Reminder that the original creators kinda don't want you to pay for the game anymore, since all of the profits go to the shitty rights-holder. If you miss this claim, simply *redacted* the game.
They made the IP and game, their parent company had a full change in leadership, they questioned what qas happening, and the new guys said "yoink" before kicking them out
They made an IP, a minor share holder used company funds to buy majority states in said company, then forced the guys who made the game out of the company. I'm not able to do investigative journalism in a comment, but there is still an ongoing legal case on this
I'm not pretending to be any kind of expert, as you can tell from my initial inquiry I'm not familiar with this, I was only responding to the way it was portrayed to me in comments.
No game can ever satisfy everyone. But just because it wasn't for you doesn't mean it's not one of the greatest RPGs ever. I didn't enjoy clair obscur like I thought I would, but I'm not gonna pretend it's not an amazing game.
I'm quite chill.. just pointing out the difference between fact and opinion. And besides, who gets to decide what is a masterpiece and what isn't one if not "everyone"?
The writing wastes a LOT of time. Yes, I get it, that's the vibe they want to set, but the vibe was set like 5 minutes ago, and all you've done since is print synonyms for "drunk asshole."
It's also paraded as pro-communist media, and it really isn't at all. People are so capitalist-brained, that any game which places communism and capitalism on equal footing, pointing out the faults in both and mocking them relentlessly, is somehow "pro-communist." In particular, the games plot-relevant example of a die-hard communist is not someone to aspire to. Neither are the capitalists or fascists, but that's kind of the point: it's hard to say it supports any political viewpoint when it shits on everyone fairly equally.
Honestly, I wanted and expected a lot more out of it. Particularly in the ending.
Though it was absolutely worth the playthrough. It's a fantastic game, just not this pinnacle of writing the way the internet plays it off to be.
The writing is the reason for playing the game. If that's wasted time, maybe this kind of RPG isn't your thing.
It's also paraded as pro-communist media, and it really isn't at all.
100% dependant on your play style. If you go down Socialist Cop route, it's pro communism. If you go down the Crypto Fascist route, the game is pro-racism.
That's why it is one of the best RPGs of all time; You have so much choice and agency that you get like 16 different versions of the same story, based entirely on what you choose to do, and those stories are written as well as any book.
The game was made by communists, and they do make fun of themselves and other communists a lot and try to be even handed with the satire. That being said, if you've completed all four political vision quests you do notice how pro-communist the authors are. I always recommend people do the communist path on their first playthrough, because it is the political quest that injects a necessary piece of hope into the game. It feels almost like the "canon" choice considering how well it balances out certain other elements of the story.
::: spoiler Communist vision quest spoilers
Not only do you have some gorgeous lines in the book club about their motivations, like:
"I guess you could say we believe it because it's impossible." He looks at the scattered matchboxes on the ground. "It's our way of saying we refuse to accept that the world has to remain... like this..."
But then the scene also ends with irrefutable proof that infra-materialism works. Ideas can change the world if you believe in them.
:::
I think it's more than that. The way the game criticizes legal institutions, religion and the union is clearly informed by a revolutionary perspective. I don't think Disco Elysium is subtle or coy about its politics, it just doesn't pretend like achieving these goals will be easy.
If it's only the launcher, maybe take a look at Legendary, a command line tool to download and lauch games from the epic store. If you don't want to bother with the command line, heroic launcher uses it and theres also a plugin for Playnite.
I own it on Steam. It supports the Mac on Steam. I wonder if Epic offers the Mac version. (Epic is at war with Apple over iPhone stuff. The Mac has always allowed their stuff, but they stopped supporting it as protest.) Claimed either way. Doesn’t hurt anything.
36 Comments
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 159 pts · 232d
Reminder that the original creators kinda don't want you to pay for the game anymore, since all of the profits go to the shitty rights-holder. If you miss this claim, simply *redacted* the game.
ifmu@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 232d
Just say it: preserve.
rtxn@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 232d
It's a combined disability discount: people with hook hands, peg legs, and eyepatches may be entitled to a price as low as 0%.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 232d
The good ol' zero finger discount.
bryndos@fedia.io · 3 pts · 232d
parrot
bryndos@fedia.io · 6 pts · 232d
The op webshite required lot's of logins; and less said about the date format for the age verification . . .
redacted seems way less bother.
HollowNaught@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 232d
Ip was stolen by corporate suits
Pirating the game is the most moral thing you can do
Krudler@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
Wow, can you say in brief what happened?
HollowNaught@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 230d
They made the IP and game, their parent company had a full change in leadership, they questioned what qas happening, and the new guys said "yoink" before kicking them out
Krudler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 228d
That's a bit of a different presentation than "stole" just saying.
