Unnecessary tangent: the main thing that makes them so good* is that they wrap them in foil before handing them to you, letting the bun heat up and steam a bit. You could microwave a cheap bun for a few seconds at home and get the same experience while saving several dollars. Or grill/toast it for one that blows ballpark dogs out of the water.
* Besides cooking them well enough, which most people don't do because the perfect hot dog takes multiple times longer than the instructions say. Simply heating them through isn't enough - blistered is better!
You can also (lightly) score them down their length before cooking for more surface area (the cuts will pop open during cooking) and a firmer texture. Even one line makes a huge difference in how they come out.
It's basically the same thing as that spiral cut technique that was going around a while back, but doesn't need a skewer and requires a hundredth the effort.
I haven't been to Dodgers, but they have a reputation for being a pretty terrible hotdog due to the sponsor being mediocre.
On the flip side, all of the Chicago stadiums are sponsored by the best in the business, Vienna.
When I was more directly involved in lower-scale hotdog slinging, we'd get a similar result by holding the buns in a steam table, making them warm and fluffy. Boil a pack of hotdogs, finish them on the grill... A boil-grilled Vienna 6" 6:1 on an S. Rosen (Alpha Baking) 5" bun with diced onion, celery salt, mustard, and ketchup... Perfection.
Pretty much everywhere in the Chicago region uses the exact same hotdog bun you can get in every grocery store here. Most stores don't carry the poppyseed variant though.
Back when I used to drink beer, I never understood lite beer. It's just beer with added carbonated water. I preferred drinking 1 normal beer vs swilling down 2 or 3 lite beers like a lot of my friends did.
If you buy it at a grocer, the IPA is actually cheaper for the alcohol you get now too. It's like 2x strength. 18 bucks, 20 out the door for a 15 or 12 pack, when a thirty pack of light beer or a case is like 30 bucks to 25 or so.
Miller lite is 12 fl oz, 4.2% ABV. A baseball game is typically 2.5 hours long. Assuming a 200 lbs man, and using the calculator.net BAC calculator, drinking 3-5 beers over the course of the game will leave him in the "buzz" range between 0.02% and 0.06% BAC at the end of the game.
Consuming 23 beers over the course of the game will result in a 0.38% BAC, which calculator.net helpfully describes with:
"Stupor, central nervous system depression, loss of understanding, lapses in and out of consciousness, low possibility of death"
In metric:
Miller lite is 0.355 liters, 4.2% ABV. A batball game is typically 9 kiloseconds long. Assuming a 90.71847 kg man, and using the calculator.net BAC calculator, drinking 0.3-0.5 decabeers over the course of the game will leave him in the "buzz" range between 0.02 metric% and 0.06 metric% BAC at the end of the game.
The calculator.net BAC calculations assume a linear reduction in BAC over time, so as long as you start drinking at the beginning of the game, and never get down to 0% before you finish drinking it works out the same under those assumptions.
I highly doubt it. It's probably like $5 for a single 12oz can. The kind you could buy a 6 pack of for the same price.
In that same breath, $13 beers are just insane. There's no logistical cost or reason for them being that expensive other than they have you restricted as a captive audience. It doesn't cost them nearly that much, but you'll pay it, because otherwise it's nothing. And baseball without beer should just be classified as a genevia level form of torture.
One of my oldest schemes was to make a sort of like russian hat, those high fur ones, and sneak a six pack in there, hooked up to tubes, where you can sneak the tube down to your mouth and drink. For football more where the temperature is colder.
But it could be done with any sort of diaphram. I think military guys carry like a bladder of water, something like that on the belly with loose clothing made to look like you were overweight would work, at least for us skinny people.
Depends on how crazy security is. I've seen it done with a CamelBak, dark fabric, and a decoy water pouch. Then again I've also seen a guy that brought so much beer through security that he built a little pyramid of cans on the seat in front of him.
The baseball team by me does $5 hot dog specials on certain days. $8 ain't atypical for ballpark dogs sadly. Also $10 for nachos is cheaper than I've seen. It's why I'll only go if I can grab $20ish dollar seats, cause after food its closer to $50 for the day per person.
