I once went on a date with a Russian girl. Later I found her Pinterest profile that featured, among other things, pictures of Russian soldiers trampling on Pride flags, Elon Musk and Andrew Tate. Later I stumbled onto her Tinder profile where the description read "PS. I'm a fan of Andrew Tate".
So I didn't only dodge a bullet, but a whole clip.
These news make me want to ask her "well, what do you think of Andrew Tate now?"
I dated a Russian girl for a couple of months and she had some really backwards morals, saying I shouldn't work out since I'm a man so I can be out shape while she needs to always look sexy. I always thought she was jking at first but she made me understand she was being 100% literal
Have they been extradited yet? I feel like the longer they’re in the US the more likely Trump is going to step in to pardon them — it’s federal and therefore possible right?
They aren't being charged in the US, they're being charged in the UK. They're dual citizens. I guess trump could stop them from being extradited? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwymly9yd33o
He could wave a pen, say they’re pardoned and refuse to extradite. But they still could never travel to the UK or any other nation that extradites to the UK.
Wouldn't be the first time Trump refused to extradite to the UK. There was that diplomat's wife who killed a kid by driving on the wrong side of the road in the UK. She fled and Trump refused extradition
I suspect that the Marshals made sure their bosses didn't know that they were enforcing the law like they're supposed to, until it was a fait accompli.
He might have a lot in common with these scum bags but that's not enough for him to act - there's nothing in it for him.
They're also headed to jail, which is the wrong direction for Trump. He will hitch his wagon to anyone who is popular and successful like Mandani, regardless of ideology. He avoids anyone who has fallen from grace, like these two.
The only reason he pardoned the Jan 6 insurrectionists is because he may need to rely on similar support in future.
Doubtful. Trump has accumulated hundreds of billions in wealth in the last year. I don't think the brothers entire wealth would be interesting to little T.
The primary purpose of prisons should be to prevent dangerous people from causing harm to others. The secondary should be to reform and rehabilitate, where possible.
Compare extradition of the Tate idiots to some other shit extradition from Spain of a, not kidding, Cox Communication empire heir who funds humanitarian efforts
In July 2026, Chambers was arrested in Ibiza, Spain, and ordered held without bail pursuant to a sealed extradition request from the United States Department of Justice relating to his financial support for Palestinian causes; his family, his legal team, and left-wing politicians in Spain and Ireland described the action as politically motivated.[6][7][8] As of mid-July 2026, Chambers remained in custody in Spain pending the outcome of extradition proceedings.[8]
You know I don't usually advocate for extreme measures. There are already enough people carrying pitchforks and torches in these comment sections. But just this once, I'll make an exception.
Lock them up and throw away the key. They're a complete waste of humanity.
You do realize that these pedo assholes are very popular among Republicans and that Trump intervened with the Romanian government to let them travel back to the US despite then being under investigation there for the same shit and they've been working with Baron for Republican outreach?
Literal death cults. As a living person, I find them intolerable and so should you. Don't be shortsighted, all life depends on the truth that defines us.
You hope for a less humane system? Weird. I don't think that stops people like the Tates, in all likelihood it helps create the kind of society they've thrived in: One that's callously hyper masculine and irresponsible.
With ideas like that around, he can one day emerge bragging about how he's a chad for beating up rape gangs and surviving a prison combat ring.
I think doing what was done to Anders Brievek would be better: The world shocked by how humane he's kept, and news of him begging for a PS4 comes out. It showed him off as immature, needy, and overly reactionary.
I don’t think that stops people like the Tates, in all likelihood it helps create the kind of society they’ve thrived in: One that’s callously hyper masculine and irresponsible.
I wish more people understood just how precisely and even exactly true this is in practice. This kind of crime is always present to some degree or another, but it doesn't flourish when society itself has safety nets, help for people in crisis, and communities that in general care about the well-being of their members.
All I can do is copy my comment from above. Judge a society on how it treats its prisoners. I hope the Tate brothers are imprisoned for decades in accordance with the law
People like the Tate brothers have had an incredibly huge and terrible influence on society on a global scale. They've started a whole culture of misogyny on a scale which we've never seen before. They've also trafficked human beings who were exploited for sex.
