This happened to a girl I knew that tried to make some money on onlyfans during Covid lockdown. Only lasted 4 months, even though she was pretty attractive. I think guys just assume that as a girl, you can simply post nudes online and make money, while it actually does require consistent effort, marketing skills, and a bit of luck.
Managed my friends only fans for a bit, we got her account to top 4.5%. She brought in ~$1.5K on a good month. One time we got up to $2K. This is with her having done porn with a few big studios and having a decent amount of followers on Twitter. There is no Discovery feature or feed on OF, you have to direct them there through a direct link. Had to keep a consistent production schedule, deal with inquires from patrons. Successfully running and only fans is like running a business, people don't simply give you money.
There's a bit on the Netflix Pornhub documentary from a camgirl. She notes that she does her own marketing, lighting, camera work, etc., and every once in a while, she masturbates on camera. It's a real job with real effort.
Yeah, you can see this for yourself if you have a VR headset and a couple of sites have VR cams set up.
Mostly they forget they exist (although I'm grateful for the ones that don't), so you get a kind of behind the scenes look at it all.
The one thing that strikes me is their demeanour the instant they're off the main cam. These girls are so fucking done with everything and everyone, and it's not surprising most of them quit after a month or two. Most of them are probably getting a fraction of the money tipped, with a good chunk going to the handlers (a lot of pretend typing going on, and they get directed by the person at the keyboard) and room rent (much of it seems to be in the same handful of buildings somewhere in St Petersburg). Many of them are on multiple sites at once, with phone apps on the go as well.
Damn I remember this post from when I was on 4chan still. OP did provide links and his story was 100% true.
The girl wasn't ugly, just kinda plain but almost every pic of her somehow exuded despair, and that was honestly offputting (except for the kind of creeps who get off on that I reckon).
Apparently the woman from the greentext was known as “plastixfangs” online. She deleted a significant amount of her content, but random porn sites still have some of her posts. For example, https://pornpics.click/@plastixfangs (NSFW)
Frankly, I’m glad she was spared the trouble. I can’t imagine they’d be able to offer words of encouragement without seeming intensely parasocial. A generic “you’re hot” wouldn’t have amounted to much. It doesn’t seem like there’s a correct answer, besides finding her irl, flashing her unlocked onlyfans, and begging for her socks
A generic “you’re hot” wouldn’t have amounted to much.
I was reading the debate at Lemmy NSFW about downvotes. There was a comment made by one of the content creators about lack of meaningful comments were kind of demoralizing. I try to give genuine compliments cause it's not easy putting nude photos of yourself to the internet. The internet can be brutal place out there.
Meaning upvotes and bland comments are nice however they don't replace genuine human interactions that we all seek.
There are a lot of people whod appreciate her features so its surprising she didnt get any attention. Maybe anon made up the story and is actually into men?
Lil tiddy supermarket goth girl sounds cute tbh, or maybe I just have a type.
Anyway, girls like this can be a real gem to find if you're a gooner. Their small fan base means if you're not a creep there's a chance of genuine interaction. She'll probably take request and if she likes you might even send you free content.
Hence all the ifs. But hey, the competition isn't fierce! Put the slightest effort into being self-aware, respectful, and charming and you can easily get her attention.
People's views are so skewed by social media numbers. If 10 people came up to you in one day and complemented you, it would probably be the best day of your life...
It's like people complaining that Lemmy groups only have, using this group as an example, 3.1k users/day and are therefore not worth participating in (these are Reddit arguments, but still).
Somehow people have developed this intuition that unless you have literally millions of interactions then you're practically invisible. If you were hanging out at a park with 3,100 people you wouldn't say that it was a small group, but on the Internet this is seen as a tiny number of people, hardly worth mentioning.
Lemmy groups only have, using this group as an example, 3.1k users/day
That still means this platform is clearly not anywhere near challenging the big ones, and therefore not really having a big impact on improving the internet the way I want it to. I am especially annoyed by the idiots who want to keep Lemmy small.
On a personal level, 10 is a small crowd and three thousand is a lot of people. But when talking about platforms and impact, it's not much at all.
