The karma of these people is far below zero. They don’t know it, but they constantly punish themselves. (This doesn’t mean the judiciary shouldn’t help them find enlightenment 😉)
NSFW seems extreme. It's violence, but not unsafe for work. There's no blood or gore. We only truly know there's harm done due to news reports. Marking it NSFW would mean the largest UK Lemmy instance would then not be able to see this UK content because of our stupid internet laws.
Mr Brown smashed his head off the road and suffered serious head injuries including a fractured skull and bleeding on the brain.
Cowardly Hedley then left the 34-year-old cyclist lying unconscious in the middle of the road before getting back into his car and driving off.
Hedley, from Kirkcaldy, Fife, subsequently found out police had put out an appeal to find the motorist involved and he handed himself into a local station two days later.
Hedley pleaded guilty to assaulting Mr Brown to his severe injury, permanent impairment and to the danger of his life when he appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Tuesday, September 22.
I got a super bad concussion when I fell and hit the back of my head on some concrete a while back. It took nearly three weeks for my symptoms to go away. I got really lucky I didn't get anything more serious. We were concerned that I permanently damaged my occipital lobe because my visual issues were not improving. Thankfully I got better, but goddamn. I can't imagine a brain injury as severe as that guy's. It's terrifying.
This is the UK, there aren't any medical bills. He should and likely will be made to lay for loss of earnings and any additional support he might need.
Most people don't have any insurance to cover this precisely because the NHS will always pick up the bill. I've never heard of any criminal getting a bill for medical charges they've caused. Here in Germany, its all personal insurance - albeit strictly regulated. Maybe that's how it works in France?
Actually, Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I’m from Texas. I once witnessed a guy who took a lady cyclist right of way, nothing much you may say, but I got my gun out and shot a hole in the car’s motor the size of a bowling ball. An eye for an eye, thought him a lesson I tell you.
Alas, this altercation was witnessed by the police, and I was arrested for aggravated assault. Seems the female cyclist didn’t have the right of way after all. I write these lines from prison, but I would still vote for Trump in the next election.
My decision to ride armed was finalized after being followed for 5+ miles by a jeep full of large dudes yelling physical threats at me for riding a bicycle.
I had to hide under a bridge until they got tired of looking for me. Lovely story though.
They'd back off, because people who use their cars to bully cyclists are extreme pussies. They only harass others when they think the other side is powerless
Understand the sentiment. I only ride on the little reserved infrastructure there is or on quiet roads. Motor vehicles still use the cycle path anyway, bicycle jousting seems like a solution when you get passed by an idiot on an electric scooter going 80 kph on a narrow path.
If you see someone who is bigger than you get out of their car, while you are already in a heated exchange, have some self-preservation in you to be able to react in a way that this mentally unwell piece of shit can't just grab you by the neck and slam you down. Get ready to fight, or please just leave the scene as quickly and safely as you can.
I don't blame the biker. All around the world "people" are becoming more and more like animals. Acknowledge this, and prepare yourself for anything these animals might do. :-/
I'm afraid i'm absolutely addicted to driving accident videos. I think it's because there's the sense that seeing them will make you better at not making the same mistakes
Suggesting people have basic situational awareness is not victim blaming.
Edit: Oh, and suggesting that this kind of thing is unthinkable outside of the United States is particularly laughable considering we all just watched it happen in Scotland.
Look, yeah, it's not the victim's fault he was assaulted, of course not. You should be focusing on the comments that are saying a variation of "Well, he shouldn't have been in the guy's way, then." Now that is victim blaming.
All's this guy said was if some dude comes up on you that hot, it's in your own best interest to take action to defend yourself or flee. Once you are accosted in an aggressive manner like that, it's no longer about assigning blame. You are already a victim of assault. It's not your fault. But the only remaining questions is: which category of victim do you want to be? The one that got a scare from a bully and that's not cool, or the kind that needs a fucking physical therapist teach you to fucking walk again?
