Decided to see what Reddit was up to and this was the first thing I saw

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massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 139 pts · 255d (27 replies)

That the internet is not a good thing.

Twenty years ago, even some more, the internet was something that brought me hope for humanity: A democratic network of knowledge open to anyone for both participation and access. I truly expected this to improve the lifes of those in less fortunate countries and backgrounds, and help reduce conflicts between people by understanding each other.

Yeah, a bit too much "we are the world", but you read about the pioneers of the internet and this was a shared belief.

Turns out it was like Cyberpunk, but like boring.

fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 38 pts · 255d (6 replies)

It's more of a billionaire nazi propaganda problem. Imagine if they bought up the newspapers and tv stations and there was literally no alternitive

dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 254d (2 replies)

That's exactly what happened in Hungary, Slovakia, Russia... terrestrial news stations and papers all have people at the helm that have ties to their government.

I don't think it's much different in the US either.

anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 254d (1 reply)

Still currently in progress but most of the way complete. We’re gonna have a hard time un-fucking it at this stage.

foodandart@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 253d

This is where capitalism needs to be leveraged - with a vengeance. Do not ignore that most of the media outlets are commercial in nature, and entirely dependent on advertisers.

IronBird@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 254d (1 reply)

...they have done that. like 5 people billionaires own the majority of media in the US, radio/news/3 letter networks

fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 254d

But we do have an alternative

Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 248d

Yeah, too real. We should kill the rich and turn the dead billionaire corpses into fertilizer. Eating the rich is cannibalism and unhealthy

Maiq@piefed.social · 28 pts · 254d (9 replies)

I remember watching the Arab Spring unfold. Twitter being a guiding light through the darkness for so many people whos government tried to control available communication.

Such high hopes for people back then.

laranis@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 254d (7 replies)

Occupy Wall Street and Me Too, also. I thought we were headed in the right direction. Fast forward... We got this.

Maiq@piefed.social · 14 pts · 254d (4 replies)

All that has happened with the consolidation of social media into a propaganda arm for governments and corporations makes the fediverse decentralized network an important step forward in the right direction.

If there were another "??? Spring", could the fediverse be a tool for communication central to a movement still remains a question.

lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 254d (3 replies)

The fediverse is empty and scattered as hell

Maiq@piefed.social · 4 pts · 254d (2 replies)

Empty true, might not always be that way, we'll have to see. Scattered is an advantage IMO.

I'm more worried about what the instance owners and admins might do when pressured. I suspect widely different treatment depending which country was in spring so to speak.

lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 254d (1 reply)

My point is there is no enough mass here to make a difference.

You can say not yet but the way I see this world moving we're already past the end.

foodandart@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 253d

My point is there is no enough mass here to make a difference.

Not yet.. and TBH, if the shit hits it, all that will be needed is a few people well placed within the system, to disseminate news to everywhere.

foodandart@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 253d (1 reply)

This is the final end run of policy and people pushing for it who have been slinking around in the shadows since Ronald Reagan. It's a whole bunch of white paranoia and greed rolled up into a reactionary viewpoint and it's been carefully cultivated for decades.

The one bright point in its implementation, is that the demographic most taken in is the one still dominantly getting it's information from cable TV. And there's a reason that as the demographic ages out and dies, cable TV viewership is falling.

You've got another 25 years or so until the last of the boomers hit their life expectancies. Hang on.

laranis@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 253d

I hope you're right. But something tells me there isn't a generational limit on shit-baggery and overt, planet killing greed.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 242d

The countries that hit the brick wall fastest during the Arab Spring were - curiously - the ones where the US had the biggest influence. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, the UAE, Oman, Iraq... all saw the movement flatline in a matter of weeks. Egypt and Turkiye saw some early movement and even a successful turn of government, but immediately boomeranged back to military dictatorship when too many Arab Nationalists started gaining steam. Gaza and the West Bank had a moment, only for the Israelis to freak out and start killing people for mentioning the Nakba.

Libya, Syria, and Iran saw real instability, though. The Qaddafi government came crashing down, with its ex-leader dying to sodemy by razor blades. Assad put down his revolt with horrible violence per family tradition, buying himself another ten years of dictatorship. Liberal Iranians once again became cannon fodder for the counter-revolution, while Americans were prompted to liberate the country in the same way we'd liberated its Saddem-Era neighbor.

None of these stories ended well, because none began with an eye towards actual democratic liberalization. The Arab Spring was a beautiful narrative spun atop a horrifying region wide civil war for control of... oil.

BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 255d

All the dystopia, none of the mantis blades.

HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 254d

Yeah now-a-days the internet is a surveilled corporate hellscape. People in power are trying to make it moreso (age verification, war on encryption, etc).

FaceDeer@fedia.io · 9 pts · 255d (1 reply)

I think the Internet is still a good thing, it's just become so pervasive and ubiquitous that it's easy to ignore when it's not a bad thing. Humans are really good at noticing bad things, which makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. They stand out more starkly against a neutral background.

Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 254d

It is, and people are sharing all the knowledge in the world, in a way that was never possible before.

Just because an AI-driven botnet is flooding it with bogus articles, and mainstream entertainment is full of brain rot, it doesn't mean the internet isn't incredibly useful, to the point that many people would struggle with daily life without it.

motruck@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 254d (1 reply)

Social media made the internet not worth it. I had high hopes also but humanity sucks as seen when we are all interconnected with global squares.

massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 9 pts · 254d

Yet here we are, defiant in someone's server in a basement in Germany.

BranBucket@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 253d

Yup. The Internet was going to demolish barriers and let people communicate mind to mind without prejudice. We were going to democratize information and science, put the power in the hands of the people, and put an end to pointless conflicts.

Far fetched? Sure. But we should never forget what they stole from us. The most complex and powerful machine humanity has ever created, a collaborative project built in the spirit of cooperation and empowerment, is being monoplized and exploited so some high functioning sociopaths can get rich.

Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 254d (1 reply)

How is the Internet not a network of knowledge open to anyone??

It's full of crap, yes. Back then it was just much smaller, but still very much crap-filled.

IronBird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 254d

people eat shit and wonder why it tastes bad

for some reason they never seem to consider they can just...not eat the shit?

since the advent of the printing press, there has always been more media than any one person can consume in a lifetime...if your not filtering the content you consume your doing it wrong

Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 253d

This is a really upsetting thing.

I grew up with "not everything on the internet is real" but it seems all the people that told me this forgot it.

I was promised access to the whole of human knowledge, but everyone ignores it because we've been trained not to read critically.

HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 86 pts · 254d (7 replies)

"Create an account to continue" being considered normal for everything.

They're so certain they even dropped the "please" at this point.

AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 254d (4 replies)

Also you need an app for even the most basic things

HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 254d

Yeah, app-gating is something I struggle against.

SpikesOtherDog@ani.social · 10 pts · 254d (2 replies)

App-controlled appliances are absolutely one of my pet peeves. I would much rather prefer an analog knob.

wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 253d (1 reply)

We still have zero app-controlled (or internet-capable) appliances and I hope to keep it that way forever.. though I'm starting to worry that maybe in the future we won't have much choice.

SpikesOtherDog@ani.social · 5 pts · 253d

Yeah, I still opt for the 'lower-cost' options when buying appliances. There is always the used market, so by the time I must but one I'll probably have a strategy ready to go.

Maybe I'll have an old phone I'll put on a separate vlan WiFi with a special account just for that. A service account, if you will.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 254d (1 reply)

There were plenty of "log-in to view this image/link" back then. Some forums still do that abuse.

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 253d

I fucking hate forums that do this shit.

abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 75 pts · 255d (3 replies)

Answer's easy though. Signing up to advertisement delivery platforms, wether it be TikTok, or YouTube or even Amazon Prime with comemrcials.

ccunning@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 255d (2 replies)

Basically everything on the internet now we would have called “spyware” before 2000…

abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 255d

Right but they're mostly not too up in your face with the spyware. They're not hiding it either,but you could forgive a tech-illiterate for not seeing it.
The advertisements though, they're fucking all over the place. The "free internet" isn't even dead. These poor sods just choose to go with the advertisements instead.

zz31da@piefed.social · 1 pts · 248d

I'm not sure we knew what spyware was before 2000

edit: I guess the term was officially coined in 1995, but not common parlance until around 2005, so I suppose I was in the ballpark

Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 73 pts · 255d (5 replies)

Return of nicotine addiction of the youth.

Latest trend besides the god damned vapes: nicotine-infused toothpicks the kids in 7th grade are casually twirling around their mouths during class.

RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 255d (3 replies)

I remember a couple grades older than me in high school (I'm mid 30s) were getting in trouble for having cinnamon soaked tooth picks on them. What a world of change we live in.

