It's basically like the Spanish blood sausage but using oats instead of rice right? I think that's a downgrade but from a 10 to a 9 so I still love it.
I noticed it was a Yougov poll and then it made sense. I've lost all hope of the general population being able to make any reasonable decision. This might be the worst (best?) example yet.
Yorkshire puddings are entirely all right but they're not top tier. That's like saying bread is top tier, it depends entirely on what you can buy it with. No one has just the Yorkshire pudding on a plate that's not a meal.
Welsh rarebit though is. That should be at the top of the list, if I ever go to a cafe and they have that on the menu I will 100% definitely have it every single time.
Yeah, why is Yorkshire Pudding at the top but Toad-in-the-hole is halfway down, when they are the same thing, except one is a proper meal and the other isn't?
I've never had a good Yorkshire pudding. They are always disappointing. It's irrelevant how much of the rest of your sunday roast you eat with it, it always makes the rest of the roast taste worse than it would had you not wasted your time with the Yorkshire pudding.
Wow thems fighting words. But i'm thinking you've perhaps been eating the wrong ones? I've had some truly dire ones, its not like its a recipie impossible to mess up, but most of them i've had are really amazing. Crispy sides, slightly soft bottom is the ideal imo, but you also can't make up for bad ones just by the cooking, it's also what they're made of
I've had a few Sunday roasts (in the UK) in my time, and been to good pubs and bad across a variety of English locales to have them, they are always shit. Have even tried homemade ones by someone who everyone says makes great Yorkshire puddings. Disappoint always ensued. It's always the same, a mostly tasteless piece of batter that takes more from a meal than it adds.
This is madness. A full English (top tier) should have black pudding (apparently so-called bottom tier) on it. Madness, I tell you. And clearly a steak and kidney pudding is superior to a steak and kidney pie. It's all to cock!
I see your full English and raise you a full Scottish. Just like a full English but with haggis, fruit pudding, tattie scone, and guaranteed black pudding (English seems to only sometimes come with black pudding).
You're not wrong, it is definitely an improvement. Fruit pudding is such a weird juxtaposition, like a cinnamon tart, super sweet eaten alongside all of the salty.
Since I moved to the south east I have never seen a full english with black pudding and it saddens me. But I would rather make my own anyway as I can do it properly.
Mid tier - Chicken Tikka Massala & Welsh Rarebit should be Top Tier (I had Welsh rarebit for the first time in the summer, regret not having it earlier)
Low Tier - Pork Pie & Steak & Kideny Pie belong in crap tier (replace kidney with ale and it becomes God Tier)
Crap Tier - black pudding should be top tier. Haggis mid tier.
It never occured to my stupid Canadian brain that Chicken Tikka was actually British. But it makes sense in the same way that a lot of foods are "Canadian" because they were invented by immigrants adapting a dish to their new home.
British sources have a belief and can't objectively prove it was first made there:
“One story purports that it was invented in the 1970s by Ali Ahmed Aslam, a Pakistani‑Scottish chef in Glasgow, who, to please a customer, added a mild tomato‑cream sauce to his chicken tikka" - Brittanica
“Ali Ahmed Aslam, a Pakistani‑immigrant chef in Glasgow, claimed he invented chicken tikka masala in the early 1970s using canned tomato soup and spices.” - NPR
Punjabi sources claim it had already been done at least a decade prior, also can't be proven.
“A recipe for ‘Shahi Chicken Masala’ appears in this 1961 Indian cookbook, predating the Glasgow claim by a decade.” - Balbir Singh’s Indian Cookery (1961)
“My grandfather was serving chicken tikka masala to Indian heads of state as early as 1947.” - as reported by NPR from an interview with Monish Gurjal chairman of Moti Mahal (one of the first restaurants to introduce Punjabi and North Indian cuisine to the rest of the world)
Thing is, while real pork pies and scotch eggs are great, lots of people might have only experienced the sad, dry, disappointments that are sold en masse in supermarkets. So in that context I can see why they rank so low.
