the book because the book very much stays with the native Americans and their perspective and the case is treated the way it normally would when you have a conspiracy/murder mystery. You get invested in this people, you fear for them and the revelations are horrible.
Scorsese was like: how about we make the movie entirely about the bad guys and we have no reveals ever because we are told exactly what and how things happen from the start and treat the native Americans like they are ignorant, brain dead idiots who fall for the easiest trick in the book? Yeah, let's do that. Let's make the natives stupid and naive and have the conmen be super obviously evil and gross too, to the point that we don't understand how any of these native Americans could have ever called them friend or family. Let's race swap the only nice white man in the movie too. He was native American in real life,, but for whatever reason they made him white in the movie. I still don't know why they did that. I thought this was supposed to be authentic to real life. We do not race swap historical figures. I thought we all agreed that it was dumb when they made Anne Boleyn black. It's also dumb when we make a native American man white in a movie about how white men committed systematic murders on native Americans to get their money.
Oh, let's also make the movie 4 hours long and throw a temper tantrum when cinemas around the world implement intermissions so that movie goers have a chance to pee and get refreshments. No no, this slop is ART and Scorsese-manchild wants you to sit through all 4 hours of his slop because it's his movie.
Piss movie. I hated it so much and nobody agreed with me until I spoke to my cleaning lady who completely understood where I was coming from.
The book is so much better. Such a well crafted blueprint for a suspenseful movie or TV show about a horrific chapter in native American history and how oil money attracts all the predators and vultures in the world to eat you and your family until nothing is left. Not even bone fragments.
But no. Scorsese cannot make movies from any other perspective than that of white men with corrupt souls so, sorry, native Americans. You gotta be supporting casts in your own friggin story.
Amazing. Piss movie. It riles me up everytime I think about it and it riles me up even more how much undeserved praise it recieved. Piss. Movie.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 235d
Scorsese thinks if you fire editors and shit out 3 hours of film it's an epic.
tetris11@feddit.uk · -3 pts · 235d
Thought it was good. I missed much of the hype before and after and went in blind.
I think your anger is directed more at your expectations of it (a.k.a the ad/hype machine) than the film itself
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 235d
I didn’t follow the hype. All I knew about the movie before going into it was that Scorsese had rewritten the script because he realized he had made a movie about white men and forgotten the native Americans. To which I now ask: what the fuck was the script like before?
I’m glad that you liked it, but please don’t make assumptions about me disliking it because I supposedly fell for a hype train. That is not what happened.
tetris11@feddit.uk · -1 pts · 235d
From your long drawn out text that goes into Scorcese's filmography, I assumed you were well informed of his upcoming works and watching something because of a script re-write tends to lend itself a sense of expectation.
I think you might be plugged into the hype machine more than you might allow yourself to believe
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 235d
Ah, you’re one of those people.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 235d
Yeah, I tend to heckle the soapboxers. It's a hobby.
Especially those who can't have a civil discussion without downvoting anyone who disagrees with them out of a deep insecurity of being challenged on anything, no matter how small.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 16 pts · 236d
I liked that sci-fi movie where they poked a rocket at the moon. After that it all went downhill.
Seriously, your meme is too broad. Always happy to complain about something specific though.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 236d
Fun fact: there's a recently-ish restored copy of ‘Le voyage dans la lune’ that was hand-colored way back in the day. And the band Air made a soundtrack for it. It was on YouTube, but apparently gotten copyright-struck by someone, and the viewer is advised to be wary of the multitude of AI colorations when looking for a new upload.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 236d
This is usually where le pirate is more reliable. Thanks for the tip.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 236d
You're right, the warm ports have the blu-ray with not only the colored and soundtracked version, but also a b&w version with an English narration written by Melies, and another with actors voicing the characters as performed in the US in 1903.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 236d
For me it's Gravity (the one with Sandra Bullock crying in space) and the last two Nolan Batman films. I just don't understand why people like them so much.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 3 pts · 235d
Nah man, see... you didn't watch it right.
First time I saw Gravity I was high as fuck on edibles and watched it on 42" plasma screen.
Shit was like the best 90 minute theme park ride of my life lmao
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 2 pts · 235d
Also, the part where
::: spoiler spoiler George Clooney jumpscares you by inexplicably returning from space and popping open the hatch to the spaceship :::
blew my goddamn mind ahaha
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
I watched it on my 120" 3D projector (while also high as fuck) and still hated the film.
Weed and a giant screen couldn't save that shitshow of a film.
TBi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 236d
Are you including the dark knight there? I though that was the best of the three.
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 2 pts · 235d
2 is the best of the trilogy. 1 was just OK and 3 had its moments but failed to capture the spirit of 1 and 2.