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 255d (2 replies)

I was just thinking about those cinnamon tooth picks reading their comment! I haven't seen those since I left Miami. God I miss those things! I fell asleep on the tri rail with one in my mouth and woke up looking like I had the most horrific case of ringworm on my cheek.

Ledivin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 254d (1 reply)

FWIW it's ridiculously easy and cheap to make your own. Just be sure to the dilute the Cinnamon oil before soaking or you will burn your tongue.

And there are dozens of other oils that work really well, including mixing! Orange cinnamon is great

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 254d

Fucking brilliant! Maybe I'll bring the light to these godless local heathens who have never had one.

abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 254d

Funny enough, those have actually been around for a while, I remember seeing them as a "smoking alternative" sometime around 2013? But pretty sure they were around before that. Also aren't zyns or whatever still popular? Why not just stick with that?

Nicotine was bound to stick around though. It's basically a "legal" mini-high and doesn't have all the smell and cancer stigma (yet, pretty sure those things still ruin your lungs) that traditional burning cigs do. That industry wasn't gonna fold without a fight.

fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 61 pts · 255d (3 replies)

Holding a mobile telephone horizontally in front of yourself and shouting at it, then moving it to the side of your head, holding it sticking out from your ear horizontally to listen to what the other person says... instead of just holding it in one place to do both, like a telephone.

vaionko@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 254d (2 replies)

Why... why would you do that?

masta_chief@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 254d (1 reply)

I use speaker most of the time when I'm not around other people. Just more comfortable for me so I don't have to hold my arm up. I suppose someone who is also used to using speaker could just not notice when it would be better to use the earpiece.

But yeah the meta for phone answering nowadays seems to be speaker phone primarily.

Edit: to clarify I always switch to the appropriate mode given the situation and fuck you if you're on the phone being loud to people around you

cheesorist@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 254d

plus using speaker let's me avoid touching my phone which is filthy most of the time

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 44 pts · 254d (2 replies)

Normies on the internet.

It used to be exclusively nerds, geeks, freaks, and weirdos.

I miss those days 😮‍💨

Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 254d

Kent feels like those now.

titanicx@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 253d

Normies 

Internet

Hmmm. Dude, seriously. No. This question here is what non normal people ask.

not_me@piefed.social · 43 pts · 254d
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Quexotic@infosec.pub · 43 pts · 254d (3 replies)

Coal rollers. The active embrace of our collective demise.

P00ptart@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 254d

The one and only time I encountered one was when I was in my WRX with my newborn in the back. Blew black smoke in front of me on the highway at highway speeds. Sped through the smoke because WRX, had a half empty frappucino bottle next to me and whipped it out the window at the laughing passenger, catching him in the forehead. WRX was too fast to know what happened after that.

vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 254d

Coal rollers are defenders of the sanity in this world. If not for them, I don't know how I could know the pure hate fuelling the masses for genocide and such?

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 254d

I feel like those aren't new. I think they're just pretty rare, so most people don't find out about them.

Agent641@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 254d

People using their actual fucking name on the internet.

x00z@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 255d

Fascism.

leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 253d (1 reply)

Everything constantly getting worse at an accelerating rate.

Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 253d

Like I've not been hopeful since about 2006

mr_satan@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 254d (1 reply)

Nothing. I'm thirty, not retarded.

foodandart@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 253d

LOL! I know the feeling. Am 61 and no "modern" things phase me.

bytesonbike@discuss.online · 29 pts · 255d (1 reply)

The kids are posting, and I'm too old for this shit.

AreaKode@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 255d

NSFW ::: spoiler spoiler ___ :::

Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 253d

Literally everything that punk and grunge tried to warn us about in the 80s and 90s regarding corporatism becoming reality and everyone being okay with it as long as they have shiny new toys to play with every year.

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 20 pts · 255d

Nothing really, it’s just hard to care because everything is what we already had but with advertising and spying everywhere.

LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 254d (1 reply)

Omfg, if you're over 25, that's when you start struggling to understand technology, because the alzheimers is starting to set in? Things are getting dumber, not smarter.

diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 254d

Idiocracy incarnate

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 255d

Tipping at kiosks.............

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 254d (1 reply)

I'm no longer friends with MySpace Tom.

BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 253d

Yeah, fuck that smug bastard off living his best life travelling round the world taking photos after extracting a ton of money from Rupert Murdoch.

Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 16 pts · 254d (5 replies)

I mean the question stings a little but ultimately times have changed quite a bit since the 90s. And I'm 30 so that's all my last century reference. Genuinely one I didn't expect is so much stuff like fashion, music and whatnot from my childhood being this popular among today's teenagers. Also people used to be more considerate using public transport. Listening to music on speaker was almost unheard of and now it happens all the time around me. Oh and restaurants with qr code only menus can piss right off.

kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 254d

Genuinely one I didn't expect is so much stuff like fashion, music and whatnot from my childhood being this popular among today's teenagers.

The resurgence of the mullet is simply not acceptable. It was terrible then, it is terrible now. You look like a moron.

itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 254d (2 replies)

The thing about the music on transit is half the time it's people older than me (30s and up). Which means it's not a generational thing, these people were always out there.

As for QR codes, I think there are use cases, though they are often poorly implemented. QR code ONLY I agree is insanity

JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 253d (1 reply)

Especially once you consider how easy it is to create and print your own QR codes to link to fucking anything and put them in public.
Direct attack vector that people will click without a thought - or for the general public no idea of the potential risk even present.
Im sure there are plenty of people who would be like 'no im not stupid enough to click this random link from an email claiming to be a service provider or something, but would happily whip their phone out to order another round of drinks from the code on their bar table.

TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 253d

I keep telling my family this whenever they say the QR code menus are 'fancy'

No, they are not. They are method of saving money on updating print menus. They are also gathering user data when you open the menu and the website has a cookie pop-up. The QR code menu is a cheapening of provided service, invasion of privacy, and a security vulnerability for - you guessed it - only the customers.

themaninblack@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d

What in the FUCK is with the lack of basic consideration for others not wanting to hear your phone on public transit?!

Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 254d

Nothing, who do you think taught them how to do it?

Nightsoul@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 253d (2 replies)

Using a phone exclusively.

I don't get how people will do all of their business on a tiny phone. Like anything that needs more then a few sentences of typing, I'll go to my computer to do instead, same with filling out forms.

Same goes for phone gaming. Touch controls are always ass.

tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 253d

Same.

I do find myself using my phone a lot more than I used to - all my Lemmy activity is on my phone, and most of my messaging is too. Those are things it's very convenient to have in my pocket. But I could not survive without a laptop.

Any sort of actual task, be that shopping, banking, research or general browsing, is all far better there.

Trying to do anything involved, like compare and buy car insurance on my phone, feels utterly crippling - as if I'm operating at 20% efficiency, and I can feel my fingers burning with frustration at how much quicker I'd be with a keyboard, trackpad, and decent multitasking.

lepinkainen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d

Big purchases require big screen. I have spoken.

Anything over 50-100€ is not getting bought in a phone.

Formfiller@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 253d (2 replies)

The fanatical rise of facism, racism and mysoginy

axexrx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d

I keep getting pulled back to the manic street preachers song, if you tolerate this, your children will be next

blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 253d

Not exactly new

tehsillz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 253d (1 reply)

People in this thread are answering the picture of a reddit post....

Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d

Yeah it's supposed to be sarcastic responses only. I was coming here to say "My age, apparently."

njm1314@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 254d

Just put me on a fucking Iceberg already.

sramder@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 255d (8 replies)

How the fuck to sixty-seven someone?

Be sure to tip your waitresses! I’ll show myself out…

Makeshift@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 255d (4 replies)

For one, it's six seven, not sixty-seven. That's the first trip up.

As for the second, assuming I understand correctly: It literally means nothing. It's just a thing to say. And it's funny when adults are baffled and can't understand.

I did see someone point out that six times seven equals fourty-two. Which is neat.

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 255d (3 replies)

Someone told Me it evolex out of how 420 and 69 are funny

matengor@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 254d (2 replies)

evolex? Perhaps you meant evolved?

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 254d (1 reply)

Yeah sorry

Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 254d

Don't be. I'm trademarking it and selling it for next Rolex line.

Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 255d (1 reply)

It's mostly the same as how you would sixty-nine someone except you unfurl your proboscis first.

FaceDeer@fedia.io · 3 pts · 255d

Ixnay on the roboscispay in front of the umanshay!

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 255d

Same as the shocker sixtynine , minus the two in the pink.

Bazell@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 254d

Economy.

Cnote5@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 254d

I expected Soylent Green by now.

umbrellacloud@leminal.space · 2 pts · 253d
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JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 229d

Bro thinks 27 years old is basically ancient.

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 253d

Young sailors and officers I trained are now in the process of training even younger sailors and officers.

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d

Sore joints.

GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 254d

ITT:Lemmites being reminded that they an old now. And struggling to come to terms with it.