They used their platform to cause unimaginable harm on the minds of young boys and men. Little girls, women and queer people have suffered from men who listened to them. This will have a lasting effect that'll probably take decades or a whole generation to decrease and eliminate.
So don't give me this holier than thou BS. People like him and Charlie Kirk deserve to suffer the violence they preached, enabled, and inflicted.
Was it anybody else for any other kind of crime, I might agree with you depending on the case. But not in this one.
There's nothing "holier than thou" about this my man. There isn't a crime possible where you're going to be able to justify rape as an appropriate punishment. They can spend the rest of their lives in prison
Rape is a confusing event involving disregard and disrespect for someone's autonomy, words, sensations, and body. It's disempowering, hurtful, and confusing, that's part of why it's traumatic. Parts of it exist in a gray area, whilst other parts are horribly negative.
People can and have been raped by people they were attracted to. In relationships with, or even people they married. That doesn't make it harmless, or okay.
Saying "they're probably gay so they might like it" is more the rapists viewpoint than someone understanding the victims. It's like saying "they flirted with me so they obviously wanted it". Or "she's a slut she probably enjoyed it".
... ultimately we have to understand these arguments and see them, so we don't perpetuate that kind of thinking.
Remember that you're defending the Tate brothers here. Do you even realize the impact these two assholes had on the world with their hate platform? The misogynistic and homophobic movement and trends they created? The number of young boys and men they influenced?
As I mentioned to someone else, people like them or Charlie Kirk deserve to suffer the same violence they preached and enabled.
I'm not defending anyone specifically, I'm defending EVERYONE against rape culture and the cycle of encouraging violence.
The idea that someone deserves violence IS the problem. People deserve clarity, a sense of self-awareness, a lifting up of intelligent responsibility to themselves and others.
"Corrective rape" or "corrective violence" won't bring anyone closer to a sense of empathy, or intelligent responsibility to the community and others.
At some point we have to get past these views that violence is useful, or a way to fixing things. Ultimately a better society has to be constructed, that takes effort and thoughtfulness over time... You can't violence your way to a better world. Ultimately you have to exercise, educate, communicate, and hence form the characters that you want to have in the world. That takes effortful care, not destruction and harm.
I don't think the prison system will change the Tate',s perspective, I don't think a beating will either. I think being raised in a better society probably has the best chance.
To my mind, it's not a society where certain people "deserve" violence for the violence they decided ithers deserve. You're just going to end up with a lot of violence and resentment if that's your model of life.
You need to have restorative, communicative, and peaceful forms of justice, rather than a punishment and retribution model of justice. Ultimately someone has to build the better world.
Seeing these two fuckers get the same treatment they gave their victims would be justified here IMO. Fuck these guys and thier bullshIt Trump passport they rode in on.
I don't think you understand the socially programatic subjegation of women then - the "same treatment as their victims" would be them raised in a society their bodies are covetted, hit on by adults as soon as they start puberty. Told to diet and not put on too much muscle or fat. A count down clock and only fans account offered when they turn 18, a series of disrespectful and inappropriately sexual or abusive men in their lives - and a society that does this to all boys and men to the point the rape statistics are inverted.
Really you want that to happen to all men? For them to become victims and statistics in a sexually abusive system of gendered subjegation?
Feeling like you're more masculine or elevated for wishing violence (and sexual violence) on others is MORE LIKE the Tate brothers, not less. Its on their side, not on their victims side.
Perhaps: "I wish for a society where men were connected to their emotions, empathy, and effects on others and the world" would be a statement against the Tate brothers.
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QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz · 51 pts · 28d
I once went on a date with a Russian girl. Later I found her Pinterest profile that featured, among other things, pictures of Russian soldiers trampling on Pride flags, Elon Musk and Andrew Tate. Later I stumbled onto her Tinder profile where the description read "PS. I'm a fan of Andrew Tate".
So I didn't only dodge a bullet, but a whole clip.
These news make me want to ask her "well, what do you think of Andrew Tate now?"
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 28d
Probably no difference in opinion.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 28d
Yeah, women like that have so much internalized misogyny. No way she’d believe the allegations are true even if he’s convicted
Dagnet@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 28d
I dated a Russian girl for a couple of months and she had some really backwards morals, saying I shouldn't work out since I'm a man so I can be out shape while she needs to always look sexy. I always thought she was jking at first but she made me understand she was being 100% literal
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
LiBrUl WiTcH hUnT
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 34 pts · 28d
Have they been extradited yet? I feel like the longer they’re in the US the more likely Trump is going to step in to pardon them — it’s federal and therefore possible right?