"Basic situational awareness" my ass. Driver went from 0 to 100. Cyclist basically got sucker punched. Driver could have grabbed the bike to move it, or backed up his car a little, or any other number of things besides crash out. Guy is a danger to society and needs to be in jail.
It's clear who the victim is. That being said, nothing is worth brain damage and permanent partial paralysis. There are crazy people out there. Always try to deescalate. Sometimes it's just better to let the idiot have his way.
That clearly didn't come out of nowhere. They were already arguing for some amount of time. I'd appreciate more context of what lead to that before I make any judgement.
Not to blame him. To understand why. Attacks like that don't just happen in a vacuum.
Why were they stopped in the middle of the road? How long had they been arguing? What we're they arguing about? Did they know each other prior to this encounter? Should there also be traffic tickets, in addition to the criminal charges? We know literally nothing about the event. Why is everyone satisfied with ignorance?
Right, they happen when entitled motor vehicle drivers feel disrespected. The cyclist may have even done something stupid beforehand that put everyone in that car in danger.
But it almost certainly doesn't matter, because there is almost nothing that cyclist could have possibly done that would justify the violence in that video.
I'd say there's absolutely no justification. Even if the cyclist killed the man's wife first, it wouldn't justify it. But it would make it understandable.
As it is there's no way to understand what happened. And everyone seems content assuming they do.
A Scottish motorist left a cyclist with a serious brain injury following a violent road rage incident in Edinburgh. Joseph Hedley became involved in a confrontation with cyclist Iain Brown before violently attacking the man without provocation at the city’s Cowgate in September 2024.
I wouldn't assume at all. That's what everyone else is doing.
And the "without provocation" is almost certainly wrong. People don't act like that without some internal reason. Better phrasing would be "without any known provocation".
With the various responses, I get the impression that people assume any known reason would be a justification. As if reason itself is a justification. Of course that's not true at all.
We know enough to know that nothing justifies that kind of response.
Honestly, I too would like to see the events leading up to it, but I accept that's unlikely to happen. In my view, as soon as a driver gets out of their car to do anything except exchange details after a crash, they've lost any moral high ground regardless, if they had any in the first place.
The article isn't wrong. It never states any reason. It never makes an assumption beyond saying it was unprovoked. The article is quite factual realy.
It's everyone else here who's assuming the man's state of mind, motivation, and sanity even. I'm not assuming you all are wrong. But I'm also not assuming any of you are right. Because the article has no information about your judgments.
What context could possibly make it ok for the ecocidal narcissist to assault the cyclist?
You don't need any more context than what's in the video to know that this shitbag need the dildo of consequences to arrive unlubed and covered in sandpaper.
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susieq0044@sh.itjust.works · 62 pts · 1d
Jail time! I hope the cyclist is OK, that looks like brain trauma.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 33 pts · 21h
They were severely, permanently injured, and the violent idiot had been charged.
susieq0044@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 20h
Source?
SMillerNL@piefed.social · 11 pts · 19h
In the linked article
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17h
Look at the bicyclist laying unconscious on the road in front of the car. There's your source.
jtrek@startrek.website · 16 pts · 21h
The assailant should have their life ruined. Certainly lose their car and license.
The other person who just watched and walked away should suffer, too.
susieq0044@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 21h
The karma of these people is far below zero. They don’t know it, but they constantly punish themselves. (This doesn’t mean the judiciary shouldn’t help them find enlightenment 😉)
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social · 53 pts · 21h
There's no reason why this person should ever be allowed to drive again.
arak@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 19h
Or walk really.. Put the criminal behind bars
VibeSurgeon@piefed.social · 8 pts · 19h
I'm fine with them being a pedestrian after having served their time.
The ban on driving does not have to end, though. It can be permanent.
arak@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 18h
Bruh he was a temporary pedestrian when he grabbed the cyclist by the neck and threw him onto the road.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 18h
So he's only violent when he's a pedestrian?
arak@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 18h
Yeah seems so, bicyclist was unharmed when he was in his car
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 13h
And he's only on his learner's licence.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 1d
Number Plate: SK74 UHL
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SUV
DVLA data · 9/24/2026
Year:2024
Fuel:PETROL
Engine:1496 cc
Colour:WHITE
Body:SUV
Length:4.57 m
Weight:1,550 kg
Kind_to_Everyone@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 9h
Well, by reading the article I learned he was arrested years ago. I'm not certain we need to hunt him down.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h
Hunt him down! Hunt him down!
