TIL chicken sold in supermarkets are often "plumped" with a salt water solution to increase sell weight, making up as much as 30% of the total weight, and can contain up to 500mg of sodium per serving
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumping
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Kolanaki@pawb.social · 217 pts · 142d
I remember growing up seeing Foster Farms commercials saying they don't do this. It was the main theme of nearly all their ads.
When I was a teenager, I got a job at the local Foster Farms plant. My job was part of the process of injecting the chicken with saline. 😬
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 142d
Bruh
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 142d
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 142d
Were those the commercials with the chickens in the convertible coming to California from the Midwest?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 10 pts · 142d
I think that was one. It was a whole series of a couple of chickens trying to pass themselves off as Foster Farms chicken but they always got called out for being plumped and not natural.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 141d
teenage you:

ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 175 pts · 142d
Mandatory "in the US".
While this one is technically legal in the EU, it would require labeling the salty water as an ingredient if it changes the weight significantly.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 142d
It's labeled in the US. You'll see language like "may contain up to N% x, y, z solution" etc.
However that would require us to read
robocall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 141d
I read this comment but don't have time to read labels on everything I eat
zout@fedia.io · 40 pts · 142d
I can assure you that meat in the Netherlands is also filled up with water. Pretty much all meat sold in the super markets will when cooked first release the water, causing the meat to boil for a bit before it is evaporated. They don't have to mention it on the packaging if it's below 5%, which means in reality it's closer to 10%. Since the Netherlands exports a lot of meat, it'll be all over at least Europe.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 141d
Meat, in general, has a lot of water. It having water is not evidence of this technique. If your meat somehow doesn't have water then you need to be extra concerned.
zout@fedia.io · 5 pts · 141d
Sure, but the water tends to come out during freezing, and to make up for that, they inject water before hand. Like I said, anything below 5% doesn't have to be reported, which gets stretched to 10% so they can make up for the loss a second time.
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
They feed chickens (and other animals) with that stuff that muscle builders use which causes them to get thirsty and distends the muscle cells just before slaughter.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 142d
Is it legal? It used to be illegal.
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 52 pts · 142d
Adding salty water to food is perfectly legal, as both salt and water are allowed ingredients for processed food. Lying about it is not.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 140d
Aren't they doing it with shrimps and Salomon in the eu?
masterspace@lemmy.ca · 78 pts · 142d
In the US they do. In Canada it's illegal.
Padit@feddit.org · 33 pts · 142d
Yup, here in the EU illegal as well.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 141d
Not EU-wide then. Pork/chicken "with added water" is pretty common here in Estonia. Usually pre-flavored meat cuts and such. If it's completely fresh, unseasoned meat, then usually there's no water listed, so hopefully that does in fact mean they don't add water.
Here's one manufacturer's product with ingredients translated
Here's another
Padit@feddit.org · 2 pts · 140d
Ufff, thanks for the info. Apparently the EU wide regulation is just for chicken. And in germany adding salted water to meet of any kind is generally also not allowed.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 141d
Canadian women also don't get as many boob jobs.
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Most absurd "facts" here are in the US. It's ilegal in my coutry too
robolemmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 41 pts · 142d
And basically all frozen chicken in US stores has been pumped full of brine. That includes raw chicken parts that look otherwise unprocessed.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 28 pts · 142d
Not only that. That's the way most people like it. How many people here are equipped at home to brine their own chicken and turkey on any given day? It costs manufacturers more to ship that way as well due to the extra water weight. But chicken can often be dry enough as it is. If you're grilling, baking for preparing chicken in any way that doesn't involve cooking it in a sauce or reduction. You absolutely want it brined generally.
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 142d
In a lot of the world, chicken isn't typically sold like this and people aren't doing it themselves. If it ends up dry, it's taken as a sign that it's overcooked, not that it should have been brined.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 8 pts · 142d
Oh for sure. It's a convenience thing through and through.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 142d
Brining chicken isn’t terribly hard. Just a ziplock and some salt water with seasoning. (Or leftover pickle juice.)