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 28d
They aren't being charged in the US, they're being charged in the UK. They're dual citizens. I guess trump could stop them from being extradited? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwymly9yd33o
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 28d
The president can’t pardon crimes another country is prosecuting.
obviouspornalt@fedinsfw.app · 19 pts · 28d
well, not with that attitude, certainly. but have you considered that no one in charge gives a shit about the law?
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 28d
He could wave a pen, say they’re pardoned and refuse to extradite. But they still could never travel to the UK or any other nation that extradites to the UK.
BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 28d
They fled to the US for amnesty because they don't intend to do so, but it would sour the American relationship with the UK even further
Taldan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
Wouldn't be the first time Trump refused to extradite to the UK. There was that diplomat's wife who killed a kid by driving on the wrong side of the road in the UK. She fled and Trump refused extradition
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 28d
Clearly the plan didn’t work considering US Marshals did in fact arrest them.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 26d
I suspect that the Marshals made sure their bosses didn't know that they were enforcing the law like they're supposed to, until it was a fait accompli.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 26d
Refusing an extradition request is not a pardon.
fizzle@quokk.au · 10 pts · 28d
Doesn't really seem "on brand" for Trump.
He might have a lot in common with these scum bags but that's not enough for him to act - there's nothing in it for him.
They're also headed to jail, which is the wrong direction for Trump. He will hitch his wagon to anyone who is popular and successful like Mandani, regardless of ideology. He avoids anyone who has fallen from grace, like these two.
The only reason he pardoned the Jan 6 insurrectionists is because he may need to rely on similar support in future.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 26d
I'm sure that there are negotiations going on with the Taints about thow much they should pay for Trump to interfere in the extradition.
fizzle@quokk.au · 1 pts · 26d
Doubtful. Trump has accumulated hundreds of billions in wealth in the last year. I don't think the brothers entire wealth would be interesting to little T.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d
The idea being you can pardon someone of another jurisdiction's crimes...? I need to smoke another bowl apparently
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
Always a correct conclusion on this fucky timeline
tal@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 28d
This doesn't make sense.
You extradite someone if they have charges in another jurisdiction. Presidential pardons would only apply to (federal) US charges.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 10 pts · 28d
I mean I feel like Trump would step in to block their extradition, not magically drop their charges in other countries.
WesternInfidels@feddit.online · 5 pts · 28d
Hey, if you can steer a hurricane with a Sharpie...
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de · 24 pts · 28d
The Tates are the new Epstein. Hope they speed run to the end.
lemmelemmy@feddit.org · 25 pts · 28d
Tate is a small fry compared to Epstein
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 28d
nah, they are low-level employees compared to epstein. epstein acquires "talent" from many countries.
Neon_Carnivore@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 28d
Always the ones you most expect...
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 28d
Looking forward to forgetting these guys exist.
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 28d
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d
Unless we get the delightful Ian Watkins news about them. That'll be a good day.
adam_y@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 27d
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 2 pts · 27d
The primary purpose of prisons should be to prevent dangerous people from causing harm to others. The secondary should be to reform and rehabilitate, where possible.
Violence in prisons fails both.
FishFace@piefed.social · 7 pts · 28d
Non-video source?
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 27d
The one on the right looks like the one on the left is hallucinating himself as a giant asshole
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d
😂😂😂😂
This was way more funny than it has in your ride today!
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 28d
Compare extradition of the Tate idiots to some other shit extradition from Spain of a, not kidding, Cox Communication empire heir who funds humanitarian efforts
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d
Elaborate?
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 28d
In July 2026, Chambers was arrested in Ibiza, Spain, and ordered held without bail pursuant to a sealed extradition request from the United States Department of Justice relating to his financial support for Palestinian causes; his family, his legal team, and left-wing politicians in Spain and Ireland described the action as politically motivated.[6][7][8] As of mid-July 2026, Chambers remained in custody in Spain pending the outcome of extradition proceedings.[8]
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 28d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergie_Chambers
Might be that guy.
BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 28d
What a wild ride of a Wikipedia page
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
I love that the only relative he's still in contact with is his grandma, Margaret fucking Hamilton. Also wtf he was Marjorie Taylor Greene's boss!
He does sound incredibly unpleasant to be around and like my working class ass would have plenty of conflict with him
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
You know I don't usually advocate for extreme measures. There are already enough people carrying pitchforks and torches in these comment sections. But just this once, I'll make an exception.
Lock them up and throw away the key. They're a complete waste of humanity.
Lanske@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d
Scumbags
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 27d
The real crime is that scum like that can become internationally known celebrities with outsized influence over young people.
AliOski@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 28d
Why are you talking about Republican Christian values if Andrew Tate converted to Islam? At least, that's what I understood.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 28d
You do realize that these pedo assholes are very popular among Republicans and that Trump intervened with the Romanian government to let them travel back to the US despite then being under investigation there for the same shit and they've been working with Baron for Republican outreach?
That's why.
AliOski@feddit.nl · -9 pts · 28d
What does Andrew Tate have to do with Christian values?
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 28d
He's buddy buddy with republicans who pretend to have values. He just explained it
AliOski@feddit.nl · -9 pts · 28d
If I'm a buddy with a Muslim, while I'm Christian, what does the fact he is Muslim have to do with me?
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 28d
AliOski@feddit.nl · -7 pts · 28d
Firstly, I didn't say I was, secondly, I don't agree with you, thirdly, I don't care what you think.
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 28d
As a person sharing a planet with you, I care a lot what you think. Please help ensure that our beliefs align as closely with reality as possible.
Death cults are intolerable.
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 28d
Literal death cults. As a living person, I find them intolerable and so should you. Don't be shortsighted, all life depends on the truth that defines us.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 26d
They're Christian like fundies are Christians: bigoted shitheads.
Snapz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
"Just asking questions", bro?
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 28d
Wait, what?
AliOski@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 28d
He was praying to Allah when he was imprisoned in Romania is what I recollect.
Edit: yup, he converted to Islam in 2022 and there has been no sign of him converting back to Christianity or atheism.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 25d
Didn't Trump help him get into the US? Maybe they hate women worse than Islam. It's all so confusing.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · -1 pts · 28d
velma@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 28d
Justifying rape is in turn upholding and reinforcing rape culture.
No one deserves to be raped.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 28d
You hope for a less humane system? Weird. I don't think that stops people like the Tates, in all likelihood it helps create the kind of society they've thrived in: One that's callously hyper masculine and irresponsible.
With ideas like that around, he can one day emerge bragging about how he's a chad for beating up rape gangs and surviving a prison combat ring.
I think doing what was done to Anders Brievek would be better: The world shocked by how humane he's kept, and news of him begging for a PS4 comes out. It showed him off as immature, needy, and overly reactionary.
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 28d
I wish more people understood just how precisely and even exactly true this is in practice. This kind of crime is always present to some degree or another, but it doesn't flourish when society itself has safety nets, help for people in crisis, and communities that in general care about the well-being of their members.
protist@retrofed.com · 9 pts · 28d
I hope none of these things ever happen to anyone in prison
velma@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 28d
It’s horrifying how much rape is seen as appropriate punishment.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 28d
We've really been trained to believe rape is a state sanctioned punishment imposed as part of incarceration.
It's inconceivable that we might operate a prison system that isn't some kind of Kafka-esque nightmare intent on breaking people of their humanity.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 28d
I hope it happens to the Tate brothers. If anyone deserves it, it's them.
protist@retrofed.com · 9 pts · 28d
All I can do is copy my comment from above. Judge a society on how it treats its prisoners. I hope the Tate brothers are imprisoned for decades in accordance with the law
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 0 pts · 28d
People like the Tate brothers have had an incredibly huge and terrible influence on society on a global scale. They've started a whole culture of misogyny on a scale which we've never seen before. They've also trafficked human beings who were exploited for sex.
They used their platform to cause unimaginable harm on the minds of young boys and men. Little girls, women and queer people have suffered from men who listened to them. This will have a lasting effect that'll probably take decades or a whole generation to decrease and eliminate.
So don't give me this holier than thou BS. People like him and Charlie Kirk deserve to suffer the violence they preached, enabled, and inflicted.
