Actually, it's stupider, the original meth subreddit made rules against posting images of drug use because reddit admins were breathing down their necks, some of the userbase deemed that censorship to be communist because something something 1984. Except, obviously, it was done because advertisers don't want to advertise next to drug use. So it's literally classic Americans calling the negative consequences of capitalism communism
And way less. It’s still a meth community. If I head to a mushroom community, I’ll see mushroom identification and cooking. If I stroll down to the clothing store, I’ll find clothes and accessories.
That Reddit is demanding the ability to advertise to meth addicts but only when they make their space more visually palatable, effectively gentrifying a corrosive community, is just peak capitalism.
How do you know this drama? Like my head is also full of useless internet drama, but this specific drama I feel like requires some origination explanation.
Except, obviously, it was done because advertisers don't want to advertise next to drug use.
Isn't that what the "quarantined subreddit" feature was added for? Advertisers that don't want their ad next to a picture of meth use most likely don't want their ads in a methamphetamine subreddit in general
The cigar sub used to be one of the best communities, then Reddit banned us from trading or even mentioning it. Many users went over to places like slack. In the mean time an idiot became a mod and trashed the community that was left. So a second cigar community was created for the ability to even post pictures and discussions. Neither sub is anything like what made the community so greata few years ago.
No, not "too left wing", just not far right enough for them. The US left wing is the equivalent to right of center in actual developed countries, to put that in to perspective. In other words, the crazy people weren't crazy enough for the ultra crazies.
Jokes aside, you'll find several instances of "normal community" having a "right wing normal community" spin off, it happened in online chat channels, then in forums, now Reddit.
The right's ideology is fundamentally unfit for harmonic co-existing with everybody else, so it's no surprise they always need to isolate themselves in a bunker.
It turns out, when you kick people out of a community for being toxic, racist, or otherwise counterproductive to maintaining a community... they go form a right wing spinoff of that community. I feel like it says a lot that when you kick people out for traits that aren't "being right wing", they form communities around that shared identity.
I think if you're a little less self-congratulatory you'll realise it's often just the same process where everyone thinks the folks on lemmy.ml are a bunch of nutters and congregate to other places.
You might be right about what happened here, but it might also be a load of people who call everything to the right of Bernie Sanders Nazism and were sick of it. Forming spin-off communities is what the fediverse is all about, so why would we criticise those guys for doing it?
I do think the subdivision and compartmentalisation of discourse is a problem, but we sure ain't solving it here in the fediverse lol
They can do whatever they want. I never said they shouldn't create spin-off communities.
I'm well within my right to point, laugh, and recognize the right is so atrocious at harmoniously dealing with differences that they keep creating their bunkers. Simple as that. Go ahead and create whatever community you want, with whatever justification you see fit.
preferably not in the winter, with adequate clothing, and not while fighting a war on another major front….
from what i understand, it helps a lot for a day, and then it hurts a lot if the fighting continues after that….
great for blitzkrieg, bad for war
Yeah and it's not even a stims thing. I've seen progressives down Adderall between shots and do coke. But the one meth user I've known was a queer republican who tried to lie her way into relationships with people.
I'm on a forum for weed users and I'm surprised by how many right wingers are on it. Maybe I'm naive, but I would have thought most right-wingers are against drugs. I guess I tend to forget right-wingers are hypocrites.
It is unfortunate that a great part of the internet enshittified so intensely and rapidly. Spez appears to be a bad person, it is also unfortunate that so many people refuse to migrate to better platforms. Let's not make our whole identities being mad about it.
I have a pet theory that amphetamines are inherently fascist. I'd be surprised if the "normal" meth sub is commie, but knowing what chuds consider communist, it's not surprising that they'd make an even more hard-line sub.
Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine combination is used to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy (uncontrollable desire for sleep or sudden attacks of deep sleep). These two medicines belong to the group of medicines called central nervous system (CNS) stimulants.
I mean, I had (prescribed) adderall for a few months that had me borderline tweaky at my given dosage, but I still remained decidedly not right wing/fascist.
I never thought about it but I had a friend many years back that went on a several months long crystal meth and heroin bender, fell into deep psychosis, was hospitalized, and got clean after a while. He never went back to "normal" and remained much, much more conservative, right wing, and libertarian than he was before he went on the bender. Before that he was basically a militant anarchist.
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bearboiblake@pawb.social · 244 pts · 241d
Actually, it's stupider, the original meth subreddit made rules against posting images of drug use because reddit admins were breathing down their necks, some of the userbase deemed that censorship to be communist because something something 1984. Except, obviously, it was done because advertisers don't want to advertise next to drug use. So it's literally classic Americans calling the negative consequences of capitalism communism
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 115 pts · 241d
Everything conservatives don't like is "communism".
