I've been stuck in this exact situation at a local pub. It's even worse when you've downed 3 pints so you're simultaneously drunk and been holding it for way too long cause you had to finish explaining a friend why Marx was right.
Pissed in my first bush last summer because I was stupidly drunk . Then behind a dumpster and then in another bush. Diuretics mixed with alcohol are a removed.
This post made me realize, I've only ever heard "the birds and the bees" referenced, but never actually how it's applied during sex ed.
But uh, turns out this does not make any sense in that context either. It's just two separate examples to explain sexuality, so bees pollinating flowers and birds laying eggs. They're just used as examples, because they're visible in nature and somewhat resemble the mechanics of sex.
They should have used the eggplants and the peaches. Before cell phone emojis that would have made things even more confusing. Then Piper Perry could do the putting the condom on the eggplant demonstration, and every boy could feel inadequate for the next several decades.
Ah, I thought there would be a male bird involved still, but I guess that example just explains ovulation. Still quite optimistic that everyone shares the same understanding here, though...
I've heard reasons for it like "women's bathroom needs places to dispose of pads/tampons but, like, it's a box on the wall. Put one in both.
Also heard reasons along the lines of "men are faster at using the bathroom so why should we need to share with women" (even though with single bathrooms the washing your hands part is the time bottleneck, not the peeing part) or just general disgust at the idea of sharing a bathroom with the other gender (have heard it from both genders).
There needs to be one in every stall (imagine having to find somewhere to set down a soaked feminine product so you can finish up, and then leave the stall with it in your hand 🙃 a gendered bathroom is one thing but either way I imagine you'd have way more folks just opting to flush. Best case scenario, it gets wrapped in a wad of toilet paper that also has to be supplied and attended to.)
There's only so many places on a stall floor to put a trash can. Next to the toilet is out of sight enough that you're gonna have more flushed tampons. Next to the door is in the way enough to get kicked and knocked over. In a larger stall it could easily end up out of reach.
You'd also be asking a janitor to move a trash can out of the way and replace it in every stall every time they mop, on top of bending down to clean and change each one.
On that note, anything that gets on the floor will also get on the trash can, meaning any metal will probably be exposed to corrosives (urine, cleaning chemicals, even standing water).
Even in terms of cost; the ones on the wall can be as cheap as cutting, bending, and installing a piece of sheet metal, and will basically last the lifetime of the stall.
I honestly can't think of a single good reason for it to be anywhere else.
I mean the trash cans are already there in every stall, or are they not in your country? We get them in male and gender neutral bathrooms too.
The other issues just seem like non-issues mostly. Never have I accidentally tripped one over, nor is it usually hard to reach one - maybe if you're pregnant, though.
I guess I'm not really sure what you're disagreeing with? You asked, I answered. This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever wasted my time thinking about though so literally who gives a fuck put your stupid trash can wherever you'd like it to be.
Yeah duuuuh. Women leave their claw marks everywhere, blood splatter, and oh my god throw that tampon to the trashcan it's literally there for that reason!
But also yeah duuuh, men take personal offence at the idea of not pissing all around the stall, and washing hands has to include splattering water, somehow, behind the stall. Also never manages to drop the paper towel to bin.
My second favorite washroom was a grand all-genders one at a bar. There was never a wait and it had a hang-out area so you could keep an eye on your friends if they got too tipsy, or just do nose drugs with strangers. Mostly nose drugs.
For the traditional story, birds are girls, bees are boys.
Hence the common UK slang of calling girls "birds" or in the US "chicks".
Ironic given that bee sexual reproduction is probably the least analogous to humans in the entire animal kingdom and the VAST majority of bees that you encounter outside the nest (and the only bees with stingers" are sterile female worker bees.
“She’s the bees knees” or “look at that sexy bird” I’m still confused after writing it out. Does the stinger go into the cloaca? If so, I’d guess the bee is the man… but then bees are mostly female. I fucking give up. I’d piss in the alley.
Honeybee colonies are mostly female. The Queen and Workers are female and the males (Drones) don’t actually do much, don’t have stingers, and don’t collect pollen. They are tolerated in small numbers to well… you know.