Although mountain dew is unhealthy in the additional way of shrinking your testicles, just a little bit. Have fun with that guys! (yellow 5, it's in pickled goods now too, and a host of other processed foods. Because don't you hate it when your food isn't yellow enough?)
I remember several years ago when someone tried to sell a clear cola with no caramel coloring. I am pretty sure it was Pepsi. Cheaper for them to make, and a little bit less unhealthy for the consumer. People wouldn't buy it, so they gave up on selling it.
$13 beer is why I bring my own booze to sporting events!
They could have easilly had me get 8-14 beers at $5 a piece and make money, but instead their greedy asses get $5 for a pop to be used as mixer. Bastards!
IASIP taught kids how to pregame with antifreeze (don't do it, joke) and huffing glue. Gen X boomers who already have a house, and avocado toast lifestyle can learn finance tips too.
Hope daddy brought a designated driver 🤦🏼♀️ His dear son just wanted quality time with Dad but instead got a day with a drunk guy & overpriced junk food 😥
77 Comments
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 129 pts · 1d
I'd say twenty-three miller lites are the bare minimum needed to make baseball enjoyable.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 1d
What do you need to pre-game to make the Miller Lites enjoyable?
pentastarm@piefed.ca · 48 pts · 1d
No self respect.
bytejunk@piefed.social · 2 pts · 8h
A dark and troubled past.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 20h
Miller High Life of course, it's the champagne of beers
Broadfern@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 1d
Baseball is the socially acceptable background noise for sitting in public and drinking beer, tbf
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 25 pts · 1d
Baseball and beer goes together like bus stops and hard liquor.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Like barrel fires and fentanyl
Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Slow pace allows bullshitting and people watching
henchmannumber3@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6h
Yeah, but that doesn't apply here since he was drinking Miller Lite, not beer.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
Ballpark dogs also help.
Unnecessary tangent: the main thing that makes them so good* is that they wrap them in foil before handing them to you, letting the bun heat up and steam a bit. You could microwave a cheap bun for a few seconds at home and get the same experience while saving several dollars. Or grill/toast it for one that blows ballpark dogs out of the water.
* Besides cooking them well enough, which most people don't do because the perfect hot dog takes multiple times longer than the instructions say. Simply heating them through isn't enough - blistered is better!
Godric@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
Air fryer has totally changed my hotdog game, shit's unreal
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
You can also (lightly) score them down their length before cooking for more surface area (the cuts will pop open during cooking) and a firmer texture. Even one line makes a huge difference in how they come out.
It's basically the same thing as that spiral cut technique that was going around a while back, but doesn't need a skewer and requires a hundredth the effort.
Godric@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
You know your dogs!
DeadDigger@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
Air fryer changed my cooking game in general
phailhaus@piefed.social · 2 pts · 22h
I haven't been to Dodgers, but they have a reputation for being a pretty terrible hotdog due to the sponsor being mediocre.
On the flip side, all of the Chicago stadiums are sponsored by the best in the business, Vienna.
When I was more directly involved in lower-scale hotdog slinging, we'd get a similar result by holding the buns in a steam table, making them warm and fluffy. Boil a pack of hotdogs, finish them on the grill... A boil-grilled Vienna 6" 6:1 on an S. Rosen (Alpha Baking) 5" bun with diced onion, celery salt, mustard, and ketchup... Perfection.
Pretty much everywhere in the Chicago region uses the exact same hotdog bun you can get in every grocery store here. Most stores don't carry the poppyseed variant though.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · -1 pts · 1d
Blistered is better. Not as good as not eating hot dogs, (best.)
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 1d
Yet nothing makes miller light enjoyable. Monkey piss.
Boozilla@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1d
Back when I used to drink beer, I never understood lite beer. It's just beer with added carbonated water. I preferred drinking 1 normal beer vs swilling down 2 or 3 lite beers like a lot of my friends did.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 1d
If you buy it at a grocer, the IPA is actually cheaper for the alcohol you get now too. It's like 2x strength. 18 bucks, 20 out the door for a 15 or 12 pack, when a thirty pack of light beer or a case is like 30 bucks to 25 or so.
