Honestly, this is arguably the most significant thing for America for the night. Countering Texas’ Gerrymander is big, but it’s not as sexy of a story.
Yeah, I agree, that is also very important. But I still think that getting rid of Pelosi and the other ghouls in the DNC would/could be the most important thing right now. The Democratic Party desperately needs a renewal, a progressive reform and to embrace real left-wing, socialist politics to save the middle class from sliding down and help poor people to break out - as opposed to give in to every wish and whim of billionaire oligarchs who are stealing literally all wealth from the rest of society.
The whole 'let's follow the republicans further and further to the right to grab the centrist's votes' idea clearly is not working. It is not making peoples' lives better (except for the oligarchs). And it is not even helping democrats win elections and secure power any more.
Appeasement didn't work against the nazis, why would it work against MAGA?
But unfortunately Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and the rest of these cronies are all absolutely hellbent on keeping up with the appeasement. They all need to retire or get primaried, or the US is lost to fascism for who knows how many decades.
The way I always put it, moving left may not win us elections (and those imagining a quiet leftist supermajority need to talk to more normies), but sure as shit it's been proven that neither will moving right.
Moving left will improve the country, while moving right will make it worse.
Ceteris paribus, the choice should be obvious: moving left isn't a panacea for our electoral problems, but it is still very much the preferable choice. Caution may be called for on specific issues, but in general, the American electorate is not very ideological in any coherent sense. 'Left' and 'right' are feelings for them, and they'll side with whichever 'sounds good' at a given moment.
Let's purge the Dems of these ancient neoliberal ghouls and move fucking left. I'm so fucking tired. If we still lose, at least this time we'll lose with a little basic fucking dignity. Which isn't much, but still a hell of a lot better than selling out and losing anyway.
I find it very interesting that it was put up to a vote in California. In Texas, the legislators just took it upon themselves to cheat. "Going high" is going to bite the dems in the ass eventually, though.
Texas doesn’t allow for citizens to gather signatures to put something directly on the ballot. The politicians control everything.
CA citizens used a citizen-led ballot initiative to take the redistricting keys away from the legislature. Stuff like this has to go before voters in CA.
No, they are cheating, just with the blessing of the public. Like gerrymandering isn't a thing you should be able to do, fullstop, but it isn't something normally possible to do in California.
Yes, there's a California rule that states that redistricting is done by a non-partisan commission. This explicitly sidesteps that process. They're breaking a rule with permission but they're still breaking a rule.
If your DM rules that you can have two actions in a turn without reason, it's still cheating.
It HAD to go before a vote in Cali. We didn’t have a choice politically since our independent election map commission is enshrined into the state constitution. In Texas they don’t have anything remotely enshrined into their constitution so for us here in Cali we had to put it to the people and even then it’s sorta weak since it has an exact end date in 2030. It’s only here for one cycle before it falls off and goes back. Which could be dangerous if the other states don’t stop gerrymandering.
It's preferable that it has an end date since it's intentionally cheating the system for the greater good. I'd rather have it keep going up for a vote every 5 years so we can choose to put it back as needed.
the gop has been doing that anyway. both parties have, but gop has been much more brazen and extreme with it. so if all states do the max the red states should get much more diminishing returns while blue states gain more seats for Dems.
Other blue states need to do their part, but doing “their own prop 50” probably won’t be a thing.
Every state handles their constitution, legislation and redistricting differently. Politicians in Texas can just redraw districts if they want. In CA, the citizens control the keys to voting districts.
Also, if other states did want to vote on something, they would need to scramble for an expensive special election now. They just missed the annual window to vote.
I am glad that this passed in California, but this whole thing makes me feel terrible for the outlook of the country. I've been interested in counter-gerrymandering and alternative voting methods like ranked choice voting for a while now. I had loved seeing some states like California and Colorado taking steps to better elections.
