Homeland Security has reportedly sent out hundreds of subpoenas to identify ICE critics online

Rights for me, rules for thee!

It was always projection. They accuse their enemies of what they themselves wanted to do.

No, what will happen is they'll use an LLM to analyze the data.

The LLM will falsely tag millions of people.

There will be some notable wrong arrests, and then six months later those people, after having their lives ruined, will sell their stories. They don't have the intelligence, manpower, or discipline to parse this data intelligently or accurately.

And if it makes you feel better, consider how many contexts the word 'Ice' can be used in.

They only ever cared about r words and n words and f words. Having actual moral convictions requires a conscience

Of course. All of that was to get people used to it.

Fascists have no values. They say whatever they want to further their objectives.

Gotta have lists ready for when the new larger camps are open. Haha?

Rules for thee, not for me.

That’s the scary part! To what degree do you have to be anti-ice to get on their radar?! Protester? Shit talker? Meme sharer?

probably the ones that will be the best targets for being made an example of

Exactly. They can target anyone.

I would guess it's probably focused on ones that are prosecutable as threats. That would be enough for it to not be protected as free speech.

We'll have to wait to know for sure though.

Signed pretty much EVERY FUCKING MENTALLY SANE AMERICAN.

So like... About a third of the country?

BuT ThAt WoUlD CoLlAPsE tHe GoVerMent

I would love journalists to rake discord over the coals for this and have them explain exactly how they think that this mentality is acceptable in the current political climate. Of course they won't because journalism is dead these days.

Speaking of, what's the open alternative to discord? If there is one that is

User was subpoenaed for this post

If you're over 18, your too old for them.

They can also lick my taint, eat my shit, and drink my piss.

Stand-up. Fight back.

Israel first.

Speaking the truth about the fascists in power.

Laws don't matter anymore, there is no more order. They are not being followed, and the ones used to hard you are being made up.

Anti fascism

"Woke liberal commie antifa terrorism"

on a sidenote, the company behind DISCORDS age verification, and other online verfication was PALINTIR .

Terrorism is going to become so hot this year.

I read a speculation somewhere that DHS want to declare all opposition to their activities as domestic terrorists and then remove their right to vote. There have been multiple articles detailing how the people who follow agents around and report their location are served papers later declaring them to be domestic terrorists and then they are placed on a no fly list. I'm sure more is to come. Reportedly, all the agents use facial recognition cameras to sweep the crowds for logging in a database, but another report suggests that the recognition part isn't working so well.

So, from Russia - let's see how people in your country of "dignity and culture to resist oppression and deep institutions" will pass through that future. From someone "not protesting enough" and "feeding the regime with my taxes" and "feeling fine when Ukrainians suffer" (technically true, except might not be the only thing true).

Reddit was already bad enough before they went public. Going public makes a company so much less trustworthy, and so much more beholden to government and other big business over their own protection of their users and products to grow their platform.

Partially it happens at the moment when a company's growth is rather saturated and they decide to maximize revenue, the entire corporate internet reached that point in the last 5 years really, the enshitification.

Welcome to Lemmy!

It's "administrative warrants" so it's not even a court officer. It's the police calling something a warrant that is a request by law enforcement to get the information. No judges, no courts are involved as I understand it.

This way though it sounds like they had to comply. Reddit did mostly comply by the way.

I'd rather not. They probably don't even wash their ass.

Dammit I thought I was original by playing oo de la li

To be fair, the dems also want, and use, authoritarian levers these days. Also, historically, they've been very ineffectual when it comes to pushing through progressive items -- see the USA as the only advanced economy without public healthcare as an easy example, or them being the only country without basic gun laws.

Heck, one of the very few legit points Trump made in the one weaksauce debate he had with Biden, was along the lines of "If tariffs are so bad, why'd you guys leave all the tariffs in place from my first term?". If there's an election, and if they win, I doubt the dems will really do all that much.

Idk. To me it's starting to look increasingly like there are irreconcilable differences between what the majority seem to want, and what a small rich minority wants. There are maga dads shooting their daughters, in maga states, over political shit, and they get let off by their maga jury. You've got red state ICE troops deploying to blue state cities explicitly to terrorize the population -- those same troops are shooting people in the streets with zero accountability, protected by a group of people who are increasingly looking like ultra rich pedophiles of a very depraved sort. A group of individuals who are basically Americas ruling class, with likely ties between their pedophile island crimes, to Israel and Russia, and the USA's unquestioning support of the atrocities being committed on the other side of the world.

It's really difficult to picture what you'd need to do as a politician, to 'make this right' for the people in blue states/cities. If the people demand accountability for all the shit that's gone on, it'll enrage the right further. If you don't hold them accountable, well everyone's seen the result of not holding Trump accountable for the Jan 6 insurrection -- it just gets worse and worse. They're already at a point where they're shooting dem civilians in the streets with impunity, and with 'righteous fury' automatically labelling these people terrorists/enemies of the states. Even using AI to alter photos of protesters to feed the propaganda machine.

Really feels like there's increasingly a chance for a civil war in the usa.

If they don't fuck off, I am standing with you, Second Amendment in hand.

"Reportedly", as in, according to someone else's report. In this case, that'd be Sheera Frenkel and Mike Isaac at The New York Times ( archive ).

Unless your quibble is with their sources, which are kept anonymous:

In recent months, Google, Reddit, Discord and Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, have received hundreds of administrative subpoenas from the Department of Homeland Security, according to four government officials and tech employees privy to the requests. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

It'll be hard to burn through the remaining funds of unlimited funds. But I hope it happens.

This you?

Looks like it's hosted by Cloudflare.

Move to smaller instances. There was a huge problem with everybody being on like four big instances and the whole point of federation is you don't have to be like that.

Move to instances hosted on a laptop in someone's basement in Peru with like 106 users or something. Make the fascists work for it, if you all conglomerate on one big host then they've got an easy target and you've got a massive single point of failure.

I sincerely hope you’re right and stay safe.

Uhhh, you're right of course, but dont think for a second your comments here are not seen by the fascists too.

Under fascism anything they don't like is retrospectively illegal. I'm surprised you don't know that.

Your instance is behind cloudflare where the tls communication between you and the server terminates, where they get all your data in cleartext.

Cloudflare is a US based company.

I think it's the other way around. Everyone is "safe" from those on Lemmy because what's our reach?

We have two choices. Go out on our feet or on our knees. I'm not kneeling.

They use whatever name is on the account and the URL for the content.