I know it's probably fake, but I low key think this is the experience of most women, online or not. Men like to think women can just ring a bell and get dick and companionship, judging off of, like, the cream of the crop of women and their (apparent) track record. It's not always that easy, especially if you aren't attractive. A lot of men don't fuck for personality.
Obligatory not all men, yes there are shallow women, and yes it is also hard for men to find partners, and yes they have their own struggles and pressures that make their struggle unique to them.
Yeah my husband seems to think onlyfans is easy money, like I could just post a nude and money would come rolling in magically, talks about how much big earners are making on YouTube too, but hustling like that is so much harder than having a job, you have to be organized and ambitious and then for every one person making thousands, there are many thousands of people making pennies.
Not without a sob-story from the girl. Doubt she did it for the money. Someone with the time and commitment to doing this(if not energy or enthusiam) she demonstrated would make better money doing just about anything else.
I mean, I said "if not ... enthusiasm" because the only evidence of enthusiasm I've seen is the reported volume of her content. The link I followed from a comment here was lacking in quantity, and her pics exuded apathy.
That said, you seem to be assuming she wouldn't have a day-job or any will to survive, and stating it like common knowlege or even wisdom. I'm not here to correct you, but only because I can't be bothered. Just ... damn. Whatever you say.
It is a rule of thumb in businesses that 80% fail within 5 years. It is the same with anything who are looking for fame and success; only 20% succeed. And even within those 20%, only like 10% are considered in the A-list.
Anyhow, I am curious why this girl felt the need to expose herself. Is it for money? Does she feel insecure and needs validation? Or both?
I see this quite often on the other side of reddit. It's quite sad. On that side of reddit, where no one shows their face, except occasionals who either leave generic "sexy 😍" comments or entitled requests, no one acknowledges you for trying.
Every time I see some woman praising sex work and/or calling it feminist, I am reminded of the 10 other girls who who_red away their dignity for absolutely nothing
And we can start by no longer implying that the work is somehow undignified. This applies to OP as well as GP.
Sex workers shouldn't have to wait for the revolution to find respect. Maybe there wouldn't be sex workers after the revolution, but I certainly hope it results in a society where people are freer to express their sexuality in safe and consensual ways.
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turkalino@lemmy.yachts · 237 pts · 1y
This happened to a girl I knew that tried to make some money on onlyfans during Covid lockdown. Only lasted 4 months, even though she was pretty attractive. I think guys just assume that as a girl, you can simply post nudes online and make money, while it actually does require consistent effort, marketing skills, and a bit of luck.
morrowind@lemmy.ml · 181 pts · 1y
on onlyfans, like most platforms, the vast majority of people make little to nothing
MataVatnik@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 1y
Managed my friends only fans for a bit, we got her account to top 4.5%. She brought in ~$1.5K on a good month. One time we got up to $2K. This is with her having done porn with a few big studios and having a decent amount of followers on Twitter. There is no Discovery feature or feed on OF, you have to direct them there through a direct link. Had to keep a consistent production schedule, deal with inquires from patrons. Successfully running and only fans is like running a business, people don't simply give you money.
vaionko@sopuli.xyz · 39 pts · 1y
That comes as a surprise for many people
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · -18 pts · 1y
Yeah, people think it’s easy to defraud Social Security. It’s hard pretending that I was born over 150 years ago.
Shit, all the work I had to maintain that fraud. Fuck me, it was tough.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 1y
Shut up Elon, we know it is you
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 1y
Look, just cause I've cooked my brain with ketamine, use children as human shields, and an incompetent asshole.....does mean I'm Elon.
Fuck. My life sucks.
Lemmynated@lemmy.zip · 61 pts · 1y
I imagine it’s as easy to make money off of as YouTube or Twtich, almost impossible.
frezik@midwest.social · 42 pts · 1y
There's a bit on the Netflix Pornhub documentary from a camgirl. She notes that she does her own marketing, lighting, camera work, etc., and every once in a while, she masturbates on camera. It's a real job with real effort.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 34 pts · 1y
It's like sex work is work.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 1y
The only people who think sex work isn't work are terrible at sex.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
And probably terrible at work.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Yes, but most of sex work is a sales job
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 22 pts · 1y
Yeah, you can see this for yourself if you have a VR headset and a couple of sites have VR cams set up.
