She's just defending her country

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JustJack23@slrpnk.net · 157 pts · 33d (5 replies)

Enemy combatant status is not defined by age or organisation association, but skin color...

/S

Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · -64 pts · 33d (4 replies)

Why are these kids ticking?

makefile@programming.dev · 47 pts · 33d (1 reply)

"Hello, I am from Israel and this is my comment."

Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 33d

Welcome to the Internet!

ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · -13 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Because it will make the Jews look bad

Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 33d

Worse than Catholics?

PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 111 pts · 33d

No. 1 spot at the box office was promised to me 6,000 years ago

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 89 pts · 33d (73 replies)

The Boys is supposed to be satire.

7101334@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 33d (71 replies)

The Boys is also Zio slop, Frenchy was an IOF soldier (war criminal settler terrorist) who bragged about ripping a child away from her family.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 10 pts · 33d (34 replies)

I can almost guarantee you Garth Ennis isn’t a zionist.

Do you think William Wallace hates jews?

7101334@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d (33 replies)

I don't know or care who either of those people are lol

If you employ a Zionazi soldier in your show, I'm not watching it. It also got to be a bit shit later on anyway.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -1 pts · 33d (7 replies)

You don't know who William Wallace is?

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 32d (6 replies)

I think that guy is one of the type who picks one thing e.g. Israel evil Palestine faultless and just rides with that no matter what. You can't expect conversation out of that kind of person

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 7 pts · 32d (5 replies)

Israel is evil because they are genociding Palestine.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -5 pts · 32d

If only the world were so simple

andxz@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 32d (4 replies)

Careful with all them edges there, ye might cut yourself.

7101334@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d (3 replies)

"edgy is when not wanting to watch war criminals on TV" - liberal lobotomite, probably

andxz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d

If this person is sincere, I'm a happily soil grown finnish communist turnip in spring 1941.

andxz@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 26d (1 reply)

You're what we'd call mentally ill. You might want to try to do something about that before you hurt someone. Or you know, be the next evening entertainment for your dictator. The best thing he knows is when they scrape people like you off the pavement riddled with bullets.

Go on, be all you can be. Maybe even take an SS agent or two with ya to ...well yeah . Why give that fat fuck the satisfaction?

7101334@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d

I didn't vote for Trump, Blue MAGA.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -13 pts · 32d (19 replies)

Wow so staunch. What if someone served in the US armed forces and then became an actor? Would you never watch that show? Genuinely curious

7101334@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

Possibly. Probably depends if they saw active duty and their attitude about their service.

But let's improve your weak premise a little: if they served in the US military and bragged about ripping children away from their family like the IOF shitstain in question did, I would absolutely never watch that show.

andxz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d

My grandfarther served twice against the Russians and once again against the fucking nazis.

Catgrass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d (16 replies)

Yes

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -8 pts · 32d (15 replies)

Yes what

Catgrass@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

Yes, I'd stop watching that show

Is this thread full of zionazis, treatlerites or liberals? You guys all kinda come off the same.

BrickEater@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d

Read the comics, much better and anti gov.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 33d (7 replies)

Well then, this explains a lot.

Israeli zionosts seem to have a case of Mel Gibson syndrome... They seem extremely violent, and they like to make violent ass movies and shows.

I'm not a prude, I watch violent stuff, but wonder woman and the boys are just... Too far. Like, you can tell they're a little too fucked up.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -13 pts · 32d (6 replies)

Oh god forbid an actor in a show did mandatory military service. Boycotting Kpop now

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 32d (5 replies)

South korea isn't invading the north and killing children

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -23 pts · 32d (3 replies)

And neither is Israel, glad we agree

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 32d

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon_(2026)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories

Of course they aren't, definitely not an invading force displacing millions of civillians in MORE THAN ONE COUNTRY.

Shut your warcrime denying ass up before you embarrass yourself further

edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 32d (1 reply)

But they are a genocidal theocratic apartheid ethnostate.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -5 pts · 32d

Mmmm words. Love it. Factually not an ethnostate

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -23 pts · 32d

Nor is Israel so we can all live in peace and harmony yay

Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 33d

It's funny because shortly after I read that somewhere else in a lemmy comment, they

::: spoiler Warning, The Boys final season spoiler killed his character. Lol. :::

red@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 32d (4 replies)

The Boys is what?

7101334@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 32d (3 replies)

The Boys is also Zio slop

red@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 32d (2 replies)

Explain, I enjoy the show and have no idea what you mean. Nor does DDG, Google nor Qwant.

7101334@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d (1 reply)

They hired an IOF soldier (Frenchy) who bragged about kidnapping a child

red@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 32d

Aight. Cannot see how that makes the show slop, but that's an unfortunate hiring decision regardless. Thanks

andxz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d (1 reply)

The shit your mom cooks is slop. Cancer-inducing, low-end brain rot that'd make Nestlè blush. This 'cuisine is what mostly kept your degenerate incestuous 'extended family "alive"'. For all these long years.

When you're not eating each other, of course, fucking each other. Or both.

Eventually, we'll burn all ya'll alive and dance on the fucking ashes. One day, Fuck-face.

7101334@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 26d

lmfao I don't think I've seen a comment like this on the internet since like 2012 maybe

bruh hit me with a "your mom" loooool

bklyn@piefed.social · 0 pts · 33d (18 replies)

So, because a single, secondary actor (who got killed off) has a dark past, the entire franchise (that’s all about reconciling with darks pasts) is ruined?

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 33d

Has he "reconciled" with his dark past? And yeah if you cast an SS member you have some questions to answer..

7101334@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d (15 replies)

Yes.

They also tried conflating criticism of the Zionazi ideology as being some weird MAGA fringe attitude.

bklyn@piefed.social · 1 pts · 33d (14 replies)

Oy gevalt … OK, I may be an idiot for entertaining this… Conjuncture… but, I’m also pretty open minded, and this is the time where we need to listen to a lot of new voices

Go on now. Explain exactly what you mean by this. Start from the beginning, and ELI5. I’m listening

And if you expect me to take you seriously, include references from reliable sources.

Edit: you can dispense with the anti-Zionism bullshit. Yes I understand. Israel is committing a genocide against Palestine (and currently Lebanon) and all that. Just because I’m a Jew doesn’t mean I’m a Zionist. Let’s move on from that point.