But of course, having better and better elections in blue states just allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to seize control at a national level. I don't know how you fix this problem, other than to do what California did and beat them at their own game. I don't see a constitutional amendment being passed to help any time soon.
allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to cease control at a national level
If only they'd cease 🥲
Americans, I highly encourage you to do everything you can to seize the means of federal elections, and put it in the hands of an independent federal electoral commission, instead of the nonsense state administration you currently have.
Maybe one day you'll have a voting system as good as ours (one point we are very proud of).
Turnout is very high every election, and we don't need to waste political messaging airspace on "get out the vote", so this part of our political system seems to be working well (capitalism and neoliberalism being a bane to our existence notwithstanding).
Side note, "get out the vote" is a weird sentence.
So is it pronounced pedo-nald? Or Ped-onald?
That last one sounds more like he has a foot fetish than a small child fetish that he actually does but rolls of the tongue easier than the first one.
Maybe Peed-on-Ald? He does like getting pissed on.
Too confusing.... pedo could basically mean any guy working for this administration. Just like cheap-plastic-doll-who-refuses-to-age could refer to any female around them.
Tbf, Nancy didn't announce her retirement. The voters finally did it for her.
Schumer needs to be next and Jeffries can join him for early bird specials and get the hell out of politics - this is a serious time and you have nothing to meet this moment.
I'll name them, though I don't condone violence since that almost always martyrs them and makes things worse. Just will be happy when they die of old age or McDonald's.
Hegseth derives all his power from Trump, so if Trump's gone, he's rendered irrelevant. None of the GOP establishment likes him. Miller can definitely continue to do damage on his own, though.
The dutch had an election last week and seemed to shift from extreme right to more middle ground parties, with "dutch trump" losing his majority and two center parties gaining loads of votes. Now they just need to find a way to form a working government with 4 (or even 5) different political parties needed for a majority.
Dick Cheney was among the worst in an administration that disrespected human rights, international law, honesty, trustworthiness and set the US reputation as well as the fight against global warming way back.
Usually, that probably would have been my last thought of him.
Except, we have this crazy timeline. This timeline, in which he was able to stand out just by pointing out that he is still in favour of free elections. At least that was still a given in his time, even though the decision about the loss of Al Gore was considered controversial by some back then.
administration that disrespected human rights, international law, honesty, trustworthiness and set the US reputation as well as the fight against global warming way back.
I wish this news made me happier. It ought to but all it reminds me is that in 2032 people will probably vote in mecha-hitler Grok Musk for US president because Americans have the collective memory of a goldfish.
That's why I've put her only on second place from the top. It's a nice thing that she's flipped a seat, but it's not gonna start a reform of the party. The reform is gonna come from Mamdani's win and Pelosi's retirement.
Part of the propaganda’s aim is to rob people of choices. Letting them think there is no hope is a key factor. The message overall is “this is the only way”, stamping out all other possibilities.
I don’t have much hope, but seeing the propaganda machine going full force for the NYC election actually made me feel like the was a chance for change. If the results didn’t matter or were obvious, they wouldn’t have cared to meddle.
Ahh I see. Thanks. My guess is he will never see office. I don’t know what they will do at this point, immigration thing or maybe just kill him. ~60 days is a long time from now.
Defeatism is not helpful. Oppose what’s happening, don’t appease the executive. Allow there to be some way to betterment before all you can do is say ‘there’s no hope’
You are absolutely entitled to have your opinion, but as I said in the other comment, your goal is to be mean to me because you don’t like the way I think. Everything you say from here on out is specifically tailored to get that dopamine you desire
I don't like the way you think because you make no sense. And I'm only being mean to you because you're actively trying to be destructive. Get it straight.
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PunnyName@lemmy.world · 192 pts · 286d
California passes Prop 50 in a landslide.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 120 pts · 286d
Honestly, this is arguably the most significant thing for America for the night. Countering Texas’ Gerrymander is big, but it’s not as sexy of a story.
2xar@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 286d
Yeah, I agree, that is also very important. But I still think that getting rid of Pelosi and the other ghouls in the DNC would/could be the most important thing right now. The Democratic Party desperately needs a renewal, a progressive reform and to embrace real left-wing, socialist politics to save the middle class from sliding down and help poor people to break out - as opposed to give in to every wish and whim of billionaire oligarchs who are stealing literally all wealth from the rest of society.