“Death by exile” was pretty funny though.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 236d
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 233d
See this is what I'm saying. Everyone praises Dark Knight, so I went in all excited to see what the hype was about, only to leave the film thinking "this is it"?
It's not a bad movie, per se; I think the problem is that the hype had set my expectations sky high, and I don't think it could ever live up to expectations, no matter how good it was. But honestly just about every scene that didn't have Heath Ledger in it had me falling asleep on the couch. The cinematography was good (especially the IMAX shots) but I just wasn't interested in the plot.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
because it's porn/fan service.
Gravity was a 2 hour 'omg going to die in space' porno.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 235d
"Choke me harder, space vacuum! <3"
FatVegan@leminal.space · 0 pts · 235d
I'm here with the nolan movies, but i thought the first one was the weakest of them. And by weak i mean it was pretty ass.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
lol Batman Begins is the only one of the three I like
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 236d
I watched "Hugo" because it was so critically acclaimed. It had all the awards. Critics loved it.....
Most boring, pretentious, film-school self-masturbatory slog I've ever watched.
The plot was either boring or incoherent. There a boy in a train station? And now there's a steampunk robot who... draws movies or something? And some old dude in a shitty apartment has a bunch of obscure history films? What tf are we doing? And the robot is magic now?
The only reason it got high marks is so every critic to wax themselves about how bigbrain cultured they are. The totally got all the niche nods/ode/references and it totally justified their bullshit college degrees.....
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 236d
You watched a children's adventure comedy movie and surprised it's a but nonsensical? Unless the critics sold it as something it's not, I think this one is in you 😄
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 7 pts · 236d
I saw bits when a flatmate watched it and it was not being treated like a movie aimed at children. Looked dull as dishwater.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 235d
right? like... it's a kids movie. it's not a biopic or art film. the hell is OP going on about?
Zanathos@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 236d
Frankenstein was pretty damn good imo.
Buffy@libretechni.ca · 10 pts · 236d
It was, and that is one of the worst movies I've seen from Guillermo Del Toro IMO. If you enjoyed his adaptation of Frankenstein, you're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth or The Devil's Backbone. Depends on if you're okay watching subtitled, though.
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 236d
Or motherfucking Pacific Rim. That movie is literally just "big robot go boom" and it's fuckin awesome.
Crimson Peak was pretty meh imo. The visuals were interesting, and I liked the designs of the ghosts.
I haven't watched Frankenstein yet but I want to. Stupid Netflix.
Zanathos@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 236d
I'll admit I haven't seen Pan's yet and I will be watching it this Friday after remembering about it. My first child was born in 2019 which is probably why it fell off my list.
I really enjoyed his adaption of Pinocchio a couple years ago.
I did watch Chronos yesterday for the first time, and while it's quite dated now the overall premise and story still stands out to some degree.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 236d
Pan's Labyrinth and Devil's Backbone are both really good. Much better than Cronos imo (which was also pretty good)
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 236d
Pan’s Labyrinth is soooo fuckin good. And brutal.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
it was very pretty, but it was weak otherwise. i really expected more compelling storytelling from him.
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 235d
Don't forget Pinocchio. In my opinion, that is the best Del Toro movie. Practically flawless and it is a crime that Netflix didnt put it in cinemas and that they refuse to put it on DVD or bluray. Fuck them for real.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 236d
While watching Frankenstein I realized I was seeing what will be a classic movie. Not sure I've ever felt that during a show.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 236d
Damn you must be old by now.
Buffy@libretechni.ca · 3 pts · 236d
It took me an embarrassing amount of time to understand the joke.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 0 pts · 236d
I thought the cgi was pretty lackluster for a 2014 movie. Looked like a ps2 cutscene at times. But I still enjoyed it. The werewolves were hot.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 236d
Not sure if joke or just missing the 2025 Del Toro version that came out on Netflix...
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 236d
i don't even know if i'm joking anymore honestly
Zanathos@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 236d
I think this short video may blow your mind then - https://youtu.be/ezncotSdXDQ.
The Creature actor also took 10-12 hours in makeup each day for shooting. https://youtu.be/Z1zX34F5jvs
xyzzy@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 236d
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 236d
Brokeback Mountain
The recent adaptation of Dickens with Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds. Interesting, but they could've cut about 30% of the singing. It got to be repetitive, and it's not like I dislike musicals.
There are many, but I tend to automatically forget them - I'm not wasting space in my brain for that crap.