Mostly they forget they exist (although I'm grateful for the ones that don't), so you get a kind of behind the scenes look at it all.
The one thing that strikes me is their demeanour the instant they're off the main cam. These girls are so fucking done with everything and everyone, and it's not surprising most of them quit after a month or two. Most of them are probably getting a fraction of the money tipped, with a good chunk going to the handlers (a lot of pretend typing going on, and they get directed by the person at the keyboard) and room rent (much of it seems to be in the same handful of buildings somewhere in St Petersburg). Many of them are on multiple sites at once, with phone apps on the go as well.
It's a real business.
RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 1y
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 24 pts · 1y
My cousin dropped out of university after a few months, and wanted to be a pro gaming streamer instead.
Oddly enough he never did achieve that, and now mostly sits around his parent's house doing quite a lot of being depressed.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 1y
Damn I remember this post from when I was on 4chan still. OP did provide links and his story was 100% true. The girl wasn't ugly, just kinda plain but almost every pic of her somehow exuded despair, and that was honestly offputting (except for the kind of creeps who get off on that I reckon).
TheBat@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
asqapro@reddthat.com · 59 pts · 1y
Apparently the woman from the greentext was known as “plastixfangs” online. She deleted a significant amount of her content, but random porn sites still have some of her posts. For example, https://pornpics.click/@plastixfangs (NSFW)
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 34 pts · 1y
Yeah, I can see why tbh.
Every shot just lacks enthusiasm, and just screams "I thought this would be easy".
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 1y
Also, the photos look like they were taken on a phone, quite a few years ago now, and with not the best lighting.
TheBat@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1y
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1y
Yeah, the rare "OP delivers" moment. Savor it, you'll probably never see it again.
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
Once in a lifetime.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee · 26 pts · 1y
I can see it, she's certainly not ugly, but not attractive enough to stand out from the crowd either.
And I don't think she's particularly good at taking photos of herself, either.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
Yup, that's the one.
DudeDudenson@lemmings.world · 108 pts · 1y
Sounds like anon could had made her day by just talking to her
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 178 pts · 1y
Frankly, I’m glad she was spared the trouble. I can’t imagine they’d be able to offer words of encouragement without seeming intensely parasocial. A generic “you’re hot” wouldn’t have amounted to much. It doesn’t seem like there’s a correct answer, besides finding her irl, flashing her unlocked onlyfans, and begging for her socks
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 1y
Your post ended in a way I was not expecting.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 1y
I think this is the Hallmark original romcom I need in my life.
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 1y
!Remindme in 20y
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Don’t you dare bring that bot back.
Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 1y
Great advice right here
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 4 pts · 1y
I was reading the debate at Lemmy NSFW about downvotes. There was a comment made by one of the content creators about lack of meaningful comments were kind of demoralizing. I try to give genuine compliments cause it's not easy putting nude photos of yourself to the internet. The internet can be brutal place out there.
Meaning upvotes and bland comments are nice however they don't replace genuine human interactions that we all seek.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
That’s interesting, I just assumed 95% of the posts in nsfw communities were from management firms and collectors.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1y
Maybe it's for the best he didnt...
Mac@mander.xyz · 86 pts · 1y
Anon experiences empathy for once in their miserable life.
One of the few legit greentexts. lol
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 84 pts · 1y
There are a lot of people whod appreciate her features so its surprising she didnt get any attention. Maybe anon made up the story and is actually into men?
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 41 pts · 1y
Lies? On the internet? Impossible!
arin@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 1y
Nope anon is the girl trying to get your attention
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 1y
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
fake and into men
1SimpleTailor@startrek.website · 61 pts · 1y
Lil tiddy supermarket goth girl sounds cute tbh, or maybe I just have a type.
Anyway, girls like this can be a real gem to find if you're a gooner. Their small fan base means if you're not a creep there's a chance of genuine interaction. She'll probably take request and if she likes you might even send you free content.
exasperation@lemm.ee · 89 pts · 1y
Good luck with that Venn diagram.
1SimpleTailor@startrek.website · 17 pts · 1y
Hence all the ifs. But hey, the competition isn't fierce! Put the slightest effort into being self-aware, respectful, and charming and you can easily get her attention.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 1y
There's a whole ... sliver of us! I may not even be speaking of the royal "we"!