Once online always online!
Hunt him down!
Once online always online!
I've already dispatched my Internet armies and bots, the assassination has already taken place.
Once online always online!
grue@lemmy.world MOD · 40 pts · 22h
OP, we received a report on this post asking that it be tagged with a warning for violence. Could you do so
(or mark it NSFW), please?Zombie@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 15h
NSFW seems extreme. It's violence, but not unsafe for work. There's no blood or gore. We only truly know there's harm done due to news reports. Marking it NSFW would mean the largest UK Lemmy instance would then not be able to see this UK content because of our stupid internet laws.
A violence tag would make sense though.
grue@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 15h
Thanks, I wasn't aware of that implication.
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 32 pts · 1d
What the fuck.
Any follow up on this?
Bademantel@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 22h
Source: https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/man-grabbed-edinburgh-cyclist-neck-34655622
Eq0@literature.cafe · 31 pts · 22h
Shit, that’s a really bad outcome for the cyclist! Poor dude
jnod4@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 22h
Mate of mine died like that. Skull is very thin at the back of the head
Eq0@literature.cafe · 15 pts · 22h
Hits on the head are a roll of the dice: nothing, concussions, death are all options…
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16h
Don't forget contusions the biker got a contusion.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h
I got a super bad concussion when I fell and hit the back of my head on some concrete a while back. It took nearly three weeks for my symptoms to go away. I got really lucky I didn't get anything more serious. We were concerned that I permanently damaged my occipital lobe because my visual issues were not improving. Thankfully I got better, but goddamn. I can't imagine a brain injury as severe as that guy's. It's terrifying.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 26 pts · 21h
"Permanent impairment" from a violent assault, huh? What's a good punishment for that?
That cyclist will be affected for his entire life. I feel like the assailant should also be affected for his entire life.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 9 pts · 19h
I hope Joseph pays all of Iain's medical bills and living costs for the rest of his life.
zwerg@feddit.org · 13 pts · 18h
This is the UK, there aren't any medical bills. He should and likely will be made to lay for loss of earnings and any additional support he might need.
vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 2 pts · 12h
Are you sure? French social security makes any responsible third party pay for everything, and insurance doesn't usually cover crimes.
zwerg@feddit.org · 1 pts · 4h
Most people don't have any insurance to cover this precisely because the NHS will always pick up the bill. I've never heard of any criminal getting a bill for medical charges they've caused. Here in Germany, its all personal insurance - albeit strictly regulated. Maybe that's how it works in France?
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 1d
American here. I ride with a gun. Seriously.
I fucking hate it, but people like this are everywhere and nobody's helping a cyclist.
susieq0044@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1d
Actually, Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I’m from Texas. I once witnessed a guy who took a lady cyclist right of way, nothing much you may say, but I got my gun out and shot a hole in the car’s motor the size of a bowling ball. An eye for an eye, thought him a lesson I tell you. Alas, this altercation was witnessed by the police, and I was arrested for aggravated assault. Seems the female cyclist didn’t have the right of way after all. I write these lines from prison, but I would still vote for Trump in the next election.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 23h
Then everyone clapped.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 21h
They're trying to dunk on the first comment, and you're trying to dunk on them...
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 22h
Ah, you see, the problem was that it was a white car you shot
justlemmyin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23h
You guys waiting for an election?
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 14h
Hilarious.
My decision to ride armed was finalized after being followed for 5+ miles by a jeep full of large dudes yelling physical threats at me for riding a bicycle.
I had to hide under a bridge until they got tired of looking for me. Lovely story though.
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 20h
y'all downvoters need to read between the lines
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 8h
Either they're and asshole or... they're an asshole. What's your point?