The whole 'let's follow the republicans further and further to the right to grab the centrist's votes' idea clearly is not working. It is not making peoples' lives better (except for the oligarchs). And it is not even helping democrats win elections and secure power any more.
Appeasement didn't work against the nazis, why would it work against MAGA?
But unfortunately Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries and the rest of these cronies are all absolutely hellbent on keeping up with the appeasement. They all need to retire or get primaried, or the US is lost to fascism for who knows how many decades.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 43 pts · 286d
The way I always put it, moving left may not win us elections (and those imagining a quiet leftist supermajority need to talk to more normies), but sure as shit it's been proven that neither will moving right.
Moving left will improve the country, while moving right will make it worse.
Ceteris paribus, the choice should be obvious: moving left isn't a panacea for our electoral problems, but it is still very much the preferable choice. Caution may be called for on specific issues, but in general, the American electorate is not very ideological in any coherent sense. 'Left' and 'right' are feelings for them, and they'll side with whichever 'sounds good' at a given moment.
Let's purge the Dems of these ancient neoliberal ghouls and move fucking left. I'm so fucking tired. If we still lose, at least this time we'll lose with a little basic fucking dignity. Which isn't much, but still a hell of a lot better than selling out and losing anyway.
2xar@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 286d
chunes@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 286d
I find it very interesting that it was put up to a vote in California. In Texas, the legislators just took it upon themselves to cheat. "Going high" is going to bite the dems in the ass eventually, though.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 286d
Texas doesn’t allow for citizens to gather signatures to put something directly on the ballot. The politicians control everything.
CA citizens used a citizen-led ballot initiative to take the redistricting keys away from the legislature. Stuff like this has to go before voters in CA.
The people are more in control in CA.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 286d
Texas has gone so far right, they might as well be 100% in control of every thing a person does at this point.
Every prop appears to have passed yesterday, and only a few are good ideas.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 286d
"Going high", in this case referring to using democratic principles to govern? That's not going high, that's how the system is supposed to work.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 286d
Things are so bad that 'not cheating' is taking the high road, yeah
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 286d
No, they are cheating, just with the blessing of the public. Like gerrymandering isn't a thing you should be able to do, fullstop, but it isn't something normally possible to do in California.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 286d
Working within a broken system isn't cheating though. Cheating means you're breaking the rules.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 286d
Yes, there's a California rule that states that redistricting is done by a non-partisan commission. This explicitly sidesteps that process. They're breaking a rule with permission but they're still breaking a rule.
If your DM rules that you can have two actions in a turn without reason, it's still cheating.
mean_bean279@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 286d
It HAD to go before a vote in Cali. We didn’t have a choice politically since our independent election map commission is enshrined into the state constitution. In Texas they don’t have anything remotely enshrined into their constitution so for us here in Cali we had to put it to the people and even then it’s sorta weak since it has an exact end date in 2030. It’s only here for one cycle before it falls off and goes back. Which could be dangerous if the other states don’t stop gerrymandering.
That or we’ll just leave next time.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 286d
It's preferable that it has an end date since it's intentionally cheating the system for the greater good. I'd rather have it keep going up for a vote every 5 years so we can choose to put it back as needed.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 285d
and its encouraged other blue states do thier own prop 50 too if the gop decides to "fully gerrymander" thier states.
pyre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 285d
the gop has been doing that anyway. both parties have, but gop has been much more brazen and extreme with it. so if all states do the max the red states should get much more diminishing returns while blue states gain more seats for Dems.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 285d
Other blue states need to do their part, but doing “their own prop 50” probably won’t be a thing.
Every state handles their constitution, legislation and redistricting differently. Politicians in Texas can just redraw districts if they want. In CA, the citizens control the keys to voting districts.
