You can just search for it, you don't need ads for that. Ads is a really bad way to find out about options, because it's never about quality, it's all about appearance.
How would you know what to search for? Some advertising is fine - a sign for a restaurant or industry mailers or magazines, "related products", etc etc are all very tame forms of advertising. The problem is hyperintrusive advertising which has now spiraled so far into hell that it drives a model of data harvesting and content slop that's slowly tainting all access to information we have.
Because of the needs I have, when I am hungry ill search for recipes or restaurants. When my apartment needs cleaning ill search for cleaning supplies, when I am bored ill look up what movies are playing.
I actually can not come up with a single situation where advertisement would be needed or helpful in anyway. I also do not have a problem with smaller advertisement, but in my dreams they are all banned regardless. Won't be missing those.
So how do people get on the internet or in the store? Heck, how do you know that the store exists in the first place (and if the store doesn't have what you need, what do you do?)
I'm just after a middle ground - the current insanity of advertising is obviously too much, but the idea of doing away with it entirely isn't feasible either. Burning all the advertising execs at the stake might be a good place to start in terms of reforming things...
I see what you're saying, but the obvious distinction here is that if someone is actively searching e.g. Google for a product, they don't mind being shown products (and by extension being advertised to) - they're actively seeking it out. What everyone has a problem with is being shown advertisements for products when they aren't seeking them out and in fact actively want to avoid them.
Thank you! The unending intrusiveness of modern advertising really has killed and buried the useful parts of advertising by becoming the norm, I wholeheartedly agree.
I walk to the store, I check what's there, I ask an employee for help, then make my own decision. If it's shit, I don't get it again and tell who I know to avoid it. I don't get products that people I trust have had bas experiences with.
Advertisements are lying. Every dollar spent on marketing is a dollar that could have been spent either improving your product or paying your staff. If you advertise to me, I will actively avoid your product.
You walk to what store? How do you know the store exists? How do you know what the store sells? What if you live in a small town that doesn't have a store that sells the required thing? How do you know where to drive to to? All this basic information about the store itself is coming from advertising. It's not just about popups annoying you online.
When I moved to my current town, the first thing I did was figure out where all the grocery stores, the post office, and the library are. Do you really rely on advertising to tell you what to do? You can just see grocery store and say, "Yes, they probably sell cheese" and then go in?
I mean, that's why mattress stores have so many physical locations. They're the closest thing to a clickable ad IRL, since they mostly exist as oversized billboards with a store attached
So you look for items in blank white cardboard boxes that only have a technical definition of the item contained inside?
Logos and packaging are advertising the product inside. Your friends recommending you a product is advertising that product. A company having a website is advertising. The grocery store advertising that an item is on sale is...advertising. It's all advertising.
What we actually hate is intrusive and malicious advertising as well as false advertising. Like billboards. Fuck billboards.
If I search out your service and find you? Okay. Though people game this system obviously. Google used to fight back against this but now they don’t care and even have just given in, allowing pay to play. So fuck that too
I think an even more important aspect to me is something I don't have a good term for, but something like honesty/intrusiveness. The key issue is that advertisement should be an honest, truthful, non-deceitful representation of a good/service. But instead ads are designed to catch your eye, insert themselves into your thoughts with catchy music, play on your emotions even using kids, all while avoiding really telling you what they're about.
On the note of consent, it reminds me of a certain website for webnovels, which hosts ads submitted by users, for their own novels. It's been kind of ruined by GenAI, but it feels very different when the ads are often badly made memes about the premise of the story, since that's what you're already on the site for and it's the actual authors wanting to share their stories.
Let's say I go to an Invasion Day rally where thousands of people are protesting against the current date of Australia Day because it celebrates colonialism. I bring with Me a stack of flyers about the pro-Palestine rally in two weeks. I hand them out to protesters and say "There's more colonialism happening right now in Palestine. Come to this protest too."
Some local news sites in my city show local ads that are simply static images loaded in their pages, mimicking traditional newspaper ads, without any kind of tracking. Although it's questionable at a philosophical level if ads can be ethical, I can live with it, and that method will pass automated adblockers, so it's a win-win.
I could almost live with ads if they were static, but the typical article-reading experience without afblock goes like this:
See the first paragraph. Start reading. An autoplay video pops in at the top of the page obscuring the view. You scroll down but it's pinned to the top of the viewport. You close it with the miniscule x button. You finish the first paragraph and scroll down past a huge ad to the next paragraph. A banner ad appears at the bottom of the page. You dismiss it with the x. You start reading and two seconds later the banner you dismissed reappears with a new ad, obscuring the content again. You try to dismiss it, but miss and open the ad. Press back in the browser and start again from step 1.