Aliens from outer space that resemble birds and bees have recently infiltrated earth
and are slowly but surely taking over earth's restrooms.
You are neither their species, so it's best to turn around and go home.
Yeah, I was just trying to point out the absurdity of trying to assign gender to either of them.
Most bees people think of are worker or queen bees (female) while the birds people tend to picture are bright and colorful (males) or the songs (also typically males). On the other hand people associate birds and egg laying (so I suppose femaleish) and bees have a stinger that could symbolize a penis (though if you have a barbed and venomous penis please stay far away from me).
So I vote you pick based solely on vibes instead of gender. Hell, I vote we take it a step further and stop gendering bathrooms at all. Just put random unrelated symbols and people can pick which they like. So like one with a book, the other with cheese. Or whatever else you want. Make it a big poop related social experiment.
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smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 200 pts · 242d
It's not gendered, it's birds for turds and bees for pees.
ollie@pawb.social · 66 pts · 242d
i like this one, very inclusive
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 242d
#everybodypoops
nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 242d
Not bees, they pees
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 241d
#nobodypoopsbutyou
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 241d
So everybody is full of shit but me?
Fucking KNEW it.
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 242d
Kim doesn't poop
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 242d
He does, it's just pure gold and orchids.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 241d
What if I need to throw up?
Edit: wait. Obviously. Go into the brirds room and just grab somebody's face. 50/50 its what they're there for, right?
eezeebee@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 241d
Eiri@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 242d
Kinda nice but I would have never guessed
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 241d
It doesn't really matter, it's all just sinks inside each one anyway.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 241d
It's actually quite refreshing to have some female company at the next urinal along.
ooterness@lemmy.world · 101 pts · 242d
The sign in the right says "bees", but the picture shows a creature with eight legs, two body segments, and no wings. That's no bee, that's a spider!
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 242d
First set is arena, third is the wings, the come out straight with no detents like the other six legs.
Goretantath@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 242d
Oh shit you're right!
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 241d
There's my answer then! Thank you!
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 62 pts · 242d
I've been stuck in this exact situation at a local pub. It's even worse when you've downed 3 pints so you're simultaneously drunk and been holding it for way too long cause you had to finish explaining a friend why Marx was right.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 242d
So fucking real
RaoulDuke85@piefed.social · 9 pts · 242d
Drinking gives me the superpower of peeing anywhere with no shame.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 242d
Pissed in my first bush last summer because I was stupidly drunk . Then behind a dumpster and then in another bush. Diuretics mixed with alcohol are a removed.
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 46 pts · 241d
This post made me realize, I've only ever heard "the birds and the bees" referenced, but never actually how it's applied during sex ed.
But uh, turns out this does not make any sense in that context either. It's just two separate examples to explain sexuality, so bees pollinating flowers and birds laying eggs. They're just used as examples, because they're visible in nature and somewhat resemble the mechanics of sex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_birds_and_the_bees
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 241d
They should have used the eggplants and the peaches. Before cell phone emojis that would have made things even more confusing. Then Piper Perry could do the putting the condom on the eggplant demonstration, and every boy could feel inadequate for the next several decades.
cuerdo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 241d
But in those examples, the bee is pollinating and the bird is conceiving, so it would make sense.
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 241d
Ah, I thought there would be a male bird involved still, but I guess that example just explains ovulation. Still quite optimistic that everyone shares the same understanding here, though...
oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 241d
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 242d
The gendered single person bathroom. I never understood those.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 33 pts · 242d
I've heard reasons for it like "women's bathroom needs places to dispose of pads/tampons but, like, it's a box on the wall. Put one in both.
Also heard reasons along the lines of "men are faster at using the bathroom so why should we need to share with women" (even though with single bathrooms the washing your hands part is the time bottleneck, not the peeing part) or just general disgust at the idea of sharing a bathroom with the other gender (have heard it from both genders).
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 241d
Isn't it just a trash can? Why does it need to be on the wall?
causepix@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 241d
A can on the floor would be super impractical.
There needs to be one in every stall (imagine having to find somewhere to set down a soaked feminine product so you can finish up, and then leave the stall with it in your hand 🙃 a gendered bathroom is one thing but either way I imagine you'd have way more folks just opting to flush. Best case scenario, it gets wrapped in a wad of toilet paper that also has to be supplied and attended to.)