7101334@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 33d (13 replies)

I stopped watching the garbage show and am clearly not half as emotionally invested in it as you are, so I don't recall specifically. I just remember there was one line in the show, iirc by the Nazi lady, which implied that anti-Zionism is akin to some MAGA mentality. It was the only time Zionism was ever specifically mentioned in the show so it shouldn't be that hard for you to find if you care that much.

I never accused you of being a Zionist and don't care what your ethnicity is (in terms of being discriminatory), deep breaths lol

vegafjord@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 33d (12 replies)

Please... It's not others job to find references for you. If you fail to reference something, that is your cape. We should not normalize outsourcing of referencing.

lets have good conversation ettiquette

7101334@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d

I really don't care if you believe me about a specific reference pertaining to a garbage show that hired a settler-terrorist for their cast.

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -2 pts · 32d

We should also normalise not having people spend an hour or more to find references for that one claim. This is a niche internet shitposting forum not an academic journal.

Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

When?

basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 32d

Isn’t this from Wonder Woman?

tetris11@feddit.uk · 76 pts · 33d (30 replies)

There's a scene in one of the DC movies where a german sniper is hiding ontop of a church in a french village

Ever the pillar of restraint and decorum, Wonder Woman takes down the entire fucking church to kill this one soldier.

It's a scene so over the top with needless destruction of a beautiful historical landmark, and you wonder what the filmmakers were trying to say with it.

Edit: https://youtu.be/BWuafJtMrBE&t=195

Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 33d (5 replies)

Hollywood is fully integrated into the military-industrial complex. Inflicting disproportional damage on the population of whoever the enemy is is how The Great US Empire wages war. So that is what the population at home is meant to support. So that is what is shown to the young, easy to influence generations.

tetris11@feddit.uk · 17 pts · 33d (1 reply)

I know. It is indeed a wonder when a film like Parasite slips under their radar, and they suddenly have to scramble to make sure the director doesn't get too direct with their messaging in their next film

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 33d

They make one movie with easy to digest anti-elite themes for every dozen that promotes competition between the working class, has libertarian undertones, or otherwise reinforces the status quo. How many Hollywood heroes promote the status quo vs challenge the status quo?

Also, Parasite is a South Korean movie, which makes it even weirder. SK is way deeper in late stage capitalism than the US if you can believe it. When Samsung alone accounts for 23% of their gdp, something's wrong.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 32d (1 reply)

i mean they are the copaganda/militaryganda arm of the MIC. Transformers is pretty much all militaryganda and very little actual robots action.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 32d

it's also one percent robot testicles

Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d

Indeed, Hollywood make the directors of the "Wochenschau" (june 1940 to March 1945) look like kindergartners and they learned from them too.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 33d (3 replies)

and you wonder what the filmmakers were trying to say with it

No deeper meaning, just action.

tetris11@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Then put a whole battalion up there or something, make it clear that she cleared out a whole sniper nest, not just one guy

toddestan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 32d

I doubt much more thought was put into this other than "hey, you know what would look cool?"

lambisio@feddit.cl · 1 pts · 32d

They already had that scene three minutes earlier into the movie, and unfortunately execs think that if you repeat something then you lose interest from your audience and thus can lose shekels.

Curiously enough, "repeating plot points and previous information that can be inferred without being told" is exempted from this issue, so there we go, characters re-explaining obvious plot points at every turn.

Katana314@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 33d (3 replies)

I mean, the easy answer is all Hollywood action movies contain gratuitous destruction for the sake of visual interest.

It was honestly my first thought as a kid: “Oh my god! That guy’s food stall was completely destroyed by that car! What will he do now? Is there anyone he can call to get it replaced?”

The simpler answer is to accept cinema violence is a childish thoughtless moment anyway, and we shouldn’t compare it too much to real life. But in Gadot’s case, I suppose gratuitous destruction fits very much with her home country’s philosophy.

HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 33d

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

But as I'm learning lately as I get settled in on Lemmy, some people here will take any opportunity to stretch things to their soapbox.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to defend myself against the accusation from a mod that I'm anti-socialist because I said the USSR wasn't perfect.

MrShankles@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 33d

The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 33d

I think that's the one thing they got right unfortunately, in real life armies (usually) don't risk soldiers trying to locate and kill a sniper, they just use things like artillery, missiles, or tanks.

WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 32d (5 replies)

This is pretty silly. Superhero movies constantly feature superheroes and supervillains causing mass property damage. Superman will be thrown through buildings. Cars will be used as throwing weapons, etc.

It's a deliberate cinematic choice. Superheroes just flying in the sky punching each other doesn't convey the power involved in these characters. No, if you want to portray superheroes in a way that actually feels real to people, you need to show them interacting with our ordinary world. You show them treating things we experience as solid, indestructible, and immobile as mere tissue paper.

This is just "show, don't tell." Sure, you could have some character verbally explain that "Superman has the strength of a million men!", but if all you saw was Superman fighting in a cloud or an empty field, that wouldn't really mean much. You can't feel it. Watch Superman casually pick up a skyscraper, and suddenly your mind can actually grasp the scale of his power.

tetris11@feddit.uk · -1 pts · 32d (4 replies)

I hear you whilst defending superman in the sense that, he's either chucked through a populated building against his will to highlight the monstrosity of his assailants, or he chucks buildings with the implication that they're empty.

In this WW scene, it's shown to be a populated church. It just rings odd for me w.r.t to these unwritten rules of hollywood destruction that Im hyperfixated on

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 32d (2 replies)

Populated by a soldier, in a war zone. This wasn't a puppy and kitten caretaker nunnery on cute orphans visiting day.

tetris11@feddit.uk · -3 pts · 32d (1 reply)

she's an immortal goddess, who shouldn't relish in the destruction of mortals who were handed a gun at a young age and pushed to a front line for a creed they likely don't give two actual shits about

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d

she's an immortal goddess

Something she didn't know at the time. Also, rather a lot of her training was in how to wage war.

A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl · 4 pts · 31d

Christopher Reeves's Superman was quite upstanding tbh.