Its exhausting, and it's so painfully constrained, like trying to view a webpage by peeking at it through someone's letterbox.
The Internet with ads, as it stands, is not worth seeing.
Not to mention it greatly lowered the quality of content. Now it's 95% getting a catchy clickbate title with the actual body often not even agreeing with the title. It's fucking exhausting.
I think the biggest issue with personalised ads is that they can exploit weaknesses in people are prevent public discourse about themselves (since they're different for everyone), which is especially bad for political ads. So these ads that you're describing seem good in my book.
They certainly are. I met one of those people in the middle, and they also had interesting opinions on other things like immigration and women's sports...
I remember when the white box Google Ad Words(?) first started appearing in sidebars of sites and being creeped out that they kind of knew what I was in to. Now that is everywhere.
Adblockers came up in conversation with a (non-techie) friend the other day and they said they don't have one because they are afraid they'd "get the wrong one" or end up with a virus trying to download "something like that" because they've had trouble with those shady download websites that have a ton of fake download buttons... Like, they look at adblocker as if it is the most scandalous form of piracy or something.
This seems flipped, there's no way a majority of people like ads.
Honestly from some of the interactions I've had with my peers I didn't even think of the meme as strange.
Like one time I saw my roommate running Opera GX of all browsers without any adblockers and I asked him "don't these ads bother you?" and he responded, I shit you not, "no, quite the opposite! they're really helpful!". I didn't say anything because at that moment I was genuinely stunlocked.
Fun fact: not where I live. Billboards are not allowed within 18 metres of a road, and any business signage has to be both on the property of the business and at least 4 metres away from the road. You can easily walk around down town and see exactly 0 ads and it is bliss.
I also said walk through. Doesn't matter where you are, walking or driving, you will not see ads for things unless you are actively looking at a business advertising itself.
That’s such a weird thing to say. Ads don’t show you things that are good, if they were better products they wouldn’t need to press you over it. I can’t think of a time where I found something cool I didn’t know about through an ad, short of movie trailers that I actively sought out.
For example, a few years back I found out that safety razors shave closer, give me less razor burn, and cost 100x less than cartridge razors. Which one of the two gets ads?
I think you’re just used to the lemmy(/reddit) crowd. Pretty much everyone I casually know has ads when they show me something on youtube. Every time I ask “Why not use an adblocker?” they reply either “The ads don’t bother me” or “I want to support the content creators”.
Doesn’t make sense to me. I’ll buy some swag or donate to creators I like, but I am not voluntarily watching ads.
I know several people who only watched the Superbowl for the advertisments / halftime show.
Regardless of how shitty it is, one of the big cultural touchstones is also the advertisements they played on tv when someone was growing up. A lot of people use ads as another way to connect with a new person; meeting a other local to your area means you can mention a particularly overplayed ad from childhood and likely be able to find another person who saw it growing up too.
A lot of people use ads as another way to connect with a new person; meeting a other local to your area means you can mention a particularly overplayed ad from childhood and likely be able to find another person who saw it growing up too.
Do you think this is true for younger generations than millennials? Obviously ads with high production value like matt damon's fortune favors the brave gets talked about, but I don't know anyone who makes cultural references to a generic ad on TV or YouTube with average production value. I think for the average advertisement nowadays, there's too much saturation of content and not everyone watching ads, that you couldn't have a normal ad like this mundane Sears Air Conditioner commercial be ingrained in kids memories.
You know, I expect that the generational divide will change which ads people connect over, but I don't think that the majority of people will stop using them as a way of connection.
The new hotness is making fun of raid shadow legends, and I expect there's several others I just don't know about as well.
AdNauseum has a built in whitelist for ethical ads which I'm happy to leave enabled. I see them on some blogs I read and on the option search page for Home Manager.
The only argument ive seen with any weight is for content creators whose revenue stream is ad dependent, and even then sorry not sorry im not turning off ublock
I didn't see an ad in actual years, and went to a friend's house a day ago and saw a singular ad, I instantly got whiplash like "holy crap, people actually live like this". Feels like a lack of standards almost
98 Comments
LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca · 138 pts · 165d
Advertising unethical
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 165d
I'd say it's not inherently unethical. How else would you find out about options for a thing you need?
How current the ad industry works however, can die in a fire.