Was it anybody else for any other kind of crime, I might agree with you depending on the case. But not in this one.
protist@retrofed.com · 4 pts · 28d
There's nothing "holier than thou" about this my man. There isn't a crime possible where you're going to be able to justify rape as an appropriate punishment. They can spend the rest of their lives in prison
MrSelfDestruct@piefed.zip · -7 pts · 28d
Seeing how most of these toxic masculine dudes seem to be closeted, they might like it.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 28d
Rape is a confusing event involving disregard and disrespect for someone's autonomy, words, sensations, and body. It's disempowering, hurtful, and confusing, that's part of why it's traumatic. Parts of it exist in a gray area, whilst other parts are horribly negative.
People can and have been raped by people they were attracted to. In relationships with, or even people they married. That doesn't make it harmless, or okay.
Saying "they're probably gay so they might like it" is more the rapists viewpoint than someone understanding the victims. It's like saying "they flirted with me so they obviously wanted it". Or "she's a slut she probably enjoyed it".
... ultimately we have to understand these arguments and see them, so we don't perpetuate that kind of thinking.
MrSelfDestruct@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 28d
Sorry. I totally understand your point.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · -5 pts · 28d
Remember that you're defending the Tate brothers here. Do you even realize the impact these two assholes had on the world with their hate platform? The misogynistic and homophobic movement and trends they created? The number of young boys and men they influenced?
As I mentioned to someone else, people like them or Charlie Kirk deserve to suffer the same violence they preached and enabled.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d
I'm not defending anyone specifically, I'm defending EVERYONE against rape culture and the cycle of encouraging violence.
The idea that someone deserves violence IS the problem. People deserve clarity, a sense of self-awareness, a lifting up of intelligent responsibility to themselves and others.
"Corrective rape" or "corrective violence" won't bring anyone closer to a sense of empathy, or intelligent responsibility to the community and others.
At some point we have to get past these views that violence is useful, or a way to fixing things. Ultimately a better society has to be constructed, that takes effort and thoughtfulness over time... You can't violence your way to a better world. Ultimately you have to exercise, educate, communicate, and hence form the characters that you want to have in the world. That takes effortful care, not destruction and harm.
I don't think the prison system will change the Tate',s perspective, I don't think a beating will either. I think being raised in a better society probably has the best chance.
To my mind, it's not a society where certain people "deserve" violence for the violence they decided ithers deserve. You're just going to end up with a lot of violence and resentment if that's your model of life.
You need to have restorative, communicative, and peaceful forms of justice, rather than a punishment and retribution model of justice. Ultimately someone has to build the better world.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 28d
You’re supporting the exact rape culture that helped create the Tate brothers.
Hairyfishnuts@feddit.online · -4 pts · 28d
velma@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 28d
No one deserves to be raped.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 28d
Seeing these two fuckers get the same treatment they gave their victims would be justified here IMO. Fuck these guys and thier bullshIt Trump passport they rode in on.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 28d
They should be held accountable to the fullest, but calling for rape is disgusting.
No one deserves to be raped.
Their victims didn't deserve it and giving it back to them isn't justice.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 28d
Vitcims might think differently.
velma@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 28d
You don’t represent them.
Justifying rape is protecting rape culture.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 28d
"I view sexual violence as a means of denegration that gives me power and control" <--- that's a pro-Tate view you have there.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 28d
It's a reasonable feeling, but an unreasonable request.
We don't get to kick the shit out of assaulters or swipe the legit property of thieves, either.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d
I don't think you understand the socially programatic subjegation of women then - the "same treatment as their victims" would be them raised in a society their bodies are covetted, hit on by adults as soon as they start puberty. Told to diet and not put on too much muscle or fat. A count down clock and only fans account offered when they turn 18, a series of disrespectful and inappropriately sexual or abusive men in their lives - and a society that does this to all boys and men to the point the rape statistics are inverted.
Really you want that to happen to all men? For them to become victims and statistics in a sexually abusive system of gendered subjegation?
Feeling like you're more masculine or elevated for wishing violence (and sexual violence) on others is MORE LIKE the Tate brothers, not less. Its on their side, not on their victims side.
Perhaps: "I wish for a society where men were connected to their emotions, empathy, and effects on others and the world" would be a statement against the Tate brothers.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 28d
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."