Also, if other states did want to vote on something, they would need to scramble for an expensive special election now. They just missed the annual window to vote.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 286d
I am glad that this passed in California, but this whole thing makes me feel terrible for the outlook of the country. I've been interested in counter-gerrymandering and alternative voting methods like ranked choice voting for a while now. I had loved seeing some states like California and Colorado taking steps to better elections.
But of course, having better and better elections in blue states just allowed red states to have worse and worse elections to seize control at a national level. I don't know how you fix this problem, other than to do what California did and beat them at their own game. I don't see a constitutional amendment being passed to help any time soon.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 286d
If only they'd cease 🥲
Americans, I highly encourage you to do everything you can to seize the means of federal elections, and put it in the hands of an independent federal electoral commission, instead of the nonsense state administration you currently have.
Maybe one day you'll have a voting system as good as ours (one point we are very proud of).
Love from Australia
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 285d
Oh man if we had mandatory elections like you guys it would go a long way. What's the penalty there for not voting?
MisterFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 285d
Technically they could fine you up to 1 Penalty Unit ($330 at time of writing).
But they just give you a $20 "administrative penalty" so they don't have to litigate.
https://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/non-voters.htm
Turnout is very high every election, and we don't need to waste political messaging airspace on "get out the vote", so this part of our political system seems to be working well (capitalism and neoliberalism being a bane to our existence notwithstanding).
Side note, "get out the vote" is a weird sentence.
Lightor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 285d
Seizing other things, like the means of production would also be pretty nifty.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 285d
Amen friend, amen.
Though that doesn't seem to be happening much anywhere these days :/
PugJesus@piefed.social · 67 pts · 286d
WAIT, PELOSI IS RETIRING TOO?
What a fan-fucking-tastic day!
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 286d
looks like it's a "rumor"
my guess is she's realizing people don't want a corrupt sack of bones representing them.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 286d
Like she gives a shit about the people
She probably just realized that she actually wants a retirement and to not end up like Dianne Feinstein.
We need to get the zombie voters out of congress desperately.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 286d
let me rephrase. She doesn't want the humiliation of getting her ass primaried as people decide to fuck it all to hell; causing her to lose.
This way she can go out on her own terms and pretend like she's not part of the problem while living off the shitloads of money she scammed from us.
cabbage@piefed.social · 9 pts · 286d
If she had the capacity to make such profound insights she would have gotten out of the way a long time ago.
can@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 286d
Oh cool, it's my turn to find out someone died from a meme.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 33 pts · 286d
Honestly this is just how I receive all my obituaries now
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 286d
RIP ur grandma 420 swag
2xar@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 286d
Glad I could help
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 47 pts · 286d
I really dislike the fact that this pos has a meme format. His wife literally works for pedonald on destroying the education system.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 286d
Drop an alt with maybe your cartoon franchise of choice and we can see about getting it to catch on
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 11 pts · 286d
So is it pronounced pedo-nald? Or Ped-onald?
That last one sounds more like he has a foot fetish than a small child fetish that he actually does but rolls of the tongue easier than the first one.
Maybe Peed-on-Ald? He does like getting pissed on.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 286d
Just call him pedo. Streamline it.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 286d
Too confusing.... pedo could basically mean any guy working for this administration. Just like cheap-plastic-doll-who-refuses-to-age could refer to any female around them.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 286d
galaxybrain is always an option
tbf, this meme isn't particularly painting him in a great light
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 286d
Do people actually admire people in memes?
I've always thought of them as like stock photos.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 285d
hell, I didn't even know who it was. Took a bit of footwork to find out :)
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 285d
IDK but it gives them visibility and that already too much for me.
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 286d
Dear diary, today wasn't shit. Thanks!
Snapz@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 286d
Tbf, Nancy didn't announce her retirement. The voters finally did it for her.
Schumer needs to be next and Jeffries can join him for early bird specials and get the hell out of politics - this is a serious time and you have nothing to meet this moment.
resting_parrot@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 286d
Yes, Schumer next please.
