That ICE guy totally didn't know how to use the jumper cables. "With help from another community member", pictures with ICE guy standing around watching.
Dead batteries can off-gas hydrogen sulfide, which can be explodey. Also, you don't know what issues a "dead" battery might be experiencing. There could be a broken post, which could lead to sparks inside of the battery. This is why if there's going to be a spark, you'd rather it be on the battery that's less likely to emit hydrogen sulfide, and you want to be away from the battery that's more likely to go boom or spray.
So, connect the hot dead nipple first, then the hot live nipple. Then the live common (negative, neutral) nipple, and finally, some grounded spot on the dead body. This way, you can avoid sparks near the dead nipples, and possible explosions.
To further the human body metaphor:
One of the reasons you connect the negative jumper cable to bare metal on the car instead of the negative battery post is that terminals corrode and you might not get a good connection with an alligator clamp, but something grounded to the car probably has a decent connection. Similarly, the reason you place AED pads so far from each other on someone is because you're creating a setup where the heart is somewhere within that path. Could you use less power and cause less damage if the pads were more local to the heart? Yes. But you can't guarantee accurate placement. So, you pump up the juice, and use any somewhat adjacent known "grounding" point.
"Here, buddy. Hold this one in that hand and that one in the other hand. You want to make sure the metal doesn't touch, so you should probably hold on tight to the copper tips so you know they can't touch each other. OK? You have a good grip? Good. I'll connect my leads to the battery now."
ICE's feed says that they did this jump start thing, but let's get real. It probably never happened.
These are the same people who lied and said that an officer suffered internal bleeding after he clearly didn't get hit by anything. These are the same people who lied and said that they killed a man who was brandishing a weapon threateningly and their agents feared for their lives despite the fact that he never touched the gun and was disarmed at the time of the shooting.
If ICE says something that benefits themselves, then I have no reason to believe it's true. This is the slant to take whenever you get any information from a source of propaganda.
That's a picture of ICE agents walking near a car with jumper cables connected. Maybe they saw somebody getting jumped and photobombed. Maybe they just used one of their own cars and the entire scene is staged.
Even in the extremely remote possibility that they actually did something to make another person's life easier, they ruined it by taking pictures of it. That would mean that they only helped as PR.
There is no reason to believe when a known propagandist tells you something like this. You should first expect them to lie or distort the truth.
Just as a PSA, factually.co doesn’t have human fact checkers, it’s all AI. In this instance the headline is correct, but it’s always better to use something written by a person if it’s information you care about.
Thank fuck that’s done by humans. The idea of using AI for obituaries sounds intensely disrespectful. Like, “Hey, we loved you, but not enough to actually write something loving about you.”
If somebody uses AI to write mine, I’d go haunting the shit out of whoever made that decision.
Pure propaganda. The driver was likely one of them that radioed for assistance. So they came and, coincidentally, "noticed a man experiencing car trouble," right where he told them he'd be.
Or, the entire thing was staged. Remember, this is the party that invented the concept of "paid crisis actors.".
Liars never seem to figure out that, once we know that they're liars, we don't believe a fucking thing they say, because, why should we?
Like those clips of people pushing a shark back into the ocean off the beach. They never show the part where they hooked it and reeled it out of the ocean. “Look at us saving this shark!”
I've caught a shark on accident, and pulled it in so I could remove the hook and release it. I don't find it fun, but it's better than just cutting the line and leaving a barbed piece of metal in the animal.
I also don't generally practice "catch and release" fishing. I fish for food (mostly crappie) because I think catch and release is just being a dick to fish for no reason.
I don't go to the ranch and shoot deer in the leg, get a few pics, then send it onnits way, so why would I do the same to fish?
Yeah, when any kind of law enforcement shows up anywhere, I just want to get out of there. You never know if his boss just chewed him out, or his wife chewed him out, or his mistress chewed him out, or some citizen chewed him out, etc., but in any case, he's probably pissed off, and looking to take it out on the first person that makes eye contact.