And the IPA actually tastes good to boot.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 1d
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1d
That came up in LearnedLeague at one point. It’s candles, isn’t it?
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 22h
Yes
Ickyboo@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 18h
$300 for water?!?!
jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org · 39 pts · 1d
Who could sit through a baseball game without 23 beers?
Better make them Lite, though, I'm on a diet.
AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1d
46 comments and nobody's suggested that's how many Miller Lights you need to get a buzz?
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 19h
Miller lite is 12 fl oz, 4.2% ABV. A baseball game is typically 2.5 hours long. Assuming a 200 lbs man, and using the calculator.net BAC calculator, drinking 3-5 beers over the course of the game will leave him in the "buzz" range between 0.02% and 0.06% BAC at the end of the game.
Consuming 23 beers over the course of the game will result in a 0.38% BAC, which calculator.net helpfully describes with:
"Stupor, central nervous system depression, loss of understanding, lapses in and out of consciousness, low possibility of death"
In metric:
Miller lite is 0.355 liters, 4.2% ABV. A batball game is typically 9 kiloseconds long. Assuming a 90.71847 kg man, and using the calculator.net BAC calculator, drinking 0.3-0.5 decabeers over the course of the game will leave him in the "buzz" range between 0.02 metric% and 0.06 metric% BAC at the end of the game.
IndigoLarry@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 11h
Your calculations are off. Most ballparks stop selling beer in the 8th inning.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 7h
Most only sell you 2 beers at a time too... or maybe that's just a Wisconsin thing idk i haven't been to a baseball game outside the state.
IndigoLarry@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
That is also true. Good point.
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9h
The calculator.net BAC calculations assume a linear reduction in BAC over time, so as long as you start drinking at the beginning of the game, and never get down to 0% before you finish drinking it works out the same under those assumptions.
IndigoLarry@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 9h
Ty, I'd like for you to crunch those numbers again.
Just crunch 'em. Just crunch 'em, please.
1:00 min mark - https://youtu.be/jHNBKg9xI6Q
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
It's a website, there's no such thing as...
clicks refresh Crunch.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 12h
Whew, thank you, this was getting so confusing until that point.
Also,
Those appear to be desirable for a significant subset of US people nowadays from what I see online.
Hoimo@ani.social · 5 pts · 14h
This man is 200 imperial pounds, 0 imperial ounces and 0 milligrains.
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
He's also spherical and frictionless, poor guy.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 1d
Okay, but unless these are gourmet nachos, gourmet hot dogs, and gourmet mountain dew, this is still gouging before the Miller Lites.
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d
I highly doubt it. It's probably like $5 for a single 12oz can. The kind you could buy a 6 pack of for the same price.
In that same breath, $13 beers are just insane. There's no logistical cost or reason for them being that expensive other than they have you restricted as a captive audience. It doesn't cost them nearly that much, but you'll pay it, because otherwise it's nothing. And baseball without beer should just be classified as a genevia level form of torture.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 1d
One of my oldest schemes was to make a sort of like russian hat, those high fur ones, and sneak a six pack in there, hooked up to tubes, where you can sneak the tube down to your mouth and drink. For football more where the temperature is colder.
But it could be done with any sort of diaphram. I think military guys carry like a bladder of water, something like that on the belly with loose clothing made to look like you were overweight would work, at least for us skinny people.
groucho@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 1d
Depends on how crazy security is. I've seen it done with a CamelBak, dark fabric, and a decoy water pouch. Then again I've also seen a guy that brought so much beer through security that he built a little pyramid of cans on the seat in front of him.
ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1d
I can also see some benefit to having fewer drunk people in a stadium, but I'm sure it's mostly just profit chasing.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
I was mostly just making a joke about Gourmet Mountain Dew, and that the point remains that stadium prices are insane.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1d
Yes that’s stadium pricing. Pay $10-$15 for a hot dog that makes the Costco $1.50 hot dog look gourmet.
grue@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
The Costco $1.50 hot dog is gourmet!