TheYojimbo@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 165d
You can just search for it, you don't need ads for that. Ads is a really bad way to find out about options, because it's never about quality, it's all about appearance.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 165d
How would you know what to search for? Some advertising is fine - a sign for a restaurant or industry mailers or magazines, "related products", etc etc are all very tame forms of advertising. The problem is hyperintrusive advertising which has now spiraled so far into hell that it drives a model of data harvesting and content slop that's slowly tainting all access to information we have.
vogi@piefed.social · 19 pts · 165d
Because of the needs I have, when I am hungry ill search for recipes or restaurants. When my apartment needs cleaning ill search for cleaning supplies, when I am bored ill look up what movies are playing.
I actually can not come up with a single situation where advertisement would be needed or helpful in anyway. I also do not have a problem with smaller advertisement, but in my dreams they are all banned regardless. Won't be missing those.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 164d
Okay, to break down the point: search for them where?
vogi@piefed.social · 19 pts · 164d
I guess on the internet or in the store.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 164d
So how do people get on the internet or in the store? Heck, how do you know that the store exists in the first place (and if the store doesn't have what you need, what do you do?)
I'm just after a middle ground - the current insanity of advertising is obviously too much, but the idea of doing away with it entirely isn't feasible either. Burning all the advertising execs at the stake might be a good place to start in terms of reforming things...
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 11 pts · 164d
I see what you're saying, but the obvious distinction here is that if someone is actively searching e.g. Google for a product, they don't mind being shown products (and by extension being advertised to) - they're actively seeking it out. What everyone has a problem with is being shown advertisements for products when they aren't seeking them out and in fact actively want to avoid them.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 164d
Thank you! The unending intrusiveness of modern advertising really has killed and buried the useful parts of advertising by becoming the norm, I wholeheartedly agree.
Rothe@piefed.social · 5 pts · 164d
In the ancient days we had a thing called the yellow pages.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 164d
Just FYI, any entry in the Yellow Pages other than the plain text, non-bold, name+phone number format entries were also paid for advertisements.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 164d
Yeah, exactly!
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 165d
The search results are ads. If I'm looking to buy a table, those don't inherently come with a webpage. The website in its entirety is an ad.
modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 164d
making an item accessible to being searched for is a form of advertising
LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 164d
I walk to the store, I check what's there, I ask an employee for help, then make my own decision. If it's shit, I don't get it again and tell who I know to avoid it. I don't get products that people I trust have had bas experiences with.
Advertisements are lying. Every dollar spent on marketing is a dollar that could have been spent either improving your product or paying your staff. If you advertise to me, I will actively avoid your product.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 164d
You walk to what store? How do you know the store exists? How do you know what the store sells? What if you live in a small town that doesn't have a store that sells the required thing? How do you know where to drive to to? All this basic information about the store itself is coming from advertising. It's not just about popups annoying you online.
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 164d
When I moved to my current town, the first thing I did was figure out where all the grocery stores, the post office, and the library are. Do you really rely on advertising to tell you what to do? You can just see grocery store and say, "Yes, they probably sell cheese" and then go in?
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 164d
Ok, what store do you go to in your town for specialized tools to fix your car?
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 164d
The auto parts store across the street from the grocery store
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 164d
It sounds like you're considering the sign above a store to be an advertisement.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 164d
It is. Why do you think store logos aren't just a plain text sign on the door? That would be far cheaper for the store to do.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 164d
...yes?
Ratio_Tile@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 164d
I mean, that's why mattress stores have so many physical locations. They're the closest thing to a clickable ad IRL, since they mostly exist as oversized billboards with a store attached
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 164d
So you look for items in blank white cardboard boxes that only have a technical definition of the item contained inside?
Logos and packaging are advertising the product inside. Your friends recommending you a product is advertising that product. A company having a website is advertising. The grocery store advertising that an item is on sale is...advertising. It's all advertising.
What we actually hate is intrusive and malicious advertising as well as false advertising. Like billboards. Fuck billboards.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 164d
Consent is a key factor.
If you mail me an ad? Fuck you.
If I search out your service and find you? Okay. Though people game this system obviously. Google used to fight back against this but now they don’t care and even have just given in, allowing pay to play. So fuck that too
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 164d
I think an even more important aspect to me is something I don't have a good term for, but something like honesty/intrusiveness. The key issue is that advertisement should be an honest, truthful, non-deceitful representation of a good/service. But instead ads are designed to catch your eye, insert themselves into your thoughts with catchy music, play on your emotions even using kids, all while avoiding really telling you what they're about.
On the note of consent, it reminds me of a certain website for webnovels, which hosts ads submitted by users, for their own novels. It's been kind of ruined by GenAI, but it feels very different when the ads are often badly made memes about the premise of the story, since that's what you're already on the site for and it's the actual authors wanting to share their stories.
