Why would trump be mad? This proves that we're living in an atmosphere where he can do whatever he wants, and only a massive response can do anything to stop him.
This means that while he won't get away with censoring Kimmel, he will get away with censoring many, many others that do not have the support Kimmel has.
It proves his power isn't absolute, so I can see him requiring a huge dose of
(Although, according to RFK Jr and his voice that ressembles a garbage disposal and his face that looks like a microwaved Mel Gibson, that could cause autism).
I don't watch ABC --- though I'll occasionally look at their website --- but I do care. I think that it's a positive not to have Kimmel kicked off over this.
here’s the rub - he was kicked off and you cannot unring that bell. he was restored sure. but both actions are for two very big reasons. the former because of an alliance with fascism and the latter because of an alliance toward profit.
It's not Disney's fault, really. It's Sinclair and Nexstar, the affiliate networks. They're the ones that could have pushed back without drastic financial consequences, and they're the ones that pressured ABC to can the show.
Disney management has a fiduciary responsibility they cannot ignore. They handled this as well as they could (and likely raised hell behind closed doors).
Put your ire where it belongs: the fascists and their supporters, not the businesses trying to survive this hellscape without breaking laws
There are LOTS of reasons to hate Disney and their management but this isn't one of them IMO
I'm so sick of this braindead god-damned cop out. A fascist authoritarian has seized power. If your FiDuCiArY rEsPoNsIbIlItY necessitates absconding moral and ethical responsibilities, let the stupid company burn. Sacrifices must be made to achieve and maintain self governance.
I mean, I personally agree with the sentiment, but I'm not naive enough to think that's the argument we should be having right now. We can tackle "should businesses be expected to self-immolate for the sake of morality" once the fascists are fucking gone.
Like, they did exactly what they were supposed to do here and managed the fucking crisis then got him back on the air ASAP. But people are pissed at Disney for playing the fucking game instead of at Sinclair and Nexstar, because Disney is a more visible target. It's myopic and pointless.
Huh? What are you talking about? Sinclair and Nexstar are not in any way beholden to Disney. They are affiliate networks. They are not in any way a part of Disney or operating under their guidance
Disney management has a fiduciary responsibility they cannot ignore.
Sorry, but this is a complete misunderstanding of how this works.
Recognizing that pulling Kimmel's show would result in severe harm to the brand, short term and long term, matches that responsibility as well. Shareholders can even make the decision to claim the board (and specifically Iger) were in violation of their duties with this decision. The blowback was obvious and expected.
There has literally never been a case where defending free speech or any other ethical/moral position in the face of imminent business contract impact has successfully been used to defend against a breach of fiduciary responsibility claim.
You are talking about an imminent threat of action from extremely powerful business partners vs a nebulous argument towards the impact of moral decision making on profitability. Quite the contrary, there is a huge body of evidence that shows behaving immorally is often the most profitable behavior.
Brand damage from taking a show off the air for a week is far easier to undo than the fallout from two major affiliates cancelling their contracts for your entire network.
Sorry, I know what point you're trying to make, and you are theoretically correct but because it's completely unprovable with no precedent you are practically incorrect.
vs a nebulous argument towards the impact of moral decision making on profitability.
No, its that vs the clearly expected consumer response, which has a permanent brand impact and a short term subscriber/vacationer/etc impact, not to mention the 2% drop in stocks (an over $4b impact).
Ignoring ethics, this was a bad business decision. The long term impact is obviously not yet known, but the short term impact was rapid and strong.
It's not a zero sum game. Once the FCC chair did what he did and the affiliate networks made their desires known, there were only two choices: gamble on the brand sentiment impact of pulling the show for an unknown amount of time (which we know now was short) or gamble by playing chicken with the affiliate networks and FCC chair.
As sad as it is to say, we have a lot of data about this: brand image problems are almost always transient while fights with corporate partners and regulators have drastic long term impact.