Now, of course, you're going to tell me why I'm wrong about these movies. Save it.
xyzzy@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 236d
tyler@programming.dev · -2 pts · 236d
Gone Girl. Most boring, predictable, lazy ass movie. The Postman is by far the worst movie I’ve ever seen. Tootsie, I can’t imagine a more problematic way to make a movie. One Battle After Another was good, but nowhere near good enough to win any awards which it definitely will win.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 2 pts · 236d
I love The Postman. It's not an amazing film but it has its own identity and I really appreciate that.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 236d
I liked One Battle After Another but it’s definitely a kid-tier PTA. I watched it pretty shortly after Magnolia, There Will Be Blood, and Punch-Drunk Love, though… so the bar was very high. Magnolia was so much better than I expected, it was amazing.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 236d
Really? Magnolia was fine. Far from his best film imo
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 8 pts · 236d
I feel this way about Synecdoche, New York, with the caveat that I understand it but just think it's hot garbage.
classic@fedia.io · 7 pts · 236d
I recently watched it for the first time and loved it. The disjointed flow of it worked for me as a mechanism to immerse in an experience of a person's life. Like a speedrun. The themes - including never really launching into life, seeking to but never really connecting with others except post-facto, struggling to understand and metabolize losses, breaching out of the self - all resonated with me so that helped.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 1 pts · 236d
I watched a trailer that seemed to pitch it as an absurd comedy, which on reflection is an extremely weird approach.
The themes made sense to me, I just had no desire to endure the repeated misery and alienation of it. I mean, it's definitely art, I simply find it very ugly. It can be ugly on purpose all it likes, I still find it repulsive.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 236d
So you didn't even finish the movie? Or did I misread
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 1 pts · 235d
I watched the trailer before watching the film.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 235d
I was referring to the part about having no desire to continue
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 1 pts · 235d
I've sat through a lot of things that I didn't enjoy in my life!
In this case it was my optimistic nature hoping that eventually there would be something I felt was worthwhile. Alas, no, it was just a post-modern miseryfest, from my perspective.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 236d
I only saw this movie once but it still sticks with me. It was such a weird experience that simultaneously hit super hard and was also empty, vapid nothing.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 2 pts · 236d
That sounds a lot like my experience. It's memorable but felt like it had nothing to say.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 1 pts · 236d
Yeah I can always complain about something specific. I think this one was mentioned as "must see cult classic", so I watched it a bit but just couldn't go through. Something about large factory halls filled with people?
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 1 pts · 236d
It's post modern, something The Simpsons summed up as "weird for the sake of weird". It's a smidge more complex than that but all I can say it left me with was a deep-seated annoyance at its pretentious existence.
egrets@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 236d
I've got very little time for Charlie Kaufman. I quite liked Eternal Sunshine, but I generally find his stuff pretentious and get a vibe of smugness. That might be unfair -- I guess I'm just not the target audience.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 236d
Adaptation is great imo
exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 236d
I think his films are just very specific in taste. If you fall into his specific target demographoc the movie is amazing. But it can also depend on the day or it depends strongly on things one has heard about it beforehand. When I first watched Eternal Sunshine I was incredibly awake. There were so many things and strange details that didn't make sense that my brain was working hard to make sense of it. Later everything clicked and fell into place in an awesome way. I absolutely loved it.
But I know so many people who didn't like it one bit.
His other movies are also that way. My other favourite: Adaptation. I didn't like the Netflix one. Or didn't understand it or didn't care. Don't know.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 235d
I'm bitter and old, AND movies have gotten worse. All those things are true.
I have better now luck with TV shows. Currently, Pluribus is good.
I'm on here now, because I couldn't find anything to watch tonight. I'm hoping One Battle After Another is good, we'll see. Often, I turn off a new movie less than 15 minutes in.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 235d
I watched Point Break last night for the second time. Great film. Very unaware of how gay it is though, and I wonder what 90s mainstream audiences thought of it
_Nico198X_@europe.pub · 3 pts · 235d
we just thought it was an awesome, underrated bro movie. bro as in brothers and male relationships.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 235d
A lot of male asses being shown, and guys who hold eye gazes longer than can be deemed non-romantic.
Also "young, dumb, and full of cum" isn't something you typically say to a new hot shot. You say they're "full of spunk".
Edit: Oh shit, it's all been gay all along. The whole damn english language!
_Nico198X_@europe.pub · 4 pts · 235d
full of spunk is a bit outdated of a phrase, but it still checks out.
it's art, you're welcome to interpret it how you like! i'm just saying, i was there, that's how we interpreted it. since you asked.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 235d
Oh absolutely, it's a great film! Just watching with a modern lens kind of makes you miss that innocence in filmwriting where macho hotshots "testing" each other comes across now more like closeted bromances than what was perhaps intended.
I kind of feel like a modern remake would lose that bromance edge, and would turn it more into a standard action film which would ruin the magic of the original.
