On second thought, this sorta scenario does seem a bit odd. Like, the first person basically admits by implication to snooping around the second person's personal stuff but expects the other person to be embarrassed by this?
Let's not forget the perpetually fucked who keep getting to major milestones in their life only to find the world has taken a big shit on their prospects, ie, the young uns now.
My guy, trans women are real, objectifying depictions of them in fiction are imaginary. If you make a stereotypical and dehumanizing representation of a real group of people, I'm afraid that you can't just say "well, I made it up," and dissuade any criticism of how this relates to real world politics and its violence. Incredible porn-brained reasoning here.
edit: really starting to notice the influx of redditors on here.
I'd say equating people's fantasies with real people is the real dehumanizing thing. Rational people are able to separate fantasy and reality... why arent you?
I’ll admit I’ve never seen futa as harmful, but I also admit this comparison made me think.
We’re not totally okay with characters like Mr Popo from Dragonball because they’re somewhat close to harmful stereotypes, even if he’s fantasy-based and it wasn’t intended.
I feel like if the practice is based on genuine fetish and not any notable efforts to harm a community, that could be taken into account. I’d mostly just rather culture fights take aim at those forms of pointed harm; but I’d also want to know how many other trans people might feel impacted.
Why are you assuming the depiction would be dehumanizing? Just how constrained do you want porn artists and their viewers to be? Bigoted and hateful porn exists, but so does porn with a progressive message, and the distinction is not which groups of people have been depicted.
If you want to focus on the word and move the euphemism treadmill along because it's become associated with offensive stereotypes, that's understandable, but you're probably not getting any closer by calling people r*dditors just for saying it. As porn tags go I think 'futanari' is overall on its way out, for instance you won't find it on the tag lists of e621 posts because the word is aliased to other tags and not used directly.
The right-wing wants to ban us from public life because they believe a woman having a penis is inherently pornographic, because that's literally their only exposure to us. It's not just about the euphemism treadmill, the way porn portrays us is actively making our lives worse. We're overly sexualized to the point that they believe they need to protect their children from us. It is dehumanizing.
Porn doesn't have to be this way, but to fix it there would need to be a total transformation of the entire industry and media landscape. It's a serious problem and no one wants to confront it, because they like their porn and don't want to give anything up.
That's all fair, and I can see how right wing porn memes contribute to that kind of problem. Trans women need more non-pornographic representation and not be automatically treated as fetish objects. Still, I think it's relevant that this is about something someone was saying about furry porn, which as a whole has pro-LGBT politics.
Lemmy isn’t as trans-woke as it used to be. At least Lemmy World. All the major communities are basically Reddit. And the mods are just as power trippy.
Yeah, men typically show up once something gets more populated and then act like they've always owned it. I wonder where they would learn to think like that and if it is at all connected to transmisogyny 🧐
"You dont get to control language" while telling a trans person that they don't get a say in what is a trans slur is distinctly some liberal man shit I tell ya. Aggrieved.
Unfortunately, it is. I can't even watch a normal 13-on-1 anal incest stepmom neighbor rent payment arrested for shoplifting gangbang without everyone pissing on each other. It's disgusting.
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CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 131 pts · 174d
On second thought, this sorta scenario does seem a bit odd. Like, the first person basically admits by implication to snooping around the second person's personal stuff but expects the other person to be embarrassed by this?
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 86 pts · 174d
It'sabout emotions. Those aren't rational. That's why I try to avoid them as the plague.
chisel@piefed.social · 78 pts · 174d
HA HA, ME TOO, FELLOW HUMAN. HUMAN EMOTIONS ARE SO UNOPTIMIZED AND ILLOGICAL.caurvo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 174d
LET'S GET BACK TO SMOKING THESE MEATS.Furbag@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 174d
Hey new neighbor, you throw one heck of a cookout!
HowdyLemmy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 173d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeemJlrNx2Q
thessnake03@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 173d
I TOO ENJOY HUMAN THINGS, LIKE PICKLEBALL AND COMPUTING PI
ameancow@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 174d
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 174d
Chances are still open that we're all dead before I get to middle-age.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 174d
Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 173d
Let's not forget the perpetually fucked who keep getting to major milestones in their life only to find the world has taken a big shit on their prospects, ie, the young uns now.