I think Jeffries is a good rep but bad leader. He doesn't need to retire, just let someone else take the leadership role.
workerONE@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 285d
Jeffries voting record on Israel is not good
On 4/20/2024 he voted yes on H.R.8034 to give $26.38 Billion in Additional Weapons “Aid” to Israel
9/23/2021 he voted yes on H.R. 5323 to give the Israeli government $1 billion more for their Iron Dome military system
7/23/2019 he didn't vote on H.Res. 246, which passed - H.Res. 246 - Opposing Global Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Movement targeting Israel
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 286d
sidelove@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 286d
I'll name them, though I don't condone violence since that almost always martyrs them and makes things worse. Just will be happy when they die of old age or McDonald's.
USA edition:
Int'l edition:
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 286d
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 286d
This isn't reddit, you're allowed to name them. I'm guessing you wanted Trump, Miller, and Hegseth?
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 285d
Alright alright that's a fair point, the mods here aren't corpofascist stooges like on Reddit.
DamnianWayne@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 285d
That's a good list!
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 286d
Hegseth derives all his power from Trump, so if Trump's gone, he's rendered irrelevant. None of the GOP establishment likes him. Miller can definitely continue to do damage on his own, though.
Mcdolan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 286d
Don't forget that scumbag that's a life appointed judge now. Emil Bove or whatever his KGB lookin ass's name is.
popcornpizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 286d
Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 286d
The dutch had an election last week and seemed to shift from extreme right to more middle ground parties, with "dutch trump" losing his majority and two center parties gaining loads of votes. Now they just need to find a way to form a working government with 4 (or even 5) different political parties needed for a majority.
Eq0@literature.cafe · 10 pts · 286d
That was such great news! I had already been bracing for an overtly racist NL, so happy they didn’t go that far right!
wulrus@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 286d
Dick Cheney was among the worst in an administration that disrespected human rights, international law, honesty, trustworthiness and set the US reputation as well as the fight against global warming way back.
Usually, that probably would have been my last thought of him.
Except, we have this crazy timeline. This timeline, in which he was able to stand out just by pointing out that he is still in favour of free elections. At least that was still a given in his time, even though the decision about the loss of Al Gore was considered controversial by some back then.
A low bar, a low bar indeed. But here we go, on this positive note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Nq9SpGzic
coldengineering1234@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 286d
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 285d
I remember when I earnestly believed it would impossible to have a country with an elected leader that was dumber than George bush.
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 285d
I remember thinking in the lead up to Iraq war 2 that we had entered the post-truth era. Little did I know how much further we could go.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 286d
Didn't he shoot a guy in the face once too? That was a fun time
thallamabond@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 285d
Not only did he shoot somebody in the face, he probably never apologized.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney_hunting_accident
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 285d
Yep, but here's the kicker. He got the guy he shot to apologize to him!
wulrus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 283d
tbf, getting shot in the face IS one of the better interactions you can have with Dick Cheney.
I mean, which one would you pick?
funnyBunny@ani.social · 6 pts · 285d
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 20 pts · 286d
It's giving me the best kind of whiplash.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 286d
An old San Francisco Bay Area emmigrant, I hadn't heard about Pelosi. That's such good news.
I really expected someone would have to pry her office titles from her cold dead hands the way we had to with Feinstein.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 286d
Mikie Sherril won as goober of NJ, too.
EDIT: Obligatory: DingDong the Dick IS DEAD
regedit@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 286d
LET'S FUCKING GO!
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 286d
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK BABY!
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 286d
All im seeing is speculation on pelosis retirement, and apperantly shes set to talke about it. Did it already happen?
Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 286d
It's speculated that she'll announce it very soon now that prop 50 has passed.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 285d
Thanks for confirming.
splashgarden@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 286d
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 285d
I wish this news made me happier. It ought to but all it reminds me is that in 2032 people will probably vote in mecha-hitler Grok Musk for US president because Americans have the collective memory of a goldfish.
zqps@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 285d
Its political education too.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 286d
About damn time that old bitch retired.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 286d
Wait did she really? Of all the news today I missed that one.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 286d
Let’s hope every time one of the old shriveled turds kicks it things like this happen.