The problem is that if you want chicken now you’re gonna need a time machine to go back 12-24 hours to brine the chicken, and people will pay for convenience.
Brining a turkey requires large and specialized equipment, though.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 10 pts · 142d
Yep definitely not hard. But absolutely time-consuming.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 142d
literally everyone that owns a bucket, salt and has access to water... do you think brining a bird is some fancy thing that requires specialized equipment? soak a bird in salt water... add spices if you want. done...
Nvermind@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 142d
Equipped? Maybe
Have the patience to? Probably not!
Eldritch@piefed.world · 9 pts · 142d
Have resources would have been a clearer choice of words. Most don't have the resource of time.
nogooduser@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 142d
Or the knowledge to know that it even needs doing.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 5 pts · 142d
Sure. It's been a thing in America I know for a long enough time that many are completely unaware of it. Hence TIL. Which let me reiterate is not to shame anyone learning of this today. Learning is awesome and keep it up.
snooggums@piefed.world · 32 pts · 142d
They also do this to beef, pork, and a bunch of other meats in the US. The higher water content is part of the reason preservation methods don't work as well.
For instance, trying to make Jerry out of water injected beef means you have to dry out the added water in addition to what was in the meat to start with, and you can't use the post drying weight to calculate if it is dry enough.
Plus poking the holes to add the water is one more vector for bacteria...
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 142d
Poor Jerry
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 142d
Hey he started both those wars.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
Huh, I don't remember that episode of Seinfeld.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 141d
Jerry was the name of ze germans in ww1.
Funny you mentioned Jerry seinfeld, I used to really like him until I found out he's a big Zionist. So he is a Nazi himself fyi. Fuck that guy Larry David's okay.
robocall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
Is Larry David a Zionist?
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 141d
No not that I've ever heard.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 142d
Great way to cheat the customer and also ruin recipes that don't take into consideration that cups of salt water will come out while cooking the chicken.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 141d
... in the US.
manuremy@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 141d
In Finland too!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 141d
"with added water" is pretty commonly added after the chicken, pork, whatever in the ingredients list here in Estonia.
tiredofsametab@fedia.io · 26 pts · 141d
Not in sane places, it doesn't.
TransNeko@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 141d
so basically only the usa does it.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 141d
Also to help packaging n shelf life. Chicken production and processing facilities are both morally and biologically disgusting.
osanna@lemmy.vg · -2 pts · 141d
It's not "processing". It's murder. Call it what it is.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 141d
Ill agree that what we do to most chickens is deplorable. That said words are made by humans w certain meanings. Murder is reserved for something human and something unlawful.
Maybe mass slaughter? conveyor belt slaughtering?
Weird fact. Did you know a human once decapitated a chicken and it still lived for a year? Google it if you don't believe.
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 141d
Wtf. TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 140d
Right?
mathemachristian@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 139d
And these humans have a vested interest in making sure that a death of their own is treated differently than a death of a chicken. That human lives are somehow more precious, sacred whereas those of pigs and chickens meaningless.
Of course this is reflected in human language. This is like excusing racism in english by "well the english made those words up w certain meanings" here is a good video about "the oppressors language" in a different context https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYpM0qF9kZY .
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 141d
Murder is a process an art even. And these fuckers make a mockery of it.
I demand Sweeney Todd quality chicken murder!
quips@slrpnk.net · -10 pts · 141d
Genuinely worse than the holocaust no doubt. By several orders of magnitude.
osanna@lemmy.vg · 1 pts · 141d
Even holocaust survivors call what we do the animals a holocaust. not THE holocaust, but A holocaust. It's truly disgusting. We kill 1-3T animal EVERY FUCKING YEAR. It's beyond fucked.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 142d
Well... Not really in Denmark. At least not salt water.
Packaging on chicken often has it written on the from if there is any water inside, and if I'm not mistaken, it's not allowed to exceed a certain percentage.
There may be reasons why people might specifically want to buy chicken with water inside, so some supermarkets here sell both, one that has an statement on the amount of water inside, and another that will say "ikke tilsat vand".
