It's an internet connected appliance with a screen, made by samsung. If you follow the right kinds of news, that combination should send shivers down your spine.
Edit: l'll just say I don't think the question was so dumb it should downvoted to hell.
Because we've seen 30 years of the Web? Because streets used to be (and some sill are) nothing but a place to put up billboards and ads? Because corporations are led by psychopaths and they care absolutely nothing about your well-being or personal health in your home?
OF COURSE if they can put an ad in your kitchen they'll by all means put an ad in your kitchen. It's literally the goal of giving out brochures and pamphlets of ads: to make you take the ads into your home. Why are there brand names on everything? It's advertising all the way down. Giving them an Internet-connecting screen they control in your kitchen is just asking for ads to be displayed in your private space.
Because Samsung has done this to literally every one of their other products, even ones without screens, and only apps, like Samsung SmartThings and their washers and dryers.
What else would the screen be for? Even if there was another valid reason, why wouldn't they put ads on it? It's easy profit or unused real estate in their eyes.
They make fridges, which typically sit in a room until it decides to die. Shareholders got pissy the enormous bill for ecs doesn't have the correct permissions
how about this, you only get 100 closing/opening of the fridge door a month. the freezer will cost you extra to open and close. it will start charging an "overstuff fee, if the vent/ fridge gets clogged with food.
Ad supported fridge would not be awful if you get it for free or very low price. I wouldn't buy it but for some lower income people could be a good alternative.
it will become like many appliances... You want a dumb tv? Possible, but it will cost you more than a smart one. You want a dumb fridge? Fine, but soon it will cost you more than a 'smart' one you can't even turn on without making an account somewhere and registering your email and phone
The Lego of the automotive world, incredibly reliable, fantastic for off-roading, the chassis and shocks placement is what kicked off custom shocks as a thing, etc.
It was the Jeep (that wasn't a military design) that defined the brand. Which Jeep spent all its time after just ruining.
The steering was definitely very responsive for its time, though I'd personally call it a plus. Especially when it came to offroading, it was a huge benefit to get over hazards.
If it automatically scanned everything you put inside, it could tell you what ingredients you had if you were planning a recipe. If you were at the store you could know what to buy. It could warn you before something reached its expiry date, or remind you what leftovers were still uneaten. Depending on how much you trusted it, it could learn what you always buy, and add them to your shopping list when you were running low, or even actually order them.
In theory this could reduce food spoilage and wastage, and could save you money in the long term. It requires trust though. Samsung is obviously mistreating users by showing them ads. But, it could be much worse. The fridge could order food that the user didn't need, or if it ordered food Samsung could strike a deal with one company and always prefer their brands even when there were cheaper options. And, of course, Samsung could sell your buying habits to Google and Meta who would use it to more effectively target you with ads. Or, Samsung could cut a deal with insurance companies to tell them which users had unhealthy eating habits so the insurance company could deny coverage or hike rates.
The big issue here is section 1201 of the DMCA. If that didn't exist, someone could open up a business installing a new, custom, privacy-centric OS on people's fridges. But, with section 1201 in place, that's illegal and you could be thrown in jail for performing that service. Even outside the US laws like that exist because the US insisted on them on condition that otherwise the US would force those countries to pay high tariffs. Of course, now the US is jacking up tariffs regardless. I have no idea why no country has yet repealed their equivalent of section 1201. Whichever country does it first will have a huge advantage.
There was a reddit legal advice post recently with that premise. Poster's sister was a schizophrenic named Carol, who checked herself into an inpatient mental facility, after seeing this ad on a smart fridge, and thinking her treatment was failing and she was slipping into another episode.
Brother was wondering if they had grounds to sue over treatment costs.
Why? Carol doesn't sound like a strange name and I know people with schizophrenia, if that happened to them they would surely be, at best, problematic.
The whole thing has a stink to it. Obviously I can't be 100% certain, but whenever a story like that on reddit sounds a little too perfect, it's probably made up.
Having more typos in the title than in the post is a hint.
It's also just exactly the sort of thing that people will run away with on the internet. It's hitting a hot button topic about something that people started seeing in memes a couple weeks ago.
Plus it's too smooth. If the intention was to relay an event that actually happened, there'd be some kind of rough edge to it, something unexpected. But if the intention was to expand on that meme in an easily digestible way, this is what you'd get.
It's not the most obviously fake post I've seen on reddit, and it's possible I'm wrong. But like I said, I'd be willing bet on it.
I get the vibe that they wanted to use Karen, but realized alienating and insulting their users just for complaining about the ads was a bit too far. (Apple and Samsung can just rot in a ditch)
I remember when fridges with screens were first becoming a thing, and one way they tried to sell them was the convenience of being able to leave notes, shopping lists, photos, etc.... for other members of the family. And even back then, before the advertising apocalypse, I remember thinking, what in the actual fuck makes this 1000 dollar feature any more useful than a 20 dollar magnetic white board and a dry erase marker?
And the ultimate outcome of that was, at one point Google enacted some kind of API change which necessitated Samsung to push out an update to remain compatible, otherwise all of your Google enabled features such as the calendar syncing, email, etc. would stop working. Samsung claimed to be developing a patch for this, and ultimately pushed out an update to... only some of their models. For the others, their response was literally just, "We recommend you buy a newer refrigerator."
But since that was going on for ten years ago now, information about it on the Internet is a trifle difficult to find because the search results have largely been overshadowed by Samsung's more recent smart fridge fuckup. Grand.
I actually think a multipurpose digital screen could be quite useful and fun on a refrigerator, not needed or necessary at all but I think in a less enshittified timeline an open source version of this, possibly even an e-ink screen, could actually be nice. It would make far more sense as a whiteboard type object that you attach to your refrigerator though and obviously this entire concept is predatory on so many levels it is mindboggling.. but the idea of having a sort of communal digital screen on a refrigerator isn't a bad idea itself I don't think as hard as it is to imagine a reality where an appliance like this was designed in good faith.
100%. It's a matter of where does the technology stop being about "useful for us" and starts being "useful for them".
A digital whiteboard would be a good feature (not 'necessary', but cool). It's when they decide it needs to be connected to the internet that it becomes "is this technology serving us...or serving them" that's the problem.
I'm not anti-tech at all. Quite the opposite. But I remember the mid-2000s when all of this tech was getting off the ground and it was being innovated and invented for OUR benefit, not for the corporations. That's when this kind of stuff was fun.
But you can buy a tablet and use magnets.... Cheaper and upgrable. Like there's no reason to physically combine something that lasts but a fraction of a quality fridges life.
It's depressing to notice just how much pop culture from teh 80s onward was trying to warn us about this coming shittorm. It's like, as soon as Reaganomics came on the scene, there were those who immediately saw it for what it was and started fighting. (Punk Rock, Literature, Movies, etc...) and it wasn't enough. No one paid any attention and we are now where we are because as a culture we got sucked into chasing more shiny shit at the expense of our own good.
I never understood why anyone would buy one in the first place. I like home automation where it makes sense (like having some of my bedroom lights and my coffee maker tied to my phone alarm in the morning) but why would anyone ever tie their fridge to the internet?
