Let us not forget the I can't poop for three days guy. That was just after the reddit api fiasco and helped cement Lemmy's capacity for collective comedy.
Its depressing that I'm living through another golden age... Last time it was reddit, before that it was msn messenger. I can't even remember what was before that. Probably chisels and slabs of rock.
During the initial reddit migration, Lemmy/Kbin had a larger active userbase than it does now. It fell off a bit after a little while, though its slowly creeping back up there with a more committed community.
But basically there were more users to upvote beans at that point
The transition away from "the bad place" has done me a lot of good. I'd only been a lurker and occasionally commented prior. Finding the fediverse Trek community, at least as I initially saw it (old Risa), encouraged me to engage in what has now become a much loved hobby.
I designed and bought a jeans wrap for my PlayStation controllers because I thought it would be funny for a meme post. They took forever to arrive, looked absolutely awful, and didn’t stay on.
Lesson learned, don’t buy those sketchy upload a picture controller wraps.
Yeah, it's sort of an odd part of the threadiverse. Every instance calculates based on what they're notified of which means the age of the server along with what other instances it's federated with impacts the count
The federation of votes makes sense for potentially mitigating bad actor instances with false votes. Like if a new instance spun up and falsified their votes it could be negated easily by defederating.
Having differing votes is like having differing communities based on subscriptions. Just a necessary side effect of picking and choosing what gets shared when federated.
Exactly. If we son't have anything to add besides what the upvote/downvote is already saying, we'd get endless "Same", "This", and "No" types of comments.
because we don't get enough social interaction and we're desperate to at least have some people read a thing we said online, and ideally actually reply to it
People keep saying “lemmy is dying Bluesky is dying” but maybe it’s the fact that the people who migrated to those sites were already burned on social media and know better than to start arguments on the internet.
“What a refreshing opportunity to boost engagement by confidently telling someone they’re wrong! Thank you for your bold and thought-provoking contribution — your feedback is not only valid, it’s downright essential for the thriving digital ecosystem we all pretend to enjoy. Let’s collaboratively acknowledge that OP is wrong, together.”
It's well-known that there are levels of engagement with content, with fewer people doing the more involved things. Most people just scroll past everything. Single digits percentage upvote posts. Fewer go into the comments, and again maybe 10% of those participate in comments. The ratio of every level is different on different platforms, but it's there.
For platforms with pretty quick flow like Reddit and Lemmy, the ratio naturally falls off hard. Something like Hacker News rewards slower and more thoughtful engagement with content and threads, so I'd guess they have a larger share of active commenters — although OTOH you don't quite want to show up with mindless predictable comments like prevalent here.
Prior to bots, Reddit observed on many occasions the 90% rule:
90% of users just scrolled
Of the ones remaining, 90% only voted
Of the ones remaining, only 90% left comments
And finally, 90% of those left never posted.
So, it's expected to have 10x more votes than comments. Also I've never seen a post with more than like 1500 votes lol
My comments tend to get way more engagement here than on reddit. People are just friendlier. When I'm funny, they make me feel like the man. On reddit you had to piggy-back on top comments just to get any hits, and half of them were just confrontational for no good reason.
It's also because Lemmy's sorting algorithms are much better. On Reddit, if you're more than 6 hours late to a post, comments won't get any interaction.
You can tell Lemmy is written by socialists, with upvotes being much more evenly distributed and less focused on the top 5% going viral.
on reddit there was a lot of bot generated commentary. like yes, bots posting comments but also users who wouldn't have commented getting pulled into a "discussion" by a bot comment.
Less bots maybe? I've noticed this too and it triggers something in me because on reddit that was always a red flag of upvote bots or whatever cheating they used. I don't think people use those here, but there's also no bots that comment garbage.
Well, bots exist here also as far as I know, but, agree, not in the enormous amounts as on Reddit. And here is no karma farming so people have less need to get approval. Also, I suppose, that author of this post meant posts that do not even require comments like memes.