Or at least it was, until they stopped giving out sauerkraut and brown mustard <grumble, grumble>
But seriously though, Costco hot dogs are objectively excellent, regardless of price.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
$4 for a stadium hotdog seems reasonable
ceenote@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
The receipt says $8 per hot dog.
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
The baseball team by me does $5 hot dog specials on certain days. $8 ain't atypical for ballpark dogs sadly. Also $10 for nachos is cheaper than I've seen. It's why I'll only go if I can grab $20ish dollar seats, cause after food its closer to $50 for the day per person.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Oh yeah.. math is hard.
$8 sounds about what you'd pay. Captive audience and all that. But that's definitely the gouging.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 1d
HA-HA, "he buy too many beer."
Ok but there's NO FUCKING WAY a $3 trash beer should be $13, and they give you those small ass Dixie Cups.
LePoisson@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20h
They're overpriced to keep people from drinking more but also I agree with you.
Killer57@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 1d
The only reason that anybody should ever have 23 beers at a baseball game, is if it's .10 cent beer night.
skidicarus@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 21h
Or they're watching the Orioles play.
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 19h
Maybe his kids shouldn't drink so much beer.
TIEPilot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
Someone needs to learn about "pre-gaming". I'm a baller on a budget.
themaninblack@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 22h
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-meal-just-cost-me-78-at-newark-airport
jqubed@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
What an odd thing to post on a LinkedIn profile
EpeeGnome@feddit.online · 3 pts · 1d
Dudes a CEO and he's posting "I'm an alcoholic LOL" jokes on his LinkedIn. Wild.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
There's no way it's not a joke post/account
MunkyNutts@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Try this one trick to save on your drinking bill!
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mechoman444@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 21h
I mean 50+ dollars for hot dogs nachos and some sodas is still highway robbery.
Polisheocket@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 20h
Not in the LA sport scene. It’s pretty normal. Want to live in an amazing area you will be paying for it. Rams and chargers same thing
jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 10h
The good news is you don't have to watch baseball in order to live in LA.
Polisheocket@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 9h
Ha, very true. You also don’t need to drink 43 beers to have a good time at a game
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1d
That could easily be 6-8 adults and 2 kids (we told them not to bring the kids, but they never listen).
Hikermick@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
Somebody's gotta be the designated driver
workerONE@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Four Mountain Dews is not healthy
SolSerkonos@piefed.social · 4 pts · 1d
23 beers, however... well, it's Miller Lite so it's basically slightly alcoholic badly flavored water.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 3 pts · 1d
* Alcoholic FLAVORED
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Mountain dew is not healthy. Pop is not healthy.
Although mountain dew is unhealthy in the additional way of shrinking your testicles, just a little bit. Have fun with that guys! (yellow 5, it's in pickled goods now too, and a host of other processed foods. Because don't you hate it when your food isn't yellow enough?)
Boozilla@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
I remember several years ago when someone tried to sell a clear cola with no caramel coloring. I am pretty sure it was Pepsi. Cheaper for them to make, and a little bit less unhealthy for the consumer. People wouldn't buy it, so they gave up on selling it.
Godric@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
$13 beer is why I bring my own booze to sporting events!
They could have easilly had me get 8-14 beers at $5 a piece and make money, but instead their greedy asses get $5 for a pop to be used as mixer. Bastards!
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 1d
I just mix with water now I don't even give a fuck.
stoly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
And you can only run a tab in a box lol
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 7h
IASIP taught kids how to pregame with antifreeze (don't do it, joke) and huffing glue. Gen X boomers who already have a house, and avocado toast lifestyle can learn finance tips too.
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 22h
Hope daddy brought a designated driver 🤦🏼♀️ His dear son just wanted quality time with Dad but instead got a day with a drunk guy & overpriced junk food 😥
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 23h
Could've just bought 11 Miller regulars.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 1d
$13 beers is surprisingly reasonable. I would have assumed LA was more expensive. That's cheaper than local stadiums in my experience.