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 7h
It's satire. And it made me laugh because it was done so well.
jade52@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 21h
Genuinely can't tell if this is satire or not
susieq0044@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 20h
Yes, I’m particularly pleased with this one. Especially the out of context mention of Trump 😝
SlacksMcTavish@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 1d
And if that driver also rode with a gun?
Valthorn@feddit.nu · 24 pts · 1d
Then you get your gun a gun, I think. I don't know, I'm European.
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 14h
We call that a side-gun
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 8h
They'd back off, because people who use their cars to bully cyclists are extreme pussies. They only harass others when they think the other side is powerless
vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 1 pts · 12h
Understand the sentiment. I only ride on the little reserved infrastructure there is or on quiet roads. Motor vehicles still use the cycle path anyway, bicycle jousting seems like a solution when you get passed by an idiot on an electric scooter going 80 kph on a narrow path.
Zagorath@quokk.au · 11 pts · 19h
That man needs to go to gaol, and when he gets out he needs to never be allowed behind the wheel of a car again.
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 17h
If you see someone who is bigger than you get out of their car, while you are already in a heated exchange, have some self-preservation in you to be able to react in a way that this mentally unwell piece of shit can't just grab you by the neck and slam you down. Get ready to fight, or please just leave the scene as quickly and safely as you can.
I don't blame the biker. All around the world "people" are becoming more and more like animals. Acknowledge this, and prepare yourself for anything these animals might do. :-/
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 23h
I'm afraid i'm absolutely addicted to driving accident videos. I think it's because there's the sense that seeing them will make you better at not making the same mistakes
EDIT: This was not one such driving video :(
strop@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 22h
Cars are fascist to their core
Mihies@programming.dev · 5 pts · 23h
That's why cyclists are supposed to wear helmets 🥺
stevles@aussie.zone · 28 pts · 23h
Because some roid rage cunt will try to kill you the moment you stop?
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 13 pts · 23h
Yes
stevles@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 23h
Fair enough.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 4 pts · 17h
Like the other guy said, yes, but usually, they'll try to murder you with their car. This video showed an unusual murder attempt for a motorist.
AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 22h
strop@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 22h
You also should consider not waiting for a likely attacker to attack you. You attack first or flee
personalhel@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 21h
only americans would even begin to think this could happen. stop victim blaming.
Octavio@piefed.social · 7 pts · 20h
Suggesting people have basic situational awareness is not victim blaming.
Edit: Oh, and suggesting that this kind of thing is unthinkable outside of the United States is particularly laughable considering we all just watched it happen in Scotland.
Look, yeah, it's not the victim's fault he was assaulted, of course not. You should be focusing on the comments that are saying a variation of "Well, he shouldn't have been in the guy's way, then." Now that is victim blaming.
All's this guy said was if some dude comes up on you that hot, it's in your own best interest to take action to defend yourself or flee. Once you are accosted in an aggressive manner like that, it's no longer about assigning blame. You are already a victim of assault. It's not your fault. But the only remaining questions is: which category of victim do you want to be? The one that got a scare from a bully and that's not cool, or the kind that needs a fucking physical therapist teach you to fucking walk again?
antbricks@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 19h
"Basic situational awareness" my ass. Driver went from 0 to 100. Cyclist basically got sucker punched. Driver could have grabbed the bike to move it, or backed up his car a little, or any other number of things besides crash out. Guy is a danger to society and needs to be in jail.
Octavio@piefed.social · 1 pts · 17h
100% the guy is a danger to society and needs to be in jail. I never suggested anything different.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 5 pts · 19h
It's clear who the victim is. That being said, nothing is worth brain damage and permanent partial paralysis. There are crazy people out there. Always try to deescalate. Sometimes it's just better to let the idiot have his way.
Steve@communick.news · -25 pts · 21h
That clearly didn't come out of nowhere. They were already arguing for some amount of time. I'd appreciate more context of what lead to that before I make any judgement.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 20h
Yeah, man. We gotta find if the victim is to blame, here.