Also the Actor was quite upstanding on it's own right, he did a lot of activism for my country (chile) to be free, he fought against Pinochet in multiple occasions, like when the regime death threatened the actors guild, he came here so all the worlds eyes would point here and shield them, and he also gave his endorsement to the Chilean democratic opposition who ended up defeating Pinochet and bringing democracy back.

In a sence, Superman defeated Pinochet and brought democracy back to chile.

He was awarded the highest honour the Chilean govt can award a few years before his death.

marcos@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d

One should not ever wonder what the writers of Wonder Woman movies were thinking.

If that one is what bothering you, consider yourself lucky and move on.

InFerNo@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 33d (2 replies)

lmao the Flemish at the end caught me off guard 😂

"Edde da gezien?"

tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 33d (1 reply)

I thought it was hochdeutsch -- "Hast du dass gesehen?"

InFerNo@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 32d

If you enable the subtitles, it says Flemish.

Took another listen:

"Hebde da gezien"

"Wa is er gebeurd?"

"Hebde da gezien, wa zij gedaan heeft?"

It's perfect dialect, which surprises me, but after this it seems to devolve into gibberish. I can't make too much out of it, besides French being thrown in, which for our country is, again, spot on, since we are divided bilingually.

"Veld" also means "field". it's such a generic name to give a town, but plausible.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -12 pts · 32d

I watched it just now and it's just generic action movie slop? Do you get your panties in a twist when they destroy NYC landmarks in Avengers movies? It was just Nazis shooting at the good guys and them beating them in a fight.

This is so funny and emblematic of the way you people think. In this dumb movie, they are being shot at, and you wanted the character to not fight back because she needs to preserve the architecture? In the exact same way, you think real Jewish people should lay down and die if Palestinians get mad at them. Stunning

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -24 pts · 33d (4 replies)

That is a fictional movie! Hope this helps <3

dismay3915@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Almost all movies are fictional

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -10 pts · 33d

that's crazy wow

tetris11@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 33d (1 reply)

"dyaaa jeee fanks bosss."

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -6 pts · 33d

what that mean

ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml · 75 pts · 33d (65 replies)

Gal Gadot is the reason I understood how people can fall in love with terrible people

MML@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 33d (64 replies)

Why is she terrible? I could Google, but make it well known?

chaogomu@lemmy.world · 99 pts · 33d (23 replies)

Blind support of Israel, served in the IDF.

I'm sure there's more, but I never liked any movie she was in so never bothered to learn more.

makefile@programming.dev · 65 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Don't forget she lied that her family is 8th generation Israeli and that she's indigenous to the land. Outrageous lie to state especially since it's public that all her grandparents are foreign from Palestine also.

thenoirwolfess@fedinsfw.app · 23 pts · 33d (1 reply)

"Foreign" it's all Palestine

7101334@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 33d

I think by "foreign from Palestine" they mean that her grandparents were not from the land of Palestine (sometimes improperly referred to, in part, as "Pissrael")

wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 33d

During the pandemic she noticed no one was paying attention to her so she sung imagine and made her ego everyone's problem.

Which isn't the worst thing she's done, but it adds to her unlike-ability.

FishFace@piefed.social · 5 pts · 33d (18 replies)

served in the idf

Not that this affects your conclusion, she was a conscript, like every Israeli.

BrickEater@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 33d (14 replies)

You can choose to sit in Jail instead, lots of Israeli youth do. you always have a choice not to join a genocidal army.

FishFace@piefed.social · -12 pts · 33d (13 replies)

I compare it to nazi Germany. I don't really condemn Germans who served in the armed forces rather than be punished for draft evasion. There were soldiers who just fought as they were told to and without doing anything clearly immoral or illegal - not all we're out there murdering Jews or civilians, or executing prisoners, or whatever. Same with Israelis. It takes a lot of courage to go to prison by active choice, and I don't think it's reasonable to condemn people for not having that courage unless the alternative was themselves taking part in war crimes.

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 32d (10 replies)

"Just following orders" does not hold up in court today nor did it hold up in the Nuremberg trials.

FishFace@piefed.social · -2 pts · 32d

That is a quote about clearly illegal orders, which I specifically treated differently in my comment.

agentant@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 33d

While I'd say conscripts are easier to forgive than volunteer forces, they are still culpable. They offsetting the suffering they'd endure in prison onto other people, with which their respective fascistic armed forces are targeting. I'm more understanding of their position but they are still guilty.

Also, while the individual soldier may have themselves not conducted any crimes, by serving in a fascist military, you are still aiding them in committing crimes. By providing gains for that military through your service, it gives the force more opportunity and power to commit atrocities.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -5 pts · 32d

This is so beside the point but I was thinking about how conscription in the US wouldn't work. A huge majority of people would either be unfit or just say no and there would be so many young people in jail the economy would grind to a halt. I love that for us

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 32d (1 reply)

she also praises/defend thier current atrocities.

FishFace@piefed.social · 0 pts · 32d

Hence I said, "not that this affects your conclusion"

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 33d

Not every pissrahelli. There are some with a conscience. But yeah, most of them.

kreskin@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 33d (2 replies)

I could Google

We're not your secretaries so yeah do that.

Vincentmario@feddit.uk · 18 pts · 33d

Why even use forums if you're just going to discourage user engagement?

frostlytt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 33d

some people ask questions they can google because they want to be part of the conversation and be social

if you dont want to answer the question, it wasn't for you

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -73 pts · 33d (36 replies)

She's not terrible she's just a random actress with charm and beauty. The people who are always yelping about palestine will convince you she's a war criminal. Like her if you want or don't

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 33d (31 replies)

Do you deny the genocide in Palestine?

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Of course he does

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -12 pts · 32d

Who is he

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -71 pts · 33d (28 replies)

Yeah honestly. Their population is literally growing, if it's a genocide they're doing a shit job lol. But honestly we could throw sources at each other back and forth and it wouldn't mean anything because nothing can disabuse you of this notion.

ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml · 31 pts · 33d (9 replies)

This demographic is not normal. The amount of children is staggering.