_Nico198X_@europe.pub · 3 pts · 235d
there is a remake, and i think that's what happened XD
tetris11@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 235d
I weep, why remake a perfect film 🥲
JillyB@beehaw.org · 8 pts · 236d
A few of my friends recommended Eraserhead. It felt like David Lynch was seeing what he could get away with.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 236d
Eraserhead isn’t a movie to be enjoyed, it’s a movie to be regretted, for the rest of your life….
fun fact: that’s a real horse embryo
angrystego@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 236d
Another fun fact: it was based on Lynch's feelings of becoming a father to a baby with deformed feet. His daughter's feet are ok now, they have a good relationship and she became a film director too!
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 7 pts · 235d
I absolutely love David Lynch, but Eraserhead is not the first, second nor third Lynch movie I would put on at any given time. I love the radiator girl segment in the film. The rest is forgettable.
I'm more of a Mulholland Drive fangirl. It is one of the best movies ever made in my humble opinion.
Someone also mentioned Elephant Man which is likewise a stellar movie.
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 236d
That's just David Lynch, no?
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 236d
You'd think so, but then he makes The Elephant Man and The Straight Story. Both pretty grounded and simple to follow scripts with not too much Lynchness to them. I honestly don't know what to make of Lynch.. he was a man of contrast.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 236d
I saw someone suggest The Elephant Man as the best way to introduce someone to Lynch, and after watching it, I totally get it. Amazing film.
Unfortunately, it's next to impossible to find these days and I was only able to watch it after finding a torrent.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
These are my two favorite films of his. I'm not much of a Lynch fan though, so I think it tells.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 1 pts · 235d
Yooooooooooooooo, I have been saying this shit for years.
I hate that movie so goddamned much and the recommendation felt like a friend group initiation prank hahaha
Zorque@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 236d
Hey now, Crash came out like twenty years ago.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 235d
Spielberg's A.I. Artificial Intelligence.
Mostly I just wondered why the movie was made in the first place. Sure, examining the tragedy of creating an intelligent being that cannot mature and cannot let go of emotional attachments by design is interesting... but the meandering, pointless story had like three places it could have ended and just ..... didn't, finally topping it off with a 'bittersweet' ending that seemingly had no purpose besides to give some catharsis to the audience despite being so out of left field that it had no relation to the rest of the story. It could have been an art book showing off the scenery instead of bothering to throw an aimlessly wandering robot child into it.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 235d
It was a movie that Kubrick and Spielberg both thought the other guy would be able to make it work. So they passed it back and forth. The scenes you think Kubrick came up with, were actually things Spielberg came up with and vice versa. "Here's a scene you'd be the perfect director to make, you should direct this movie!" So it's a mix between what Spielberg thought Kubrick should do and what Kubrick thought Spielberg should do.
Neither of them could make it work. But Kubrick died and Spielberg felt he had to finish it. It's an interesting movie to see what each director wanted the other director to do, but it's not a great movie to just sit and enjoy as a movie.
FoD@startrek.website · 4 pts · 235d
I still like the movie although it is definitely a movie I have to be in a mood for. However, after I watch the ending I realize I want the future people and technology to be a movie.
It wpuld be more interesting to reimagine the film as future archeologists discovering this story but maybe not getting it exactly right based only on artifacts. More like short stories being told through the film. It would have had the same message, characters and locations, but would have been more focused as the stories they showed would have had to be ultra relevant to the plot. Not sure if any of this makes sense.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 3 pts · 235d
This is a great idea, actually.
FoD@startrek.website · 1 pts · 234d
It's one of those "the right story but told the wrong way" movies. We need a fan edit!
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
Watched it when it was released, completely forgot about it.
Saw it mentioned on a podcast, watched it again about two weeks ago. I can barely remember it now. The "I see dead people" kid, Jude Law, and Teddy Ruxpin look for a statue? Yeah, that sounds right.
When it was mentioned on the podcast, I mistook it for I, Robot. That's how much I'd forgotten about the movie.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
How was the ending out of left field? Feel like it was culminating to that point. But I agree with you the ending WASN'T necessary. Just a nice bow.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 234d
Instead of a tragic - but sensible - ending, magical aliens showed up after Earth was kaput, and gave him what he wanted. There is nothing to tie this ending to the rest of the plot besides the main character, no agency involved in its happening, no nothing. It's unsatisfying. It's a deus ex machina, and not the good kind.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
THAT I agree with but it makes sense in that the boy ironically became human through his use of emotion and experience. I would've preferred the bitter sweet ending. Sometimes being human IS living a life of tragedy. But they couldn't leave that little boy at the bottom of the ocean, I get that also. Idk 🤷♂️ seems thematic just a little to "disney" fir me.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 234d
Although I agree that they couldn't just end it at the bottom of the ocean, if it were written better it could have had an ending that actually tied into the rest of the story, rather than what it wound up with. The whole thing just felt like a lot of missed opportunities.