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 1y
Would two circles on top of each other, but offset by 2 micrometers still count as a Venn diagram?
earphone843@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
You mean singular circle?
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
Not just one. Two of them!
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 1y
Obviously quite the opposite, I'd say.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 59 pts · 1y
I know that girl's pain. I, too, want to be a massive whore but nobody wants me. 😔
death_to_carrots@feddit.org · 29 pts · 1y
Don't be the whore the world wants, but the world deserves.
pyrflie@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
You can be my whore.
shortrounddev@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 1y
ChexMax@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 1y
Right, but aren't those girls in it for the attention? The thrill? Sounds like she's not getting any attention, either.
Comment105@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 1y
There's a difference between none and some.
She gets some attention, not much, but some.
We call it nothing at all, even if it's not nothing. It's obvious why we do it, it's the absence of respect. But we are technically wrong.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 1y
People's views are so skewed by social media numbers. If 10 people came up to you in one day and complemented you, it would probably be the best day of your life...
It's like people complaining that Lemmy groups only have, using this group as an example, 3.1k users/day and are therefore not worth participating in (these are Reddit arguments, but still).
Somehow people have developed this intuition that unless you have literally millions of interactions then you're practically invisible. If you were hanging out at a park with 3,100 people you wouldn't say that it was a small group, but on the Internet this is seen as a tiny number of people, hardly worth mentioning.
Comment105@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 1y
While we agree, I want to clarify this:
That still means this platform is clearly not anywhere near challenging the big ones, and therefore not really having a big impact on improving the internet the way I want it to. I am especially annoyed by the idiots who want to keep Lemmy small.
On a personal level, 10 is a small crowd and three thousand is a lot of people. But when talking about platforms and impact, it's not much at all.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 1y
And it wasn't the grinches heart that grew three sizes that day...
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 1y
Those girls don't have onlyfans.
shortrounddev@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
2ugly2live@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 1y
I know it's probably fake, but I low key think this is the experience of most women, online or not. Men like to think women can just ring a bell and get dick and companionship, judging off of, like, the cream of the crop of women and their (apparent) track record. It's not always that easy, especially if you aren't attractive. A lot of men don't fuck for personality.
Obligatory not all men, yes there are shallow women, and yes it is also hard for men to find partners, and yes they have their own struggles and pressures that make their struggle unique to them.Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee · 29 pts · 1y
I mean, they probably could, but what's available to them isn't exactly the cream of the crop either.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 1y
I imagine it's similar to the gay male experience - I could get a hookup any time of day easily, but the guys aren't relationship material.
2ugly2live@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
Two sides of the fence reaching for the same cream. 😔
RBWells@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 1y
Yeah my husband seems to think onlyfans is easy money, like I could just post a nude and money would come rolling in magically, talks about how much big earners are making on YouTube too, but hustling like that is so much harder than having a job, you have to be organized and ambitious and then for every one person making thousands, there are many thousands of people making pennies.
It's so much easier to just have a job.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
I've dated pic sellers, and yeah you've summed it up. Sex work is work, and it's mostly a sales job
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1y
And more lucrative on average.
cryptiod137@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
IIRC the average creator on OF makes less than a dollar a month
shalafi@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 1y
Can a brother get a link?
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 99 pts · 1y
here you go
Clearwater@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1y
I don't know you but I fucking love you.
0ops@lemm.ee · 19 pts · 1y
I don't know you but I fucking hate you
GeneralDingus@lemmy.cafe · 15 pts · 1y
I don't know you...
metaStatic@kbin.earth · 14 pts · 1y
THAT'S MY PURSE
starchylemming@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
that one has quite the substantial fanbase of this sort so this is far from applicable
match@pawb.social · 2 pts · 1y
yeah, where is the r/linkiscute equivalent
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1y
Twink, my beloved 🥰🥰
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 1y
https://dotfic.com/zDyk
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network · 8 pts · 1y
You really needed a URL shortener, didn't you, you devil?
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
RogueBanana@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1y
I like thunder :)
sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1y
Sure!
GaMEChld@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 1y
Know your worth and know where you are valued.