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 142d
America fired all the inspector-types, though, as conservative governments usually do on about day 1. So now consumers get to protect themselves the same way they 'did their own' epidemiological research in the last pandemic.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 142d
This is been a thing since Reagan though, it gets worse under the Republican administrations but it does not get much better under the Democrats. We get more fucked every cycle.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
The turkeys I buy on sale in bulk when I can, 50 cents a pound, have 15% of a salt solution with some other salted bullshit some phosphate or I don't know I've been meaning to look it up. Probably not great for you though knowing the US Food supply.
Griffus@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 142d
In Norway, chicken without added salt and water has become the norm after producers were made to inform how much of each is added. Also, one of the triopol groceries here has wholly switched from Ross chickens, so that is a good trend for animal welfare.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 141d
same with prepacked bacon. fuck you foster farms.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 141d
The only bacon I buy now is thick stuff from Costco (there are two or three brands that are good at my local one), or from a butcher shop. and not even all the stuff from Costco is decent, they still carry the shitty watered down thin fatty stuff.
nothing else is worth it. I will gladly pay $22/kg for bacon that doesn't suck and two slices are an actual serving rather than $24/kg for a tiny shitty 400g package that contains basically just one serving. but I'm also buying it only occasionally in the first place.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
I'm $75 away from smoking my own
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
Because that's literally how you make bacon...
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 140d
that's one way to make bacon
SqueakySpider@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 140d
Don't worry, you can get it precooked!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 141d
There should be a class action lawsuit against Tyson and Perdue,.etc. We pay by the pound for chicken, not saltwater.
Skv@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 140d
You save all your chicken receipts?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 140d
Of course, don't you?
Skv@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 140d
Im a madman, but not THAT mad.
YaksDC@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 141d
I moved to Portugal last year and I can say that the supermarket chicken here does need a lot more seasoning (to my taste) than US chicken did. I am hoping it will help cut down my overall salt intake.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 142d
Same for many meats. Red meats are often sealed with O2 to appear redder.or "fresher" than was natural, for many extra days on the shelf.
Meat not from a butcher is usually the lowest quality and actually more expensive considering the liquid weights.
teft@piefed.social · 26 pts · 142d
Not O
2but CO. You want to reduce oxidation, not increase it. Carbon monoxide bonds to hemoglobin 200x better than oxygen does and that keeps the hemoglobin red. Oxidation is what causes meat to turn brown.HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 142d
was gonna say that was carbon although I forgot if if was dioxide or monoxide. I thought it was di.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 142d
I can cook a whole packed pan of chicken wings (on top of each other) and when they are done there is 3 inches of space between them and a huge pool of liquid in the drip pan. It's insane how much they can inject in them.
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 141d
People didn't know this?
fizzle@quokk.au · 9 pts · 142d
Almost all meat you buy at the supermarket has brine. Even things like ground beef.
Also meat glue.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 142d
This doesn't happen with seitan. Which is cheaper, healthier, and has about double the protein.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 142d
I've had some damn good seitan, too.
There's a vegan Asian-styled restaurant near me that has awesome general tsao seitan, and also use the same protein for their sesame-, mango-, and orange- sauced variants.
Another place near me has these barbeque seitan strips (appetizer) with house wasabi mustard.
God I'm hungry now.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
I only recently discovered that roasted sesame is the best thing in the fucking world. If it's not roasted right it's nothing, and the roasted oil is meh.
very_well_lost@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 142d
I say this as a proud vegan, but seitan is fucking disgusting.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 141d
Wtf? Every omni I fed seitan said they couldn't tell the difference to chicken.
Tofu is disgusting. Seitan is amazing.
Try seasoning it. And batter it and deep fry it. It's indistinguishable from fried chicken if you do it right.
very_well_lost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
I've always felt the opposite. I love tofu, and have a zillion recipes for it. But seitan still disgusts me. No matter how I try to prepare it, I've always been disappointed.
neo2478@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 142d
That means you haven't had well made seitan
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website · 8 pts · 142d
I wish I could eat seitan, I always have allergic reactions to it. I'm stuck with beans lol
SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org · 4 pts · 142d
Is TVP an option for you?