Also, genocide does not mean complete eradication. I assume you agree that the nazis committed a genocide when they killed millions of jews? They did not eradicate them.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -42 pts · 33d (8 replies)

Idk what you're showing me other than a shit ton of palestinians

ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 33d

Their demographics show an insane amount of children. 44% is between 0-14 years. This "war" is basically a mass murdering of children.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 33d (17 replies)

I hope you die an early and painful death like so many people you have ignored.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -20 pts · 33d (16 replies)

That's a nasty thing to say. I hope you live and learn.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 33d

Yes, I’m very intentionally nasty to monsters who endorse the bombing of schools and hospitals.

michaelalf@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 32d (1 reply)

Fucking hell. You are painfully stupid.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -12 pts · 32d

Why what happened

edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 32d (1 reply)

She is conventionally beautiful but she has the personality of a damp paper towel. She is not charming.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -1 pts · 32d

I don't think she's a good actor but she's really cute in interviews, but my problem is she's my exact type. Love a leggy brunette because I am one

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 33d (7 replies)

By your own admission, they threw rocks. Those are just youthful combatants, verified.

PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 33d (5 replies)

'Future terrorists' is I believe how they described unarmed kids.

SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 33d

No, that's how the Israel describes fetuses.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -11 pts · 32d (3 replies)

rocks=armed

edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 32d (2 replies)

Are you a troll?

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -2 pts · 32d (1 reply)

Do you define a troll as anyone who disagrees with you?

edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 32d

No just people like yourself exclusively employing bad faith to defend a genocidal theocratic apartheid ethnostate.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d

Hoodlums!!!

/s

CaptainMan251@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 32d

TIL Wonder Woman is part of the IDF

StillAlive@piefed.world · 32 pts · 33d

Kal-El, No!

lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 33d (16 replies)

Why I don't celebrity worship, because not only meeting one's idols is a bad idea, but also the possibility of them betraying.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 3 pts · 32d

I don't do it because it's stupid. They are just people doing their jobs so treat them like that. Appreciate the good work they do, acknowledge they have flaws like anyone else.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -23 pts · 32d (14 replies)

I try so hard not to but sometimes...if Messi ever did anything bad I'd have to take bereavement leave. Love him like a son

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 5 pts · 32d

Like when he tried to kick out Cucurella in the most unsportsmanlike way possible? When he couldn't rely on his skills he tried crying and laying. Pathetic.

eestileib@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 32d (11 replies)

He played for PSG my guy

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -2 pts · 32d (9 replies)

who

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

PepperSaltGarlic

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_FC

I don't follow football, but I'm guessing it's that they're owned by Qatar Sports Investments. I just assume anyone with ties to FIFA is corrupt.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -4 pts · 32d

is there a problem for playing for PSG? Idgi. Does that make someone irredeemable in your eyes? Is this how this site works?

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 33d

I was pretty disgusted with the first movie she was in. The original wonder woman movie.

She was this super powered killing machine just WASTING humans left and right. Just seemed insanely fucked up.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 32d

kal-el no? thats probably her best line. she probably got nepo her way into hollywood, her acting is bad as the rock, and rock has his political leanings quite questionable too. probably shoe-horned into hollywood as a cheerleader back home.

affenlehrer@feddit.org · 12 pts · 33d (43 replies)

Explain please

ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 33d (42 replies)

Gal Gadot is a Zionist

affenlehrer@feddit.org · 10 pts · 33d (41 replies)

I didn't know. I just knew she was Israeli. Thanks

LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 33d (36 replies)

Yeah, she served in the IDF (mandatory service) but continued to speak highly of it

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 33d (35 replies)

technically mandatory,

many are able to avoid it with national service (2 years of volunteering).

many choose to evade it by pretending to be orthodox for the period of the service, and are hunted by private investigators.

many still just chose to serve their service in a cell because they refuse to enlist.

if someone ends in the IOF, and participate in a holocaust, it's their choice and they wanted to be there. no one can say "it's mandatory". that excuse didn't worked for nazis, wont work for zionists.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 30 pts · 33d (4 replies)

Shout out to that one Taylor Swift fanpage poster who went to prison over it in 2019 ✊

Banana@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 33d (3 replies)

The irony being that TSwift would've 100% served in the IOF if she was Israeli.

Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 33d

What makes you say that?

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 32d

funny how israel allows the ultra conservative portion religious group to avoid service, and they are the ones constantly hounding for war.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -21 pts · 33d (28 replies)

A bunch of my friends are Israeli and nobody should be hated for their country of origin. I'm from the US and I don't think someone should automatically hate me because of our politicians. The people that I know served in the IDF because it was the path of least resistance, and they played in the marching band or did graphic design. You're gonna say my ex is a bad person because he played the trombone while Netanyahu walked past him? Then I'm a genocidal murderer for having an iPhone.

Gal Gadot is just a beautiful woman and a bad actress who was briefly in a war simulation. You free palestine people just like shouting and grandstanding.

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 33d (7 replies)

Do you think that we hate Nazis because they were German? Because their country of origin?

We hated Nazis because they were Nazis.

And we hate Nazis even if they are not from Germany.

But we also hate the Germans who were passive and accepted Nazis as if they were business as usual, it didn'e affect them. it affected their neighbours but they did not care

We hate zionists for their genocidal ideology, not because they are from Israel, there are plenty of Israelis who fight Zionism.

We hate Zionists because they are Zionists,

And we hate Zionists even if they are not from Israel

But we also hate the Israelis who are passive and accept Zionism as if it was business as usual, it doesnt affect them, it affects their neighbourss, but they don't care.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -10 pts · 33d

I hate to break it to you but most people are just trying to live their lives peacefully. I'm an American and I hate my government but what am I supposed to do, go find trump and assassinate him and give up my entire life?

Zionism simply means the state of Israel deserves to exist. Not that they should settle and invade their neighbors. Zionism is compatible with peace. You say it like it's a curse word. One can hate the right wing and Netanyqhu and still b a Zionist.

UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 8 pts · 33d (3 replies)

Kinda just ignoring the things she has said, aren't you?

I suspect that pointing out that a moron bigot has moron bigots for friends is probably not the compelling argument you think it is.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -9 pts · 33d

I mean they're all pretty sexy and talented so I think I'll keep em ¯_(ツ)_/¯

emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 32d (4 replies)

nobody should be hated for their country of origin

I don't think anyone hates all Israelis. Those who refuse to collaborate with the IDF should be respected. And there are many incredibly brave Israelis who work as journalists, lawyers, etc. to help the Palestinian people.