In theory it would be cool to track inventory automatically for restocking, and you could have an app where owner can pay things to the fridge for the rest of the family to see.
In practice nobody would use that app, whiteboards are more fun, and it would never be able to tell what’s in containers of leftovers.
I remember back when YouTube just started showing ads. I knew they had ads for a few months, but i have never seen one. One night i was watching something on YouTube with my roommate, and an ad showed up. It was about a barcode scanner. They showed why you need a barcode scanner. They kept showing the uses of the barcode scanner. Put a barcode on your garbage bin, so you can scan it and scan what you threw away, so you know. We never skipped it and the ad just kept going. It was super weird, and it reminds me of a Tim Heidecker sketch, where you wait until they run out of ideas for barcode scanner uses, but they never did. Not for a second have i thought about buying one while watching this 45 min commercial, and i think people are delusional when they think they track their groceries with their smart fridge like that.
Unless they are like turbo autistic, then more power to them.
I might put some zigbee door sensors on my fridge so I can get an alert when it's left open. My 3yo has learned to open the freezer and while it does make a noise, so do a lot of things in my house so I might not notice straight away. Maybe an internal temperature sensor as well? Ok, now you've got me thinking, imma turn my fridge into a T1000 but at least it won't try and sell me anything.
I'm definitely with you on that. I won't buy any smart devices that require internet connections these days. And when looking to automate things, I'm much more likely to be buying a dumb device and a smart plug, rather than a smart device. That way I can still manually use the device if and when the automation side fails somewhere along the line.
if they return it, or trying to scrap it, the customer would have to admit to themselves they bought an overpriced FRIDGE that couldve cost less than a thousand. its like the smart beds that malfunctioned a while ago when aws went down.
or a smart oven, someone that would buy a smart fridge would buy smart appliances. there was a post on reddit where someone complained about thier smart oven not working because it cant connect to thier internet.
...To the manufacturer. The retailer's not going to take it back, and even if you did manage to bully them into taking it somehow that's still allowing the retailer to shield the manufacturer (i.e. Samsung) from the consequences of their actions. And consequences are what Samsung needs to see over this.
I did a little "is shit rotting in your fridge?, also inventory" thing for senior design. It was a cursed project for a variety of reasons, but even what we did was a stretch in terms of utility.
If only we had known that the girl that came up with the idea was actively detrimental to everything she was even adjacent to
There's a super easy way to find out the answer to that question that does not require a screen.. it's incredibly innovative and kind of magic though, so I understand it's not everyone's first thought.
I keep racking my brain on this one. Unless it's doing advanced things like automatically tracking fridge inventory and helping build shopping lists, there's literally no point. Analog controls work fine, even for fancier fridges with integrated ice makers.
Fridge screen with recipes would be great for my family. If it was smart enough to track the contents of the fridge and create meal plans, that would be a helpful reason to add smarts.
Maybe to plan something to eat, but the practice of actually using a recipe its in a bad spot.
Think about it you bring everything together to cut and cook, it makes so much more sense to not have it on a door. Instead in front of you, like a cookbook. Better still if it's movable.
Fortunately self hosting recipies is easy and there is great software for doing it. Use any device you want for that purpose.
Possible useful applications? Reporting on anything relevant to the fridge (temps., power consumption, water level, maintenance reminders, usage tracking etc...)
Other than that I can't think of anything other than 'bragging rights.
Well yeah, it's a fridge with a spacious screen and an Internet connection in the 2020s. Of course they'd capitalize on all that advertising real-estate. And of course they'd wait until after people have had them for a while. They're unsurprisingly shameless.
I'd be curious to know what kind of data it's collecting to optimize those ads.
Using some of the wifi connection tricks companies have, it can probably associate the device with all the devices your family has and the corresponding data
A quick scan of Mac addresses would be enough. I'd be shocked if it didn't. Then there's ip address correlation, which, while it has more steps, is probably easier. Then, of course, you log into your fridge with an email address ....
And at this point I'm just going to pause and reflect on how absurd that sentence is to someone from 2010 or earlier.
I just find it astonishing that Samsung still makes appliances... Considering how awful they are at doing it, and how much money they have to lose for the dozen+ warranty repair visits they inevitably have before ultimately refunding the device.
Maybe thats why they have screens, So their appliance division can finally turn profit by advertising you until their device dies
I think their appliances are a lot like the rest of their tech. If you get a good one it's solid for years and years, but God help you if you get a shitty one because their customer service is garbage.
Also idk what crack or other drug their engineer was on that designed the ice box in my freezer but it literally is made in a way that constantly causes problems with ice build up and not being able to dispense ice because of it.
But I will say all the rest of my Samsung appliances and even the fridge aside from that ice box bullshit have been going strong.
I think they also have crap quality control, it reminds me a lot of anything Alienware I've owned. Still using a mouse from 15 years ago but also had a keyboard from them die right around the one year mark and it was impossible to get any help from their support.
While I'm ranting huge shout out to turtle beach who's customer support and care was exceptional. My dog chewed through my headset wires and they shipped me a new one no cost.
i'unno, I just know that every person I've ever known that bought a samsung device that was not a phone, they ended up fighting through multiple warranty repairs and service visits before inevitably getting a refund.
I mean, I'll put it this way, I wouldn't recommend Samsung appliances and won't buy them again in the future but I have not found any major problems with mine five years on (save the fridge).
I agree though that there are enough bullshit problems that pop up and having a severe lack of good customer service is a combo that's steering me away from Samsung. However, they are ubiquitous for a reason.
Just a personal preference. Water dispensers on the door are typically plastic and look junky. It's kind of the same reason I despise white cars and white cabinets.
Being able to see the contents without the inefficiency of opening the door or having the problems of a translucent door or doing admin work could be cool. But now I hate them too. So glad we have no "connected" kitchen gear yet except Tasmota switch and power monitoring sockets.
I'd look for a way to unplug the screen or something first. But then I'd probably find out they used some "clever" design to make me not be able to do that, and THEN I'd smash the screen.
The absolute irony. Yeah, this advert is trying to be a reference to what's happening in the series, as this is exactly what the main character is experiencing.
But it creeped out and distressed the character into a mental breakdown. Yes, let's emulate that as a tongue-in-cheek fridge advertisement.
For someone who rolled up every psychiatrist, psychologist, and social worker on earth into their head they don’t seem to know how to handle someone experiencing grief/ptsd very well.
Someone on the Pluribus subreddit suggested that certain quirks of the collective consciousness comes from how it needs to stay functional despite a vast array of minds that are individually quite different, and how those different personalities and experiences need to be merged together somehow.
There are empathetic people and completely obtuse people inside the the consciousness, highly intelligent people and those with regressive mental disorders, or more importantly; abusers and abuse victims.
In order to keep cohesion, they literally cannot deal with negative emotions. Imagine an abuser and their abuse victim merging into a single consciousness. How would they even function?
They wouldn't.
So whenever the collective consciousness is forced to deal with negative emotions, it goes into a seizure.
I’m not sure I’m convinced. They don’t seem to be struggling with consensus on any other matters, so that kind of implies they’re just one single consciousness rather than a gestalt of conflicting ones. I don’t think the individuals are still in there, or they’re so completely subsumed they might as well be gone.