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website · 4 pts · 142d
Yes, though I consider soy to fall under beans haha
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 141d
That's more ground beef than chicken. And unfortunately it has only about the same protein content as animals does.
But it's great too
daychilde@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Why would you continue to eat it once you figured that out?
FoxyFerengi@startrek.website · 5 pts · 142d
Some of my allergies are seasonal. I can only eat cherries in late fall/winter, for example. I assume it's linked to some pollens that are common in spring and summer. It's not the case with seitan unfortunately
HubertManne@piefed.social · 4 pts · 142d
I was going to respond to the person because if the alergy is not life threatening I certainly will try again very few years.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 141d
There are valid reasons to brine a chicken, this is just an extreme way to do so. The salt affects how muscle proteins behave during cooking, partially it prevents them contracting too much, thus in turn preventing the muscles from squeezing out so much liquid that they become dry. lower temperature cooking for a longer time can achieve the same effect and won’t dilute the flavor of the chicken.
Any reasonable step of preparation like brining poultry can be taken too far or done excessively, especially by companies seeking to maximize shareholder value by selling as little product as possible for the highest price. pre-brining chicken isn’t always bad, but it’s not always what you want.
SeaSgt@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 140d
Hmmm capitalism.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 141d
Not just chicken, basically anything that says "VALUE ADDED" on it. The saltwater is the value.
Damage@feddit.it · 6 pts · 142d
Buy meat at the butcher's
HubertManne@piefed.social · 6 pts · 142d
this is what got the wife and I to start gettin organic which dod not seem to get the injections. Normal chicken was so bad my wife started callin it frankenchicken. We have noticed they must have backed off a bit as we have gotten it once or twice on extreme loss leader sales and it was not quite as bad as we remember. Still the organic seems better and the cost is offset by actually getting meat instead of water.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 141d
And if they add caramel, they can advertise it as salted caramel chicken! I mean, why not? Everything else is salted caramel. Disgusting stuff.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 141d
Pumpkin Spice Chicken.
Brace for the ice limit.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website · 5 pts · 141d
While I agree salted caramel isn't great I can see why people like it, the ol salty sweet combo
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 141d
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 141d
Hard to believe 500 milligrams of sodium has no taste. I've boiled lots of chicken and theres never been enough salt to taste in it without I add a lot
BanMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
The water cooks out very fast and I'll bet the salt largely goes with it.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Yeah some it might but at a third of the total weight I'd bet most of it precipitates into the flesh as the water heats up
gramie@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 141d
500mg of salt is about 1/10 of a teaspoon, not very much.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 141d
Depending on product injecting salt water is necessary - one reason is to form it into nice shape, the other is to inhibit bacteria that could produce botulin toxin in the product.
kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 141d
Air chilled chicken does not have the same brine issue. I've only ever seen it sold as organic, but it is worth it to avoid the brine issues.
Tim_Bisley@piefed.social · 4 pts · 142d
Air chilled chicken FTW
AA5B@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 142d
I’d definitely like to identify ones that have not been - these days it can be a challenge to sear chicken on the stovetop because of all the water.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 3 pts · 142d
They do that to help the poultry get frozen
Makhno@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Bullshit. Ive processed hundreds of game birds and they freeze just fine without brine injections.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 4 pts · 142d
Did you moved all that over the country without a 100% controlled froze chain?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
vegetableatarian
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
Yeah it's just brining. 30% and 500mg is crazy though. My local supermarket (and I checked-also walmart) value pack of chicken is 2% and about 50mg sodium per serving, which is pretty negligible. And it does make the chicken jucier.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 141d
Soylent Red when?
lime@feddit.nu · 3 pts · 141d
if your soylent is red in the middle you need to cook it longer.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 141d
At least chicken is salt brined, ready for owen.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
I wonder if even with the sodium the value still exceeds that of roasting a whole $20 chicken for hours.