This can sound really deep, but it works for shallow too. I'm sorry girl, but the whore market is saturated and very competitive.
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee · 49 pts · 1y
Yeah, she really should wait until OP's mom retires.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
That might be a while.
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Where do I get my hands on the "aimless schlub" bluebook?
Honytawk@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 1y
The funny thing is that if this greentext linked this girl OnlyFans, she would gain tons of views just out of pity.
Some of these would even stick around afterwards.
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
Nah, the post would be removed and OP would get a temp ban (or whoever posted the link).
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 33 pts · 1y
Imagine equating selling of ones dignity to selling ones pics.
Top Victorian mind, after the morphine clears.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y
Someone linked what they think was the person in a comment, at best they went to a lot of effort for very little in return.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 1y
This is a topic for a community like laststagecapitalism or similar.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1y
Not without a sob-story from the girl. Doubt she did it for the money. Someone with the time and commitment to doing this(if not energy or enthusiam) she demonstrated would make better money doing just about anything else.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
Or she was doing drugs, therefore the enthusiasm. Energy fades. Now she is homeless. Or dead.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 1y
I mean, I said "if not ... enthusiasm" because the only evidence of enthusiasm I've seen is the reported volume of her content. The link I followed from a comment here was lacking in quantity, and her pics exuded apathy.
That said, you seem to be assuming she wouldn't have a day-job or any will to survive, and stating it like common knowlege or even wisdom. I'm not here to correct you, but only because I can't be bothered. Just ... damn. Whatever you say.
dick_fineman@discuss.online · 22 pts · 1y
...this kind of hurt my heart.
TheCitCatPhone@lemmynsfw.com · 18 pts · 1y
That sounds like my type, have you got a link you can dm me?
Hiyo@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 1y
Ah, another classic case of the wild goonette lost in cyberspace which has yet to be found. In due time.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
It is a rule of thumb in businesses that 80% fail within 5 years. It is the same with anything who are looking for fame and success; only 20% succeed. And even within those 20%, only like 10% are considered in the A-list.
Anyhow, I am curious why this girl felt the need to expose herself. Is it for money? Does she feel insecure and needs validation? Or both?
match@pawb.social · 6 pts · 1y
the incel mind cannot fathom a woman doing a thing for her own enjoyment
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
Genuine question, are there people out there who would do this for fun? Because it sounds like a lot of work to me.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1y
I'd say it was more common in the past, and then a lot of them realised they can do it for money. Same with youtube.
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 1y
They exist, and they would terrify you. Yes, even the attractive ones. Especially the attractive ones.
Sorgan71@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
If 1 man 1 jaring myself made good money I'd do it.
JayObey711@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -12 pts · 1y
Misogyny is very popular on Lemmy. Racism usually too as long as it's coded.
Heyting@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 1y
Yeah I’m not surprised but I am disgusted by the misogyny of this post and the comments.
morrowind@lemmy.ml · -18 pts · 1y
I see this quite often on the other side of reddit. It's quite sad. On that side of reddit, where no one shows their face, except occasionals who either leave generic "sexy 😍" comments or entitled requests, no one acknowledges you for trying.
Every time I see some woman praising sex work and/or calling it feminist, I am reminded of the 10 other girls who who_red away their dignity for absolutely nothing
Genius@lemmy.zip · 59 pts · 1y
Sex work isn't often feminist, but sex workers still deserve respect. They deserve to be included in the feminist movement.
frezik@midwest.social · 19 pts · 1y
And we can start by no longer implying that the work is somehow undignified. This applies to OP as well as GP.
Sex workers shouldn't have to wait for the revolution to find respect. Maybe there wouldn't be sex workers after the revolution, but I certainly hope it results in a society where people are freer to express their sexuality in safe and consensual ways.
MataVatnik@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 1y
🚩🚩🚩🚩
Surprised that comment has this many upvotes
Takios@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 1y
it's a common criticism on reddit that the nsfw subs are just becomijg advertsfor OF so I'm not surprised they dont get much interaction
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Becoming? It's been that way for a very long time.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 1y
That's what you get when you post on Reddit. Lemmy users appreciate everyone (becaude the communities are almost dead).