As for their vulnerability to emotional outbursts I’m betting that whatever happened with the immune survivors has made them into transmitters but not receivers for whatever psychic frequency the collective operates on. Which is why they cannot disobey or lie to her about anything except their “biological imperatives” (and even then only passively) and cannot handle her negative emotions since it disrupts the positive emotions they’re using to keep everyone’s consciousnesses subdued.
I would go on a killing spree if this happened I already have an irrational hatred of advertisements outside irl. Often think about somehow hacking the digital ones and placing my own messages.
You're more sophisticated than I am. I only haven't thrown bricks at the billboards in my bus stop because I don't feel like going to jail over crimes against public property
I'm reading a book where they mention "Ambience" systems... basically nanobots floating in the air everywhere so you can just ask something and literally hear voices with the answer or suddenly see images floating in front of your face.
My guess is to "digitalize" the sticky notes that people put on fridges. Its ment to be a billboard for the famially unit to itself! Advertizers getting inbetween and editing your note to selfs is gross!
This was always the goal when they started adding screens. Screens should always be viewed as ad delivery mechanisms especially if internet connected. That goes triple for devices that absolutely don't need a screen. Like a fucking fridge. They will slow boil the process at first. But they'll do it.
What else am I going to use to play Roblox when mom takes away my iPad, computer, tv, Switch, phone, Apple Watch, PlayStation, Xbox, Occulus, and car infotainment system? The dishwasher?
I think it's interesting where we are reaching an inflection point with technology where I pity the bs the next generation is gonna have to put up with this shit when the stockpile of old tech without this bs is gone
I know people are doubting this happened but I'm pretty sure it's a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia to think that one's electronics are trying to speak to you.
In purchasing this appliance you agree to our TOS that says we can change our TOS arbitrarily. Also you can't sue us because you've also agreed to arbitration
Much like the law should allow people to cancel any subscription created online, online, the law should mandate clear times when and where advertisement is allowed with opt out options.
If Samsung wants to advertise to me on a product, that should have to pay me $10/month to send those adverts.
Yeah, but some people didn't opt into it. I've worked on a lot of new construction in my state and they buy these appliances for every new apartment complex they build. I know people could choose a different apartment, but most people don't have any other option and saying "no" to a decent apartment because of a refrigerator isn't a luxury people can afford.
The way things are going …if you want a new fridge at an affordable price the ones with ads will be your only choice. This is peak late stage capitalism with no consumer protections or anti monopoly practices in place
No, thanks. I'll stick with my long-since-paid-for, 25-year-old Maytag. That is, as long as it works.
I recall reading in Consumer Reports many years ago that most refrigerators were discarded not because they stopped working, but because of cosmetic damage. Broken plastic door shelves, dents, rust, out of style, etc. The compressors were still fine.
Unsolicited advice warning: Depending on how handy you are, you may want to consider grabbing a few wear parts or the most commonly replaced bits before inventory completely dries up. I used to have a newer (but still old) dryer and thought the heating element was failing - a replacement part was actually kind of hard to source. Anyway, that would give the ol' beast a good shot at another decade or two.
I recall reading in Consumer Reports many years ago that most refrigerators were discarded not because they stopped working, but because of cosmetic damage. Broken plastic door shelves, dents, rust, out of style, etc. The compressors were still fine.
Yup. The enshitification kicks in super hard after a technology is mostly "solved". Refrigerator compressors and insulated boxes are both very much optimized as much as they're going to get. The only way to eke more cash out of making a product like that is to cut corners on other bits, or get people to buy a subscription somehow.
Once smart appliances become the only way to make profit competitively, dumb appliances simply won't be made. Why would anyone invest in it if smart appliances make more money through these methods? Arguably, we are already very close to this reality.
I like it a lot. I’ll warn you that the pacing is slow. Not as slow as Severance, but still slow. The world building is a lot of fun. If you want a conflict/resolution cycle per episode, you’ll hate it. The good news is, you’ll know after the first episode if it’s for you.
People need to start using technology to improve their life and society. Stop using Windows, Google, Apple, download an adblocker, and don't buy into tech consumerism like "smart fridges." All I would want to know in a fridge that would be "smart" is like the temperature? and I wouldn't sacrifice my time or attention by buying something which forces ads.
LOL we got the version with no ice dispenser and the window that you knock to turn a light on...and ignorance is bliss.... The fridge's ignorance in this case. Just be a fridge and cool shit down. That's all we're asking for.
Yes, and I am tired of seeing posts about smart fridge ads. Let the dumb people that bought a fridge with a TOC and internet connection see the fucking ads.
I don't really understand the appeal of a smart fridge. Unless it's going to tell me what groceries to buy, I don't really need an iPad on my fridge.
In any case, this was all inevitable. Technology has produced a socially acceptable way for corporations to spy on their customers. They've been doing that for years. Now they're putting what they've learned to use, so they can sell you more shit and maximize the profit potential per customer.
Maximizing profit isn't new or is it news of any kind, that's literally the entire reason corporations exist. There have been entire lawsuits about it. CEOs, sometimes want to reinvest in their workers and use profits to upgrade facilities and give out raises, only to be sued by their shareholders... The shareholders won by the way.
This is necessary for them. Anyone who acts contrary to maximizing shareholder value is either sued, removed, or otherwise taken out of a position where they can have any effect.
Any publicly traded company, especially multi-National and international companies, are basically slaves to this kind of enshittification.
I would merely hate this and curse the manufacturer. But I know that if it were in my house, my kids, with their raw, unhardened minds, would find it irresistible. The slogans would worm their way into their everyday speech. They would talk about new ads over breakfast. They just don’t have the filters we adults have. So I’m so fucking glad I don’t have anything like this. It’s beyond mildly infuriating to truly insidious.
Honestly I'm not sure if I'm critiquing widely accepted English grammar because it seems kinda like the serial comma (some use, some don't), but I don't know the name for it.
The NY Times piece on commas doesn't cite any sources and gives examples with and without based on Byzantine rules I highly doubt anyone follows, and the OWL doesn't seem to cover this specifically.
So... any idea what this particular type of comma is called that I'm wrong about but would like to persuade others that I should be right?
I'm definitely arguing against standard rules then 🙄
However, I'd say generally people write "Good morning John, please do this boring thing from last week", instead of "Good morning, John, please do this thing".
It reduces ambiguity in some cases, but unlike the Oxford comma, it never adds ambiguity (I don’t think the inline-signing of a letter ambiguity mentioned earlier is reasonable).
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Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 178 pts · 253d
really sucks, but like did we not expect this to happen?
can@sh.itjust.works · 93 pts · 253d
we did
tal@lemmy.today · 77 pts · 253d
There were still many flat surfaces in the world that did not yet have advertisements displayed on them.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 253d
Is this something Ray Bradbury wrote?
brbposting@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 253d
Maybe OC
JetpackJackson@feddit.org · 2 pts · 247d
If it is I want what it's from, he's like one of my top favorite authors
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 253d
Now they have curved and flexible displays, so is any surface safe?
scarabic@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 253d
Yeah I actually never expected to have an LCD billboard up inside my home.
cloudless@piefed.social · -12 pts · 253d
Why would you expect this to happen?