I'll start saying I'm Brazilian and have never gone to the British islands, but I feel like this is wrong just by beef Wellington being so low. I've had a homemade one and it was the best thing ever, and even before having it, it just sounds so delicious!!! Anyway besides that everything above the lowest tier are def on my list of things I'd love to try at least once, while some of the lowest tier just make me not want to try because of the idea of what bit of meat I'd be eating, I would give it a try since I do enjoy a bit of liver every know and then, and chicken hearts are really good (at least in the Brazilian BBQ style) so I could like boss sausages and other things
Have you tried the W2Kitchen version? It's impossibly roasty and full of caramel flavour, browning on top of browning... If I talk more I'll have to go make it.
After years hearing about how awful haggis is, I've been very pleasantly surprised when I finally got to taste it earlier this year. It tastes like mutton, which I love, and the oats give it a very pleasant texture. Definitely in my top tier of British food
With the rewilding efforts of the Scottish government there's been a recent uptick in haggis numbers though! The downside with that however is the little buggers have been breaking into industrial oat stores and gobbling up as much as they can, so the price of oats has increased.
Last I heard, the oat industry were discussing moving their storage locations to flatter ground so the haggis struggle to get to it with their mismatched legs.
Fried fish is a big thing in Portugal and Galiza, in fact that's were the brits got the idea, but almost no one would rate it god tier among the local cuisine.
I don't know where to start...
Steak and kidney pie is low tier but 'Pie and mash' is mid tier?
Kippers, Steak and kidney pudding, Black pudding; all crap?
Bump the Cottage and Shepherd's pies down and stick the hotpot, kippers, and snake and pygmy in top tier where they belong.
idk why people say that about British food, this all looks warm and filling, it's basically comfort food. The worst thing about it is there are very few fruits and vegetables but presumably those are side dishes.
I mean... pies are very practical in cold climates. By "bland" I think you mean that they lack spices, which is true except for pepper, but that's like saying Japanese food is a problem because it doesn't have enough jalapeños.
"Boring" is subjective, tho I think we'd agree that to a modern palate it wouldn't be very exciting to only eat British food exclusively. That can be said of any country's cuisine tho.
Haggis is boss. S+k pudding and black pudding also don’t belong on the bottom tier - particularly as black pudding is a component of full English in the top tier!
I’d also swap Toad In The Hole with one the mince based pies above - the world needs to know about Toad In The Hole!
Cornish pasty and welsh rarebit are god tier.
Ploughman's lunch and Lancashire hotpot are top tier. Yorkshire pudding is top tier. Haggis done right is a LOT better than you think (caveat, I was very very drunk when I tried it.)
Haggis with neeps and tatties and a little gravy is amazing. So peppery and satisfying. I know it sounds shite, but genuinely one of my favourite meals. Would take it over a Sunday roast any day. A lamb roast is excellent, mind you.
Yeah but there's still way more bread in these dishes than I'm comfortable with. Why do you people wrap so many things in dough? Pastys, Beef Wellington, and Fish & Chips are all good, but any dough-wrapped dish beyond that is just plain excessive.
This isn't a diet plan for a British person, it's just the top foods. If you look at USA top foods it would be burgers, BBQ, pizza, chowder, etc. I don't think Americans are known for eating plates of vegetables but that doesn't mean you don't eat them.
I'd definitely shuffle a couple of these (like Toad in the Hole is much better then that) but on the whole, this is a lot closer to my tastes than I was expecting.
Because it's proper bacon, what you would call "Canadian" - thick, juicy rashers, two at least, freshly cooked, enveloped in buttered bread or, in Scotland, a fresh "morning roll", which has a slightly crispy top.
Having a sunday roast which has a yorkshire pudding in it alongside a yorkshire pudding in god tier is a bit weird. I wouldn't say a yorkshire pudding is god tier alone, I wouldn't sit and eat them without say, gravy, or the other trimmings.
Cauli cheese I would put in top tier - but I'd also want to have it with a sunday roast.
Pie mash and liquor should be its own concept, and regular pie and mash (e.g., steak and ale) should be in a higher tier by itself, served with gravy
A good scotch egg (like, freshly made) should be in top tier tbh. A super market one can go in low tier though.