When a cop walks in, your chances of dying of a gunshot wound in the next few minutes just went up 1000%.
What a nice wholesome interaction with the masked paramilitary kidnap force.
Imagine, if this really happened, this guy didn't know who they were and didn't know anything about ice and was like "I really appreciate you guys who are you guys anyway?"
"We're ice"
"Oh I don't know who that is. What brings you to town?"
"We're here to kidnap men, women and children and put them in cages"
"Uh.."
"Yeah, you hear about that guy who got held down and shot in the back of the head execution style?"
"I did hear something about that. We're you there to help him...?"
"Haha. No, we're the ones that shot him. That's why we wear these masks"
"Oh I thought you had those because it's cold"
"Haha no no no no. It's because we don't want people to be able to identify us and hold us accountable for our crimes."
"Uh...I really gotta go"
"Sure thing buddy. Hey, before you go. You don't happen to know any brown people do you?"
Listen, if a man beats his wife even once, let alone multiple times, but he also helps her fix her car, he’s still a wife-beating piece of shit.
An abuser is an abuser. It doesn’t matter how nice he is the other times.
"With help from another community member"??? They don't know how to jump start a car? Who the fuck needs help connecting TWO battery terminals? This is just bizarre, and probably fake anyway.
Armed-and-masked-charm-offensives don't work. You can bring me tea and biscuits while armed and masked, but it's not a lack of tea and biscuits that causes my fear, it's the fact that you're armed and masked.
I'm going to get a couple of guys together and dress up as ICE agents and hand out free slushies and corn dogs in a pathetic-looking PR damage-control stunt.
What's with the useless attempt at redacting the name? Redacting a name in an image seems super trivial, and yet they seem to think they want to redact their name but leave it utterly readable...
59 Comments
Drusas@fedia.io · 108 pts · 203d
That ICE guy totally didn't know how to use the jumper cables. "With help from another community member", pictures with ICE guy standing around watching.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 29 pts · 203d
They know but only if it’s on the nipples of a person.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 22 pts · 203d
Be sure to connect the grounded nipple first.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
What??? No!
Dead batteries can off-gas hydrogen sulfide, which can be explodey. Also, you don't know what issues a "dead" battery might be experiencing. There could be a broken post, which could lead to sparks inside of the battery. This is why if there's going to be a spark, you'd rather it be on the battery that's less likely to emit hydrogen sulfide, and you want to be away from the battery that's more likely to go boom or spray.
So, connect the hot dead nipple first, then the hot live nipple. Then the live common (negative, neutral) nipple, and finally, some grounded spot on the dead body. This way, you can avoid sparks near the dead nipples, and possible explosions.
To further the human body metaphor:
One of the reasons you connect the negative jumper cable to bare metal on the car instead of the negative battery post is that terminals corrode and you might not get a good connection with an alligator clamp, but something grounded to the car probably has a decent connection. Similarly, the reason you place AED pads so far from each other on someone is because you're creating a setup where the heart is somewhere within that path. Could you use less power and cause less damage if the pads were more local to the heart? Yes. But you can't guarantee accurate placement. So, you pump up the juice, and use any somewhat adjacent known "grounding" point.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 203d
woulda been difficult for me to not suggest they get clamped to the agent's testicles.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 203d
"Here, buddy. Hold this one in that hand and that one in the other hand. You want to make sure the metal doesn't touch, so you should probably hold on tight to the copper tips so you know they can't touch each other. OK? You have a good grip? Good. I'll connect my leads to the battery now."
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 203d
Then connect 1 to ground and the other to a spark plug lead.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 203d
Easy to restrain yourself when you know he doesn't have any.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 203d
I was thinking they’d clamp them to the guys nipples. That or just beat him with them.
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 202d
Lmao, I missed that but this is a surprisingly honest way that they phrased this (while trying to infer otherwise).
rainwall@piefed.social · 2 pts · 202d
They cant even tell the truth when it utterly doesnt matter.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 92 pts · 203d
ICE's feed says that they did this jump start thing, but let's get real. It probably never happened.