Can't speak for everyone but on my phone the a.lemmy.world website is unusable for replies. Half the reply box is covered by a control with a tempting x that closes the entire post and loses my reply. The submit button is hidden under the keyboard. When I finish typing I can hit the check mark above the keyboard which causes the website to zoom to 200% where upon I must find a neutral spot to double click somewhere and look for the post button, otherwise some nerd won't be able to invalidate my experience.
If you only look at posts with the most upvotes, that's what you get. If you look at posts with the most comments, you'll see a completely different ratio.
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Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 105 pts · 264d
You mean one thousand upvotes and a comment? Lol I think the most upvote I have ever seen on a post was like 12k.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 100 pts · 264d
Apparently, it's a little over 7k and it's about beans. I heard that lemmy will upvote anything. This is literally just a can of fucking beans
expatriado@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 264d
that post happened during the time Lemmy had the most active users, so there is that
owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 264d
Also during the time Lemmy was most excited about beans. One of the golden ages, to be sure.
Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 263d
There was also the can't poop guy
ArrrborDAY@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 263d
Let us not forget the I can't poop for three days guy. That was just after the reddit api fiasco and helped cement Lemmy's capacity for collective comedy.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d
That guy is the lemmy version of "it's a cylinder"
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 264d
Its depressing that I'm living through another golden age... Last time it was reddit, before that it was msn messenger. I can't even remember what was before that. Probably chisels and slabs of rock.
bryndos@fedia.io · 3 pts · 262d
Before lemmy became a has-been.
rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 264d
What the fuck are you talking about, Jesse?
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 33 pts · 264d
During the initial reddit migration, Lemmy/Kbin had a larger active userbase than it does now. It fell off a bit after a little while, though its slowly creeping back up there with a more committed community.
But basically there were more users to upvote beans at that point
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 264d
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 264d
Same lol. Here since the 'beginning'
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 264d
It's been a long road...
The transition away from "the bad place" has done me a lot of good. I'd only been a lurker and occasionally commented prior. Finding the fediverse Trek community, at least as I initially saw it (old Risa), encouraged me to engage in what has now become a much loved hobby.
karashta@piefed.social · 5 pts · 263d
Man, I wish the dev of Kbin had let people help him. It was, by far, my favorite instance and style of threadiverse.
No, I don't really find Mbin the same, sadly.
Just lamenting what was haha
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 264d
Is that what kicked off the beans era? That was some good times.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 264d
Don't forget the Jeans era
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 264d
I designed and bought a jeans wrap for my PlayStation controllers because I thought it would be funny for a meme post. They took forever to arrive, looked absolutely awful, and didn’t stay on.
Lesson learned, don’t buy those sketchy upload a picture controller wraps.
Don’t remind me of the jeans era.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 263d
Link to post or fake
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 263d
I deleted my older accounts, and I didn’t post it because it looked really stupid
This was the design, I couldn’t find photos of the actual wrapped controller. It covered the black part of the controller.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 263d
My jenes entering the jean pool
protist@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 264d
I see the same, top all time post with 8112 upvotes
Banana@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 264d
I wonder if it has anything to do with what instances your instance is federated with
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 10 pts · 264d
That is exactly what it has to do with
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 264d
Do instances count votes differently or separately? I don't even know.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 16 pts · 264d
Yeah, it's sort of an odd part of the threadiverse. Every instance calculates based on what they're notified of which means the age of the server along with what other instances it's federated with impacts the count
snooggums@piefed.world · 2 pts · 263d
The federation of votes makes sense for potentially mitigating bad actor instances with false votes. Like if a new instance spun up and falsified their votes it could be negated easily by defederating.
Having differing votes is like having differing communities based on subscriptions. Just a necessary side effect of picking and choosing what gets shared when federated.
protist@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 264d
Good question. How many upvotes does it have on your end?
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 264d
7.135
MalMen@masto.pt · 1 pts · 263d
@pelespirit @protist im watching from Mastodon and it has zero on my instance
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 263d
Do all the posts from lemmy show as zero?