/s
What the hell, man?
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 20h
look at this fucking cyclist violently standing still there listening the women screams!!!
I'm sure he ran a red light once! Also the poor people stand no chance against this heavy bicycle
Steve@communick.news · -5 pts · 19h
Not to blame him. To understand why. Attacks like that don't just happen in a vacuum.
Why were they stopped in the middle of the road? How long had they been arguing? What we're they arguing about? Did they know each other prior to this encounter? Should there also be traffic tickets, in addition to the criminal charges? We know literally nothing about the event. Why is everyone satisfied with ignorance?
pieberry@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 18h
Right, they happen when entitled motor vehicle drivers feel disrespected. The cyclist may have even done something stupid beforehand that put everyone in that car in danger.
But it almost certainly doesn't matter, because there is almost nothing that cyclist could have possibly done that would justify the violence in that video.
I think that's why no one here seems to care.
Steve@communick.news · -6 pts · 17h
I'd say there's absolutely no justification. Even if the cyclist killed the man's wife first, it wouldn't justify it. But it would make it understandable.
As it is there's no way to understand what happened. And everyone seems content assuming they do.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 8h
Uh, no. That's a load of horseshit.
Steve@communick.news · 0 pts · 7h
Revenge is horseshit.
It's literally just "I hurt them because they made me feel bad". That's never a justification.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 8h
To cyclists, they really do just happen in a vacuum. I've been fortunate to only get heckles and honks in my area while riding
Steve@communick.news · 1 pts · 7h
Not to the people doing the attacking, they don't
brrt@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 19h
Zagorath@quokk.au · 8 pts · 19h
Piss off you absolute bell-end
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 19h
There's an article, and it's as I expected:
Why would you assume anything different?
Steve@communick.news · -4 pts · 17h
I wouldn't assume at all. That's what everyone else is doing.
And the "without provocation" is almost certainly wrong. People don't act like that without some internal reason. Better phrasing would be "without any known provocation".
With the various responses, I get the impression that people assume any known reason would be a justification. As if reason itself is a justification. Of course that's not true at all.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 13h
I don't know if you've done much cycling on public roads, but your mere existence is enough 'provocation' for some of these nutjobs.
Steve@communick.news · -1 pts · 12h
I have. It's a part of why I stopped almost 20 years ago.
But still that's just guessing. We don't know much of anything that happened here.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 12h
We know enough to know that nothing justifies that kind of response.
Honestly, I too would like to see the events leading up to it, but I accept that's unlikely to happen. In my view, as soon as a driver gets out of their car to do anything except exchange details after a crash, they've lost any moral high ground regardless, if they had any in the first place.
Steve@communick.news · -1 pts · 10h
Of course not. Nothing would justify it. But explain it? Sure. Maybe there was an understandable reason for it, beyond bad impulse.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 7h
No.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 17h
You're absolutely assuming, because you assume the article is wrong to make up your own interpretation of events.
Sometimes motorists are just jackasses that want to hurt cyclists. That's a real thing that happens.
Steve@communick.news · -3 pts · 17h
The article isn't wrong. It never states any reason. It never makes an assumption beyond saying it was unprovoked. The article is quite factual realy.
It's everyone else here who's assuming the man's state of mind, motivation, and sanity even. I'm not assuming you all are wrong. But I'm also not assuming any of you are right. Because the article has no information about your judgments.
DudleyMason@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 17h
What context could possibly make it ok for the ecocidal narcissist to assault the cyclist?
You don't need any more context than what's in the video to know that this shitbag need the dildo of consequences to arrive unlubed and covered in sandpaper.
Steve@communick.news · -3 pts · 17h
No context would make it okay. If the cyclist was a mass murderer who killed the man's entire home town, it still wouldn't be okay.
But while we can acknowledge it's bad no matter what, we also might be able to understand his reaction reaction.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 8h
Just shut the fuck up. Quit saying dumb shit like this
Steve@communick.news · 0 pts · 7h
It's just true. The vindictive mindset is a primordial cognitive disease.