Haggis is definitely top tier - can actually go in god tier alongside fish and chips, it's my usual order when I go to a Scottish chippy. (Spicy haggis supper, salt and sauce - preferably going half and half with someone who got fish)
I've gotta be honest, shepherd's/cottage pie above basically that entire mid tier is a pretty controversial take to me. I don't think I'd ever choose the pie when presented with it versus a chicken tikka or toad in the hole for example
Some of the low tier is being unfairly chastised, scotch eggs deserve better, especially the fancy warm runny ones you get in nice pubs. A good beef wellington can be a religious experience
Now finally, I have to take huge umbrage to black pudding, haggis & kippers being in crap tier. They are some of the regional breakfast highlights.
I will die on the hill that a fry up is incomplete without at least one piece of black pudding (ideally from Bury or Stornoway). Haggis is a bonus flavour bomb that's also welcome
... And kippers with buttery scrambled eggs on toast just slaps
The percentages all seem low, I would usually assume that everything except the bottom tier is 95%+ liked. I suppose there's not many vegetarian options here which must be a factor.
Personally I'd say yes to all the others but I don't think I've ever tried jellied eels. Anyone know if they're they any good?
There is some nuance to the quality of fish and chips. It is a takeaway food, therefore the 'quality' of it will never be as high as something you would get in a Michelin starred restaurant.
It's also a food which has a very high ceiling and a very low floor. Soggy batter, poor quality fish, rubbish chips are all going to drastically effect the enjoyment of them, and based on your comment I can only assume you've had shit fish and chips.
The quality difference between a sea side town chippy (or a Scottish one) vs. the average chippy in middle England is drastic. It's also all quite dependent on condiments. In East Scotland they have something called Chippy Sauce which is vinegar mixed with brown sauce.
All that to say: if you think fish and chips is bad, you don't know what you're talking about.
If the best food your country has is less than mediocre everywhere else in the world beside your one specific chippy in Scotland, I'm sorry but it's just bad food. I can just buy Indian food from a street corner and it'll fuck every time. Every time you buy the supposed peak of British cuisine NOT from that one shop old mate knows I'm her majesties ingerland it's ass.
The only reason I can fathom why British people, known for their self depreciating humour, cannot give an inch on their food being bad when they're more than happy to shit talk the railways and the weather is because they genuinely love slop. Just own it. Your food is garbage and it's a country of racoons.
This just reads like ragebait haha. I have had good Indian food and bad Indian food, I've had good pasta and bad pasta. If you think that every other cuisine but British is somehow always amazing and always better than British food then I don't know what to tell you. Go to a tourist trap in Italy and you will have trash that doesn't compare to even a British Italian chain. Buy panipuri from the wrong guy in India and not only will you shit yourself violently but it will taste like a spicy watery mess.
The only reason I can fathom why anybody would talk so much nonsense is for ragebait purposes. Going from "your cuisine isn't as good as India's" to "your food is garbage" is a pretty steep slope.
It is rage bait. BUT, most times when I have bad food it's better than bad British food. That's also putting aside the fact that british food is bad a lot more frequently (almost always I would say) than other foods.
I'm glad that you have such excellent food even when it's bad. That you somehow find yourself purveying everything that Britain has to offer - hating it - and also so much of other cuisines for comparison. Omniscient taste buds, I would wager.
Does the British have other food items that are named after slurs? All I know that in Hungary, a lot of chocolate variants of things had "negro-" attached to it for some weird reason. Not as bad if it was "n*gg*r-", but still extremely weird.
Except they were also often advertised with blackface caricatures, although to my memory none of them were KKK caricature levels of bad, just stereotypical African tribe stuff.
The real tragedy of black pepper is that no one eats it as fresh berries. I was in a hot area suitable for growing it and had the berries before they get dried into pepper corns and they were amazing! Spicy and a bit sweet and nothing like the dried version.
If only they weren't so hard to grow outside certain zones
Due to the influence of Tasting History (Max Miller), this year I bought long pepper for use in a few recipes (currently marinating some shawarma) - that's an interesting flavour, also a bit sweeter (dried) than (dried) round pepper.
130 Comments
Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 39 pts · 273d
It breaks my heart that apparently most of the British public have never had good black pudding.
ook@discuss.tchncs.de · 17 pts · 273d
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · 8 pts · 272d
Someone once convinced me to eat haggis in exchange for a free meal of haggis.
It was delicious!
lolrightythen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 272d
I mean, that picture of removeds doesnt look too bad either.
Bo7a@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 272d
They've probably never had unicorn meat either. Because neither of those things exist.