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
It's now over 9K. Nice job.
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 86 pts · 264d
Why do we need to comment on everything? Some things I just agree/like, no comment
JargonWagon@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 263d
Exactly. If we son't have anything to add besides what the upvote/downvote is already saying, we'd get endless "Same", "This", and "No" types of comments.
elvith@feddit.org · 17 pts · 263d
This!
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 16 pts · 263d
Same
bampop@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 263d
^ updooted
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 263d
So true
zurohki@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 263d
+1
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 263d
yup
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 263d
+1
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 260d
because we don't get enough social interaction and we're desperate to at least have some people read a thing we said online, and ideally actually reply to it
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 260d
well shit thats sad
b_tr3e@feddit.org · -4 pts · 263d
Because we wish you to communicate.
It's for your own best.
B-TR3E the Enlightened,
Spiritual Leader of the Virtual Worlds
TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works · 43 pts · 263d
People keep saying “lemmy is dying Bluesky is dying” but maybe it’s the fact that the people who migrated to those sites were already burned on social media and know better than to start arguments on the internet.
FuCensorship@lemmy.today · 36 pts · 263d
How many times you guys start writing a comment and after some words just say:
Fuck it...
App: Are you sure? > Discard
?
jumjummy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 263d
I’m waiting for an LLM integrated Lemmy app that will let me click a button like “OP is wrong, write me a reply telling them so”
/s
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 263d
jumjummy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 263d
Bonus points for the em dash!
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d
Aaaaagggghhhh
Surp@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 263d
Yes
Prok@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 263d
I was gonna say "90% of the time" but fuck it... Discard...
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 263d
no I dont
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 263d
Yes you do.
cashsky@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 263d
Stay out of this. This is between me and OP
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 262d
But mom!
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 262d
It's my turn to play on the Xbox!
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 260d
no it isn't
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 263d
I just state truths its all the rest of you that are wrong.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 262d
I feel lemmy is growing, 2 years ago I would run out of stuff, a year ago is would see the same things
Now there's comments everywhere and i never see the end of my feed.
I just can't get the two communities I want to grow up and going.
That's partly my fault being to busy to try make it work.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 262d
This. And I want quality comments not rehashed memes or jokes.
I get a lot of thought provoking replies in Lemmy.
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 263d
Less controversial comments that compel people to respond and argue with?
Larger portion of mature people on lemmy that can't be bothered with bait?
Vote button is easy.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 264d
Commenting draws attention to yourself, which invites scrutiny and judgement. An upvote is (mostly) anonymous.
Also, upvotes take way less effort, always going to be more of those (unless a fight breaks out in the comments or something)
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 263d
Probably a "good post, nothing to add" case.
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 263d
Good post, nothing to add.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 263d
The worst is that one of those comments is me, adding nothing to the conversation saying "same bro lmao"
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 263d
Same dude, lmao.
Supermikea@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 263d
Me too dude, lol.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 262d
Same bro lmao
swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 263d
same bro lmao
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 262d
Same bro lmao
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 263d
It's well-known that there are levels of engagement with content, with fewer people doing the more involved things. Most people just scroll past everything. Single digits percentage upvote posts. Fewer go into the comments, and again maybe 10% of those participate in comments. The ratio of every level is different on different platforms, but it's there.
For platforms with pretty quick flow like Reddit and Lemmy, the ratio naturally falls off hard. Something like Hacker News rewards slower and more thoughtful engagement with content and threads, so I'd guess they have a larger share of active commenters — although OTOH you don't quite want to show up with mindless predictable comments like prevalent here.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 263d
Prior to bots, Reddit observed on many occasions the 90% rule:
90% of users just scrolled
Of the ones remaining, 90% only voted
Of the ones remaining, only 90% left comments
And finally, 90% of those left never posted.