FE80@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 285d
Spanberger is ex-CIA, and a party selected candidate (she went through no primary). Expect no substantial changes.
2xar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 284d
That's why I've put her only on second place from the top. It's a nice thing that she's flipped a seat, but it's not gonna start a reform of the party. The reform is gonna come from Mamdani's win and Pelosi's retirement.
Daxelman@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 286d
I need Nancy Policy dies by falling down the fucking stairs and I'm throwing a party.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 285d
too bad hakeem isnt any better.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -23 pts · 286d
It’s sweet to see you all getting so happy like there’s hope.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 286d
If there wasn’t hope they would spend so much money on propaganda.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -14 pts · 286d
What does that even mean?
Eq0@literature.cafe · 12 pts · 286d
Part of the propaganda’s aim is to rob people of choices. Letting them think there is no hope is a key factor. The message overall is “this is the only way”, stamping out all other possibilities.
I don’t have much hope, but seeing the propaganda machine going full force for the NYC election actually made me feel like the was a chance for change. If the results didn’t matter or were obvious, they wouldn’t have cared to meddle.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -2 pts · 286d
Ahh I see. Thanks. My guess is he will never see office. I don’t know what they will do at this point, immigration thing or maybe just kill him. ~60 days is a long time from now.
Eq0@literature.cafe · 4 pts · 286d
Gosh, you are way more negative than me… fingers crossed that it doesn’t come to that
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 286d
I’m not negative. My views are based on what the Republican Party has said and done. Expecting reality, even if it’s dark, doesn’t mean I’m negative.
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 286d
Defeatism is not helpful. Oppose what’s happening, don’t appease the executive. Allow there to be some way to betterment before all you can do is say ‘there’s no hope’
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -19 pts · 286d
Actually, it’s quite helpful.
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 286d
Defeatism : an attitude of accepting, expecting, or being resigned to defeat
How is that helpful. The dictionary definition has nothing regarding pushing back
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -15 pts · 286d
That’s the word YOU choose to use, but “defeated” would only be true if we sit back and deny unpleasant truths.
i_am_tired_boss@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 286d
Yeah man! Tell them losers!
Y'all are so uncool; living and shit. You should all be dead like me.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 7 pts · 286d
Username checks out
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -16 pts · 286d
Haha. I love how sad y’all get when you’re reminded of reality.
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 11 pts · 286d
We get it, you've given up without putting up a fight.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -2 pts · 286d
I think you are very confused and just hearing what you want to hear. Which is also what I think you’re doing with this image.
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 3 pts · 286d
Sounds like projection to me. You're going out of your way to be a huge Negative Nancy. Like I said, you sound sus af.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -2 pts · 286d
You are absolutely entitled to have your opinion, but as I said in the other comment, your goal is to be mean to me because you don’t like the way I think. Everything you say from here on out is specifically tailored to get that dopamine you desire
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 3 pts · 286d
I don't like the way you think because you make no sense. And I'm only being mean to you because you're actively trying to be destructive. Get it straight.
oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 286d
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 286d
Fine, get excited. Just know at this rate, fascism is inevitable. Be happy for yesterday… but by tomorrow you’ll need to focus on the road ahead.
oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 286d
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 286d
You’re right. I’ve already started the emigration process. I’m outa here. Good luck voting again!
oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 286d
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 12 pts · 286d
Why do you feel the need to discourage people? You sound like a propagandist.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -6 pts · 286d
Sometimes discouragement is encouragement.
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 5 pts · 286d
Please walk me through that logic of yours.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -4 pts · 286d
Why would I do that? We both know that you are just here to attack me, and no matter what sense I make your goal is to get dopamine.
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 5 pts · 286d
As I thought, a propagandist trying to make sense out of nonsense.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -3 pts · 286d
Your comprehension skills are nonexistent
AngularViscosity@piefed.social · 3 pts · 286d
How am I supposed to comprehend something you've refused to explain? Your communication skills are nonexistent. 😂