There's only so many places on a stall floor to put a trash can. Next to the toilet is out of sight enough that you're gonna have more flushed tampons. Next to the door is in the way enough to get kicked and knocked over. In a larger stall it could easily end up out of reach.
You'd also be asking a janitor to move a trash can out of the way and replace it in every stall every time they mop, on top of bending down to clean and change each one.
On that note, anything that gets on the floor will also get on the trash can, meaning any metal will probably be exposed to corrosives (urine, cleaning chemicals, even standing water).
Even in terms of cost; the ones on the wall can be as cheap as cutting, bending, and installing a piece of sheet metal, and will basically last the lifetime of the stall.
I honestly can't think of a single good reason for it to be anywhere else.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 241d
I mean the trash cans are already there in every stall, or are they not in your country? We get them in male and gender neutral bathrooms too.
The other issues just seem like non-issues mostly. Never have I accidentally tripped one over, nor is it usually hard to reach one - maybe if you're pregnant, though.
causepix@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 240d
I guess I'm not really sure what you're disagreeing with? You asked, I answered. This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever wasted my time thinking about though so literally who gives a fuck put your stupid trash can wherever you'd like it to be.
Demdaru@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d
Yeah duuuuh. Women leave their claw marks everywhere, blood splatter, and oh my god throw that tampon to the trashcan it's literally there for that reason!
But also yeah duuuh, men take personal offence at the idea of not pissing all around the stall, and washing hands has to include splattering water, somehow, behind the stall. Also never manages to drop the paper towel to bin.
We are all terrible lil shits <3
djsaskdja@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 241d
It doesn’t really matter ultimately, but it takes me like 10 seconds to wash my hands. Peeing almost always takes longer.
AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 241d
No most men I know don't wash their hands or if they do they just hold it under the tap for 2 seconds without any soap or anything
Wren@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 241d
My second favorite washroom was a grand all-genders one at a bar. There was never a wait and it had a hang-out area so you could keep an eye on your friends if they got too tipsy, or just do nose drugs with strangers. Mostly nose drugs.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 241d
I always thought it meant 'use the one that's open'
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 240d
It's probably due to legal requirements. It'd be unisex if it could, but if not, pick a random gender for the bathroom to identify as. Pretty ironic.
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 241d
If that was Poland it would be pretty understandable since nearly every bee is female* while "ptak" (bird) is widely used synonym for penis.
*i never met anyone who wouldn't know this, also even the word "pszczoła" (bee) is always feminine in language
Hupf@feddit.org · 5 pts · 240d
It's hilarious that the anglo-saxon explanation yields the polar opposite.
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 240d
TIL anglos seem to have children by pollinating.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 25 pts · 241d
Birds lay eggs and bees pollinate.
For the traditional story, birds are girls, bees are boys.
Hence the common UK slang of calling girls "birds" or in the US "chicks".
Ironic given that bee sexual reproduction is probably the least analogous to humans in the entire animal kingdom and the VAST majority of bees that you encounter outside the nest (and the only bees with stingers" are sterile female worker bees.
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 240d
Some birds pollinate aswell. Bess lay eggs aswell.
celeryfc@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 240d
Pollinate… That makes sense. I always thought guys were the bees cuz they jam their stinger in.
TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 242d
“She’s the bees knees” or “look at that sexy bird” I’m still confused after writing it out. Does the stinger go into the cloaca? If so, I’d guess the bee is the man… but then bees are mostly female. I fucking give up. I’d piss in the alley.
causepix@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 241d
Isn't the queen bee generally the only female?
TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 241d
Honeybee colonies are mostly female. The Queen and Workers are female and the males (Drones) don’t actually do much, don’t have stingers, and don’t collect pollen. They are tolerated in small numbers to well… you know.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 21 pts · 241d
Shit outside the doors as a protest against unclear signage
absentbird@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 241d
Bird is slang for girl, Bee = B for Boy
NIB@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 241d
In greek, bird is slang for penis(πουλί).
absentbird@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 241d
A restroom for girls with penises.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d
Bees will stick it in ya
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 3 pts · 241d
Only the female bees have stingers.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 241d
Just pick a random one. They are nonbinary as far as I am concerned.