At $6.99 I highly doubt it. That's $2.33/lb
robocall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Costco sells me hot rotisserie chickens for US$5, they can put salt, MSG, sugar, whatever they want in it. That shit is cheap and good.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Yup! Though if you shop around you can avoid it and some chains, like Trader Joe's, tend to include less as far as I can tell (except recently with those big breasts of theirs?). Not even that much more expensive but definitely a jump in quality. A Sprouts nearby also has fantastic chicken.
I've been meaning to visit the carnecerias near me, though. Getting meat at any specialized store tends to cook better, anyway, but I'm a little shy since my Spanish is terrible and last time I tried they didn't speak English. Lots of pointing and gestures, lol.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
chicken comes in price ranges. the highest price range is usually double what the lowest is.
TJ has 2-3 ranges of chicken products. the higher end ones don't do this, but the really cheap bulk ones probably do and a lot of cheap low end chicken in cheaper stores definitely do.
just like they have 4 kinds of eggs, with the cheapest begin 3 dollars and the high end ones being 6-8.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 142d
I suppose that's true. They didn't used to have their butcher shop brand until a few years ago, and there's no doubt they're watering it down. You 100% can taste the difference with the higher end, at least. Same kinda for eggs, although I'm getting eggs at Sprouts.
Hell, tier pricing is even in the milk lately. I wish we had better standards, lol.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 142d
I was talking about this is a thread last month and got downvoted and harassed for it by people who seem to think pre-made super market chickens were a great healthy way for poor people to get protein... people just refused to believe how unhealthy it was and that it was processed food and kept complaining how raw whole chickens were awful by comparison or something....
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 141d
This particular article is about raw meat sold at grocery stores, not pre-cooked stuff.
What's "processed" about a whole bird seasoned and cooked in a rotisserie oven?
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 141d
There's really nothing unhealthy about brined chicken.
Nor is there anything unhealthy about whole raw chicken. It just won't be as moist as brined chicken.
altphoto@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 142d
Pre seasoned! LOL. I'm vegan, so who cares. Except man, that really sucks for the chicken. I assume they get plumped as soon as they're dead. Such cruel faith.
I cook Costco Chicken to my kids. I think we all gotta make our own decision as we transition into veganism. Potatoes, mushrooms, tofu, etc give textures that rival meat. There's no real reason to continue eating meat except for not knowing what can nutritionally replace it. Since it contains key nutrients you must have a plan in place. I'm figuring it all out as I go and maybe my kids will follow. At least we should go back to a time where meats are for special days.
village604@adultswim.fan · -3 pts · 142d
Are we complaining about pre-brined chicken?
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 142d
We're complaining about them pretending the brine is chicken, not brine.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
It's a real problem for people on low-sodium diets. Labeling is imprecise.
village604@adultswim.fan · 2 pts · 142d
Labeling in the US would have to contain the added sodium content.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Yeah. "may contain up to 30 percent water with saline"
That's it. That's all.
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 141d
No, it would be included in the sodium content on the nutrition label.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Look sometime.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 142d
besides what the other person said this is not just brined. Its literally injected.
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 141d
Injecting meat with brine is definitely a thing in cooking.
https://modernistcuisine.com/recipes/injection-brining/
And the other person was wrong about the sodium content being improperly labeled. It would be reflected on the nutrition label.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 141d
ugh. I can't imagine injection brining that is just salt water. Honestly I can't imagine brining with just salt water. As I said in another comment we did not even know what they were doing but chicken breast just got aweful and we moved to organic at that point which seemed to be fine. We did try some of the standard chicken when its been big loss leader and it did seem a bit better so I think they backed off at some point where there must have been a peak of screwing with it.
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
Try brining with cooking wine.
Good shit.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 141d
im not a big wine and bear with cooking person although my wife loves it. I always feel any flavor it adds is psychological.
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 140d
They put it in a bag and use a syringe to inject brine. Its not "literally injected".
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 140d
whatever they were doing to it standard chicken breast at the store got gross.