These are the same people who lied and said that an officer suffered internal bleeding after he clearly didn't get hit by anything. These are the same people who lied and said that they killed a man who was brandishing a weapon threateningly and their agents feared for their lives despite the fact that he never touched the gun and was disarmed at the time of the shooting.
If ICE says something that benefits themselves, then I have no reason to believe it's true. This is the slant to take whenever you get any information from a source of propaganda.
That's a picture of ICE agents walking near a car with jumper cables connected. Maybe they saw somebody getting jumped and photobombed. Maybe they just used one of their own cars and the entire scene is staged.
Even in the extremely remote possibility that they actually did something to make another person's life easier, they ruined it by taking pictures of it. That would mean that they only helped as PR.
There is no reason to believe when a known propagandist tells you something like this. You should first expect them to lie or distort the truth.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 55 pts · 203d
Tryinng to sell an act of basic human decency as something worthy of applause is not the kind of PR they think it is.
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 45 pts · 203d
Just as a PSA, factually.co doesn’t have human fact checkers, it’s all AI. In this instance the headline is correct, but it’s always better to use something written by a person if it’s information you care about.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 203d
that's... going to end well.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 203d
Damnit that's me I'm the fucking obit guy, (was), and that job is not available to machine learning. The obit guy calls people and talks to them.
Edit And goes to visit. As a non religious person, I'm into this
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 203d
Thank fuck that’s done by humans. The idea of using AI for obituaries sounds intensely disrespectful. Like, “Hey, we loved you, but not enough to actually write something loving about you.”
If somebody uses AI to write mine, I’d go haunting the shit out of whoever made that decision.
nulluser@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 202d
Pure propaganda. The driver was likely one of them that radioed for assistance. So they came and, coincidentally, "noticed a man experiencing car trouble," right where he told them he'd be.
Or, the entire thing was staged. Remember, this is the party that invented the concept of "paid crisis actors.".
Liars never seem to figure out that, once we know that they're liars, we don't believe a fucking thing they say, because, why should we?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 202d
Like those clips of people pushing a shark back into the ocean off the beach. They never show the part where they hooked it and reeled it out of the ocean. “Look at us saving this shark!”
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 202d
I mean... yeah that does happen.
I've caught a shark on accident, and pulled it in so I could remove the hook and release it. I don't find it fun, but it's better than just cutting the line and leaving a barbed piece of metal in the animal.
I also don't generally practice "catch and release" fishing. I fish for food (mostly crappie) because I think catch and release is just being a dick to fish for no reason.
I don't go to the ranch and shoot deer in the leg, get a few pics, then send it onnits way, so why would I do the same to fish?
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 203d
"ok guys, we staged our good deed for the year, now let's get back to shooting peaceful protesters in the face!"
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 203d
"Aw, you guys did good today. Tomorrow you can kill as many innocent American citizens as you like, okay? Who wants ice cream?"
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 2 pts · 203d
Good way to get shot by nazis.
ODuffer@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 203d
That guy must have been SO white.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 203d
Whitey McWeissman. They could probably hardly see him with all the snow around.
regedit@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 203d
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 27 pts · 203d
Yeah, when any kind of law enforcement shows up anywhere, I just want to get out of there. You never know if his boss just chewed him out, or his wife chewed him out, or his mistress chewed him out, or some citizen chewed him out, etc., but in any case, he's probably pissed off, and looking to take it out on the first person that makes eye contact.
When a cop walks in, your chances of dying of a gunshot wound in the next few minutes just went up 1000%.
No thanks, Imma bounce.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 203d
becareful though, whoever chewed him out might have rabies
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 203d
RattlerSix@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 203d
What a nice wholesome interaction with the masked paramilitary kidnap force.