HollowNaught@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
It was initially an artist-owned company, which had a hostile takeover against the wishes of said artists
Not sure how you'd define it as anything other than stole
Krudler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
Because it sounds like they were employees not IP owners
HollowNaught@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
That's not what this was about?
They made an IP, a minor share holder used company funds to buy majority states in said company, then forced the guys who made the game out of the company. I'm not able to do investigative journalism in a comment, but there is still an ongoing legal case on this
Krudler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
That's more informative, thank you.
I'm not pretending to be any kind of expert, as you can tell from my initial inquiry I'm not familiar with this, I was only responding to the way it was portrayed to me in comments.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 47 pts · 232d
No thanks I'd rather pirate it
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 232d
Outstanding game. Easy recommend if you haven't played it
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 232d
It’s a great game, but not the masterpiece everyone told me.
nyctre@piefed.social · 28 pts · 232d
No game can ever satisfy everyone. But just because it wasn't for you doesn't mean it's not one of the greatest RPGs ever. I didn't enjoy clair obscur like I thought I would, but I'm not gonna pretend it's not an amazing game.
tomalley8342@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 232d
He literally said that it was a great game.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 232d
Oh yeah I fully agree that no game can satisfy everyone.
It’s just that, before playing it myself, I never heard a bad thing about it so I might have expected too much out of it.
Still I enjoyed it, even if it’s not a game I’ll recommend to everyone.
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 232d
Chill out he said it was great. And I also agree with him, its not a masterpiece like everyone is making it out to be.
nyctre@piefed.social · -1 pts · 232d
I'm quite chill.. just pointing out the difference between fact and opinion. And besides, who gets to decide what is a masterpiece and what isn't one if not "everyone"?
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
Not you for starters.
Glide@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 232d
Same.
The writing wastes a LOT of time. Yes, I get it, that's the vibe they want to set, but the vibe was set like 5 minutes ago, and all you've done since is print synonyms for "drunk asshole."
It's also paraded as pro-communist media, and it really isn't at all. People are so capitalist-brained, that any game which places communism and capitalism on equal footing, pointing out the faults in both and mocking them relentlessly, is somehow "pro-communist." In particular, the games plot-relevant example of a die-hard communist is not someone to aspire to. Neither are the capitalists or fascists, but that's kind of the point: it's hard to say it supports any political viewpoint when it shits on everyone fairly equally.
Honestly, I wanted and expected a lot more out of it. Particularly in the ending.
Though it was absolutely worth the playthrough. It's a fantastic game, just not this pinnacle of writing the way the internet plays it off to be.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 25 pts · 232d
The writing is the reason for playing the game. If that's wasted time, maybe this kind of RPG isn't your thing.
100% dependant on your play style. If you go down Socialist Cop route, it's pro communism. If you go down the Crypto Fascist route, the game is pro-racism.
That's why it is one of the best RPGs of all time; You have so much choice and agency that you get like 16 different versions of the same story, based entirely on what you choose to do, and those stories are written as well as any book.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 232d
The game was made by communists, and they do make fun of themselves and other communists a lot and try to be even handed with the satire. That being said, if you've completed all four political vision quests you do notice how pro-communist the authors are. I always recommend people do the communist path on their first playthrough, because it is the political quest that injects a necessary piece of hope into the game. It feels almost like the "canon" choice considering how well it balances out certain other elements of the story.
::: spoiler Communist vision quest spoilers Not only do you have some gorgeous lines in the book club about their motivations, like:
But then the scene also ends with irrefutable proof that infra-materialism works. Ideas can change the world if you believe in them. :::
mirshafie@europe.pub · 6 pts · 232d
I think it's more than that. The way the game criticizes legal institutions, religion and the union is clearly informed by a revolutionary perspective. I don't think Disco Elysium is subtle or coy about its politics, it just doesn't pretend like achieving these goals will be easy.
Rooty@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 232d
caboose2006@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 232d
I'm looking forward to more people experiencing this game.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 232d
Thanks, been waiting to play this one.
Though, epic Games licks ass. I'd rather buy it on steam right now for less than $5.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/632470/Disco_Elysium__The_Final_Cut/
ArchEngel@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 232d
*kicks ass?
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 232d
Nope. Licks. Hate epic Games launcher and all that BS.
ArchEngel@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 232d
Ahh, got it - it sucks ass
warbond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 230d
See what ass-eating culture hath wrought?
AgentRocket@feddit.org · 2 pts · 232d
If it's only the launcher, maybe take a look at Legendary, a command line tool to download and lauch games from the epic store. If you don't want to bother with the command line, heroic launcher uses it and theres also a plugin for Playnite.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 232d
I own it on Steam. It supports the Mac on Steam. I wonder if Epic offers the Mac version. (Epic is at war with Apple over iPhone stuff. The Mac has always allowed their stuff, but they stopped supporting it as protest.) Claimed either way. Doesn’t hurt anything.