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 1 pts · 164d
it's inherently unethical to me because these companies have decided without my consent that they're entitled to my attention
ieatpwns@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 165d
Advertising is attention rape
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 3 pts · 164d
Let's say I go to an Invasion Day rally where thousands of people are protesting against the current date of Australia Day because it celebrates colonialism. I bring with Me a stack of flyers about the pro-Palestine rally in two weeks. I hand them out to protesters and say "There's more colonialism happening right now in Palestine. Come to this protest too."
morto@piefed.social · 70 pts · 164d
Some local news sites in my city show local ads that are simply static images loaded in their pages, mimicking traditional newspaper ads, without any kind of tracking. Although it's questionable at a philosophical level if ads can be ethical, I can live with it, and that method will pass automated adblockers, so it's a win-win.
CommissarVulpin@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 164d
You know, I think I’d be okay with that. As long as it’s not something that’s begging for your attention or trying to get you to click on it.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 164d
Or loading at random intervals so you have to scroll around to find where you were before the page jumped around. Very little infuriates me more.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 164d
I could almost live with ads if they were static, but the typical article-reading experience without afblock goes like this:
See the first paragraph. Start reading. An autoplay video pops in at the top of the page obscuring the view. You scroll down but it's pinned to the top of the viewport. You close it with the miniscule x button. You finish the first paragraph and scroll down past a huge ad to the next paragraph. A banner ad appears at the bottom of the page. You dismiss it with the x. You start reading and two seconds later the banner you dismissed reappears with a new ad, obscuring the content again. You try to dismiss it, but miss and open the ad. Press back in the browser and start again from step 1.
Its exhausting, and it's so painfully constrained, like trying to view a webpage by peeking at it through someone's letterbox.
The Internet with ads, as it stands, is not worth seeing.
fishy@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 164d
Not to mention it greatly lowered the quality of content. Now it's 95% getting a catchy clickbate title with the actual body often not even agreeing with the title. It's fucking exhausting.
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 164d
I think the biggest issue with personalised ads is that they can exploit weaknesses in people are prevent public discourse about themselves (since they're different for everyone), which is especially bad for political ads. So these ads that you're describing seem good in my book.
negativenull@piefed.world · 53 pts · 165d
Ads are violence on the mind.
Adblocking is good security.
attero@discuss.tchncs.de · 23 pts · 164d
Adblock is digital self defense against malware for your pc, as well as your mind.
https://xcancel.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1569083806224715776
sheetzoos@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 164d
pringus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 164d
ad blockers are necessary to effectively navigate the internet
festnt@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 164d
fandom.com is bad WITH an adblocker, i would never consider opening it without one
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 164d
anyone who would seriously think using adblock is unethical is a bootlick
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 164d
They certainly are. I met one of those people in the middle, and they also had interesting opinions on other things like immigration and women's sports...
ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 164d
I'm old enough to remember when the internet managed to end banner ads, popup ads, and flashing ads....
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 163d
I remember when the white box Google Ad Words(?) first started appearing in sidebars of sites and being creeped out that they kind of knew what I was in to. Now that is everywhere.
Railing5132@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 163d
I remember it before ads...
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 165d
Ad networks are known to be a large distributor of malware and scams.
it’s prudent to block ads.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 165d
Adblock smart is high iq.
Crozekiel@piefed.zip · 13 pts · 165d
Adblockers came up in conversation with a (non-techie) friend the other day and they said they don't have one because they are afraid they'd "get the wrong one" or end up with a virus trying to download "something like that" because they've had trouble with those shady download websites that have a ton of fake download buttons... Like, they look at adblocker as if it is the most scandalous form of piracy or something.
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 165d
This seems flipped, there's no way a majority of people like ads.
Maybe it should be Low IQ are people who don't know what an ad blocker is, and High IQ are people who say ad blocking is unethical.
brachypelmide@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 165d
Honestly from some of the interactions I've had with my peers I didn't even think of the meme as strange.
Like one time I saw my roommate running Opera GX of all browsers without any adblockers and I asked him "don't these ads bother you?" and he responded, I shit you not, "no, quite the opposite! they're really helpful!". I didn't say anything because at that moment I was genuinely stunlocked.
SmallBorg@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 164d
I had a similar experience with a work colleague. His response? "They are helpful. They tell me what to buy". I guess some people are just like that.
starik@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 165d
How do you guys learn about the newest products and services available?
sepiroth154@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 165d
This might surprise you, but if you walk around town you get bombarded with ads actually.
LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 165d
Fun fact: not where I live. Billboards are not allowed within 18 metres of a road, and any business signage has to be both on the property of the business and at least 4 metres away from the road. You can easily walk around down town and see exactly 0 ads and it is bliss.
sepiroth154@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 165d
I said walk though, not drive.