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 241d
That isn't true. They also don't like socialism, which they also define as communism.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 241d
That makes more sense.
Reflect@quokk.au · 55 pts · 241d
And way less. It’s still a meth community. If I head to a mushroom community, I’ll see mushroom identification and cooking. If I stroll down to the clothing store, I’ll find clothes and accessories.
That Reddit is demanding the ability to advertise to meth addicts but only when they make their space more visually palatable, effectively gentrifying a corrosive community, is just peak capitalism.
Hobo@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 241d
How do you know this drama? Like my head is also full of useless internet drama, but this specific drama I feel like requires some origination explanation.
Anivia@feddit.org · 6 pts · 241d
Well, if you browse any of the drug related subreddits on reddit you can't really miss it. Heck, I browse almost only /r/steroids and I knew about it
Anivia@feddit.org · 10 pts · 241d
Isn't that what the "quarantined subreddit" feature was added for? Advertisers that don't want their ad next to a picture of meth use most likely don't want their ads in a methamphetamine subreddit in general
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 241d
The cigar sub used to be one of the best communities, then Reddit banned us from trading or even mentioning it. Many users went over to places like slack. In the mean time an idiot became a mod and trashed the community that was left. So a second cigar community was created for the ability to even post pictures and discussions. Neither sub is anything like what made the community so greata few years ago.
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 240d
Have you thought about restarting it here?
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 240d
No, I don't have time to run a sub. I did that 3 times on Reddit and I'm done with that. I've got to much going on in the real world.
db2@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 241d
No, not "too left wing", just not far right enough for them. The US left wing is the equivalent to right of center in actual developed countries, to put that in to perspective. In other words, the crazy people weren't crazy enough for the ultra crazies.
kadu@scribe.disroot.org · 51 pts · 241d
Jokes aside, you'll find several instances of "normal community" having a "right wing normal community" spin off, it happened in online chat channels, then in forums, now Reddit.
The right's ideology is fundamentally unfit for harmonic co-existing with everybody else, so it's no surprise they always need to isolate themselves in a bunker.
nickhammes@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 241d
It turns out, when you kick people out of a community for being toxic, racist, or otherwise counterproductive to maintaining a community... they go form a right wing spinoff of that community. I feel like it says a lot that when you kick people out for traits that aren't "being right wing", they form communities around that shared identity.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · -13 pts · 241d
Happens with leftists and really all kinds of extremists as well.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 241d
Like how the Donald Duck subreddit got a spinoff called The_Donald
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 241d
Then one of them inevitably opens up a place like this, looking more or less like this....
MTZ@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 241d
Also they did it to punk, emo, goth and metal subcultures through subcultural parasitism.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 241d
Of course they did, because they are incapable of creating anything original and worthwhile
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 240d
And yet they’ll always whine about the left and their safe spaces.
FishFace@piefed.social · 0 pts · 241d
I think if you're a little less self-congratulatory you'll realise it's often just the same process where everyone thinks the folks on lemmy.ml are a bunch of nutters and congregate to other places.
You might be right about what happened here, but it might also be a load of people who call everything to the right of Bernie Sanders Nazism and were sick of it. Forming spin-off communities is what the fediverse is all about, so why would we criticise those guys for doing it?
I do think the subdivision and compartmentalisation of discourse is a problem, but we sure ain't solving it here in the fediverse lol
kadu@scribe.disroot.org · 4 pts · 241d
They can do whatever they want. I never said they shouldn't create spin-off communities.
I'm well within my right to point, laugh, and recognize the right is so atrocious at harmoniously dealing with differences that they keep creating their bunkers. Simple as that. Go ahead and create whatever community you want, with whatever justification you see fit.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 241d
Lemmy will never truly be mainstream until we can have active communities this granular
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 241d
As easy as it is to block & defederate, I doubt most lemmy users would see this stuff even it it existed here.
Tired8281@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 241d
You can never have a meth community here.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 241d
Tell that to a meth head, watch em set up their own instance
Tired8281@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 241d
We tried. The lefties here hate harm reduction and don't want to be anywhere near anyone talking about it.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 241d
Lefties on lemmy.ca cannot prevent you from making your own instance
Tired8281@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 239d
No, but they won't consider federating with you, either. We get to preach to the choir and watch more people die, hurray Lemmy. :(
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 241d
There really is a theme to meth use over the years, isn't there.
Gonna start calling it fascidust
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 241d
well i mean, the actual nazis used it quite a bit…
nostrauxendar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 241d
I think that's what they were getting at
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
Didn't the nazis not only use it, but also invent it?
