Joe Rogan claims Trump started the war in Iran to distract Americans from the Epstein files

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-rogan-trump-iran-epstein-b2954216.html

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TheCelticPirate@lemmy.world · 206 pts · 136d (2 replies)

Joe. He used you as a distraction. You are a tool.

danc4498@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 136d

Joe Rogan allegedly allowed Harris to travel to Texas during a key weekend because she hoped to do his show. Instead of giving her a spot on his show, he gave Trump that spot resulting in Harris wasting an entire day.

I don’t genuinely believe this would have made a difference to Harris. But I do think it shows Joe Rogan’s motives at the time. Fuck that guy.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 136d

More like a Pawn.

mrslt@lemmy.world · 108 pts · 136d (4 replies)

Glad to see Joe finally catching up with the rest of us. Dude is perpetually at least six months behind the rest of the country.

rottenmummy@lemmy.ml · 52 pts · 136d

His role model is Internet Explorer

foggy@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 136d (1 reply)

I genuinely think COVID made his brain dumber.

Eldritch@piefed.world · 10 pts · 135d

How was that even possible though! He was already borderline so low he had to consciously remember to breathe. Which we would all be better off if he forgot.

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 135d

Glad to see Joe finally catching up with the rest of us

No, not this. Never this.

Joe Rogan supported Trump solely because he's in the top 1% and only cares about his perpetual tax break on his riches.

He's a total fascist oligarch asshole who'll just hop onto the next pair of fascist nuts his billionaire sugar daddies tell him to.

He is irreparably evil.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 93 pts · 136d (6 replies)

Joe Rogan will never outlive his contribution to this. He will be denigrated in history as a sophist, an ignoramus, and a fascist sympathizer, if not a fascist himself. His children will deny him and do everything they can to distance themselves from his legacy. So let it be written.

3jane@piefed.ca · 29 pts · 135d

He made a lot of money doing it. That's all he cares about.

Samskara@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 136d

Joe represents the average American really well.

wewbull@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 135d (3 replies)

I don't really care. If he can help lead people back from crazy land, I'm all for it.

IratePirate@feddit.org · 6 pts · 135d (2 replies)

I doubt he will. If you wandered that deep into crazyland, chances are you belong there. I suspect he still wants crazyland - just a different brand from what the clown-in-chief is creating. That's fine by me if it creates a civil war among the crazies.

wewbull@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 135d (1 reply)

If you just give up on a third of the country, then the country will never heal from this. Like it or not, there has to be forgiveness for those who admit they were wrong. Otherwise this never ends and the USA is over.

stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 134d

this never ends and the USA is over

Keep going we’re almost there

FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 76 pts · 136d (4 replies)

More like “slow Rogan.”

lights go down, applause erupts

Thank you, you’re too kind. Oh please. Thank you.

Oh flowers? Lovely. waves at crowd

Good night everyone, drive safe, you’ve been a lovely audience. Till next time!

fartographer@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 136d (1 reply)

You better look out. Joe Rogan is gonna come after you in 15 months, when he finally gets your joke.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 135d

Just crouch behind something 5' 4" or taller, you'll be fine.

kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 134d

Still funnier than "comedian" Joe Rogan.

Zos_Kia@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 134d

drive fast and take chances!

Soulphite@reddthat.com · 68 pts · 136d (1 reply)

northernlights@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 135d

lol stealing this

TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 135d (11 replies)

Something something broken cock twice a day something

orenj@leminal.space · 27 pts · 135d

please stop breaking my cock the hospital bills are insane here

NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 135d (2 replies)

TFW I'm out here agreeing with Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, and MTG. Fuck...

Jumi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 134d

Use it to your advantage but hide a knife behind your back

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d

Competent Evil hates Incompetent Evil. Just don't forget, they're all still Evil.

VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 135d (1 reply)

I wish he would just rewind 10 years a be some comedian hosting other comedians and psychonauts with funny conversations when it was understood it was all just nonsense.

borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 134d

It was never just funny conversations, that’s the problem. It has always been a massive podium to reach people with, and Rogan never vetted anyone or acted responsibly when airing people making unfactual claims. When it was just comedians and shit there weren’t any immediate consequences, but without that you don’t have this.

Reygle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 134d (2 replies)

I sincerely hope he has a broken cock

oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 134d (1 reply)

I mean he fat af, super unhealthy and almost 80. That shit's been cooked for decades.

Reygle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 134d

Oh, I meant Rogan but this also applies and I also approve of this.

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 134d

Does that mean Joe Rogan is Abella Anderson in disguise?

quips@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 135d

Moon landing fake yesterday real today

nightlily@leminal.space · 37 pts · 136d (1 reply)

Dumb shit realises the same thing everyone else with two brain cells to rub together did.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 136d

It's so obvious that even this numbskull eventually got it, which means other MAGAs are getting it, too.

Not all, though. Still a lot that are going to have to get kicked in the balls a few more times before they finally wise up.

SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 135d

Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 135d (1 reply)

Stopped clock, etc, etc.

