Devastating Report Details How Underage Homeless Girl Allegedly Had Sex With Matt Gaetz For Money to Buy Braces

I just assumed that he'd always been rapng children.

Let's be fair. Some of his voters are already convicted sex offenders and are no longer eligible to vote.

I'm hoping he gets SLAMMED and then GRILLED. That'll show 'em.

As normal as a 15 year old dating a 39 year old then becoming President of France. Normal.

For once I would like to see the powerful people feel devastated

Here have this one they are together in mine

It's to get the hell out of middle of nowhere dead end towns. At least that was the draw when I was in, as well as my cousins, and father.

I really do miss Tricare. Not worth being married though. I decided I’ll just die lol.

if you yourself need the medical care, you don't get in.

That's nice, good job muddying the waters.

In how many of those other countries are minors tempted to perform sexual acts on government officials to receive said shitty dental care?

Having teeth is a luxury for the rich.

Every job involves selling your body to the highest bidder. Your attitude only serves to harm people in the sex industry.

Sex work is legitimate work. It's only exploitative and dangerous because it's (mostly) illegal, not the other way around.

Sex trafficking, OTOH, is absolutely vile. It's basically sexual slavery. But it wouldn't happen if sex work was legalized and regulated!

EDIT: this guy thinks AI child pr0n is "just trolling". Fucking ewww

What's disgusting is that this girl was forced to do it due to her circumstances.

Infidelity does demonstrate a lack of morals that imo should matter to the electorate. If someone is single or in an open relationship, sure. Otherwise, if someone is willing to betray their spouse, how can we expect them to respect us, a bunch of strangers?

“Hes literally reading this, he actually wrote this out”

Trump isn't nearly as charming or as honest as this guy. Also the sex appears to be consensual among adults. Trump is such a fucking pedo it isn't funny.

If that doesn't appeal to you then you can work in a restaurant like the one Quiet and her brother work in Twisted Metal.

I’d imagine being underaged and unable to consent makes it rape

Setting aside that statutory rape is still rape.... sex work for 17-year olds has a place? WTF...

^*ladies and gentlemen, the result of the rape culture we live in.

A powerful, older man took advantage of a young, desperate woman, but because he did not physically assault her, it’s not rape.

Rape is about POWER, not sex.

I know you’re getting down voted to oblivion but I know what idea you’re trying to get across. She was underage so at the very least it was statutory. But even if she wasn’t underage it was coerced and she was being manipulated to do something she likely didn’t want to do to pay for something she desperately needed. Now if she wasn’t underage it technically still was prostitution but significantly different than a rape if it was indeed consensual but who knows.

Illegal or not it was wrong and these douchebags can get away with anything which boils my backside.

I mean, this is a textbook example of statutory rape. He paid an underage girl $400 to show up to a party with the implication of sex, gave her cocaine and ecstasy, and then had sex with her. The state recognizes that rape can occur even if the victim was otherwise willing. The “statutory” part of statutory rape means the prosecutor is required by statute to assume a rape occurred, even if the victim does not agree with the prosecution.

The state acknowledges that there are circumstances where a reasonable person would determine that a victim wasn’t capable of consenting. To be able to prosecute these cases, the state passes statutes to assign a penalty on the assaulter for statutory rape. This statute allows the prosecution to charge for rape, even if the victim was enthusiastically consenting and/or does not feel like they have been assaulted.

For example, if a cop detains someone, then has sex with them in the back of their cruiser. A reasonable state would recognize the unfair power dynamic in this situation, and a reasonable jury member would acknowledge that the detainee was under duress when the sex occurred. Even if the detainee was enthusiastic and willing, they were legally unable to consent because of the power dynamic that was present during the sex. There’s no way of factually proving if the detainee was/is actually willing, or just playing along because the cop held an inordinate amount of power over them. And thus a reasonable state would assume the latter, and statutorily assign a penalty to the person who held the power (the cop, in this example). And this statutory penalty would be enforced by prosecuting the cop for statutory rape.

And “being too young” is one of the biggest and most (in)famous reasons that someone can’t consent. The state sets an age limit on when children can begin consenting to sex with adults. Otherwise willing children below that age are assumed to be groomed (like a 30 year old “dating” a 15 year old) or under some other kind of unfair power dynamic.