Imagine, if this really happened, this guy didn't know who they were and didn't know anything about ice and was like "I really appreciate you guys who are you guys anyway?"
"We're ice"
"Oh I don't know who that is. What brings you to town?"
"We're here to kidnap men, women and children and put them in cages"
"Uh.."
"Yeah, you hear about that guy who got held down and shot in the back of the head execution style?"
"I did hear something about that. We're you there to help him...?"
"Haha. No, we're the ones that shot him. That's why we wear these masks"
"Oh I thought you had those because it's cold"
"Haha no no no no. It's because we don't want people to be able to identify us and hold us accountable for our crimes."
"Uh...I really gotta go"
"Sure thing buddy. Hey, before you go. You don't happen to know any brown people do you?"
"Nope, sure don't. Gotta go. Byeee!"
Zomg@piefed.world · 24 pts · 203d
Now do it without needing to take pictures.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 24 pts · 203d
Reminds me of that time an acorn fell on the hood of a police car and they started blasting.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 203d
Seriously so fucking hilarious.
“Oh, I’m hit, I’m hit!”
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 203d
I would literally refuse their help
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 203d
Listen, if a man beats his wife even once, let alone multiple times, but he also helps her fix her car, he’s still a wife-beating piece of shit.
An abuser is an abuser. It doesn’t matter how nice he is the other times.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 203d
Lemme guess, it was a white guy's car, right?
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 13 pts · 203d
32? i would be surprised if the numbers are so low, 32 are the ones we know of...
dellish@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 203d
"With help from another community member"??? They don't know how to jump start a car? Who the fuck needs help connecting TWO battery terminals? This is just bizarre, and probably fake anyway.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 203d
Most drivers have no idea where the battery even is.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
if you connect red to black, it does cause problems.
Deadeyegai@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 203d
Yeah.....nice try. They were looking for trouble and didn't find any so then tried to pivot it into a "good-feel" fascist story
boletus@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 202d
It is probably a staged photo anyways
Soulg@ani.social · 1 pts · 202d
Id believe this really happened, doesn't fucking change anything though
If there were any decent people who were ICE agents, they would've resigned months ago. And that's a big if, I'm just a lot more charitable than most
Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social · 9 pts · 202d
Armed-and-masked-charm-offensives don't work. You can bring me tea and biscuits while armed and masked, but it's not a lack of tea and biscuits that causes my fear, it's the fact that you're armed and masked.
daannii@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 203d
I bet they were planning on kidnapping him and then saw he was white.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 203d
Lmao the secret police will help you with your car tricky. Or they will disappear you.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 202d
LOOK at that! ICE Jumpstarting someone's Car AFTER Detaining their Children and stealing the Vehicle! How SWEET <3!
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 203d
Orphan-crushing machine temporarily used for good, more heartwarming stories at 7
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 202d
I'll bet they made damn sure they were helping one of THEIRS first, though.
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 202d
humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 203d
Shakobee is the county seat of Scott County. Guess who won in that county the last three presidential elections.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 203d
That's because the man was another ICE agent
modus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 202d
I'm going to get a couple of guys together and dress up as ICE agents and hand out free slushies and corn dogs in a pathetic-looking PR damage-control stunt.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 203d
Join ICE!
Travel to cool new places!
Meet new and interesting people!
Arrest them and Kill them! and then get sent home to hide like a coward!
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 202d
That’s after they seized the tow truck driver who showed up to give the guy a jump but had a south of the border last name. Photo op time!
RetroLemmings@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 202d
They probably stopped to check his papers first, saw he was white, and offered help.
I imagine if it was a latino they would have kidnapped him.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
I guess that ammends all their past, present, and future actions.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
I don't see any green text but this thing gives off anon energy.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
What's with the useless attempt at redacting the name? Redacting a name in an image seems super trivial, and yet they seem to think they want to redact their name but leave it utterly readable...
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 202d
It's too bad two good apples can't fix a whole bushel.
I take that back, this was probably staged or just ai generated.