I abhor the fact that it's true, but c'mon, it's pretty clear what someone's choice would be in that situation if they're prioritizing shareholder value. Which, again, they are required to by law.
EDIT: I want to be clear here... You are talking as if "people get pissed but we bring it back a week later and then everyone moves on" wasn't the best possible outcome for them given the circumstances. I think it was, and that was calculated.
Nexstar, it should be noted, has a $6 billion-plus deal pending before the FCC to acquire Tegna, an agreement that would make it by far the largest owner of local TV stations in the country. Sinclair has also expressed a desire to pursue M&A, which would also require FCC approval
So the only fight Disney would have is with the FCC chair and an act so blatantly in violation of the constitution republicans commented on it, or immediate damage to the brand.
EDIT: I want to be clear here... You are talking as if "people get pissed but we bring it back a week later and then everyone moves on" wasn't the best possible outcome for them given the circumstances. I think it was, and that was calculated.
Everyone has not moved on though.
People canceled subscriptions, many have been commenting they aren't going back.
You are assuming it was calculated, but from early reports a lot of the executive suite was angry about the quick decision that was made, and how it would be damaging to Disney long term.
This is all hypotheticals now, so I'm not going to do some back and forth on guesswork. But to suggest that it was an issue of fiduciary duty - no, that was not the only choice based on financial impact. The brand is damaged. Subscriptions were on a rise and went into a freefall. Resorts saw a massive amount of cancelations, which will severely impact park revenue as well.
I stand by what I said - that was a severe misunderstanding or misstatement regarding fiduciary duties.
If Sinclair owns one of many local affiliates in your area and they own all networks across the country call that local network's advertisers up and let him know that you're not going to buy their products.
I don’t watch Kimmel. Nothing particularly against him I’m just not that into late night shows. But the real test here will be whether he’s been gagged from specific topics and people.
But you started with "I don't watch Kimmel." That is entirely irrelevant in this test.
I am not trying tobe difficult, but so many things online get turned into personal issues reflexively. This one is so huge that to minimize it to preference is to miss the point.
I get that's not what you may be doing, however, the core institutions important to this country's identity are right now being dismantled. It's not about our preferences.
I suspect we'll find out in his opening monologue.
My bet, he treats it like a victory lap, does a few innocuous jabs at "both sides", drops one really sharp line seemingly off script, and then continues the show as if nothing happened. He will make fun of how awkward Trump was at the Kirk memorial, and make no mention of racism, bigotry, or fascism because that's the deal they made.
And I can't say I blame him. The gun isn't to his head. It's pointed at all of the people who work on the show and don't have the political freedom that comes with being extremely rich.
Contact your ISP and let them know you aren't interested in a Disney+ subscription and why. Mention any competing ISP in your area has whatever other streaming service, and its tempting because its not Disney+.
The odds of having more than one viable ISP option in the US are slim. I live in a major metro, and it's only been the past couple years I've had a second option. I was living comcastrated for the previous decades.
I live in the US, so I'm unfortunately all too aware. My options are dialup, DSL with speeds I had 20+ years ago, or a cable provider (not Comcast).
Even if they aren't viable (for example, the nonsensical DSL provider I mentioned), they may still have an offering. Mine is trying to give away netflix subs (with speeds that are barely usable). Doesn't change the message to the ISP though.
There's a skill to recognizing when you have your opponent by the balls. This is one of those times. That night, Kimmel can get away with just about anything short of uncensored f-bombs and nudity. What could they possibly do? Un-un-cancel him?
He really ought to work a quick cut of that clip into his new monologue. He doesn't have to be talking about Charlie, just something about the latest announcement from Trump, run the clip, oops, that's still in the machine from when they axed me last week, here's the new one, something about autism.