If you’re trying to say that it’s unfair that Gaetz was tricked into sex with a minor, that’s a separate discussion. He took that risk when he knowingly paid a homeless person for sex. He knew there was an inherent power imbalance. If he wanted to avoid the power imbalance, he could have used a legal brothel that has a hiring and vetting process designed to preclude underage children from being hired. Hell, he could have worked as a lawmaker to decriminalize sex work and make brothels legal in his area. He could have ensured that people (including himself) didn’t feel the need to pay streetwalkers for sex, because legal brothels were accessible.

But he didn’t do that. He sought out a sex worker who looked young, fully knowing and accepting that there were no systems in place to stop her from lying about her age, and he was willing to take on the risk of statutory rape by choosing to sleep with her.

She legally couldn't consent. That's statutory rape

Uh, this is the definition of statutory rape:

Statutory rape is the crime of sex with a minor when the sex is agreed to by both parties, not forced.

So... no.. it's still rape.

Please... please I beg of you, do not try to argue that 17 is basically 18. Please. I have had too much of pedophile talk recently.

Daaaamn, I have never seen anyone get NO upvotes at all on Lemmy

"If you're upper-middle class, get in that ass"

Megyn Kelly*

This is it. I don't think they have particular respect for the offspring of other wealthy elites either, they just know there is power and money protecting/ defending the children of the elites if anything happens to them. These people don't have respect for anything but themselves. They've just gotten where they are by having a keen instinct for self-interest and preservation.

I meant, hold up. There is no better example of how depriving people of the rights to basic necessities exposes the most vulnerable to exploitation.

Lisa needs braces

Is there any country that doesn't work like that?

If you pay for sex you’re a sleazeball.

Do you mind giving a little more feedback on why you feel that way?

Taken at face value, as stated, it sounds like you're 100% against prostitution and making a value judgement against people who hire sex workers.

Keep in mind, I have never paid for sex, and I'm not coming at you because of your opinion. Just curious, is all, since I'm more of the opinion that what consenting adults do in their own privacy is their own business as long as it's not hurting anybody. And I do understand that a lot of times, sex workers are being exploited. But then I also think about situations like the disabled guy (IIRC it was something terminal) who hired sex workers because he felt he couldn't/wouldn't find a willing partner otherwise due to the circumstances of his disability. Plus, I'm a bit biased, as I lived with a sex worker as a roommate for a couple of years, and while nobody's perfect, he was a much nicer and better person that a lot of random folks I know.

Agreed, but that is just the internet mob mentality.

i’m not defending him in any way shape or form

He has a history with underage girls.

He has enough history that we can judge him for all of it. We don't need to abandon integrity & accuracy. We shouldn't fault others for defending the truth. We should fault ourselves for failing to respect it.

You can’t keep claiming ignorance when it keeps happening.

They weren't.

if anyone’s a victim here, it’s clearly gaetz… he was defrauded by this imposter….
surely he wasn’t seeking out the youngest looking girls on the website or anything….
poor guy

oh go find someone else to pretend like they’re on gaetz’s side… you can get super mad at them and yell at them while having an imaginary argument where they’re suddenly a Matt Gaetz sympathizer….

maybe go punch a pillow or something, i’m not the one you’re upset with.

he’s a horrible person, this is one of the many reasons why…
he didn’t buy her braces for sex.
he had sex with an underage girl, for money, gave her drugs….
her being homeless or needing dental care was far from his mind, i’m sure….

there’s a difference between something being wrong and illegal, and something being much more wrong and much more illegal….
legally i don’t think “but i thought she was 18” counts. not that he was prosecuted anyways.
….
i don’t know who’s defending him, personally i’m just talking about exaggerated headlines and accuracy.
for all i know, he knew she was 17 and required her to make a profile saying she was 18 and pretend to meet him through there so he can have plausible deniability…. actually i’d say that more likely, but i don’t know

i still think a lot of it is vote manipulation.
if leftist online spaces always scream at rational discussion and promote irrational ones, it’ll seem like that’s how they all are and drive them away.
irl leftists are way way more considerate and go out of their way to respect other people….
they love debating minutiae….
but with 10 bots per human these places will always get fucked with like this.

one dead giveaway is i’ll have -22 votes but the highest vote count is 10….
and with the way Lemmy sorts comments, once i hit -5 it’s collapsed and buried at the bottom… so if that were real, way way more people are skipping every other comment and just going to the bottom to downvote people.
or only downvoting and not upvoting a single comment….

i mean, chuds come in and try to troll and they don’t get downvoted like someone reasonably discussing a couple of points….