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 70 pts · 253d
Because they did it on every other item they sell with a screen and internet connection.
It's nitnjustbthatbthey show ads, it's that they track you and show you ads based on that data.
markz@suppo.fi · 53 pts · 253d
It's an internet connected appliance with a screen, made by samsung. If you follow the right kinds of news, that combination should send shivers down your spine.
Edit: l'll just say I don't think the question was so dumb it should downvoted to hell.
azimir@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 253d
Because we've seen 30 years of the Web? Because streets used to be (and some sill are) nothing but a place to put up billboards and ads? Because corporations are led by psychopaths and they care absolutely nothing about your well-being or personal health in your home?
OF COURSE if they can put an ad in your kitchen they'll by all means put an ad in your kitchen. It's literally the goal of giving out brochures and pamphlets of ads: to make you take the ads into your home. Why are there brand names on everything? It's advertising all the way down. Giving them an Internet-connecting screen they control in your kitchen is just asking for ads to be displayed in your private space.
BorgDrone@feddit.nl · 18 pts · 253d
It’s a Samsung.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 8 pts · 253d
Even if it weren't a samsung, i would always expect a screen to show ads. That's all they want to do, show ads everywhere as much as they can.
tyler@programming.dev · 7 pts · 253d
Because Samsung has done this to literally every one of their other products, even ones without screens, and only apps, like Samsung SmartThings and their washers and dryers.
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 253d
They scammed people for years with their phones.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 253d
they tried hard to keep up with apple for years, i would imagine they would try something like this eventually.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 253d
by never breaking?
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 253d
Google sideloading and "fucking ads on a fridge." Don't thank me.
can@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 253d
We've been paying attention?
Or to put it more nicely: no one finds this side of the fediverse without feeling at least a little burned by corporations.
Edit: to be clear I never meant it as rude, just a little sarcastic.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 253d
What else would the screen be for? Even if there was another valid reason, why wouldn't they put ads on it? It's easy profit or unused real estate in their eyes.
brunchyvirus@fedia.io · 1 pts · 253d
They make fridges, which typically sit in a room until it decides to die. Shareholders got pissy the enormous bill for ecs doesn't have the correct permissions
nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 96 pts · 253d
Wouldn't be surprised if you popped it open to disconnect the screen, the cooler would stop working.
meejle@lemmy.world · 109 pts · 253d
How long till stuff starts working on mobile game logic?
Next free fridge door unlock:
02:59:58
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cloudless@piefed.social · 30 pts · 253d
Don't forget the premium subscription and NFT.
wioum@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 253d
The sub gives you tokens which is used up every time you open. Use the ice maker? That's 2 tokens
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 253d
Earn tokens by dressing suggestively and dancing for men watching.
fulcrummed@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 253d
1L/3$ of water from the fridge. ice will cost you another 1L/3$
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 253d
Drink a verification can to continue
tourist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d
To access the verification can in your fridge, you could order another 6 pack of verification cans on sale at
$partner© at$current_price + $arbitrary_markup$current_priceflamiera@kbin.melroy.org · 12 pts · 253d
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 253d
If you mean the euphemism for urinating, some people would consider that quite the bargain!
Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 253d
Delete this post.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 4 pts · 253d
Your fridge is cooling for 13 more hours watch two ads now to get 4 more hours.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 253d
how about this, you only get 100 closing/opening of the fridge door a month. the freezer will cost you extra to open and close. it will start charging an "overstuff fee, if the vent/ fridge gets clogged with food.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 253d
Ad supported fridge would not be awful if you get it for free or very low price. I wouldn't buy it but for some lower income people could be a good alternative.
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d
Ew. I'd build an ice box or live out of coolers.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 253d
To that I say, why in the hell would you buy a smart fridge in the first place? That's on you for buying something that stupid.
freebee@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 253d
it will become like many appliances... You want a dumb tv? Possible, but it will cost you more than a smart one. You want a dumb fridge? Fine, but soon it will cost you more than a 'smart' one you can't even turn on without making an account somewhere and registering your email and phone
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 253d
Same thing with screen ads in new Jeeps. You bought a Jeep, you deserve pain.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 17 pts · 253d
My dad owned a bunch of jeeps from the 90's to 2005 ish. I never understood how anyone could buy more than one of these pieces of shit.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 253d
I have a friend who swears by them. Buys one after another of those heaps of junk. I always ask her “how’s your Heep?”
spizzat2@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 253d
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 5 pts · 253d
Because in the 80s they were unstoppable monsters of travel (well late 70s too, I'm talking about the CJ7 here)
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 253d
They went 0-60 in 9 seconds, sideways!
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 7 pts · 253d
The Lego of the automotive world, incredibly reliable, fantastic for off-roading, the chassis and shocks placement is what kicked off custom shocks as a thing, etc.
It was the Jeep (that wasn't a military design) that defined the brand. Which Jeep spent all its time after just ruining.
The steering was definitely very responsive for its time, though I'd personally call it a plus. Especially when it came to offroading, it was a huge benefit to get over hazards.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 253d
Once you replaced the Lil Tikes suspension with actual suspension. Factory setups were always fake off road.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
Then connect to the internet? But I think saw on YouTube that they can brick your fridge if you do anything to stop getting ads.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 253d
In theory a smart fridge could be useful.
If it automatically scanned everything you put inside, it could tell you what ingredients you had if you were planning a recipe. If you were at the store you could know what to buy. It could warn you before something reached its expiry date, or remind you what leftovers were still uneaten. Depending on how much you trusted it, it could learn what you always buy, and add them to your shopping list when you were running low, or even actually order them.
In theory this could reduce food spoilage and wastage, and could save you money in the long term. It requires trust though. Samsung is obviously mistreating users by showing them ads. But, it could be much worse. The fridge could order food that the user didn't need, or if it ordered food Samsung could strike a deal with one company and always prefer their brands even when there were cheaper options. And, of course, Samsung could sell your buying habits to Google and Meta who would use it to more effectively target you with ads. Or, Samsung could cut a deal with insurance companies to tell them which users had unhealthy eating habits so the insurance company could deny coverage or hike rates.
The big issue here is section 1201 of the DMCA. If that didn't exist, someone could open up a business installing a new, custom, privacy-centric OS on people's fridges. But, with section 1201 in place, that's illegal and you could be thrown in jail for performing that service. Even outside the US laws like that exist because the US insisted on them on condition that otherwise the US would force those countries to pay high tariffs. Of course, now the US is jacking up tariffs regardless. I have no idea why no country has yet repealed their equivalent of section 1201. Whichever country does it first will have a huge advantage.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 51 pts · 253d
Advertising must be the worst human invention ever.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 253d
All thanks to John Advertising.
We know because that asshole told everyone about it and his services.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 8 pts · 253d
It often feels like violence.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works · 49 pts · 253d
It'd be really funny if your name was Carol
axexrx@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 253d
There was a reddit legal advice post recently with that premise. Poster's sister was a schizophrenic named Carol, who checked herself into an inpatient mental facility, after seeing this ad on a smart fridge, and thinking her treatment was failing and she was slipping into another episode.
Brother was wondering if they had grounds to sue over treatment costs.