Madison420@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 135d

No he's just a grifter and his current bullshit is turning his base against him.

devolution@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 136d (3 replies)

brownsugga@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d (2 replies)

I'm old- what is the significance of this meme? He haunts me

LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 134d
devolution@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d

The worst person you know made a good point.

BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 136d (1 reply)

No shit, Sherlock.

inari@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 136d

Even this moron gets it now

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 136d (4 replies)

Joe’s full of shit as usual.

Control oil because he’s stuck in the ‘80s? Yes.

Control oil because petro state and anti-EV? Yes.

Control oil in an attempt to keep it on the petro dollar? Yes.

Pump and dump the stock market to make billions in insider trading? Fuck yes.

Because trump’s and his minions are idiots and don’t understand how interconnected and dependent the world economy is on the movement of energy products and their production ? Yes.

Because he’s worried about being prosecuted for anything in the Epstein files, and the judicial branch is threatening him with active investigations? Fuck no.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 136d (3 replies)

The reason he went to war is because Israel forced hm to, with the epstein blackmail.

Making money off of it is just natural for our gangster president and his administration. This war wasn't good for him, he was forced into it, just as Israel forced the last ones, and made him look like a bitch in every one by immediately violating any ceasefires he negotiated.

It really is that way, Epstein was Israel getting blackmail, and the president, and so many others, are compromised. It can't be ignored, and the big criticism of Joe's response here, is he's underhanding his criticism here, when he knows damn well it's because of blackmail, not distraction alone.

HermitBee@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 135d (2 replies)

The reason he went to war is because Israel forced hm to, with the epstein blackmail.

But what do they have that would cause any actual harm to him? You could release genuine videos of Trump fucking children, and he still wouldn't see any consequences.

northernlights@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 135d

I'm guessing it's something that would topple the entire establishment, not just narcissistic-in-chief.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 135d

Idk about that, his evangelical base won't care that's for sure, they are only a third of his voters. Some of his other diehards won't care, at least a third of his base would care, and a higher percent of the independents.

This is one of the only issues that could take him down, along with the entire ruling class. The epstein child fuckers and their enablers and those that covered for them. But we are all disunited as the Epstein conspirators keep us all at each other's throats. The far right dissident wing is anti salmon, you are anti salmon and pro terrieriest, the inependents sat on their hands when the weak doomed to fail controlled opposition predictably lost, and so forth.

We aren't dealing with only a bunch of rich people alone here, but Israeli intelligence (and US intelligence as there is no way Israel did this without their help/acquiescence,) leading the cover up and disuniting of the population.

Wilco@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 136d (4 replies)

Everything Trump does is either; A: a distraction from the Epstein files, or B: a grift, or C: both A and B

winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 136d (3 replies)

You forgot C: someone hurt his feelings with D: all of the above

Wilco@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 136d

Yep. My multiple choice answers did not account for the Manbaby in Chief.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 136d

Don't forget E: He's stupid, and it seemed like a good idea at the time.

jballs@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 135d

Dude literally ran for president because Obama hurt his feelings at the White House Correspondents Dinner.

HorreC@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 136d

Cant wait for them to prove them wrong and release all the files.

aheartoffire1996@thelemmy.club · 16 pts · 134d

No shit Sherlock

magnue@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 135d (1 reply)

stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 134d

Correct, Rogan reflects them as much as Trump does.

DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 135d

Leave it up to neanderthal Joe Rogan to finally catch on to something way, way after us homo sapiens have.

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 136d (1 reply)

I mean... yeah. Everything's a distraction for something with this administration. They hope you forgot about Greenland, or the failed insurrection in 2020, or, yeah, the Epstein files.

But seriously, it's not like anybody is getting arrested in the US over the Epstein files. People in other countries are facing consequences, but not in the US.

If you're in the US, you can be jailed for seeing video or pictures of CSA, while the actual perpetrators being named and shamed in the files are getting away with it. So is the crime the CSA or the knowledge that powerful people are doing it? It should be the CSA. I don't think people should be able to possess CSAM, but if the people doing it are known and getting away with it, is it a crime to see what they did or is it a crime to know who did it to whom?

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 136d

The Constitution doesn't say anything against raping children, so it's perfectly okay, as long as you're a MAGA.

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 13 pts · 135d

I can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. And considering how many people refer to it as "Epstein Fury", I'd say that others can display a similarly modest level of multitasking.

SooperGoose@thelemmy.club · 11 pts · 134d (1 reply)

Correction *Joe Rogan points out the obvious fact that everyone paying attention already knows

Reygle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 134d

that everybody already knew in 2014

melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 135d

In this case, Joe Rogaine is correct.

madjo@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 134d (3 replies)

Who cares what that human thumb thinks?

_stranger_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 134d (1 reply)

He's like a human version of the slowpoke meme.

Dasus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 134d

The similarity is striking, I have to say

4grams@awful.systems · 3 pts · 134d

All the shitty dudebros you work with. I’m a middle aged, bearded, slightly overweight man, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been asked if I caught Rogan last night…

Siethron@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 135d

We seem to have forgotten the gestapo admist the war and Epstein files but we still have them too

flop_leash_973@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 134d

He must think there is currently more money in being critical of Trump over this than supporting it. Advice remains the same, fuck Joe Rogan, everyone should ignore him.