Tongue firmly in cheek here...
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 272d
It's basically like the Spanish blood sausage but using oats instead of rice right? I think that's a downgrade but from a 10 to a 9 so I still love it.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 3 pts · 272d
Not even that hard to find. Had a great black pudding in Dublin not too long ago as well in a fry up.
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 271d
Stornoway black pudding is the best.
FishFace@piefed.social · 33 pts · 272d
Ragebait
Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
I noticed it was a Yougov poll and then it made sense. I've lost all hope of the general population being able to make any reasonable decision. This might be the worst (best?) example yet.
echodot@feddit.uk · 24 pts · 273d
Yorkshire puddings are entirely all right but they're not top tier. That's like saying bread is top tier, it depends entirely on what you can buy it with. No one has just the Yorkshire pudding on a plate that's not a meal.
Welsh rarebit though is. That should be at the top of the list, if I ever go to a cafe and they have that on the menu I will 100% definitely have it every single time.
i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 273d
Yeah, why is Yorkshire Pudding at the top but Toad-in-the-hole is halfway down, when they are the same thing, except one is a proper meal and the other isn't?
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 272d
I've never had a good Yorkshire pudding. They are always disappointing. It's irrelevant how much of the rest of your sunday roast you eat with it, it always makes the rest of the roast taste worse than it would had you not wasted your time with the Yorkshire pudding.
Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 272d
Wow thems fighting words. But i'm thinking you've perhaps been eating the wrong ones? I've had some truly dire ones, its not like its a recipie impossible to mess up, but most of them i've had are really amazing. Crispy sides, slightly soft bottom is the ideal imo, but you also can't make up for bad ones just by the cooking, it's also what they're made of
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 272d
I've had a few Sunday roasts (in the UK) in my time, and been to good pubs and bad across a variety of English locales to have them, they are always shit. Have even tried homemade ones by someone who everyone says makes great Yorkshire puddings. Disappoint always ensued. It's always the same, a mostly tasteless piece of batter that takes more from a meal than it adds.
TwigletSparkle@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 271d
Or if you're super lazy like me:
https://www.auntbessies.co.uk/ranges/yorkshire-puddings/12-bake-at-home-yorkshires
For if you don't like rock hard yorkshires.
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 272d
They were traditionally served as a starter. I'd have mine with a bit of jam when I was young.
Rothe@piefed.social · 22 pts · 272d
Beef Wellington low tier? Who was asked for this poll?
TassieTosser@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 272d
Erin Patterson's husband.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk · 19 pts · 272d
This is madness. A full English (top tier) should have black pudding (apparently so-called bottom tier) on it. Madness, I tell you. And clearly a steak and kidney pudding is superior to a steak and kidney pie. It's all to cock!
ook@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 273d
PineRune@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 273d
No lettuce? No tomato? Just bacon between two slices of bread? If that makes it so high up I'd like to see them try an actual BLT.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 273d
The glory and purity of the bacon sandwich is ruined by this multicoloured, wet, squishy foodstuff.
Also, a bacon sandwich is a hot sandwich. BLT is a cold sandwich.
snooggums@piefed.world · 8 pts · 272d
A great BLT has warm bacon and cold vegetables.
9point6@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 272d
A BLT is a good, but entirely different thing to a bacon sandwich.
Bacon sarnies are served hot on a buttered roll or toast with red or brown sauce.
Sort of like the American grilled cheese, it ceases to be what it is as soon as you mess with any aspect of the formula.
anothermember@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 272d
You would ruin a bacon sandwich with lettuce and tomato; BLT is completely different.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 272d
I see your full English and raise you a full Scottish. Just like a full English but with haggis, fruit pudding, tattie scone, and guaranteed black pudding (English seems to only sometimes come with black pudding).
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 272d
IMO English should always come with black pudding and a cup of tea, if it doesn't have it, you're just eating a fry up
thelardboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 272d
And Lorne sausage!
Zombie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 272d
Oh aye! How could I forget. And if you're hanging a wee tinny of Bru to wash it down
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 272d
And my axe!
NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 272d
According to the logic of this incorrect chart, the two added "crap tier" items would pull the whole thing down to the middle.