The people that I know served in the IDF because it was the path of least resistance, and they played in the marching band or did graphic design.

Understandable on an individual level, but their silence enables Israel to continue the genocide.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -3 pts · 32d

OKay two things: 1)People in this very thread were wishing death upon Bernie Sanders, one of the most decent upstanding people to ever walk this earth. I don't know what kind of mythical politician they want. Mamdani? AOC? They're all doing the best with the DSA and what they have.

2)You are claiming that people who served in the IDF in noncombatant roles are still responsible for war crimes because they enable others to fill those roles. Then am I complicit in war crimes because I didn't become a cop or go into the military? Doesn't that mean there's an empty spot for someone else?

ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 33d (2 replies)

I 100% agree with how nobody should be hated for their country of origin.

However, actions does matter. Any participation in the IDF can by some be considered bad. If him playing trombone means someone else had to be the soldier instead of him, then it's still contribution. Anyways these things are not black and white. My opinion is not made up entirely here, but I am leaning towards it being a contribution to their war efforts, but people aren't exactly very mature the two years they are in IDF.

However Gal Gadot is not just a "trombone player". She is a "trombone player" that has the attention of tens of millions of people. So far, not the biggest problem. The issue is using her huge platform to give full support to Israel for years, again and again. Even if criticized and presented with new information she keeps her full support.

If you do not consider it a genocide, then how many Palestinian deaths per Israeli is ok? 10x, 50x or 100x? Currently it is about 50x and at least 100x indirectly. That in itself can in someones eyes be justified, the problem is that it is almost just civilians, and an insane amount of children. That makes it very hard to justify. Denial of food and basic supplies is the same. The amount of journalists being killed is at a level never seen before, also. All these things that are not even remotely normal warfare, it's almost as if it is something else entirely.

Gal Gadot acts as if your ex held speeches and wrote articles for newspaper giving unyielding support of Israel. Then not weakening his position slightly when seeing what the atrocities are doing to Palestine and its people. Then continuing giving speeches and writing articles in full support.

The difference between the two is the effect. So the difference between the two is huge.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 33d

I came back from the lake. I don't accept your argument that we have to count lives in this manner. A lot of the children were combatants and it's a war that Hamas started and Palestine overwhelmingly supports.

I think Gal Gadot is just fine, she's just a patriotic citizen of her country. Whether you like her acting is up to you. I don't think it makes sense to hate Israel simply because they are more successful at warfare. And iit's really not okay to treat regular Israelis poorly because of their govt. Do you actually think Gal Gadot killed a Palestinian?

AFAIK Israel itself is over 20% Arab. Not seeing the problem here.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 33d

I feel bad replying to you because that was very thoughtful but I have to leave in like 5 minutes so I can't be equally thoughtful until later. Like...it's a war? They had a ceasefire and literally paraglided into Israel and killed and raped innocent people at a music festival and a lot of people were so drunk on rooting for the browner side that they acted like that was okay? It wasn't even an active was and that would have been a war crime in any war. I saw the videos of them parading those violated bleeding women around and some of my friends were acting like it was justified because it was an apartheid state, but I don't see anything justifying it.

Hamas/Palestine are infinitely more cruel, but Israel is seen as wealthier and whiter so they're always gonna be portrayed as the villian no matter how much they baby them.

I really don't see it as a genocide, and I have my sources and will come back to this comment later. But yeah if you shelter TERRORISTS under schools and hospitals you can't whine when innocents get hurt? The perpetual victim shit with Palestine is so played out. If they rooted out Hamas themselves there would be no issue. Bu that random "innocent" 50 something year old woman who died and people cried about was raising and feeding a terrorist, so wasn't she complicit?

Gotta go paddleboard will return

athatet@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 33d (7 replies)

Wrong. Zionists who love Israel are actually incredibly ugly.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -12 pts · 33d

I love Israel and I'm not even jewish lol. Gal Gadot is fine as hell

fif-t@fedia.io · 21 pts · 33d

Unless they're a Palestinian citizen of Israel, there's like a 90+% chance that if they're Israeli, they're a Zionist.

(and "liberal" zionists are still zionists)

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 33d

And fully supports their genocide.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 32d (1 reply)

i think she defends thier current actions. theres another israeli actor, i think frenchie guy was one from the boyz, and his actions were pretty much just as terrible.

affenlehrer@feddit.org · 1 pts · 32d

That's a bummer, I liked both as actors

psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Ohh ohh she can play as Sabra for the next Captain America movie!

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d

fuck no.

Wouldn't mind a Sabra thay learn she is basically a nazi goon and changes sides. but doubt it'll ever happen.

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 33d (107 replies)
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tempest@lemmy.ca · 41 pts · 33d (16 replies)

Despite the fact that Lemmy / Reddit whinge about her constantly I guarantee most of the public doesn't know she has these views at all.

That movie will show up on prime or where ever as another mediocre entry and old people will watch it and continue on with their day.

Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 14 pts · 33d (15 replies)

I'm on lemmy and have no idea who you're talking about or what views.

So yeah most people are still going to watch it and not even be aware of the controversy.

Before anyone starts to accuse me of supporting something, no I'm not going to watch that movie as it seems to be just another superhero movie and those ended with infinity war for me.

Abyssian@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 33d (14 replies)

Gal Gadot supports murdering children and "acting" without any skill at acting.

kreskin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d

she could be despised merely on her lack of any acting talent. She's terrible.

kalel, no!

Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 33d (9 replies)

Yeah i figured first part out when going through other comments, so cant really say im that clueless anymore.

What about the second part, "acting" without any skill at acting? She's just a bad actor?

Abyssian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d (7 replies)

Watch some of her movies if you'd like. Most people I know seem to consider her a step below a mop wearing sunglasses.

Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 33d (6 replies)

I wouldn't really want to, by now most superhero movies might as well be produced by ChatGPT. The overall genre is completely overplayed and has become just a manmade slop.

Abyssian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d

I miss the good old days of well written, flawless superhero movies like Meteor Man and Blankman.

edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 32d

Yeah, she's incredibly stiff and wooden and her line deliveries come off like she's just reciting lines. She's a very poor actor.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -8 pts · 32d (2 replies)

omg so dramatic

Count042@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 32d (1 reply)

It's only dramatic to Nazi filth okay with murdering children.