Yeah, awesome, amazing. I'm so stoked. Really ... No, I love the man show guy, and late night TV is so relevant. But... I'll leave Disney+ cancelled. I'm not really into the whole capitulation to fascism thing. It just kinda seems like Disney only cares about the bottom line, money. Thanks, and fuck you Mickey. It's weird that you own pluto when you are best friends with goofy. Totally fucked up. They are both dogs.
This is how capitalism works... it's about the dollar you make today, not tomorrow or the next... it hurt the dollars they made, so they had to respond... nothing more nothing less...
Are they really both dogs though, I mean one of them is fully anthropomorphised, walks on two legs, talks, etc, while the other is more like just a normal dog. Seems like different species to me.
I'm glad he's back, but I hope he finds a better venue. If Disney is going to flip on a dime, it'd be better if he left for a more reliable brand (if possible).
However, a lot of people here and there have been reporting that they've cancelled their Disney subscriptions. They saw that the trend is not showing signs of ending and had to make it end. Get Kimmel back and customers will stop leaking away.
Get Kimmel back and customers will stop leaking away.
Thats the plan for sure. They've lost ground, they won't recover all the subscribers lost, but they are trying to stop the absolute hemorrhaging they were seeing.
'you can come back, but here is the list of things you are not allowed to talk about.. in fact, we need you to run your scripts past our lawyers 4 weeks in advance.'
I mean, the damage is done. I'm sure Jimmy will be restricted on what he is allowed to say, ratings are already dropping due to the abuse of the 1st amendment by ABC.
So the end of this is what the Nazi's wanted anyway. His show will be canceled due to low ratings in a month or 2 and they will all rejoice.
When the reality is, he was threatened by many people much more powerful than him and he probably doesn't want to deal with that shit.
I'm sure Jimmy will be restricted on what he is allowed to say
I'm actually pretty convinced that the opposite is true. If Disney is bringing him back on the air, then they know they'll be facing the wrath of trump, they've already come to terms with that. And they also know who Jimmy Kimmel is, they know that a late night comic in this position has to talk about the controversy and they have to double down. I'd put money on Kimmel poking fun at Trump and Kirk on his first day back.
And more to the point, Disney no longer has any leverage to stop Kimmel from saying whatever he wants. What are they going to do, re-cancel him? They'll look like fools and fascists, and they'll watch their profits drop once again. No, Kimmel has all the leverage here, Disney just wants this whole ordeal to be over.
Well it turns out as of this morning, nexstar who would show the jimmy kimmel show is pulling it and showing news during his hour. So only people who have streaming platforms and pay for it will see it, so a MUCH smaller audience than normal. So not sure what happens from here.
I hope Kimmel opens the return show with jokes that show Charlie the respect he is due (and no more). Give the FCC an example of obscenity for their textbooks.
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FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 212 pts · 332d
I don't watch the show, and I cancelled Disney+/Hulu. That being said, I'm just stoked that Trump is going to be so mad.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 62 pts · 332d
I might watch just to boost the numbers that he hates so much
nuggie_ss@lemmings.world · 22 pts · 332d
Why would trump be mad? This proves that we're living in an atmosphere where he can do whatever he wants, and only a massive response can do anything to stop him.
This means that while he won't get away with censoring Kimmel, he will get away with censoring many, many others that do not have the support Kimmel has.
It's genuinely mob rule.
mp3@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 332d
It proves his power isn't absolute, so I can see him requiring a huge dose of
(Although, according to RFK Jr and his voice that ressembles a garbage disposal and his face that looks like a microwaved Mel Gibson, that could cause autism).