Foni@piefed.zip · 33 pts · 253d
I sincerely hope they win the case and receive a good compensation.
moakley@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 253d
I'd be willing to bet that it's fake.
Foni@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 253d
Why? Carol doesn't sound like a strange name and I know people with schizophrenia, if that happened to them they would surely be, at best, problematic.
moakley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
The whole thing has a stink to it. Obviously I can't be 100% certain, but whenever a story like that on reddit sounds a little too perfect, it's probably made up.
Having more typos in the title than in the post is a hint.
It's also just exactly the sort of thing that people will run away with on the internet. It's hitting a hot button topic about something that people started seeing in memes a couple weeks ago.
Plus it's too smooth. If the intention was to relay an event that actually happened, there'd be some kind of rough edge to it, something unexpected. But if the intention was to expand on that meme in an easily digestible way, this is what you'd get.
It's not the most obviously fake post I've seen on reddit, and it's possible I'm wrong. But like I said, I'd be willing bet on it.
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 23 pts · 253d
comments just said the ad is legal and click link to file a complaint :(
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 253d
I get the vibe that they wanted to use Karen, but realized alienating and insulting their users just for complaining about the ads was a bit too far. (Apple and Samsung can just rot in a ditch)
PrimeErective@startrek.website · 14 pts · 253d
It's an ad for a television show in which the main character's name is Carol
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 253d
Didn't know.
It still does (at least to me) look like they formatted it to low-key insult the people complaining about the advent of ads on appliances.
papalonian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 253d
"we're sorry if we upset you, Carol" is an unsettling line used to show premise at the beginning of the show.
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
Item 11. 🫠
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 44 pts · 253d
I remember when fridges with screens were first becoming a thing, and one way they tried to sell them was the convenience of being able to leave notes, shopping lists, photos, etc.... for other members of the family. And even back then, before the advertising apocalypse, I remember thinking, what in the actual fuck makes this 1000 dollar feature any more useful than a 20 dollar magnetic white board and a dry erase marker?
Tronn4@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 253d
Enshitifiction. It makes the line go up.
yannic@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 253d
Speaking of enshitification, who wants to bet that the calendar app doesn't support an open standard like CalDAV?
mjr@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 253d
I'll not take that bet. Would you like to bet it's not in the pre-sale spec sheet, so you only find out after you buy?
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 253d
And the ultimate outcome of that was, at one point Google enacted some kind of API change which necessitated Samsung to push out an update to remain compatible, otherwise all of your Google enabled features such as the calendar syncing, email, etc. would stop working. Samsung claimed to be developing a patch for this, and ultimately pushed out an update to... only some of their models. For the others, their response was literally just, "We recommend you buy a newer refrigerator."
Yes, this actually happened.
But since that was going on for ten years ago now, information about it on the Internet is a trifle difficult to find because the search results have largely been overshadowed by Samsung's more recent smart fridge fuckup. Grand.
Never buy a Samsung appliance.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 253d
I actually think a multipurpose digital screen could be quite useful and fun on a refrigerator, not needed or necessary at all but I think in a less enshittified timeline an open source version of this, possibly even an e-ink screen, could actually be nice. It would make far more sense as a whiteboard type object that you attach to your refrigerator though and obviously this entire concept is predatory on so many levels it is mindboggling.. but the idea of having a sort of communal digital screen on a refrigerator isn't a bad idea itself I don't think as hard as it is to imagine a reality where an appliance like this was designed in good faith.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 253d
100%. It's a matter of where does the technology stop being about "useful for us" and starts being "useful for them".
A digital whiteboard would be a good feature (not 'necessary', but cool). It's when they decide it needs to be connected to the internet that it becomes "is this technology serving us...or serving them" that's the problem.
I'm not anti-tech at all. Quite the opposite. But I remember the mid-2000s when all of this tech was getting off the ground and it was being innovated and invented for OUR benefit, not for the corporations. That's when this kind of stuff was fun.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 253d
But you can buy a tablet and use magnets.... Cheaper and upgrable. Like there's no reason to physically combine something that lasts but a fraction of a quality fridges life.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 253d
Because you must consooooooooom. Don't think, just spend. See shiny "useful" feature, open wallet.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 253d
It's depressing to notice just how much pop culture from teh 80s onward was trying to warn us about this coming shittorm. It's like, as soon as Reaganomics came on the scene, there were those who immediately saw it for what it was and started fighting. (Punk Rock, Literature, Movies, etc...) and it wasn't enough. No one paid any attention and we are now where we are because as a culture we got sucked into chasing more shiny shit at the expense of our own good.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 253d
But how else will we learn about the evils of Goldstein?
myrrh@ttrpg.network · 4 pts · 253d
cloudless@piefed.social · 41 pts · 253d
I would return it.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 253d
I never understood why anyone would buy one in the first place. I like home automation where it makes sense (like having some of my bedroom lights and my coffee maker tied to my phone alarm in the morning) but why would anyone ever tie their fridge to the internet?
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 253d
In theory it would be cool to track inventory automatically for restocking, and you could have an app where owner can pay things to the fridge for the rest of the family to see.
In practice nobody would use that app, whiteboards are more fun, and it would never be able to tell what’s in containers of leftovers.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 3 pts · 253d
I remember back when YouTube just started showing ads. I knew they had ads for a few months, but i have never seen one. One night i was watching something on YouTube with my roommate, and an ad showed up. It was about a barcode scanner. They showed why you need a barcode scanner. They kept showing the uses of the barcode scanner. Put a barcode on your garbage bin, so you can scan it and scan what you threw away, so you know. We never skipped it and the ad just kept going. It was super weird, and it reminds me of a Tim Heidecker sketch, where you wait until they run out of ideas for barcode scanner uses, but they never did. Not for a second have i thought about buying one while watching this 45 min commercial, and i think people are delusional when they think they track their groceries with their smart fridge like that.
Unless they are like turbo autistic, then more power to them.
Quadhammer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
The fridge would have to passively scan stuff but it would feel weird spying on groceries like that to me
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 253d
Because fucking idiots buy anything with a screen, over anything with a slightly smaller screen.
Greg@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 253d
I might put some zigbee door sensors on my fridge so I can get an alert when it's left open. My 3yo has learned to open the freezer and while it does make a noise, so do a lot of things in my house so I might not notice straight away. Maybe an internal temperature sensor as well? Ok, now you've got me thinking, imma turn my fridge into a T1000 but at least it won't try and sell me anything.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 253d
I only like home automation in the sense of "light goes on if something moves" because that works offline.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 253d
I'm definitely with you on that. I won't buy any smart devices that require internet connections these days. And when looking to automate things, I'm much more likely to be buying a dumb device and a smart plug, rather than a smart device. That way I can still manually use the device if and when the automation side fails somewhere along the line.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 253d
they also tend to be more prone to breaking than a non-smart appliance.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 253d
if they return it, or trying to scrap it, the customer would have to admit to themselves they bought an overpriced FRIDGE that couldve cost less than a thousand. its like the smart beds that malfunctioned a while ago when aws went down.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 253d
or a smart oven, someone that would buy a smart fridge would buy smart appliances. there was a post on reddit where someone complained about thier smart oven not working because it cant connect to thier internet.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 253d
...To the manufacturer. The retailer's not going to take it back, and even if you did manage to bully them into taking it somehow that's still allowing the retailer to shield the manufacturer (i.e. Samsung) from the consequences of their actions. And consequences are what Samsung needs to see over this.
freebee@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 253d
why does a fridge need a computer and a screen?
Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 253d
The burning question on the hearts and minds of everyone who isn't a complete dolt since these things came out
maniclucky@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 253d
I did a little "is shit rotting in your fridge?, also inventory" thing for senior design. It was a cursed project for a variety of reasons, but even what we did was a stretch in terms of utility.
If only we had known that the girl that came up with the idea was actively detrimental to everything she was even adjacent to
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 253d
There's a super easy way to find out the answer to that question that does not require a screen.. it's incredibly innovative and kind of magic though, so I understand it's not everyone's first thought.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
Equip a sensor that figures out how much ethylene is in the air inside the fridge?
Or just open the door every once in a while and look...
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 253d
Congrats, you just won 100k magic interwebs coins.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 252d
Rad. I solemnly swear not to blow them all in the same place, unless maybe somewhere offers me a really interesting knife to spend them on.
maniclucky@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
Oh yeah. It was a shit project. Fucking nightmare.
SirHery@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 253d
So they can show you ads. Obviously 😌
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 253d
I keep racking my brain on this one. Unless it's doing advanced things like automatically tracking fridge inventory and helping build shopping lists, there's literally no point. Analog controls work fine, even for fancier fridges with integrated ice makers.
village604@adultswim.fan · 5 pts · 253d
Displaying recipes is about all I can come up with
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 253d
And even that one is not a good use case really because of the location.
The counter makes a lot more sense for a recipe screen, and turns out a tablet is good at that.
harmbugler@piefed.social · 3 pts · 253d
Fridge screen with recipes would be great for my family. If it was smart enough to track the contents of the fridge and create meal plans, that would be a helpful reason to add smarts.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 253d
Maybe to plan something to eat, but the practice of actually using a recipe its in a bad spot.
Think about it you bring everything together to cut and cook, it makes so much more sense to not have it on a door. Instead in front of you, like a cookbook. Better still if it's movable.
Fortunately self hosting recipies is easy and there is great software for doing it. Use any device you want for that purpose.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 253d
why does anything aside from a computer?
Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win · 1 pts · 253d
'need'? It doesn't.
Possible useful applications? Reporting on anything relevant to the fridge (temps., power consumption, water level, maintenance reminders, usage tracking etc...)
Other than that I can't think of anything other than 'bragging rights.
percent@infosec.pub · 32 pts · 253d
Well yeah, it's a fridge with a spacious screen and an Internet connection in the 2020s. Of course they'd capitalize on all that advertising real-estate. And of course they'd wait until after people have had them for a while. They're unsurprisingly shameless.
I'd be curious to know what kind of data it's collecting to optimize those ads.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 253d
Using some of the wifi connection tricks companies have, it can probably associate the device with all the devices your family has and the corresponding data
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 253d
I imagine it goes like this:
Or, and much much cheaper:
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 253d
This 100%. Also cross-reference IP addresses associated with the fridge's IP to get Google/Meta advertising IDs on the whole family.
There's a non-zero chance that when Grandma comes over, she gets ads just for her as long as she's there.
percent@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 252d
Ugh. Everything in this thread is totally feasible and probably reasonably accurate.
I miss the old days when I could love tech, and got excited about new tech. It has gotten so sleazy.
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 251d
A quick scan of Mac addresses would be enough. I'd be shocked if it didn't. Then there's ip address correlation, which, while it has more steps, is probably easier. Then, of course, you log into your fridge with an email address ....
And at this point I'm just going to pause and reflect on how absurd that sentence is to someone from 2010 or earlier.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 253d
I still don't understand any benefit from having a screen on my fridge... but now I hate them, thanks Samsung
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 253d
I just find it astonishing that Samsung still makes appliances... Considering how awful they are at doing it, and how much money they have to lose for the dozen+ warranty repair visits they inevitably have before ultimately refunding the device.
Maybe thats why they have screens, So their appliance division can finally turn profit by advertising you until their device dies
LePoisson@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d
I think their appliances are a lot like the rest of their tech. If you get a good one it's solid for years and years, but God help you if you get a shitty one because their customer service is garbage.
Also idk what crack or other drug their engineer was on that designed the ice box in my freezer but it literally is made in a way that constantly causes problems with ice build up and not being able to dispense ice because of it.
But I will say all the rest of my Samsung appliances and even the fridge aside from that ice box bullshit have been going strong.
I think they also have crap quality control, it reminds me a lot of anything Alienware I've owned. Still using a mouse from 15 years ago but also had a keyboard from them die right around the one year mark and it was impossible to get any help from their support.
While I'm ranting huge shout out to turtle beach who's customer support and care was exceptional. My dog chewed through my headset wires and they shipped me a new one no cost.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d
i'unno, I just know that every person I've ever known that bought a samsung device that was not a phone, they ended up fighting through multiple warranty repairs and service visits before inevitably getting a refund.
LePoisson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 252d
That sucks. Yeah, fighting is the keyword there.
I mean, I'll put it this way, I wouldn't recommend Samsung appliances and won't buy them again in the future but I have not found any major problems with mine five years on (save the fridge).
I agree though that there are enough bullshit problems that pop up and having a severe lack of good customer service is a combo that's steering me away from Samsung. However, they are ubiquitous for a reason.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 253d
Do they? Or do they just have someone else do all the design and manufacture like every other brand these days.
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 253d
Ads. That’s the benefit. That’s the only possible one.
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d
I don't like anything on the fridge door including water and ice dispensers. Love the water dispensers inside the fridge
Jhex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
interesting, how come?
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d
Just a personal preference. Water dispensers on the door are typically plastic and look junky. It's kind of the same reason I despise white cars and white cabinets.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
Like... bottles?
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
Those too but I'm talking about the water dispenser built in to the fridge.
mjr@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 253d
Being able to see the contents without the inefficiency of opening the door or having the problems of a translucent door or doing admin work could be cool. But now I hate them too. So glad we have no "connected" kitchen gear yet except Tasmota switch and power monitoring sockets.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 253d
I would be so pissed if I bought one of these. I’d probably smash the screen in rage.
I knew this would happen though.
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 253d
I'd look for a way to unplug the screen or something first. But then I'd probably find out they used some "clever" design to make me not be able to do that, and THEN I'd smash the screen.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 6 pts · 253d
Then you have an expensive fridge that isn't even that good with a dark screen.
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 253d
But it doesn't show ad's, so there's that
donalonzo@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 253d
0x0@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 252d
The underlying problem is capitalism, not technology per se. It's the "Big" part.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 252d
The first part of your sentence, before the comma, applies to just about everything in the world today, not just technology. Peace.
donalonzo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 252d
embed_me@programming.dev · 13 pts · 253d
That's why I support Free Software movement
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 253d
The absolute irony. Yeah, this advert is trying to be a reference to what's happening in the series, as this is exactly what the main character is experiencing.