RunjamboJenkin@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 272d
After visiting Scotland for the first time, I have to agree. The tatie scone is a stroke of genius!
canofcam@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
You're not wrong, it is definitely an improvement. Fruit pudding is such a weird juxtaposition, like a cinnamon tart, super sweet eaten alongside all of the salty.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 271d
Since I moved to the south east I have never seen a full english with black pudding and it saddens me. But I would rather make my own anyway as I can do it properly.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 272d
I prefer welsh breakfast, with the cockles. My cafe stopped doing it though.
blackn1ght@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 272d
God tier - I agree
Top tier - All low tier
Mid tier - Chicken Tikka Massala & Welsh Rarebit should be Top Tier (I had Welsh rarebit for the first time in the summer, regret not having it earlier)
Low Tier - Pork Pie & Steak & Kideny Pie belong in crap tier (replace kidney with ale and it becomes God Tier)
Crap Tier - black pudding should be top tier. Haggis mid tier.
Edit - Where's beans on toast??
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 272d
It never occured to my stupid Canadian brain that Chicken Tikka was actually British. But it makes sense in the same way that a lot of foods are "Canadian" because they were invented by immigrants adapting a dish to their new home.
JohnSmith@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 272d
Chicken Tikka is Indian. Chicken Tikka Masala is from Glasgow.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 272d
There is ongoing dispute around its origins.
British sources have a belief and can't objectively prove it was first made there:
Punjabi sources claim it had already been done at least a decade prior, also can't be proven.
Pondis@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 272d
I know this was made to get a rise out of the Brits, but putting the amazing Scotch Egg and Pork Pie in Low Tier is a hate crime
Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 271d
Thing is, while real pork pies and scotch eggs are great, lots of people might have only experienced the sad, dry, disappointments that are sold en masse in supermarkets. So in that context I can see why they rank so low.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 11 pts · 272d
TIL all my favorite foods are universally despised lmao
Offal is delicious, get on my level 🫀🫁🫘
argarath@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 271d
I'll start saying I'm Brazilian and have never gone to the British islands, but I feel like this is wrong just by beef Wellington being so low. I've had a homemade one and it was the best thing ever, and even before having it, it just sounds so delicious!!! Anyway besides that everything above the lowest tier are def on my list of things I'd love to try at least once, while some of the lowest tier just make me not want to try because of the idea of what bit of meat I'd be eating, I would give it a try since I do enjoy a bit of liver every know and then, and chicken hearts are really good (at least in the Brazilian BBQ style) so I could like boss sausages and other things
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 10 pts · 273d
I said eat my ass, not my whole body!
yakko@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 272d
The top tier - consisting only of steak and ale pie - was sadly cropped out.
Also, would vouch for a separate entries for "cold Scotch egg fully cooked" and "fresh Scotch egg with runny middle".
canofcam@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
Steak and ale pie is so underrated.
yakko@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 271d
Have you tried the W2Kitchen version? It's impossibly roasty and full of caramel flavour, browning on top of browning... If I talk more I'll have to go make it.
Ethalis@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 273d
After years hearing about how awful haggis is, I've been very pleasantly surprised when I finally got to taste it earlier this year. It tastes like mutton, which I love, and the oats give it a very pleasant texture. Definitely in my top tier of British food
JamieDub86@piefed.social · 5 pts · 272d
The taste is entirely dependent on how well haggis season goes.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 272d
With the rewilding efforts of the Scottish government there's been a recent uptick in haggis numbers though! The downside with that however is the little buggers have been breaking into industrial oat stores and gobbling up as much as they can, so the price of oats has increased.
Last I heard, the oat industry were discussing moving their storage locations to flatter ground so the haggis struggle to get to it with their mismatched legs.
uber_chicken@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 272d
No corned beef hash??
anothermember@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 272d
I don't know where to begin, it's all wrong. You could reverse it and it would be better.
JamieDub86@piefed.social · 2 pts · 272d
Its still arse about face though. Things are together that really shouldnt be.
anothermember@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 272d
Of course, not saying it would be right if it were reversed, just better.
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 272d
English foods .. or more commonly known as "Beige"
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 7 pts · 272d
Cottage pie and shepherd's pie have no business being that high and what the hell is black pudding doing down there?!