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 331d
Microwaved Mel Gibson is fucking perfect.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 332d
I’m more excited to see what comes out of this than what Jimmy Kimmel does.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 134 pts · 332d
Dont care, fuck ABC.
cybervseas@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 332d
Yeah I think we’re done. Even Dad has stopped watching ABC News in the evenings.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 331d
what... uh, news does he watch now then?
tal@olio.cafe · 13 pts · 332d
I don't watch ABC --- though I'll occasionally look at their website --- but I do care. I think that it's a positive not to have Kimmel kicked off over this.
flandish@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 332d
here’s the rub - he was kicked off and you cannot unring that bell. he was restored sure. but both actions are for two very big reasons. the former because of an alliance with fascism and the latter because of an alliance toward profit.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 93 pts · 332d
Until the board & Iger are tossed, I'm still not going to give you assholes, or your advertisers, any more money.
neatchee@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 332d
It's not Disney's fault, really. It's Sinclair and Nexstar, the affiliate networks. They're the ones that could have pushed back without drastic financial consequences, and they're the ones that pressured ABC to can the show.
Disney management has a fiduciary responsibility they cannot ignore. They handled this as well as they could (and likely raised hell behind closed doors).
Put your ire where it belongs: the fascists and their supporters, not the businesses trying to survive this hellscape without breaking laws
There are LOTS of reasons to hate Disney and their management but this isn't one of them IMO
ThePrimitive@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 331d
I'm so sick of this braindead god-damned cop out. A fascist authoritarian has seized power. If your FiDuCiArY rEsPoNsIbIlItY necessitates absconding moral and ethical responsibilities, let the stupid company burn. Sacrifices must be made to achieve and maintain self governance.
neatchee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 331d
I mean, I personally agree with the sentiment, but I'm not naive enough to think that's the argument we should be having right now. We can tackle "should businesses be expected to self-immolate for the sake of morality" once the fascists are fucking gone.
Like, they did exactly what they were supposed to do here and managed the fucking crisis then got him back on the air ASAP. But people are pissed at Disney for playing the fucking game instead of at Sinclair and Nexstar, because Disney is a more visible target. It's myopic and pointless.
Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee · 7 pts · 332d
They worked as predefined by the priorities given by Disney.
Disney chose to give instructions that lead to this kind of occurrences, among other stuff.
neatchee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 332d
Huh? What are you talking about? Sinclair and Nexstar are not in any way beholden to Disney. They are affiliate networks. They are not in any way a part of Disney or operating under their guidance
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 331d
Sorry, but this is a complete misunderstanding of how this works.
Recognizing that pulling Kimmel's show would result in severe harm to the brand, short term and long term, matches that responsibility as well. Shareholders can even make the decision to claim the board (and specifically Iger) were in violation of their duties with this decision. The blowback was obvious and expected.
They absolutely are at fault.
neatchee@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 331d
There has literally never been a case where defending free speech or any other ethical/moral position in the face of imminent business contract impact has successfully been used to defend against a breach of fiduciary responsibility claim.
You are talking about an imminent threat of action from extremely powerful business partners vs a nebulous argument towards the impact of moral decision making on profitability. Quite the contrary, there is a huge body of evidence that shows behaving immorally is often the most profitable behavior.
Brand damage from taking a show off the air for a week is far easier to undo than the fallout from two major affiliates cancelling their contracts for your entire network.
Sorry, I know what point you're trying to make, and you are theoretically correct but because it's completely unprovable with no precedent you are practically incorrect.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 331d
No, its that vs the clearly expected consumer response, which has a permanent brand impact and a short term subscriber/vacationer/etc impact, not to mention the 2% drop in stocks (an over $4b impact).
Ignoring ethics, this was a bad business decision. The long term impact is obviously not yet known, but the short term impact was rapid and strong.
neatchee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
It's not a zero sum game. Once the FCC chair did what he did and the affiliate networks made their desires known, there were only two choices: gamble on the brand sentiment impact of pulling the show for an unknown amount of time (which we know now was short) or gamble by playing chicken with the affiliate networks and FCC chair.
As sad as it is to say, we have a lot of data about this: brand image problems are almost always transient while fights with corporate partners and regulators have drastic long term impact.
I abhor the fact that it's true, but c'mon, it's pretty clear what someone's choice would be in that situation if they're prioritizing shareholder value. Which, again, they are required to by law.