Funny that you have better laws than we do though...
LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 164d
I also said walk through. Doesn't matter where you are, walking or driving, you will not see ads for things unless you are actively looking at a business advertising itself.
sepiroth154@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 164d
I was confused because you were talking about roads, sorry. That sounds awesome...
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 165d
Your adblocker doesn't protect you outside?
sepiroth154@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 165d
No, I didn't get the monthly subscription :(
fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 165d
i do not need that information
i know, crazy, but humans basically just need food and shelter to live
"newest products and services" is not in the hierarchy of needs
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 164d
That’s such a weird thing to say. Ads don’t show you things that are good, if they were better products they wouldn’t need to press you over it. I can’t think of a time where I found something cool I didn’t know about through an ad, short of movie trailers that I actively sought out.
For example, a few years back I found out that safety razors shave closer, give me less razor burn, and cost 100x less than cartridge razors. Which one of the two gets ads?
grue@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 164d
If there's something I want I'll search for that product category myself, and read reviews and comparisons from entities that aren't sponsored.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 165d
Turns out when I need a thing I can look for it without a company trying to prey on my insecurities
De_Narm@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 165d
I don't.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 164d
I think you’re just used to the lemmy(/reddit) crowd. Pretty much everyone I casually know has ads when they show me something on youtube. Every time I ask “Why not use an adblocker?” they reply either “The ads don’t bother me” or “I want to support the content creators”.
Doesn’t make sense to me. I’ll buy some swag or donate to creators I like, but I am not voluntarily watching ads.
DaGeek247@fedia.io · 6 pts · 164d
I know several people who only watched the Superbowl for the advertisments / halftime show.
Regardless of how shitty it is, one of the big cultural touchstones is also the advertisements they played on tv when someone was growing up. A lot of people use ads as another way to connect with a new person; meeting a other local to your area means you can mention a particularly overplayed ad from childhood and likely be able to find another person who saw it growing up too.
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 164d
Do you think this is true for younger generations than millennials? Obviously ads with high production value like matt damon's fortune favors the brave gets talked about, but I don't know anyone who makes cultural references to a generic ad on TV or YouTube with average production value. I think for the average advertisement nowadays, there's too much saturation of content and not everyone watching ads, that you couldn't have a normal ad like this mundane Sears Air Conditioner commercial be ingrained in kids memories.
DaGeek247@fedia.io · 5 pts · 164d
You know, I expect that the generational divide will change which ads people connect over, but I don't think that the majority of people will stop using them as a way of connection.
The new hotness is making fun of raid shadow legends, and I expect there's several others I just don't know about as well.
priapus@piefed.social · 6 pts · 164d
The majority of people just aren't bothered by them.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 165d
I'd say you just need to swap the label for adblock unethical and adblock smart.
sirico@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 164d
Old bit of computer lying around? Adguard DNS baby
4am@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 164d
Hell yeah. I like it better than PiHole, but that’s basically just personal preference.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 164d
I've been with the monk since the days of recording shows to VHS to fast forward past the commercials.
ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 164d
who are these people in the middle
i do not recognize them
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 164d
Largely bootlickers and trolls, they don't exist in as great of numbers as the OP's post implies. The ones on the left are far FAR more common.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 165d
galaxy brain: adblock with badblock ethical whitelist and badblock emergency whitelist is ethical
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 164d
Okay, that's based too
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 164d
priapus@piefed.social · 4 pts · 164d
AdNauseum has a built in whitelist for ethical ads which I'm happy to leave enabled. I see them on some blogs I read and on the option search page for Home Manager.
BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 164d
I habe been at all three of these stages in my life, so this seems pretty accurate
ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 164d
i'm quite curious about your "adblock unethical" phase because... the fuck?
fishy@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 164d
Seriously, the fuck? In what world is it unethical to opt out of having trash thrown in my face?
Redacted@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 164d
The only argument ive seen with any weight is for content creators whose revenue stream is ad dependent, and even then sorry not sorry im not turning off ublock
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 165d
I think everyone who can uses ublock, no?
MrChewy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 164d
I didn't see an ad in actual years, and went to a friend's house a day ago and saw a singular ad, I instantly got whiplash like "holy crap, people actually live like this". Feels like a lack of standards almost
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 164d
ye its awful---- how can peeps live with that-
minamoog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 163d
don't think this is how bell curves work
tobiah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 163d
No? If you were to map out the general population's intelligence, wouldn't it come out on a bell curve just like this?
minamoog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 163d
the majority does not think adblock is unethical