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 236d
I watch very few movies but when I do, my opinon of it generally the opposite of the critic's review on Rotten Tomatoes.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 236d
II hate bitching about RT scores but some of them are just staggering to me.
28 years later is one of the worst movies I have ever seen and it is highly rated on RT.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 1 pts · 236d
IMDB's aren't better. I had noticed at least one movie that had pretty bad ratings despite being pretty good - the only movie adaptation of a Carl Hiaasen novel, which does the novel full justice imho. I guess the haters were disappointed Demi Moore fans?
And it's usually pretty predictable what sort of stuff gets the really high ratings; anything from 8.0 upwards has to be filtered for fandom.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 236d
IMDB’s are worse.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 236d
This was Everything Everywhere All At Once for me. Normally I'm pretty easy to please but this one fell completely flat
FatVegan@leminal.space · 12 pts · 235d
I liked the movie, but people sold it as this incredibly weird and awesome masterpiece. I think my expectations were just way too high.
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 236d
To be fair, part of the premise of that movie is to immerse yourself in absurd ideas in parallel universes... for reasons. So it's not surprising that it gets confusing.
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 235d
See, I didn’t hate it because it was confusing, I hated it because it felt boring and cringy. Once you get over the initial genre hopping whiplash, it’s just more generic action tropes and multiverse nonsense that had already been done to death by the time that movie came out. At the insistence of the people I was watching with, I admittedly didn’t make it past the expository bagel scene, but once I got the pulse that it was a slice-of-life drama and John Wick thrown in a blender with Rick and Morty, I didn’t mind turning it off, and I usually hate not finishing movies.
Donkter@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 235d
I kind of agree that's what I never really got about it. It's not mind bending. It's a classic example of movie snobs having never considered that sci-fi could be art and getting confused when the movie asks the audience to make the slightest leap in imagination.
The thing I did like about it a lot is that it's a very rare movie, especially an action flick, in which the main character is a 40+ year old woman who actually gets a character arc. That was cool.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 235d
The ending is fairly relevant to the quality of the movie
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 235d
Noted. I’ll give the rest of it a shot sometime.
Thunderbird4@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 234d
Alright, I got around to finishing it sooner than I expected.
Fully agree: the second half of the movie does actually go somewhere with all the nonsense. The character development is fantastic, and the sci-fi actually is used as a creative way to explore self worth and interpersonal relationships.
I stand by my frustration with what comes across as gratuitous, dated feeling humor and tropes (Scott Pilgrim, Rick and Morty, “so random! XD” Internet culture), but it definitely has a lot more depth and substance than I was ready to give it credit for.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
Wow that was fast lol
I'm glad you liked the second half. I generally agree with your assessment that it has a lot of lol XD so random stuff in it, but I think the later parts of the movie do a good job of justifying that thematically by bringing up the idea that meaningless randomness is inherent in a multiverse, or at least that finding it meaningless is a common way of dealing with a multiverse.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 235d
The gimmick was gimmicky, sure - and they made sure to do it as gimmicky as possible, all part of its charm.
Its staying power was in the unique story of a mother pulling her daughter away from the precipice of spiralling self-destruction by opening her heart and mind to new ideas and breaking the cycle of generations of cultural abuse.
It genuinely has a wonderful message, and I remember it for that, and less for its action/scifi
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 3 pts · 235d
See, for me that was the appeal.
I feel like a lot of the audience is so media illiterate they didn't get that and instead treated it like some cinematic masterpiece with all these deep messages.
The bagel scene was silly nonsense completely on-par with your metaphor, but it was fun too. Anyone who thinks the bagel has all these deep layers beyond just a quippy scifi joke is the embodiment of the "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" copypasta lmao
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 2 pts · 235d
It's not confusing at all, it's one of the most straightforward and easy to follow plots imo. Would definitely satisfy the "second screen" requirements of most at-home streaming audiences lol
Honestly, maybe that's the real reason it became so popular. Even a child could keep up with it.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 2 pts · 235d
OH MY GOD, THANK YOU.
It's not that I don't like the film, quite the contrary.
I just can't stand that people compare the shit to The Godfather. My impression of these viewers is they walked out of the theater going "I haven't cried that hard since Endgame!!"
It's really, really not that deep. It was fine for what it was, well produced and rather entertaining. But it's a far cry from Citizen Kane or Memento lol
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 1 pts · 235d
Yeah it’s a comedy about relationships. Pass the popcorn.