You are not normal. Other people do not feel the way you do about murdering children.

No amount of pretending your views are normal will increase the number of people that share them.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 32d

Seems we're doing pretty well

yucandu@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 33d (12 replies)

I don't watch Seinfeld because he's an insufferable rich guy who hates the common man.

ScruffyDucky@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 33d (2 replies)

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okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d

I had forgotten about this grossness

dan69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

And she got a 4”-5”/100”

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 33d (8 replies)

I watched it in the 90s before all this shit came out. He wasn't even one of the funny characters, I watched it for elaine and George.

yucandu@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 33d (6 replies)

I just mean that Comedians in Cars getting Coffee thing. I watched it for the guests. But holy shit Jerry Seinfeld fucking hates people so much, and he does not hide it in that show.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d (5 replies)

Hard to hide it when you're such a huge ass hole.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -3 pts · 33d (4 replies)

He's so smug I hate looking at him.

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 32d (3 replies)

That's antisemitic actually

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -2 pts · 32d

What is?

theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 33d

Real. He provides some kind of comedic contrast that enhances the brilliance of Elaine and George.

chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 33d (3 replies)

Not gonna let that antisemitic remark go. There are assholes and good guys in most groups (I ain't looking in the nazis, someone else can do that shit if they want). If you think their belonging to an ethnic group is a possible sign of an issue, then you're just a bigot.

Cause, what the actual fuck, dude?

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Zionism is not an ethnic group.

blujan@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 33d

Well, Stewart and Bernie aren't zionists so the OC wasn't about zionists, was it?

chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 33d

FFS. Y'all look stupid playing ball for a fucking antisemite

https://lemmy.world/comment/24859817

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 33d (47 replies)

"Some of them are good" is something people say about Black people too. Just like people who align with your morals, don't say that only some Jews are okay, that's nasty work

batmaniam@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 33d (46 replies)

My dumbass thought they meant "public figures".

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -6 pts · 33d (45 replies)

Nah they were listing off the Jews they thought are acceptable. Stay innocent!

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 33d (44 replies)

You're being disingenuous, Zionist

chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 33d

No, they're fucking not. Jesus goddamn Christ, read shit and stop playing goddamn team sports. You look stupid

https://lemmy.world/comment/24859817

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -21 pts · 33d (42 replies)

I'm a zionist but how am I being disingenuous? Talk with facts not buzzwords pls

chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 33d (16 replies)

Fall in a pit, zionist. You weren't being disingenuous, but gods damn do I not fuck with genociders

Never again meant what, exactly? Zionism was one of the "answers" the nazis posed to the "question", ya know? Genociding others because you don't want to be genocided instead won't actually save anyone and just leaves a whole fuck ton of people dead. Dumbass

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -14 pts · 33d

You are not making sense. So I wasn't being disingenuous and I was saying what I meant with my whole heart? So your earlier point made no sense? Would you like to apologize for that?

Just read the Sam Harris article I posted. Not sorry I don't subscribe to the death cult of Islam, and I don't cheer when old people and babies are killed and women are raped by terrorist Hamas. Palestine has a beautiful coastline and they could just chill and built themselves up but they want to blame the Jews for everything. There's a reason not even Lebanon wants them. They want to be victims and you want to cry for them and use histrionic language because it makes you feel good about yourself. Yapping about Israel online isn't an accomplishment buddy

Grimy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 33d (23 replies)

A sincere Zionist is an oxymoron. It's basically like someone saying "I'm a Nazi but how am I disingenuous?".

Admitting to being a Zionist is a disgusting thing to say out loud.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -16 pts · 33d

I'm proud of it. Israel is a beautiful state and can and should defend itself.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -16 pts · 33d
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d (12 replies)

Don't forget AOC and Mamdani dude!

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 33d (11 replies)
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Grimy@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Kind of a gross thing to say? Watch out for all known Jews except Bernie and Stewart?

Thunderbird4@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 33d

Yeah, that was definitely a “one of the good ones” remark.

agentant@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 33d

You're just furthering the false equation of us with zionists.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 33d (7 replies)

Gotcha. Forgot what thread we were in.

chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 33d (6 replies)

No. You don't get to be a shithead regardless of the thread. If someone says they hate, you believe them and shun them, not fucking nod your head.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d (5 replies)

Uh, AOC and Mamdani don't fit that category whatsoever. What are you talking about.

chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 33d (4 replies)

Ah! You see the guy came back after you included AOC and Mamdani and said "no, I was being antisemitic" and you said "fair, cheers bud" instead of "Oh. What the fuck is wrong with you, dude?"

Is what I'm talking about

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d

!!!???? I didn't agree or disagree, he was pointing out Jewish people only apparently, since this is a thread about an Israeli actress. I don't know everyone's religions or nationalities, I was just adding two other people since he said Bernie and Stewart are the only ones with morals.

🤔 🤔

SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev · 0 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Is Larry David on the shitlist too? He once picked a Palestinian chicken place over his friends.

fif-t@fedia.io · -28 pts · 33d (9 replies)

Bernie opposes a one state solution because he wants Israel to exist as a Jewish majority.

Fuck Bernie.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 33d (8 replies)

Have any more info on this?

He's consistently calling it a genocide and not supporting military aid to Israel. Not sure what you're getting at.

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/op-eds/it-is-genocide/

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 33d (6 replies)

Hamas, a terrorist organization, began this war with its brutal attack on October 7, 2023, which killed 1,200 innocent people and took 250 hostages. Israel, as any other country, had a right to defend itself from Hamas.

he literally opened this piece by whining about how hamas "started it" (no they didn't) and portraying them as this evil organisation that just murders innocent people for the sake of it (no they don't).

I don't care that after almost 2 years of brutal slaughter, some of the most heinous crimes in west asia to date he finally started to call it genocide so as to not lose the last bit of leftist cred he somehow still has. Especially if he doesn't oppose weapon shipments to pissrahell and simps for a two-state solution, which definitionally is still zionist.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -8 pts · 32d (5 replies)

Hamas, a terrorist organization, began this war with its brutal attack on October 7, 2023, which killed 1,200 innocent people and took 250 hostages. Israel, as any other country, had a right to defend itself from Hamas. Sounds right to me. Love Bernie

Count042@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 32d (4 replies)

Remember the peaceful March of return where Nazi Zionist snipers bragged about getting two kills with one bullet by murdering pregnant women that happened just a year before?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Go peddle your genocide justification elsewhere you Nazi filth.