Donkter@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 174d
Now on principal the first person is wrong. But it does depend on what they found...
tetris11@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 174d
A flashlight and a salad mixer
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 173d
Who doesn't like some light salad tossing?
elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 58 pts · 173d
I do onsite IT support for individuals/small businesses. I have a couple of oldish laptops I use as loaners in case I have to take a machine toy shop.
They both have a folder on the desktop called "porn with zebras", which contains a single, blank txy file named "hahaha you looked"
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 16 pts · 173d
"Found your zebra porn. I added to the collection."
ICastFist@programming.dev · 54 pts · 173d
Phew, I'm glad she didn't find my "dragons fucking cars" folder!
molten_boron@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 173d
I'm more worried about my "cars fucking dragons" folder.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 173d
what about cars with ahageo faces?
molten_boron@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 173d
Eh, that's already set to public
sundray@lemmus.org · 51 pts · 174d
venusaur@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 174d
A Lemmy user’s worst nightmare. Somebody finding out what porn they’ve been looking at. Progressive in so many ways except when it comes to porn.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 58 pts · 174d
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 173d
What is this, the 1950s!?
orioler25@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 174d
It is crazy how many men get pissed when you tell them that "futa" is a slur; often because "everyone uses it."
edit: Y'all know you don't get to tell a marginalised group what is and is not a slur against them, yeah?
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 36 pts · 174d
Maybe if you're using it to refer to trans women.
But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about imaginary furry girls who were either born that way or magicked up a dick somehow.
orioler25@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 174d
My guy, trans women are real, objectifying depictions of them in fiction are imaginary. If you make a stereotypical and dehumanizing representation of a real group of people, I'm afraid that you can't just say "well, I made it up," and dissuade any criticism of how this relates to real world politics and its violence. Incredible porn-brained reasoning here.
edit: really starting to notice the influx of redditors on here.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 28 pts · 174d
orioler25@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 173d
I'm sorry that you are just now learning that your porn world doesn't translate to real life.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 8 pts · 173d
Why would I want to translate it?
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
Zorque@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 174d
I'd say equating people's fantasies with real people is the real dehumanizing thing. Rational people are able to separate fantasy and reality... why arent you?
orioler25@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 174d
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 6 pts · 173d
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
I’ll admit I’ve never seen futa as harmful, but I also admit this comparison made me think.
We’re not totally okay with characters like Mr Popo from Dragonball because they’re somewhat close to harmful stereotypes, even if he’s fantasy-based and it wasn’t intended.
I feel like if the practice is based on genuine fetish and not any notable efforts to harm a community, that could be taken into account. I’d mostly just rather culture fights take aim at those forms of pointed harm; but I’d also want to know how many other trans people might feel impacted.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 173d
Why are you assuming the depiction would be dehumanizing? Just how constrained do you want porn artists and their viewers to be? Bigoted and hateful porn exists, but so does porn with a progressive message, and the distinction is not which groups of people have been depicted.
If you want to focus on the word and move the euphemism treadmill along because it's become associated with offensive stereotypes, that's understandable, but you're probably not getting any closer by calling people r*dditors just for saying it. As porn tags go I think 'futanari' is overall on its way out, for instance you won't find it on the tag lists of e621 posts because the word is aliased to other tags and not used directly.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 173d
The right-wing wants to ban us from public life because they believe a woman having a penis is inherently pornographic, because that's literally their only exposure to us. It's not just about the euphemism treadmill, the way porn portrays us is actively making our lives worse. We're overly sexualized to the point that they believe they need to protect their children from us. It is dehumanizing.