So, it's expected to have 10x more votes than comments. Also I've never seen a post with more than like 1500 votes lol
damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 264d
Coz we a lazy bunch. Deal with it.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 263d
Gen X here, can confirm
snooggums@piefed.world · 2 pts · 263d
I thought we were supposed to say we are efficient, not lazy.
ArrrborDAY@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 263d
Whatever
Lorax@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 263d
For real
worhui@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d
That's a funny way to say that this place is not full of bots.
Senseless@feddit.org · 23 pts · 263d
No need to add anything if it's already perfect.
Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 262d
My comments tend to get way more engagement here than on reddit. People are just friendlier. When I'm funny, they make me feel like the man. On reddit you had to piggy-back on top comments just to get any hits, and half of them were just confrontational for no good reason.
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 262d
It's also because Lemmy's sorting algorithms are much better. On Reddit, if you're more than 6 hours late to a post, comments won't get any interaction.
You can tell Lemmy is written by socialists, with upvotes being much more evenly distributed and less focused on the top 5% going viral.
notsure@fedia.io · 16 pts · 263d
...perhaps the introverts are smarter than the fucks on reddit?..
zurohki@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 263d
Reddit has more bots arguing back and forth to encourage humans to engage.
notsure@fedia.io · 3 pts · 263d
...i stand by my comment...
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 263d
Or simply here exist more lazy people. 🙃
Senseless@feddit.org · 5 pts · 263d
Lazyenergy efficient.Bazell@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 263d
Valid point.
notsure@fedia.io · 1 pts · 263d
...por que no los dos?..
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 263d
Sounds totally valid.
ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 263d
on reddit there was a lot of bot generated commentary. like yes, bots posting comments but also users who wouldn't have commented getting pulled into a "discussion" by a bot comment.
ynthrepic@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 264d
No comment needed if it's that good.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 264d
Share an example or two?
dan69@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 263d
Show me show me
garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 263d
Less bots maybe? I've noticed this too and it triggers something in me because on reddit that was always a red flag of upvote bots or whatever cheating they used. I don't think people use those here, but there's also no bots that comment garbage.
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 263d
Well, bots exist here also as far as I know, but, agree, not in the enormous amounts as on Reddit. And here is no karma farming so people have less need to get approval. Also, I suppose, that author of this post meant posts that do not even require comments like memes.
theedqueen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 263d
I was thinking probably fewer bots too
juliebean@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 263d
i don't think this is, or ever has been, a thing.
timeghost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 262d
Can't speak for everyone but on my phone the a.lemmy.world website is unusable for replies. Half the reply box is covered by a control with a tempting x that closes the entire post and loses my reply. The submit button is hidden under the keyboard. When I finish typing I can hit the check mark above the keyboard which causes the website to zoom to 200% where upon I must find a neutral spot to double click somewhere and look for the post button, otherwise some nerd won't be able to invalidate my experience.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 6 pts · 262d
As someone who uses Sync. I don't have this problem. Ever.
TRock@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 262d
Didn't the developers of sync do a take the money and run?
Rooster326@programming.dev · 1 pts · 262d
Did they? Does anyone have a read of that?
The app is working and I've been testing it since Reddit died
Noblesavage@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
No idea about the drama, but the Sync app, which I also use, hasn't got an update since March 26, 2024 according to the Play Store.
It feels like it is largely abandonware at this point. I'm just waiting for it to break before I find something else.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 263d
That's a great picture of famous crapper poop logg
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 263d
Comment
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 263d
cat
angrystego@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 263d
Thank you. Cat back to you.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 263d
AAAWWEEEEE THE FOOTSIES!!!!!
softwarist@programming.dev · 3 pts · 262d
Missed opportunity to say "right back cat-cha"
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 4 pts · 263d
Don't sort by top if you want a high comment/upvote ratio. There are very good posts in the "Active" section with lots of upvotes.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d
I comment 2
jxk@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 263d
If you only look at posts with the most upvotes, that's what you get. If you look at posts with the most comments, you'll see a completely different ratio.