Edit: Israel had over 15,000 Palestinian hostages, and did before October 7th.

And no, an occupying country has no right to defend itself against those it is occupying. Literally. That's nor a moral argument either, but actual international law.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -8 pts · 32d (3 replies)

Is Nazi filth a new phrase you just learned

Count042@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 32d

I like how you just ignore the intentional targeting of pregnant women in the peaceful protest against oppression.

Again showing how okay you are with murdering children.

Dude, just be open with it. You will really feel better not hiding who you are.

fif-t@fedia.io · 3 pts · 33d

He refused to call it a genocide until 2025, I wouldn't call that consistent. Dragging his heels, dodging questions about it, calling it a "legal term" until then.

And when he finally called it a genocide, doing so started by condemning Hamas, calling it "Netanyahu's war" as if it's not widely supported (polls have shown that it is).

He supports Iron Dome funding/access (unless that changed recently, I'd be happy to hear that but it won't change my mind on him being a liberal Zionist) https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-sanders-on-ending-unfettered-military-aid-to-israel-and-restoring-unrwa-funding/

Interview (Yes, I know it's from 2017, but it doesn't seem like this opinion has changed as far as I can tell) https://fileditchfiles.st/beta16/54fd6b222f3c42d1a1f6/bernie_sanders_equal_rights_for_palestinians_and-one-state-solution.mp4

More recently, from 2025: https://fileditchfiles.st/beta16/9dbace77bfa33654edfc/Bernie-Sanders-Israel-Jewish-state.mp4

In my view, Bernie Sanders is consistently a liberal Zionist. Fuck Zionists, including the "liberal" ones.

HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 33d (7 replies)

That's dark 🫠

0x0@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 33d (6 replies)

Shit's dark.

HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 33d (5 replies)

Sometime it's red

okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Anal fissures or colon polyp? Finding out is half the fun!

HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 33d

If it's bright I'm alright, if it's dark I'm probably farked

kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 33d (2 replies)

A lot of mine are green. Not to brag. Ever had one long enough that you wanted to brag about it and show people? Competitive pooping should really be a thing.

HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 32d

Are you sure youre not colour blind?

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 32d

If you are pooping long poops. I suggest carrying a poop knife.

dan69@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d

What is the rope of truth holding on too?? Compel me now!!!

JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 32d

Kal El, no!

Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d

Truly an Evil Queen.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -4 pts · 32d

Fuck them kids

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 33d (4 replies)

not gonna make me hate wonder woman because she is not of jewish origin, but greek. the pantheon of gods in her mythos has nothing to at all in common with judaism

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 33d (2 replies)

Gal Gadot is Israeli.

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 33d (1 reply)

yes i know. the character she portrays is not

Senal@programming.dev · 1 pts · 32d

Indeed, and is the image posted supposed to be about the character "wonder woman" or gal gadot in a wonder woman costume?

Hint: look at the text

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 32d

gal gadot isnt greek, she is israeli , specifically a former IDF that defends the current state of israel.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -39 pts · 33d (141 replies)

Throwing a rock can be deady and I don't care what age you are, if you're coming for my brain I will end you

Ravenheart@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 33d (75 replies)

Big strong man you are. Threatening children. So brave.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -25 pts · 33d (74 replies)

I'm not a man and I'm not threatening anyone lmao I'm just saying you can't hide behind "they're just 13" or whatever age if they're throwing rocks at your head. I don't think you'd react well to someone to a gang of kids throwing rocks at your head either.

mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 33d (31 replies)

Are you justifying IDF soldiers opening fire on children throwing rocks at them? It sure sounds like that's what you're doing.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -16 pts · 33d (30 replies)

If a "child" (teen) threw a rock at me with sufficient force to cause a traumatic brain injury then I would shoot them with a gun. I don't see why you guys see that at a gotcha. If someone attacks you you can shoot them back, isn't that common sense?

mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d (5 replies)

So in your opinion, this is most likely justified. The boy in the picture is fifteen, so he qualifies as a valid target to you. A rock could bounce off the tank and hit an infantryman in the head. The boy was killed, by the way, his name was Faris Odeh. I guess you also think this is justified. How about this? And this?

You're referring to anyone above the age of twelve as a "child" in quotation and deserving to be murdered by you if they throw a rock in your direction. You're perverse, despicable and beyond redemption if you ever make good on your threats. I truly hope no parent will suffer losing their child because of someone like you.

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

So in your opinion, this is most likely justified.

In their opinion, killing Palestinians is always justified.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -9 pts · 33d (3 replies)

I'm not threatening anyone. I don't think it makes sense to use lethal force in your very specific example because that is a tank. If he were throwing it at a person, then hell yeah let loose the hounds of war, that's deadly force

mastertigurius@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 32d

Again; you're convinced that you're entitled to murder a minor because he/she is throwing rocks at you. Glad we cleared that up. Now, would these universal rules of yours apply regardless of skin colour, gender, faith or cultural background?

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 33d (23 replies)

If someone attacks you you can shoot them back, isn't that common sense?

And why were the kids throwing rocks?

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -8 pts · 33d (22 replies)

Because they were raised to hate

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d

You’re a nazi piece of shit.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 33d (41 replies)

Well if I was invading and pillaging their home, I would kinda understand, at least enough to not fucking kill them.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -16 pts · 33d (40 replies)

I mean if you're staying at home in Tel Aviv you aren't invading anyone...settlers are another category but that's like wanting me to die as an American because some big bellied Southern rednecks say the South will rise again, ya know?

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 33d (39 replies)

The entire country is settler colonialism?? Who do you think lived there before the murderers showed up?

Grimy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 33d (26 replies)

One comment you talk openly about being a Zionist, the next you mention how you would kill a child at the slightest provocation. It almost feels like both comments are related somehow.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -14 pts · 33d (25 replies)

Hmm it seems like I am proudly a non-Jewish Zionist who appreciates our Israeli allies and I also would not lay down and die happily if I was being attacked, like you expect Israel to do.