Godnroc@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 241d
Birds have a pecker!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 241d
Now try remembering that as a non-native speaker while about to shit in your pants lmao
Although I do suspect these are just gender neutral one-person bathrooms
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 242d
Only thing you can do is crack a door and take a peak.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 242d
Bees start swarming out.
robocall@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 241d
Most bees are female so I guess women go in the bees stall
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 241d
OP pic only makes sense when I think British slang for girl is bird.
But then what is a bee?
robocall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
B is for boy
Viceversa@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 241d
As in Birds?
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 241d
My thinking was that bees are the ones that pollinate, so male.
But they certainly don't pollinate birds, so I don't know where that was going either. 🫠
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 242d
British 1960s slang for a woman is "bird". So, men are bees.
Godort@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 242d
Almost guaranteed that every bee you've seen in the wild is female. So, women are bees
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 242d
Great, so they're both for women? Where the hell do I go?
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 241d
You get to go fuck yourself, apparently...
Maybe there's doors labeled Flowers & Trees on the other side?
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 241d
In the toilet.
folaht@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 241d
Aliens from outer space that resemble birds and bees have recently infiltrated earth and are slowly but surely taking over earth's restrooms.
You are neither their species, so it's best to turn around and go home.
Psiczar@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 241d
Bees pollinate (boys), birds lay eggs (girls).
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 241d
Those are both things only the females of the species do
Worker bees (which are female) go outside and pollinate; female birds lay eggs.
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 241d
Birds big (boys), bees small (girls)
observes_depths@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 241d
But birds also pollinate! Ahh
Wren@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 241d
Am I supposed to lay eggs??!?!!?
modus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 241d
As a wren, yes.
Wren@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 241d
How did I forget that... Good one.
quail@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 241d
Gender neutral id wager. Just go in one and do your business. If some people are offended who cares
ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org · 8 pts · 241d
I'm a human being with autism and a number of other conditions that make it hard for me to interact with other people
Atlas_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 241d
If you're confused it's fine to just ask which one to use
ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org · 2 pts · 240d
okay, which one is for humans?
nathanjent@programming.dev · 5 pts · 241d
Flappers from 1920's to the left and Buzz Aldrin to the right.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 240d
What a shame he turned out to be maga. Goes to show that anyone, even really smart people, fall victim to this corrupt sham of an administration.
Like, he punched a conspiracy theorist one time!
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 242d
I think a bee is male cuz they have stingers
just2look@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 242d
Male bees don't have stingers though...
Goretantath@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 242d
In the "teaching sex ed" way not the reality way, like why the fuck would birds and bees fuck eacother?
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 242d
Because it's hot, don't kink shame my very specific fetish
just2look@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 242d
Yeah, I was just trying to point out the absurdity of trying to assign gender to either of them.
Most bees people think of are worker or queen bees (female) while the birds people tend to picture are bright and colorful (males) or the songs (also typically males). On the other hand people associate birds and egg laying (so I suppose femaleish) and bees have a stinger that could symbolize a penis (though if you have a barbed and venomous penis please stay far away from me).
So I vote you pick based solely on vibes instead of gender. Hell, I vote we take it a step further and stop gendering bathrooms at all. Just put random unrelated symbols and people can pick which they like. So like one with a book, the other with cheese. Or whatever else you want. Make it a big poop related social experiment.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 241d
this
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 241d
I learned about penises and vaginas and menstruation in sex ed. Insects and avians were not covered!
twinnie@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 242d
In the UK women can be called birds but it’s considered a bit tasteless nowadays.
KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d
The, female, Queen Bee is iconic.
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 241d
All bees are female, except the drones which are only grown when needed.
vane@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 241d
If it's yellow poop go to bees if it's white go to birds.
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 240d
Bee if you want to get stung, bird if you want to get shat on.
Either way, you're fucked.
dx1@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 241d
Bee
tunderboy@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 240d
Haha you’re right!
Goretantath@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 242d
Bees have a stinger so I assume that's the penis analogue.
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 242d
Only female bees have stingers tho
LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 242d
Yes but birds have peckers
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 241d
Only female bees have stingers