TheImpressiveX@piefed.social · 6 pts · 236d
We allow memes occasionally. Tagged post under "Humor".
shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol · 11 pts · 236d
That's pretty generous
dil@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 236d
If you wanna watch movies that actually feel like art just watch sexploitation films (whats funny is they are less perverted than most modern pg 13 films) Apparently sexploitation means exploiting the audience by using sex to grab their attention, so like game of thrones, shameless, outlander, even modern family, etc. lol. I always thought it meant the actors got abused or some sht, but they're still alive and that doesn't seem to be the case for the most part.
A lot of them are surreal af and feel like time capsules. Plots super basic, barely any characters, but the scenery is sometimes amazing, like every place they film I want to visit. They are weirdly memorable for their scenes while I could not tell you a single movies name. I think the horniest one ive seen is no where near as horny as modern movies/television that aren't framed as sexploitive.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
they were made in the 70s mostly. cultural standards were very different, and for the time, they were considered deeply offensive and scandalous. they also were made on super low budgets with c list actors and staff. the b movie emerged later from them.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 235d
it's the former, not the latter
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 234d
To expand on that;
Y'all are seeing Survivors Bias / Rose Tinted Glasses in action
The bad movies of the less recent past are forgotten or lost to time, even the over hyped ones.
But we're living in the present, so the bad and over hyped of the recent past is still fresh in our minds, and that paints out perception of "they made better movies in the past"
There was the same or more bad shite, just everyone forgets about it
bytesonbike@discuss.online · 1 pts · 234d
I couldn't stand Ready Player One. Yeah I said it.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 234d
Well yeah, it's shit, but that's beside the point I made.
It's nostalgiabait made by a Redditor for Redditors, and so of course that gave it undeserved hype, when it's well and truly shite.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 236d
Our breakfast television has a movie critic straight out of the feuilleton. Any movie that people actually go to is automatically bad, and there is not enough praise for art house films that makes people fall asleep in the cinema and never even make it to TV or streaming.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 236d
Sounds like the time Ebert of Siskel & Ebert gave Twister a thumbs down because "it had no plot."
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 236d
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
sounds like a good critic.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
Yes, she perfectly recommends what to avoid if you go to the cinema to enjoy yourself.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
some of us go to cinema to feel pain.
UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 236d
I've realised that over time, a lot of my favourite films or ones that I enjoy and basically mainstream blockbusters.
I try to broaden my horizons but quite often, I find these amazing acclaimed films boring.
It's not quite the same but I was amazed when I got the Criterion edition of Armageddon. All these bonus features about a great blockbuster film.
So imagine my disappointment when every other release from Criterion is a film I'll probably never watch in the first place.
Example, I took a chance on Brazil because I was in a bit of a Terry Gilliam phase. I quite enjoyed that one. Then I tried Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. That DVD never got a second play.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 236d
Recently I went on IMDB and created a list of highly fan rated movies from the past 2 years. So far they have been hard to watch.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 236d
IMDb has a ‘top 250’, not sure why you needed to create anything yourself.
Hexarei@beehaw.org · 3 pts · 236d
This is me with most Tarantino films. I watched Pulp Fiction and have no idea what actually happened in that movie.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 236d
That sounds like a you problem. It's really not hard to follow.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 235d
Tarantino films are dense with dialogue and cultural references, but the plot and characters are usually very simple.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 4 pts · 235d
Feet and the n-word
Jhex@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 236d
Really? I understand not liking it, taste is personal and his movies are quirky to say the least... but not understanding the plot? were you on your phone all movie (my wife does this and then complains she got lost). I ask because the plot of pulp fiction could be written in half a page, the only thing complex about it is that it is shown async
IronBird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 235d
"i can't follow the plot"
bitch, put the fucking phone down for longer than 30s and maybe you will
P1nkman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
My wife once asked if we could rewind two minutes, where I told her "Just this once. Will not happen next time you're on the phone during a movie". She never repeated it, but still has to look at her phone many times during movies.
MBech@feddit.dk · 0 pts · 235d
In my experience, when people are on their phone throughout the movie, it's usually a sign that they find the movie incredibly boring. Some people simply don't like watching 2 hours of people talking.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 235d
I CAME FOR ASPLOSIONS.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 235d
I disagree... I have seen so many people, my wife included, not letting the phone down for a good 15-20 minutes after the movie starts, by then, they are already lost so the movie never had a chance
If you find a movie boring, stop it... why ruin it for yourself and all around you by being on the phone throughout the duration of the movie?