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 241d
no, that was a japanese chemist
Kayday@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 241d
Walteru Waito
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 241d
walking a thin line there… but i will abide
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 241d
He also invented the meal of seconduh breakfastuh
nostrauxendar@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 241d
You got his number?
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 241d
yeah it’s 867-5309
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 241d
Jen Hai.
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 3 pts · 241d
He moved his office to Germany. The number is 99-999-9999
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 241d
That's just a common misconception amongst raccoons.
He was actually, translated to english, saying "No no...no no no....no no no no......" upon seeing what was happening in Auschwitz.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d
I mean, how else are you going to try and march across the damn Soviet Union? That place was fucking ginormous.
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 241d
preferably not in the winter, with adequate clothing, and not while fighting a war on another major front….
from what i understand, it helps a lot for a day, and then it hurts a lot if the fighting continues after that….
great for blitzkrieg, bad for war
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 241d
Yeah and it's not even a stims thing. I've seen progressives down Adderall between shots and do coke. But the one meth user I've known was a queer republican who tried to lie her way into relationships with people.
pleasureyoucanmeasure@lemmy.sdf.org · 28 pts · 241d
arbo@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 241d
there's a joke i'm struggling to find that ends with "the intolerant meth"
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 240d
Is "So much for the tolerant meth" not already perfect?
plyth@feddit.org · 6 pts · 240d
Reverse it:
What's the worst for meth addicts? Tolerance.
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 241d
I was wondering who was still on reddit
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 241d
Way way more then here. Don't be dumb.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 240d
Wonder how many of them are bots, there has to be posts that are made and populated entirely by bots
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 18 pts · 241d
Music To Meth To <3
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 241d
YES SIR I WILL DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 241d
(m)Ugh!
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 241d
All the merh boards are just too political now.
sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 241d
THANK GOD.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 240d
I'm on a forum for weed users and I'm surprised by how many right wingers are on it. Maybe I'm naive, but I would have thought most right-wingers are against drugs. I guess I tend to forget right-wingers are hypocrites.
Takios@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 240d
the only moral high is my high!
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 240d
Libertarians are kind of just right wing but with weed smoking. Could be some of them.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 241d
MAGA Tweakers? A lot of things are starting to make total sense. The Nazis were really into it, too.
It's even more perfect that the Nazis called it Pervitin, making it the perfect drug of choice for PedoCons.
hydroxycotton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 241d
lol. let's hope lemmy never becomes truly mainstream then.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 241d
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 240d
It is unfortunate that a great part of the internet enshittified so intensely and rapidly. Spez appears to be a bad person, it is also unfortunate that so many people refuse to migrate to better platforms. Let's not make our whole identities being mad about it.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 241d
Cheer up tweakers, only one more sleep till Christmas.
H3mp79@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 241d
7 days between sleep are rookie numbers
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 241d
meth and cocaine,heroin, the hard drugs has been the right wingers choice of drugs .
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
Don't forget alcohol and nicotine
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
I have a pet theory that amphetamines are inherently fascist. I'd be surprised if the "normal" meth sub is commie, but knowing what chuds consider communist, it's not surprising that they'd make an even more hard-line sub.
BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 241d
“Amphetamines are inherently fascist”???
What does that even mean?
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
When you use them they put you in a fascist mental state.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 241d
Broadfern@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 241d
I mean, I had (prescribed) adderall for a few months that had me borderline tweaky at my given dosage, but I still remained decidedly not right wing/fascist.
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 241d
I think smoking meth is a little harder of a deal. Mostly a joke more than anything.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 241d
Maybe you would've been even lefter by now!
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 241d
Hey, Adderall isn't like that at least for people with adhd
MTZ@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 241d
I never thought about it but I had a friend many years back that went on a several months long crystal meth and heroin bender, fell into deep psychosis, was hospitalized, and got clean after a while. He never went back to "normal" and remained much, much more conservative, right wing, and libertarian than he was before he went on the bender. Before that he was basically a militant anarchist.
lectricleopard@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 241d
Fetterman became conservative after his stroke, too.
I think it may be possible to damage the brain in a way that makes empathy harder.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 241d
Fetterman was conservative before, we just didn't want to see it.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 241d
did pennsatucky make it?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · -3 pts · 241d
I've never known a meth user who was also a leftist.
People on the left tend to use classier drugs, in my experience.
Edit: Oh, I'm sorry. Did I offend some meth heads?
H3mp79@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 241d
Im a meth head in recovery and I'm no fucking tankie but lean hard left.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 241d
optissima@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 241d
If you have values no one here will believe you arent tankie
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d
It's a lot easier to have compassion when your Ego melts into the universe