But it creeped out and distressed the character into a mental breakdown. Yes, let's emulate that as a tongue-in-cheek fridge advertisement.
underisk@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 253d
For someone who rolled up every psychiatrist, psychologist, and social worker on earth into their head they don’t seem to know how to handle someone experiencing grief/ptsd very well.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 253d
Someone on the Pluribus subreddit suggested that certain quirks of the collective consciousness comes from how it needs to stay functional despite a vast array of minds that are individually quite different, and how those different personalities and experiences need to be merged together somehow.
There are empathetic people and completely obtuse people inside the the consciousness, highly intelligent people and those with regressive mental disorders, or more importantly; abusers and abuse victims.
In order to keep cohesion, they literally cannot deal with negative emotions. Imagine an abuser and their abuse victim merging into a single consciousness. How would they even function?
They wouldn't.
So whenever the collective consciousness is forced to deal with negative emotions, it goes into a seizure.
underisk@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 253d
I’m not sure I’m convinced. They don’t seem to be struggling with consensus on any other matters, so that kind of implies they’re just one single consciousness rather than a gestalt of conflicting ones. I don’t think the individuals are still in there, or they’re so completely subsumed they might as well be gone.
As for their vulnerability to emotional outbursts I’m betting that whatever happened with the immune survivors has made them into transmitters but not receivers for whatever psychic frequency the collective operates on. Which is why they cannot disobey or lie to her about anything except their “biological imperatives” (and even then only passively) and cannot handle her negative emotions since it disrupts the positive emotions they’re using to keep everyone’s consciousnesses subdued.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 253d
Exactly
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 253d
Remember this when they try to sell the idea of putting screens in the sky or space
LiveLM@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 253d
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 253d
I would go on a killing spree if this happened I already have an irrational hatred of advertisements outside irl. Often think about somehow hacking the digital ones and placing my own messages.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 253d
You're more sophisticated than I am. I only haven't thrown bricks at the billboards in my bus stop because I don't feel like going to jail over crimes against public property
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d
Jhex@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 253d
I'm reading a book where they mention "Ambience" systems... basically nanobots floating in the air everywhere so you can just ask something and literally hear voices with the answer or suddenly see images floating in front of your face.
Imagine that tech in this stupid timeline...
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 253d
Man I'm thirsty
"have a coke."
Becomes enemy of the state
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 253d
Book title and author? I'm always looking for interesting new reads and a similar lore existed in a comedy isekai anime some years ago.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
The Gone World by Tom Sweterlitsch
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 252d
Thanks!
403@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 253d
Why on earth would anyone buy this garbage? The only advanced feature I'd like would be a crushed ice dispenser.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 253d
This is me.
I just cant imagine wanting a fridge to do anything other than keeping things cold.
HelloHotel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
My guess is to "digitalize" the sticky notes that people put on fridges. Its ment to be a billboard for the famially unit to itself! Advertizers getting inbetween and editing your note to selfs is gross!
BluesF@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 253d
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 253d
This was always the goal when they started adding screens. Screens should always be viewed as ad delivery mechanisms especially if internet connected. That goes triple for devices that absolutely don't need a screen. Like a fucking fridge. They will slow boil the process at first. But they'll do it.
macarthur_park@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 253d
FYI there is a setting to disable ads. Doesn’t excuse them for introducing ads in the first place, but at least it’s a solvable problem (for now).
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 253d
If we're here to solve it, another solution is not to connect it to your network.
I don't know why someone would want the internet on their fridge.
HonorableScythe@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 253d
What else am I going to use to play Roblox when mom takes away my iPad, computer, tv, Switch, phone, Apple Watch, PlayStation, Xbox, Occulus, and car infotainment system? The dishwasher?
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 253d
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 252d
Let me guess, it's opt out?
I think it's interesting where we are reaching an inflection point with technology where I pity the bs the next generation is gonna have to put up with this shit when the stockpile of old tech without this bs is gone
LiveLM@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 253d
Imagine your name really is "Carol", then you wake up one day and see this shit
pelley@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 253d
https://poprant.indiatimes.com/trending/pluribus-apple-tv-show-allegedly-triggers-mental-health-episode-in-uk-woman-named-carol-with-schizophrenia-676562.html
Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 253d
I know people are doubting this happened but I'm pretty sure it's a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia to think that one's electronics are trying to speak to you.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 19 pts · 253d
If you Dont LIKE THIS you're a TERRORIST!
-Trump's NPSM-7 which Classifies ANTI CAPITALISM as Terrorism! FREEDOM!
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 253d
It's kinda coincidental to have all three conglomerates in that picture: Sony producing that TV show, with advertisement paid by Apple TV to Samsung.
viking@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 253d
And probably some Google analytics tracker in the background as well.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 253d
So ironic considering the advertising material. It feels like this show is about technology replacing humans.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 253d
If you bought it without ads and it started showing ads, that would be a breach of contract.
lol_idk@piefed.social · 15 pts · 253d
In purchasing this appliance you agree to our TOS that says we can change our TOS arbitrarily. Also you can't sue us because you've also agreed to arbitration
x00z@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 253d
Good thing that's not legal in most parts of the world.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 253d
But it is, because it covers the software, which people buy, but do not own. Worldwide.
x00z@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d
It isn't.
In the EU for example a ToS can not violate your consumer rights even if you accept to waive those rights.
fadedmaster@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 253d
They probably get around this from some clause in the terms and conditions... Yep... Terms and conditions for a fridge.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 253d
you didn't sign.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 253d
You don't own the software on your $2000 fridge, read the EULA.
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 253d
Anyone who bought into this crap kind of deserves it at this point.
I keep my appliances dumb AF because I have half a chance at repairing them should something break.
There are also fewer points of failure.
Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 53 pts · 253d
no. nobody deserves to be scammed.
yes they should have known better and did not, but they did not deserve it.
cogman@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 253d
Much like the law should allow people to cancel any subscription created online, online, the law should mandate clear times when and where advertisement is allowed with opt out options.
If Samsung wants to advertise to me on a product, that should have to pay me $10/month to send those adverts.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 253d
They use that $10/mo to offset the $10/mo they want to charge you to continue using your fridge. Appliances As A Service or something.
TommySoda@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 253d
Yeah, but some people didn't opt into it. I've worked on a lot of new construction in my state and they buy these appliances for every new apartment complex they build. I know people could choose a different apartment, but most people don't have any other option and saying "no" to a decent apartment because of a refrigerator isn't a luxury people can afford.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 2 pts · 253d
Why would someone buy a smart fridge for an apparent complex?
borth@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 253d
Because then it's "luxury" and they're allowed to charge $1500+ for a 1 bedroom
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
Lmao, where I live that’s par for the course.
leftascenter@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 253d
"Incentives" for the purchasing party.
harmbugler@piefed.social · 1 pts · 253d
Ads subsidise the upfront cost to the developers. Try buying a dumb TV.
Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 253d
The way things are going …if you want a new fridge at an affordable price the ones with ads will be your only choice. This is peak late stage capitalism with no consumer protections or anti monopoly practices in place
matsdis@piefed.social · 14 pts · 253d
Time to re-read Cory Doctorow's "Unauthorized Bread". I thought it was satire and way over the top, but reality keeps catching up.