IronBird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
"i can't follow the plot"
bitch, put the fucking phone down for longer than 30s and maybe you will
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 235d
I find many of his movies enjoyable, but they definitely is a required taste. The last Tarantino movie I saw was the hateful 8 and I hated that movie so much, so I get where you're coming from. Haven't watched his movie about Hollywood because I cannot bring myself to care about Hollywood people making movies about life in Hollywood. The only Hollywood director who could get away with that was David Lynch, but he also had so much more to say and his Hollywood-focused films were so much deeper than the typical navel gazing bullshit in that specific niche genre. Under the Silver Lake is a movie I wish I could unsee. Ironically another film that people seem to love, but where I'm just over here like: okay Hollywood, don't gas yourself to death with all that farthuffing.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 235d
Time in Hollywood is good, but then if you did like hateful 8 maybe his movies just arent for you
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 235d
I don't think you read what I wrote, my friend. Me hating one of his movies doesn't mean his entire filmography isn't for me. I have enjoyed the vast majority of his films, believe it or not. I just really hated that one.
And as for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, it's not because he made it that I don't care to watch it, it's because I don't like Hollywood movies about Hollywood. I find most of them to be pretentious, navel gazing and deeply uninteresting.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
well, you might like Time in Hollywood then it's more a critique/look behind the curtain kinda movie thing
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 235d
I can give it a watch at some point, for sure.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 235d
It kinda is navel gazing though. Sort of like how Inglorious Basterds (which I would recommend) is alternate history about some violent dudes killing bad guys, the Hollywood movie is like that... except Hollywood.
So instead of Brad Pitt playing a bad ass that kills Hitler, it's Brad Pitt playing a bad ass killing the Manson family cultists before they do those murders. Maybe the implication is that Roman Polanski wouldn't have become a child rapist if that happened? There's some kind of implication that 70s Hollywood was awesome until the Manson family ruined everything.
Anyway, it's basically like Inglorious Basterds, but Hollywood. Definitely one of Tarantino's weaker movies, maybe better than Hateful 8 (seemed more like a stage play to me) but not by much. Unless, like Tarantino, you get off on women showing off their dirty feet while watching 70s movies, you can probably give it a miss.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
the feet are always clean, you animal
dellish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 235d
Of all Tarantino films Pulp Fiction and Once Upon A Time In Hollywood are the only two I can stand. All others either devolve into violence that makes no sense for the characters involved, or there will be a shot that you know he was aching to make and lazily contrives some bullshit reason for it to occur.
A perfect example of the second point is the scene in the projection room in Inglorious Basterds. You can almost hear him having a wank in the background he's so pleased with himself. Really off-putting.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 236d
Guy gets a watch.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 236d
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 236d
This was me with "One Battle after another", it was not incomprehensible rather the opposite, it was very simple. Don't get me wrong I don't think the movie is bad or anything but for such hype created I was expecting it to be a bit more revolutionary. It also doesn't help that you need to watch DeCaprio shouting Viva la revolución
I really like Bugonia, Code 3 and Roofman from the recent movies I watched. Bugonia is a little confusing but it's still easy to get it's message. The other two are quite simple but the opposite of boring.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 236d
How was Bugonia confusing in any way?
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 235d
The end is a a lot to take in. Don't you think? I've also seen a lot of people misunderstand the movie so I cane to that conclusion.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 235d
Paul Thomas Anderson has dug a hole for himself. He really can't do better than his previous work so he necessarily has to do worse. Licorice Pizza was also not great. I haven't seen One Battle yet but the vibe around it and trailers made me realize it's probably a mess or at least marketed poorly.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 235d
Looking at you, Mulholland Drive
Agent641@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 235d
I liked it 😬
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 235d
For the plot, right?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 235d
There was a plot?
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 235d
Noooooough how could youuuuuu? XD It’s okay, it’s not for everyone. Personally it is one of my all time favorite movies, but I 1000% understand how and why some people think it’s some weird bs.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 234d
To each his own, but I found it to be pretentious crap. It comes off as though the entire script was "HERE IS THE MESSAGE DID YOU GET THE MESSAGE HA HA AREN'T WE SO SMART"
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 234d
Lol sorry I thought I was replying to a comment about another movie 😅🫣 I've been moving house so I'm a bit sleep deprived.
But yeah, that is totally fair. It's hard to completely avoid pretentiousness when you make weird experimental movies.
Mulholland Drive is also a funny case because if I remember correctly, it was originally supposed to be a TV series with ties to Twin Peaks but they ended up making rewrites to have it be the story it is now. Parts of the movie is a bit out of the blue and nonsensical because they are leftover scenes from when it was a different story with way more time to explore the plot.
You may also be a lot more clever than me, because the first several times I saw it I didn't really understand what it was about at all, just that it made me feel a certain way and that I liked that I felt entirely stuck in a fever dream.