Janx@piefed.social · 8 pts · 136d

Yep! Maybe you shouldn't have helped him get elected?

Huschke@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 134d

And Melania brought the attention right back to the files.

Formfiller@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 134d

Hawanja@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 135d

Well tell us something we don't know

anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 135d

He says this but he’d vote for him again if he tried to run.

brownsugga@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 135d

Joe Rogans thing being a monkey is very apropos, I doubt he has the capacity left for higher order thinking

Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 6 pts · 136d

slow trigger

zeca@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 136d (5 replies)

Is this the consensus in the usa already? Just curious cause I'm not from there, and everywhere I look online this is the consensus (in my bubble at least).

Edit: I know the media doesn't admit stuff like this, but I mean consensus in like the general feeling of talking to people in real life about this war.

homes@piefed.world · 9 pts · 136d (3 replies)

We all knew it was distraction when he attacked Venezuela. And when that didn’t work, we all knew he would try something else.

Now he’s talking about attacking Greenland again.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 136d (2 replies)

Russia has him compromised as well as Israel, and they want the US out of Nato, Greenland is the president's best idea of how to get his base behind pulling out.

homes@piefed.world · 1 pts · 135d (1 reply)

See, people keep saying this, but I seriously doubt that he has the mental capacity for that level of strategic thinking.

If it were anyone else, JD Vance, for example, then I’d agree with you. But Trump? President shit for brains? I find that very difficult to believe.

zeca@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 134d

I don't think anyone's saying he has these ideas. But he is probably influenced by people with these ideas.

Impound4017@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 136d

Pretty much everyone I know (bar for those few still religiously devoted to doing their best impression of a boot polish sommelier) seems to be on the same page about how nearly everything Trump does is a distraction from the files, and that’s been the consensus for months now, even before the Iran War.

That said, I run in very different circles than those who make up the loyal core of MAGA, and I’ve learned to never doubt my countrymen’s ability to achieve new and rarified heights of stupidity and cognitive dissonance. I also never felt like most people even tolerated the idea of Donald Trump, and that led to an extremely unpleasant surprise in the wake of the 2024 election, so my social circle probably isn’t a particularly representative cross-section.

GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 135d
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crystalmerchant@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 136d (1 reply)

Hate it when I agree with Joe

yakko@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 136d

Get ready for the next distraction

Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 136d

Its never too late to be captain err cadet private obvious.

davidagain@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 135d

He's not wrong.

Commander_Keen@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 135d

Say it ain’t so Joe! /s

Furey@ttrpg.network · 3 pts · 136d (2 replies)

Who TF is Joe Rogan?

Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 136d

Alopecia Alex Jones.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 136d

Former MMA fighter turned most popular podcaster in the country, turned maga tool. He used to be a bernie supporter I hear. Had him on his show just last year. But also pretended to believe the president even when he did that. It's all in bad faith, he's a cynical piece of shit.

minorkeys@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 136d (3 replies)

Did it work?

homes@piefed.world · 3 pts · 136d (2 replies)

Nope

minorkeys@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d (1 reply)

Well good then.

homes@piefed.world · 2 pts · 135d

oh, I mean, it dipped way down in the news for a few cycles, but people were still talking about it, and now it's popped back into the news, especially since former AG Pam Bondi has, since getting fired, has decided that she can now ignore her Congressional subpoena to testify before the House Oversight Committee regarding her fuckup with the release of the Epstein files.

This is very transparently evasion and contempt of congress (a crime). How congress decides to proceed from here is anyone's guess.

libre_warrior@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 135d

Washington regime going on raid and falling on their face.

fox2263@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 136d

You don’t say

WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d

And in other breaking news: cold water brrr, hot water ouch.

m3t00@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d

shocked shocked i tell you

Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d

He might be a human sack of human shit but i do wish people would get back to talking about the epstein files. We cant just let these dick heads get away with it.

Nebulous_Keito@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 136d

Agreed

Warm_Bowl_of_Peas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 134d

Well, at least he's catching on I guess

Taleya@aussie.zone · -1 pts · 135d

Now the narrative shifts to trump just trump only trump, no one else, ignore the framework required to get here, it was just trump. The goat is being scaped

artyom@piefed.social · -1 pts · 136d (2 replies)

I can't agree but I also don't have a better explanation. I think he's just a deranged individual and trying to explain anything that he does or says is a fruitless endeavour.

teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 136d (1 reply)

The real story is that Israel has the president dead to rights on epstein blackmail and forced him into the war. Distraction isn't the reason for this war, blackmail is. It really is like that, and that blackmail is not relegated to the gangster president, a critical mass of the ivy league and ruling class are compromised.

Which is to say nothing of what Russia has on them. Or corporations, other oligarchs. This is why you don't elect corrupt aristocrat crooks to office. Now we can't get rid of them either seemingly.

devolution@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 136d

Emuluments Clause. Apparently if you are white and a male, you can wipe your ass with it.