EDIT: I want to be clear here... You are talking as if "people get pissed but we bring it back a week later and then everyone moves on" wasn't the best possible outcome for them given the circumstances. I think it was, and that was calculated.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 331d
Sinclair was going to do what Sinclair was going to do regardless:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sinclair-preempt-jimmy-kimmel-live-return-abc-1236377475/
I'll pull one key part of that article:
So the only fight Disney would have is with the FCC chair and an act so blatantly in violation of the constitution republicans commented on it, or immediate damage to the brand.
Everyone has not moved on though.
People canceled subscriptions, many have been commenting they aren't going back.
You are assuming it was calculated, but from early reports a lot of the executive suite was angry about the quick decision that was made, and how it would be damaging to Disney long term.
This is all hypotheticals now, so I'm not going to do some back and forth on guesswork. But to suggest that it was an issue of fiduciary duty - no, that was not the only choice based on financial impact. The brand is damaged. Subscriptions were on a rise and went into a freefall. Resorts saw a massive amount of cancelations, which will severely impact park revenue as well.
I stand by what I said - that was a severe misunderstanding or misstatement regarding fiduciary duties.
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 331d
If Sinclair owns one of many local affiliates in your area and they own all networks across the country call that local network's advertisers up and let him know that you're not going to buy their products.
neatchee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 331d
Yup! Been doing this and got Nexstar too
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world · 82 pts · 332d
I don’t watch Kimmel. Nothing particularly against him I’m just not that into late night shows. But the real test here will be whether he’s been gagged from specific topics and people.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 48 pts · 332d
None of this, not one iota, is about what we watch. I see person after person commenting "I don't watch Kimmel, but..."
Frankly, it could have been censorship of a right wing show like Charlie Kirk and our response should be the same.
It's not about our preferences. It's about Freedom of Speech and the articles in the Bill of Rights.
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 332d
Which is literally why I mentioned there is a real test here.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 332d
But you started with "I don't watch Kimmel." That is entirely irrelevant in this test.
I am not trying tobe difficult, but so many things online get turned into personal issues reflexively. This one is so huge that to minimize it to preference is to miss the point.
I get that's not what you may be doing, however, the core institutions important to this country's identity are right now being dismantled. It's not about our preferences.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 331d
I am pretty sure they mentioned they don't watch just to emphasize that it matters either way.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 331d
Did you read the entirety of what you replied to?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 331d
Yep. You explained to them, in a scolding manner, a point that they themselves already made. So I think if anyone didn't read here, it's you.
pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 332d
I’ll disagree that fascist speech and the foment of violence should be protected. I’m not cheering what happened to Kirk but not sad about it.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 332d
And that is your right.
I also agree with your position, but I believe in the right to speak freely even more vehemently.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 332d
I suspect we'll find out in his opening monologue.
My bet, he treats it like a victory lap, does a few innocuous jabs at "both sides", drops one really sharp line seemingly off script, and then continues the show as if nothing happened. He will make fun of how awkward Trump was at the Kirk memorial, and make no mention of racism, bigotry, or fascism because that's the deal they made.
And I can't say I blame him. The gun isn't to his head. It's pointed at all of the people who work on the show and don't have the political freedom that comes with being extremely rich.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
The most reasonable take here honestly
nuggie_ss@lemmings.world · 19 pts · 332d
If he doesn't come out swinging by mentioning front-and-center how the president and corporation colluded to have him censored, then he still lost.
comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 75 pts · 332d
Still not paying for Disney+ ever again.
nuggie_ss@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 332d
Good. You can always use free streaming sites.
nuggie_ss@lemmings.world · 59 pts · 332d
The damage has been done.
Anyone who resubscribes because of this is an absolute tool.
downhomechunk@midwest.social · 22 pts · 331d
Don't worry, I never subscribed in the first place. Yaaaarrrrrrr.....
UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 331d
Right? I went from passively refusing to give Disney my (non-existent) money to actively refusing to give Disney my (still non-existent) money.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 331d
Ugh. I have a free sub through my internet. Can I cancel that somehow?
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 331d
Guess you just have to cancel your whole Internet then, aw shucks
downhomechunk@midwest.social · 1 pts · 329d
You laugh, but this is how Comcast dealt with me knowing it was them or 4g wireless internet.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 4 pts · 331d
Contact your ISP and let them know you aren't interested in a Disney+ subscription and why. Mention any competing ISP in your area has whatever other streaming service, and its tempting because its not Disney+.
downhomechunk@midwest.social · 2 pts · 329d
The odds of having more than one viable ISP option in the US are slim. I live in a major metro, and it's only been the past couple years I've had a second option. I was living comcastrated for the previous decades.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 329d
I live in the US, so I'm unfortunately all too aware. My options are dialup, DSL with speeds I had 20+ years ago, or a cable provider (not Comcast).
Even if they aren't viable (for example, the nonsensical DSL provider I mentioned), they may still have an offering. Mine is trying to give away netflix subs (with speeds that are barely usable). Doesn't change the message to the ISP though.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 48 pts · 331d
Jimmy Kimmel needs to do a solid 15 minutes of nothing but Charlie Kirk material when he returns
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 331d
He needs to bash cowardly media executives for the entire segment and then quit at the end, after encouraging people to keep boycotting.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 331d
There's a skill to recognizing when you have your opponent by the balls. This is one of those times. That night, Kimmel can get away with just about anything short of uncensored f-bombs and nudity. What could they possibly do? Un-un-cancel him?
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 2 pts · 331d
Damn, f-b***s and nudity? The thing that is on daytime tv in civilised countries? Can you imagine?
ceenote@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 332d
"We didn't know you'd be this mad"
I'll be deeply disappointed if Kimmel apologizes for anything.
Joeffect@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 332d
I hope he doubles down and calls all these fuckers out for the corruption happening
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 332d
A reminder of what Kimmel was fired for. He showed trump completely not care about kirk's death.
Starts at about 2 minutes.
Video of monologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3YdxNSzTk
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 331d
He really ought to work a quick cut of that clip into his new monologue. He doesn't have to be talking about Charlie, just something about the latest announcement from Trump, run the clip, oops, that's still in the machine from when they axed me last week, here's the new one, something about autism.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 332d
Yeah, awesome, amazing. I'm so stoked. Really ... No, I love the man show guy, and late night TV is so relevant. But... I'll leave Disney+ cancelled. I'm not really into the whole capitulation to fascism thing. It just kinda seems like Disney only cares about the bottom line, money. Thanks, and fuck you Mickey. It's weird that you own pluto when you are best friends with goofy. Totally fucked up. They are both dogs.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 332d
I'm glad someone is talking about the real issues
Joeffect@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 332d
This is how capitalism works... it's about the dollar you make today, not tomorrow or the next... it hurt the dollars they made, so they had to respond... nothing more nothing less...
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 332d
Are they really both dogs though, I mean one of them is fully anthropomorphised, walks on two legs, talks, etc, while the other is more like just a normal dog. Seems like different species to me.
parody@lemmings.world · 29 pts · 332d
LET’S GO JIMMY
jankforlife@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 332d
Fuck disney still tho
ProfThadBach@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 332d
At this point I am done with Disney. There is not much they can do to get me back.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
[side-eyeing the Mandalorian and Grogu poster, sweating]
Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee · 7 pts · 332d
Ever heard of this thing called Torrent? It was created, among other reasons, for situations precisely like this one ❤️
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
Yarr matey. I was just making a joke about how my morality is at odds with my nostalgic devotion to intellectual properties.
Oh wait, I thought of another witty reply:
You wouldn't download a Razor Crest, shoot a Mandalorian, shit in his helmet, give it to his alien baby foundling, and then steal the helmet again.
