The Supreme Court Will Decide Whether ICE Can Hold People Indefinitely. We Should All Be Worried.

My point was we already lost due process I get that you're pissed and I don't blame you, I am too

The difference that still matters (for now) is that the US justice system applies in the United States, regardless of citizenship, war, or anything else.

Gitmo detainees were strategically never brought into the US. NSGB is a naval base that's leased from Cuba and is explicitly not territorial ground of the US, so detainees there are not protected by US laws, but the adversarial relationship with Cuba also keeps the host country's laws from applying.

It's pretty much the only place the US permanently controls where there are no civil protections at all for detainees.

You can't claim these people aren't protected by our laws while also claiming that they're subject to those same laws.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

Historically "not under the jurisdiction of the United States" meant exactly what you think it meant. It meant that they were not subject to the laws of the US and was a status commonly called "diplomatic immunity".

I agree with your conclusion that people cannot be both immune from rights and subject to law, but sadly the courts have disagreed.

You can’t claim these people aren’t protected by our laws while also claiming that they’re subject to those same laws.

They won't claim it outloud but they already operate under this interpretation.

That's what all the industrial biowaste incinerators they've been buying are for.

Ford and Carter let Nixon's crimes slide. Bush I and Clinton let Reagan's crimes slide. Obama let Bush II's crimes slide. And Biden appointed a Republican attorney general who initially refused to do anything, acceded only under Congressional pressure, then slow-walked things until Trump could run out the clock.

Again, Democrats are better in terms of general harm reduction, but it's like comparing two plagues. If you gave me the choice, I would vote for another big Covid pandemic over a global Ebola outbreak, but that doesn't mean Covid isn't still a plague.

We have three clear examples of cartoonishly corrupt Republicans committing crimes left and right. Dems are 0 out of 3.

I'm a scientist. I go buy the evidence observable to my eyes. I see Democrats are 0/3 for holding criminal Republican administrations accountable. That's the evidence I'm basing my conclusion on - actual historical observation.

Do you have any evidence you would like to bring up? Because all you've said so far is "trust me bro."

In the last months of Biden's term he opened up several new ICE facilities, every president since 2001 has increased the funding and scope of ICE and DHS. The dems may be better in that when they are in charge they detain and deport people more subtly, but the corporate-aligned Dem leaders approve of what's happening now and haven't done anything meaningful to prevent it.

Ah, thanks. I'm not American and had not seen the word used as euphemism like that, so it was a very puzzling comment without that context.

Recommend the AR over the AK then for now

You realize a lot of us specifically voted against this shit, right?

america is probably the most mysogynistic, racist WESTERN right wing country. cant even tolerate a center right woman, nor color. plus they allow propaganda in the msms unabated, and are unable to discren from it.

Right. We're doing that. But because some of us aren't, we all deserve slavery?

Like a death row hard on. Two minutes too late.

Libs love deepthroating trump cock. Schumer was holding back tears when he brought up a ceasefire. I'm saying take up arms and fight for your country. It's not my fault you fail to see the difference.

Bullshit. Your entire comment history is just hatred and insults toward Americans. Zero room for understanding. No real suggestion from how you talk about them that you've even tried. You don't want to make change. You want a punching bag. You love that the US is coming apart at the seams. Nearly 5% of the global population and you just want them to burn as a society. 350 million people and you have it in your head that not a single one of them is even fighting. People protest every damn day but you're upset because you want to see blood.

You're a sick person. Front row seats for the gladiator show, angry that we're fighting missiles with words.

A hyuk hyuk so helpful.

Don't fucking talk to us about fascism, we're living it every day.

I don't think we have a choice.

They asked what Five Eyes or Seven Eyes country you're from. Seemed pretty clear to me.

That’s the same response you give anytime anyone challenges you. You aren’t smarter than the whole world. You’re a troll nothing more, and everyone sees it. A melancholy malcontent. If you’re going to troll at least be interesting. I can’t suffer a bore. That’s what you are, an angry bore. And you have my pity.

I’m done with you. Feel free to fuck off to you’re next strain of meaningless complaints about people complaining meaninglessly.

A true hero of the arm chair.

I’ll give you your final reply before I block you. Just out of good form, but I won’t read it. I’ve read enough of you.

You know, instead of complaining, why not get your government to stage an intervention and hold it over our heads forever.

No amount of me saying thst every J6er and cabinet member should be dragged into the street naked and shot on live TV will change the fact that noone listens when I say it or will follow commands i give

You can't will a fucking rebellion into being my dude. Its not that simple