Agent641@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 272d
Also cottage pie and shepherds pie are the same image but flipped
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 7 pts · 272d
Only the UK would classify something "fish and chips" as the pinnacle of their cuisine.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 272d
Actually the Irish are super into it too. And Australia, though they fuck up the condiments by having aioli instead of salt and vinegar.
Portugal has a similar thing that is deep fried squid and chips. I was told I absolutely had to try it and it was bloody chewy.
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 3 pts · 271d
Fried fish is a big thing in Portugal and Galiza, in fact that's were the brits got the idea, but almost no one would rate it god tier among the local cuisine.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 272d
If the calamari is chewy it's overcooked. It should not be chewy
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 271d
That explains why we had to wait 30 minutes for our food then!
scholar@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 273d
I don't know where to start...
Steak and kidney pie is low tier but 'Pie and mash' is mid tier?
Kippers, Steak and kidney pudding, Black pudding; all crap?
Bump the Cottage and Shepherd's pies down and stick the hotpot, kippers, and snake and pygmy in top tier where they belong.
seitzer@piefed.social · 2 pts · 272d
guy@piefed.social · 6 pts · 272d
If this was the only food accessible to me I would also conquer the world. Desperately.
Sergio@piefed.social · 6 pts · 272d
idk why people say that about British food, this all looks warm and filling, it's basically comfort food. The worst thing about it is there are very few fruits and vegetables but presumably those are side dishes.
guy@piefed.social · 3 pts · 271d
My issue with this is that about half the food is pies or otherwise pieish. The rest is just, boring or bland.
Sergio@piefed.social · 1 pts · 271d
I mean... pies are very practical in cold climates. By "bland" I think you mean that they lack spices, which is true except for pepper, but that's like saying Japanese food is a problem because it doesn't have enough jalapeños.
"Boring" is subjective, tho I think we'd agree that to a modern palate it wouldn't be very exciting to only eat British food exclusively. That can be said of any country's cuisine tho.
canofcam@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d
me when I want updoots
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 272d
Nope, you’d love it too.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 273d
Shepard's pie pic is just Cottage pie pic mirrored lul.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 272d
Haggis is boss. S+k pudding and black pudding also don’t belong on the bottom tier - particularly as black pudding is a component of full English in the top tier!
I’d also swap Toad In The Hole with one the mince based pies above - the world needs to know about Toad In The Hole!
AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 271d
Cornish pasty and welsh rarebit are god tier. Ploughman's lunch and Lancashire hotpot are top tier. Yorkshire pudding is top tier. Haggis done right is a LOT better than you think (caveat, I was very very drunk when I tried it.)
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 272d
Haggis with neeps and tatties and a little gravy is amazing. So peppery and satisfying. I know it sounds shite, but genuinely one of my favourite meals. Would take it over a Sunday roast any day. A lamb roast is excellent, mind you.
TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 272d
The British make some very tasty food. Some very not tasty ones, but many tasty ones.
blackn1ght@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 272d
Is this a typo or are you trying to coin a term for Britain & Ireland? I feel like you might ruffle a few peoples feathers if it's the latter...
TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 272d
No, definitely a typo. I am prone to them.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 272d
Found Trump's Lemmy account
Lembot_0005@lemy.lol · 4 pts · 273d
You don't like liver and onions? Barbarians!
Wahots@pawb.social · 4 pts · 272d
People feel pretty strongly about removeds and peas
https://youtu.be/pVHbWHGVYaU
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 272d
“I’m here with the removed King…”
Wahots@pawb.social · 1 pts · 271d
Absolutely wild opener, as someone outside of the UK. That opening line knocked my socks off, haha.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 272d
So many brown dishes and hardly a green vegetable in sight.
And they call the Americans fat and unhealthy...
Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 272d
Most of them would either be eaten with a vegetable side or have vegetables in them...
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 270d
Yeah but there's still way more bread in these dishes than I'm comfortable with. Why do you people wrap so many things in dough? Pastys, Beef Wellington, and Fish & Chips are all good, but any dough-wrapped dish beyond that is just plain excessive.
Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 269d
I think most cultures have dough-wrapped dishes. It's not exclusively a British thing...
Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 269d
Yes but they don't make all of them their top foods like the UK does.
canofcam@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
This isn't a diet plan for a British person, it's just the top foods. If you look at USA top foods it would be burgers, BBQ, pizza, chowder, etc. I don't think Americans are known for eating plates of vegetables but that doesn't mean you don't eat them.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 273d
I'd definitely shuffle a couple of these (like Toad in the Hole is much better then that) but on the whole, this is a lot closer to my tastes than I was expecting.
ICCrawler@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 272d
I have never heard of a scotch egg, so I looked it up, and my god that sounds like wonderful comfort food. How the hell could that be low tier.
Also as much as I like bacon how tf is putting it plain between bread god tier. At least make it a damn BLT.
Psaldorn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 272d
Ask the ones I've had in recent years have had hard bits in the crumb coating which really rings the texture. It cheap gristly sausage meat.
A well made I've it's great.
Same for fggts in gravy.
Done people swear by black pudding/blood sausage.
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 271d
Because it's proper bacon, what you would call "Canadian" - thick, juicy rashers, two at least, freshly cooked, enveloped in buttered bread or, in Scotland, a fresh "morning roll", which has a slightly crispy top.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 272d
Haggis belongs in top tier.
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 271d
Haggis in the crap tier and Yorkshire pudding in the top tier? Yeah, right 🤦
Twongo@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 271d
You forgot cheese & pickle sandwiches :3 those deserve a high spot
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · 3 pts · 272d
Literally saved for every day inspiration. I need more British cuisine in my life.
canofcam@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
Having a sunday roast which has a yorkshire pudding in it alongside a yorkshire pudding in god tier is a bit weird. I wouldn't say a yorkshire pudding is god tier alone, I wouldn't sit and eat them without say, gravy, or the other trimmings.
Cauli cheese I would put in top tier - but I'd also want to have it with a sunday roast.
Pie mash and liquor should be its own concept, and regular pie and mash (e.g., steak and ale) should be in a higher tier by itself, served with gravy
A good scotch egg (like, freshly made) should be in top tier tbh. A super market one can go in low tier though.
Haggis is definitely top tier - can actually go in god tier alongside fish and chips, it's my usual order when I go to a Scottish chippy. (Spicy haggis supper, salt and sauce - preferably going half and half with someone who got fish)
Can't say I massively disagree with the rest.
9point6@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 272d
I've gotta be honest, shepherd's/cottage pie above basically that entire mid tier is a pretty controversial take to me. I don't think I'd ever choose the pie when presented with it versus a chicken tikka or toad in the hole for example
Some of the low tier is being unfairly chastised, scotch eggs deserve better, especially the fancy warm runny ones you get in nice pubs. A good beef wellington can be a religious experience
Now finally, I have to take huge umbrage to black pudding, haggis & kippers being in crap tier. They are some of the regional breakfast highlights.
I will die on the hill that a fry up is incomplete without at least one piece of black pudding (ideally from Bury or Stornoway). Haggis is a bonus flavour bomb that's also welcome
... And kippers with buttery scrambled eggs on toast just slaps
jaykrown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
I created a STAR voting poll with the top 9 in the image. Anyone can vote!
https://masl.dev/star-voting/vote/d959b78e-6e3f-4aca-a093-9b2312ae84e4
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 272d
Yorkies on top. That's all that matters, 10/10
TORFdot0@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
Fish and Chips and Sunday Roast look good but 2 turds over mashed potatoes being high tier is not a good look for British cuisine
ns1@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 272d
The percentages all seem low, I would usually assume that everything except the bottom tier is 95%+ liked. I suppose there's not many vegetarian options here which must be a factor.
Personally I'd say yes to all the others but I don't think I've ever tried jellied eels. Anyone know if they're they any good?
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 272d
I love jellied eels and I will die on that hill.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 271d
Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d
florge@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 272d
Fish and chips are so overrated.
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 272d
I agree, I never buy them. There's far better dirty food available
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 271d
Is this a specific exported recipe from India for the British Palate?
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 271d
If I understand it, it's like Chicken Parmesan.
Chicken Pamesan is "Italian food" invented in New York City.
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
It is how British people defend their food.
Aliktren@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d
Jellied eels can do one but every other crap tier is very wrong.
Revan343@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 272d
Where does a toast sandwich fit on this chart?
Less sarcastically, I see no mention of Marmite
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 272d
Toast in more bread sounds barbaric.