Porn doesn't have to be this way, but to fix it there would need to be a total transformation of the entire industry and media landscape. It's a serious problem and no one wants to confront it, because they like their porn and don't want to give anything up.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 173d
That's all fair, and I can see how right wing porn memes contribute to that kind of problem. Trans women need more non-pornographic representation and not be automatically treated as fetish objects. Still, I think it's relevant that this is about something someone was saying about furry porn, which as a whole has pro-LGBT politics.
orioler25@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 173d
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 6 pts · 173d
Futa is not trans. Futa girls were not assigned male at birth. It's a different thing entirely.
natebluehooves@pawb.social · 3 pts · 173d
i don’t know how to explain this in a way that won’t set you off any more, but the vibe of your instant hostility comes across as reddit behavior.
the previous commenter seems uninformed and you took that moment to lash out instead of trying to correct their misunderstanding.
orioler25@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 173d
venusaur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
Lemmy isn’t as trans-woke as it used to be. At least Lemmy World. All the major communities are basically Reddit. And the mods are just as power trippy.
orioler25@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 173d
Yeah, men typically show up once something gets more populated and then act like they've always owned it. I wonder where they would learn to think like that and if it is at all connected to transmisogyny 🧐
venusaur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
There are trans men too, and they’re not immune to misogyny.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net · -4 pts · 173d
It was just a trans power trip before, heh, at least there’s less of annoying people like Ada or the blahaj sect, who disserve the cause
MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 173d
conservatives feeling free to be transphobic on lemmy is a bad thing actually
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 173d
Lemmings are unable to think rationally when someone brings up the fact that porn can be harmful.
orioler25@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
Yes, which makes my comment above very funny as it is in reference to someone else saying this, big loop.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
It's a genre, not a slur. You don't get to control language.
orioler25@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 173d
"You dont get to control language" while telling a trans person that they don't get a say in what is a trans slur is distinctly some liberal man shit I tell ya. Aggrieved.
orochi02@feddit.org · 5 pts · 173d
White Person spotted
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone · -4 pts · 173d
Opinion discarded
TachyonTele@piefed.social · -38 pts · 174d
If beastiality is progressive then im voting red.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 174d
Anthro isn’t even close to bestiality.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · -20 pts · 174d
Hmmhm
Agent641@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 174d
You didn't have to do yourself like that fam.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 174d
I don’t have to, but I sure like to.
orioler25@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 174d
Lola Bunny is apparently responsible for the rise of fascism, that's the real reason why the liberals (🤮) desexualized her in Space Jam: A New Legacy.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 173d
they what
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
Let's not forget the sexiest of M&Ms.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 173d
... What? You got something to back that tall tale up with?
orioler25@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 173d
Yes, dummy, Professor Zoom admitted it himself.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
No evidence, then? OK.
orioler25@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 173d
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
So long as it passes the Harkness Test it isn't bestiality.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 174d
https://lemmy.world/c/unixporn
???
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 39 pts · 174d
Imagine they find your secret windows installation.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 173d
And a receipt for full MSRP.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
It's for the stupid, propreitery exam anticheat I promise!
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 6 pts · 174d
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 174d
But she said she was 3000 years old!!
devfuuu@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 174d
Wait, aren't we all seeing the piss videos? I thought that was mainstream nowadays.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 174d
Unfortunately, it is. I can't even watch a normal 13-on-1 anal incest stepmom neighbor rent payment arrested for shoplifting gangbang without everyone pissing on each other. It's disgusting.
And guys, y'all need to hydrate.
HexagonSun@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 174d
Siethron@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 174d
My porn has to be drawn because it is impossible in reality.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 1 pts · 173d
What about 3D renders and animations? 😏
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 30 pts · 174d
is that tom scott
tetris11@feddit.uk · 25 pts · 174d
Yes, he quit youtube to do porn.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
wait....what?!
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 173d
It's a joke
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
😒 got me excited for nothing.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 173d
Title of your sex tape.
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 10 pts · 173d
That's just the British haircut.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 20 pts · 174d
Not bondage. Shibari. I just like knots!
Bombastion@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 172d
Knotty
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 173d
My wife caught me looking at porn just once. Her response was "You know, we're married and we could just do that."
Porn was more a habit at that point than I realized.
TwistedTurtle@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 172d
"Yeah, but can you look like her?"
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 172d
To be fair, she could not. She could only look better.
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 166d
Famous last words.
Jeraxus@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 173d
Porn: sneeze
razen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
Am I the only one who has never been caught yet by their parents?
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 172d
Huh, I thought they were partners. I guess the comic could be interpreted either way.
razen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
Now that you say yeah they can be partners too