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 331d
Yarrrrr me to matey ..but not sweating so much. Just torrenting
Donebrach@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 331d
hope he comes on, says fuck abc and quits and leaves the stage. he won’t though because he is a literal part of the problem.
JubJubBird@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 331d
In what way is he a part of what problem?
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 331d
You're also asking all the writers and crew to lose their jobs. They can't necessarily slide into another one like Kimmel can.
Donebrach@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 331d
not like there’s a million and a half shows in production at any given moment.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 332d
TACO Tuesday!
muxika@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 331d
I'm glad he's back, but I hope he finds a better venue. If Disney is going to flip on a dime, it'd be better if he left for a more reliable brand (if possible).
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 331d
Him, and Jesus, apparently
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 332d
Doesn't matter. The same assholes who capitulated to the fascist are still there so keep on boycotting them and their advertisers as much as possible.
They have learned not a damn thing here.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 332d
Did he apologize and purchase their indulgence?
Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee · 4 pts · 332d
Most likely not.
However, a lot of people here and there have been reporting that they've cancelled their Disney subscriptions. They saw that the trend is not showing signs of ending and had to make it end. Get Kimmel back and customers will stop leaking away.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 331d
Thats the plan for sure. They've lost ground, they won't recover all the subscribers lost, but they are trying to stop the absolute hemorrhaging they were seeing.
Wytch@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 332d
I'm with y'all not giving Disney a cent going forward, I unsubbed a long time ago, but fuck me this is gonna piss off Trump and that makes me giggle.
kowcop@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 332d
'you can come back, but here is the list of things you are not allowed to talk about.. in fact, we need you to run your scripts past our lawyers 4 weeks in advance.'
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 331d
It's too late.
We know who you are.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 332d
Fuck you micky mouse
Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 332d
Too late, the damage is done.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 332d
I mean, the damage is done. I'm sure Jimmy will be restricted on what he is allowed to say, ratings are already dropping due to the abuse of the 1st amendment by ABC.
So the end of this is what the Nazi's wanted anyway. His show will be canceled due to low ratings in a month or 2 and they will all rejoice.
When the reality is, he was threatened by many people much more powerful than him and he probably doesn't want to deal with that shit.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 331d
I'm actually pretty convinced that the opposite is true. If Disney is bringing him back on the air, then they know they'll be facing the wrath of trump, they've already come to terms with that. And they also know who Jimmy Kimmel is, they know that a late night comic in this position has to talk about the controversy and they have to double down. I'd put money on Kimmel poking fun at Trump and Kirk on his first day back.
And more to the point, Disney no longer has any leverage to stop Kimmel from saying whatever he wants. What are they going to do, re-cancel him? They'll look like fools and fascists, and they'll watch their profits drop once again. No, Kimmel has all the leverage here, Disney just wants this whole ordeal to be over.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 331d
Well it turns out as of this morning, nexstar who would show the jimmy kimmel show is pulling it and showing news during his hour. So only people who have streaming platforms and pay for it will see it, so a MUCH smaller audience than normal. So not sure what happens from here.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 332d
The ratings have spoken.
echodot@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 331d
So brave. So much backbone
zd9@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 332d
yeahh... fuck ABC still
solrize@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 332d
Now we find out whether the FCC was bluffing about pulling the license. That should be interesting.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 332d
The question is what kind of deal was done behind closed doors.
FEIN@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
I can only imagine how much fun he'll have in the first show back haha
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
We already knew they could roll over.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
I hope Kimmel opens the return show with jokes that show Charlie the respect he is due (and no more). Give the FCC an example of obscenity for their textbooks.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
I too don't watch the show.
But I think we're all curious on how he's gonna handle it.
Will he double down and mock trump (highly doubt). Will he do some type of apology whether forced or not to keep his job? Somewhere in between?
parody@lemmings.world · -5 pts · 332d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
How fucking high are you?