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 271d
It's a thing that originated as a Struggle Meal to be fair
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 271d
I’d certainly struggle to eat that.
Revan343@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 271d
I hear it tastes like poverty
Fleur_@lemmynsfw.com · 0 pts · 272d
British people always claiming their food isn't that bad but If it literally doesn't get better than fish and chips, your food must be awful.
canofcam@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 271d
There is some nuance to the quality of fish and chips. It is a takeaway food, therefore the 'quality' of it will never be as high as something you would get in a Michelin starred restaurant.
It's also a food which has a very high ceiling and a very low floor. Soggy batter, poor quality fish, rubbish chips are all going to drastically effect the enjoyment of them, and based on your comment I can only assume you've had shit fish and chips.
The quality difference between a sea side town chippy (or a Scottish one) vs. the average chippy in middle England is drastic. It's also all quite dependent on condiments. In East Scotland they have something called Chippy Sauce which is vinegar mixed with brown sauce.
All that to say: if you think fish and chips is bad, you don't know what you're talking about.
Fleur_@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 271d
If the best food your country has is less than mediocre everywhere else in the world beside your one specific chippy in Scotland, I'm sorry but it's just bad food. I can just buy Indian food from a street corner and it'll fuck every time. Every time you buy the supposed peak of British cuisine NOT from that one shop old mate knows I'm her majesties ingerland it's ass.
The only reason I can fathom why British people, known for their self depreciating humour, cannot give an inch on their food being bad when they're more than happy to shit talk the railways and the weather is because they genuinely love slop. Just own it. Your food is garbage and it's a country of racoons.
canofcam@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d
This just reads like ragebait haha. I have had good Indian food and bad Indian food, I've had good pasta and bad pasta. If you think that every other cuisine but British is somehow always amazing and always better than British food then I don't know what to tell you. Go to a tourist trap in Italy and you will have trash that doesn't compare to even a British Italian chain. Buy panipuri from the wrong guy in India and not only will you shit yourself violently but it will taste like a spicy watery mess.
The only reason I can fathom why anybody would talk so much nonsense is for ragebait purposes. Going from "your cuisine isn't as good as India's" to "your food is garbage" is a pretty steep slope.
Fleur_@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 271d
It is rage bait. BUT, most times when I have bad food it's better than bad British food. That's also putting aside the fact that british food is bad a lot more frequently (almost always I would say) than other foods.
canofcam@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 271d
I'm glad that you have such excellent food even when it's bad. That you somehow find yourself purveying everything that Britain has to offer - hating it - and also so much of other cuisines for comparison. Omniscient taste buds, I would wager.
beeng@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 271d
You mustn't have added enough salt and vinegar to yours if you think that.
Fleur_@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 271d
Brother those are literally the two easiest and least interesting ways of seasoning a fish.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 272d
Does the British have other food items that are named after slurs? All I know that in Hungary, a lot of chocolate variants of things had "negro-" attached to it for some weird reason. Not as bad if it was "n*gg*r-", but still extremely weird.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 272d
Weird reason you say?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 272d
Except they were also often advertised with blackface caricatures, although to my memory none of them were KKK caricature levels of bad, just stereotypical African tribe stuff.
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 271d
You didn't explain that in your first post though, you were just ignorant that negro means black in different languages
shalafi@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 272d
The etymology came before the racism.
j4k3@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 273d
cloudless@piefed.social · -3 pts · 273d
FishFace@piefed.social · 9 pts · 272d
Look at the ingredients of those and you will find plenty of spices.
Black pepper does not grow in north-western Europe, you know - the fact that you forgot it's a spice is testament to how well the spice trade worked.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 272d
The real tragedy of black pepper is that no one eats it as fresh berries. I was in a hot area suitable for growing it and had the berries before they get dried into pepper corns and they were amazing! Spicy and a bit sweet and nothing like the dried version.
If only they weren't so hard to grow outside certain zones
FishFace@piefed.social · 3 pts · 272d
Interesting!
Due to the influence of Tasting History (Max Miller), this year I bought long pepper for use in a few recipes (currently marinating some shawarma) - that's an interesting flavour, also a bit sweeter (dried) than (dried) round pepper.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 272d
Wait until this poor sod discovers Irish food....