So you are saying that your throwing arm is weak? Because if I threw a big ass rock and hit someone in the head they would probably die. You are claiming that's not an enemy combatant? Or you are saying you cant throw a rock? Both are interesting claims.

Grimy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d (24 replies)

If you are in someone's house against their will and a kid who lives there throws a rock at you, shooting them just makes it trespassing and murder.

Throwing arms at a kid is indeed weak, no matter the reason.

What a fucking joke. "I am a proud supporter of genocide". No one gives a fuck what your religion is or what false and disgusting justification you have. Vile.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -15 pts · 33d (23 replies)

It is very easy to use strong words like genocide. And you're a rapist! See how that works?

Inside Israel people have a huge problem with the settlers, just like here normal people have problems with guys who rant outside of planned parenthood. They're extremists. Most people aren't. I wonder if you have even thought of a solution? Mine would be to leave the existing borders, curtail settlers, and stop Hamas terrorists from bombing Israel every day. Most people are civilians and they would be dead without the Iron Dome.

You have no idea what's going on or how you could arrange it differently. You just like screaming genocide with spittle flying out of your mouth. Vile.

Grimy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 33d (1 reply)

You are the extremist. Commiting genocide and applauding it is extreme. Yes, it is a genocide, no matter how much you block your ears.

Prominent organizations that formally recognize Israel's actions as a genocide include the United Nations, the international Court of Justice, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, and the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention.

Wow, even people inside Israel are against the settlements?!?!? Do you think that's news to anyone? I expect at least some in the country to have retained their sanity. The rest who aren't against it, who participate in it and who defend it are still disgusting immoral blood thirsty rabid crazies.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, everything you say sounds incredibly hollow. Like a propoganda puppet spouting his little script. You have been indoctrinated, I hope for your sake you haven't embarrassed yourself in real life. If you find yourself losing friends and people pulling away, it probably has to do with you advocating child murder. To anyone that even has an ounce or morality and common sense, you come off as a lunatic saying shit like this.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -12 pts · 33d

Ohh the same MSF I won't volunteer with because they were aware of and failed to disclose Hamas tunnels under their hospitals? Paragons of virtue.

I'm okay in the friends department. If Canada was bombing me daily I'd probably be okay with us whooping their asses.

People like you don't actually care about anything, you just want to be on a high horse. And right now it's hot to hate on Israel and yell Free Palestine. Average people are tired of your ilk.

shillelagh@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 33d (2 replies)

give the Palestinians voting rights

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -10 pts · 33d (1 reply)

They have an entire country they can vote in???

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -6 pts · 33d

Lmao tell me I'm wrong, let's see sources

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 32d (17 replies)

I don't see why this guy is getting downvoted. He supports the only thing any centrist democrat has ever wanted, and this is .world

He's agreeing with every last biden/harris supporter on their only issue.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -4 pts · 32d (16 replies)

Who is he? What are you talking about?

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d

With the reading comprehension skills and capacity for honesty of a centrist, too.

athatet@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 33d (6 replies)

I promise you that no one wants to come for that shriveled lump.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -10 pts · 33d (5 replies)

Oh damn I forgot I was stupid, my bad

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d (4 replies)

Then let me remind you:

You're stupid

Don't breed

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -9 pts · 33d (3 replies)

I was just thinking about that--I think I might. I am very pretty and I have a few suitors who are wealthy and successful, or I could go the sperm transplant route if none of them step up. I have a lot of money and went to top universities in the US, so I probably should procreate. I would be a really good mom and I'd have a lot of support. I'm gonna wait until I'm 35 to decide. I just have to make sure I don't pass down issues around substances and I think I would raise some brilliant kids.

Is this the level of discourse accepted on this site?

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 33d (2 replies)

You're odious and tiresome

Poor trolling.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -6 pts · 33d

Is everyone who disagrees with you a troll? You have to convince yourself I am making up my beliefs because you can't accept that I genuinely think this way is the right way

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -6 pts · 33d

I don't find you particularly interesting either jsyk

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 33d (7 replies)

Settler freak

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 33d (6 replies)

Haven't yet, might consider it in the future cuz you're so rude

mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Also you said yourself in another comment that you're amerikkkan, so you literally a settler defending settlerism.

Settler freak, readsettlers.org.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 33d

Do you hear yourself when you equate settlers to regular American citizens? I was just born here bro and nobody alive was present when the land was stolen, let's adjust to reality

SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 33d (3 replies)

"Genocide is a-okay because somebody was mean to me on the Internet."

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -6 pts · 33d (2 replies)

genocide is a fun word let's keep diluting it

SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 33d (1 reply)

Hahaha, lame comeback.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -3 pts · 33d

stop genociding me

black0ut@pawb.social · 5 pts · 33d (3 replies)

Hasbara bot is back at it again. Big yahu is impressed with your service.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -8 pts · 33d (2 replies)

I wish I were being paid to fight with you shitheads

black0ut@pawb.social · 2 pts · 32d (1 reply)

No, you don't get paid. Big yahu pays his chatgpt subscription so you can exist. It's a different thing.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -4 pts · 32d

I have yet to benefit in any way from Netanyahu. Nobody has recruited me to vouch for Israel online. I get my money from my savings and my parents and it's only like 70K a year right now so I'm poor and sensitive about it so don't be mean

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d (18 replies)

if you’re coming for my brain I will end you

Too small a target.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 32d (17 replies)

Hehe clever. What's your job?

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 32d (16 replies)

Not giving personal details to a genocidal piece of shit on the internet, thanks.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -9 pts · 32d (15 replies)

Oh so nothing impressive, gotcha

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 32d (14 replies)

I've never murdered a Palestinian child, and nothing else impresses you.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -5 pts · 32d (3 replies)

Congrats, I've never murdered anyone! Maybe one of these days, who knows. I think we have enough Palestinian children

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d

Congrats, I’ve never murdered anyone!

I'm glad you lack either the means or the opportunity. You clearly want to.

YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · -7 pts · 32d (9 replies)

So your entire contribution to the discussion was: You have a small brain Genocide Children

Remind me why I should think you're smart?

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d

I'm not going to murder a Palestinian child just so you'll think I'm smart.