Wasn't until I rewatched it recently as an adult that I understood the story much better and what the point of it all was and yeah, I can see how that can be an annoying experience if you catch it all in the first watch and as a result become annoyed with it.
Btw, what's a movie you'd recommend? I'm always hunting for movies I haven't seen or heard of and word of mouth tends to land me better results than the pre-approved lists on official website lol.
I hope you have a wonderful weekend, my friend. Sorry if you saw my initial message and was confused af. I'll go sleep now, lol.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 234d
I was a young adult when Mulholland came out, not sure if I "got" it now that I'm thinking about it.
As for recommendations, I've been on a big horror movie kick for a couple of months and was completely caught off guard with how good both Talk To Me and Bring Her Back were. I highly recommend both unless Aussie accents give you misophonia, because that's literally the only reason I can think of that anyone wouldn't enjoy them.
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 234d
For me, I think the biggest "wow" moment I had when I watched it as an adult was when I understood that this was basically a metoo movie before metoo was even a thing. I have some issues with that movement and how it has been used by some people, but no one can deny that the industry is incredibly oppressive and exploitative of young talent. That's just the surface level. Further down it's also just a very thorough and tragic character study of Diane who is a very complex character. I always end up feeling deeply sad when the movie ends. All those hopes and dreams and optimism, entirely crushed by the nature of the industry and by the deep, selfish flaws in Diane's and Rita's characters.
But again, I don't demand everyone to feel what I feel or see what I see xD I could be totally wrong about this film, but I have yet to have a sitting with Mulholland Drive, where these deep emotions of sorrow didn't well up in me. I don't know how Lynch did it, because this type of Hollywood-centric movie should by all means repulse me as most movies about Hollywood does. But maybe it's because it takes such an empathetic and honest look and how the industry chews up and spits out people who have big dreams and big egos, yet aren't at all prepared for the reality they are going to face when entering an industry that sells dreams and delivers nightmares.
Oh man, I love the racka racka brothers!! I too was super thrilled about Talk To Me despite it making cringe-inducing moments of suspense that made it so hard for me to look at the screen. The foot sucking scene for example made every cell in my body cringe in discomfort and I could barely look at it. My boyfriend joked that I barely saw the film haha. I recently bought Bring Her Back on bluray, actually! We tried watching it one evening but I had to turn it off because I just wasn't in the right mind space to watch it. I cannot remember the last time a director (in this case two) have made me this scared of watching their movies. It's actually kinda thrilling and I look forward to the day when I have the mental strength to finish Bring Her Back because I really like the set up, acting and camera work in it so far. I just know that, that creepy kid is gonna to some fucked up shit and that the Racka Racka brothers are a little too skilled at making body horror, so yeah. I need me some balls to get through it haha.
Oh and no I don't mind Aussie accents at all xD I find them endearing.
If you're still into horror stuff and cringe inducing body horror is something you like, I will also recommend the 1981 horror movie Possession. There is a particularly fucked up scene in a tunnel that is absolutely iconic in horror and has been homaged in more recent horror movies too, though right now, I don't remember specific examples. I just know that I have seen some recent films that very obviously and heavily referenced this movie. The lead actress suffered with mental health issues years after this performance. It was really upsetting to her.
I can look through my horror movie lists in case you're interested in getting a few recommendations yourself! :D if not, then I completely understand as well 🤗
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
Possession has been on the backlog of "spooky season" movies for my wife and me for a couple of years now, we just haven't gotten around to it. I will definitely check it out at some point. And I'm always open to recommendations!
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 235d
It was a lot gayer than I thought it'd be.
really liked it but literally said "what the fuck" when it ended
KarfiolosHus@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 234d
It's my opinion on Citizen Kane, and I'll die on that hill. It's just... fine. Nothing extra.
I can understand that I could have been something novel and groundbreaking back then, but calling it the best movie ever made in our time is just beyond me.
Juliebones@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 236d
They've gotten worse
DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 235d
"damn kids get out my lawn"
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
The Brutalist. Sorry, I just didn't get it.
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 235d
Fun fact: it was written and directed by one of the baby faced murderers in the American version of Funny Games. I really liked The Brutalist, but I don’t blame you for not vibing with it. If you want to, can I ask you what about it you didn’t like/get? I’m just curious to hear your perspective! 🤗
dellish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 235d
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 233d
Bird man and the whale come to mind
yessikg@fedia.io · 0 pts · 236d
See it's because most movie critics are bitter old white men, and I'm not
QueenMidna@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 236d
This was me about Skinamarink this week. Felt like a film student's final project
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 0 pts · 235d
The Prestige
Nangijala@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 235d
I always mix that one up with The Illusionist Dx