TwoDogsFighting@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 252d
He really needs to stop writing instruction manuals for bastards.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 253d
At least they don’t lock the fridge until you watch an ad.
viking@infosec.pub · 18 pts · 253d
...yet
irish_link@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d
I can't tell if I should upvote this or downvote this.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 252d
...yes
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 253d
...yet.
KonalaKoala@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 253d
If that happens, then this should be upgraded to Majorly Infuriating.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 2 pts · 253d
Nothin a good crowbar can’t solve.
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 253d
Just wait until buggy malware worms its way into these things and the screen just shows kernel panics in an infinite loop.
Edit: or worse, somebody hacks it to play random hardcore porn videos.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 253d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 253d
No, thanks. I'll stick with my long-since-paid-for, 25-year-old Maytag. That is, as long as it works.
I recall reading in Consumer Reports many years ago that most refrigerators were discarded not because they stopped working, but because of cosmetic damage. Broken plastic door shelves, dents, rust, out of style, etc. The compressors were still fine.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 253d
Unsolicited advice warning: Depending on how handy you are, you may want to consider grabbing a few wear parts or the most commonly replaced bits before inventory completely dries up. I used to have a newer (but still old) dryer and thought the heating element was failing - a replacement part was actually kind of hard to source. Anyway, that would give the ol' beast a good shot at another decade or two.
Yup. The enshitification kicks in super hard after a technology is mostly "solved". Refrigerator compressors and insulated boxes are both very much optimized as much as they're going to get. The only way to eke more cash out of making a product like that is to cut corners on other bits, or get people to buy a subscription somehow.
Quadhammer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
There's probably someone out there that can or do make the parts aftermarket
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 253d
Does the plastic hinges on the freezer door breaking count as "cosmetic damage" too?
witty_username@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 253d
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 253d
Once smart appliances become the only way to make profit competitively, dumb appliances simply won't be made. Why would anyone invest in it if smart appliances make more money through these methods? Arguably, we are already very close to this reality.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 253d
I would return it
claim_arguably@lemdro.id · 11 pts · 253d
Fuck this
lefixxx@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 253d
after seeing pluribus that ad has a whole new meaning
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d
Ads are shitty.
Ads on fridge are insanely shitty.
That particular ad is good as ads go.
The product advertised is amazing.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 253d
Is it really good? I like Rhea Seehorn but the synopsis seemed meh to me. Might give it a go.
Edit: oh I see it’s Vince Gilligan too.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d
I like it a lot. I’ll warn you that the pacing is slow. Not as slow as Severance, but still slow. The world building is a lot of fun. If you want a conflict/resolution cycle per episode, you’ll hate it. The good news is, you’ll know after the first episode if it’s for you.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 253d
Thanks. I’m trying it now. I don’t mind a slow burner as long as it’s interesting, which I get is subjective.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
Verdict required: Is it for you?
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 253d
Really enjoyed the first episode. So yes it’s for me.
lefixxx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
So far ilike it because of the vibes amd the director
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 253d
I'm like 3 episodes in so far and have had a hard time not binging it all at once.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 253d
To be more accurate, the ads only appear in specific cases where idiots were dumb enough to buy a fridge with a screen.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 253d
Okay that one single ad about Pluribus is quite funny, especially being displayed on a fridge, but other than that, it’s NO.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 253d
Will they show ads for basic LG fridges?
SystemL@literature.cafe · 5 pts · 253d
I mean what do you expect…?
0x0@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 252d
Rossmann has a take on this (and several on DRM and similar).
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 253d
People need to start using technology to improve their life and society. Stop using Windows, Google, Apple, download an adblocker, and don't buy into tech consumerism like "smart fridges." All I would want to know in a fridge that would be "smart" is like the temperature? and I wouldn't sacrifice my time or attention by buying something which forces ads.
gezginorman@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 253d
i'm not judging for having this abomination, but black tape, all the way down
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 253d
thats what a nailgun and particle board is for.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 253d
Or just don’t give your fridge wifi access. Then the fridge still at least works as a fridge.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
True.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 252d
The things Samsung has to resort to, to be able to afford ram for its phones after Samsung cut Samsung off from it's supply.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 253d
LOL we got the version with no ice dispenser and the window that you knock to turn a light on...and ignorance is bliss.... The fridge's ignorance in this case. Just be a fridge and cool shit down. That's all we're asking for.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 3 pts · 253d
Nothing a good roll of duct tape can’t solve.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 253d
its like it requires internet conneciton, or some kind to make the fridge work.
HarneyToker@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 252d
Yes, and I am tired of seeing posts about smart fridge ads. Let the dumb people that bought a fridge with a TOC and internet connection see the fucking ads.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 253d
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 252d
I don't really understand the appeal of a smart fridge. Unless it's going to tell me what groceries to buy, I don't really need an iPad on my fridge.
In any case, this was all inevitable. Technology has produced a socially acceptable way for corporations to spy on their customers. They've been doing that for years. Now they're putting what they've learned to use, so they can sell you more shit and maximize the profit potential per customer.
Maximizing profit isn't new or is it news of any kind, that's literally the entire reason corporations exist. There have been entire lawsuits about it. CEOs, sometimes want to reinvest in their workers and use profits to upgrade facilities and give out raises, only to be sued by their shareholders... The shareholders won by the way.
This is necessary for them. Anyone who acts contrary to maximizing shareholder value is either sued, removed, or otherwise taken out of a position where they can have any effect.
Any publicly traded company, especially multi-National and international companies, are basically slaves to this kind of enshittification.
The system is working as designed.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 253d
This is a repost. We did see that in this community or another one a week + ago.
Found it
lemmy.world/post/38772979
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 253d
Soooo many reposts
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 253d
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 252d
The only part of a samsung appliance designed to work reliably.
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
Come on it's the 21st century where is your refrigerator electromagnet? Looks like it is very needed.
notsure@fedia.io · 1 pts · 253d
...Uncle Albert has nothing on you, Carol...
Xylight@lemdro.id · 1 pts · 253d
internet explorer bro
scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
I would merely hate this and curse the manufacturer. But I know that if it were in my house, my kids, with their raw, unhardened minds, would find it irresistible. The slogans would worm their way into their everyday speech. They would talk about new ads over breakfast. They just don’t have the filters we adults have. So I’m so fucking glad I don’t have anything like this. It’s beyond mildly infuriating to truly insidious.
stiffyGlitch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
The damn thing is probably reading the barcodes too.
myrrh@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 253d
HelloHotel@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
"Sorry we upset you"? What did it pick up on for it to say that?
Edit: it apparently fooled others too
faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 252d
It's an ad for the tv show Pluribus. It's basically a quote from the show.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 172d
Why'd one buy a "smart" fridge with spyware? Wouldn't it be better to buy a dumb fridge?
ksh@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 250d
Unsolicited ads used to be called spam back in my days. Code with closed source and unknown functionality used to be called malware.
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 253d
That comma is unnecessary and introduces ambiguity to the sentence, which is the opposite of what commas are supposed to do.
For example, who is the dumbass?:
Who is Carol?!? The addressed, or the addressee? (I'm not actually an English expert so may be wildly incorrect)
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 253d
You’re wildly incorrect, according to every major style guide.
If you’re critiquing widely accepted rules of English grammar, your critique may be valid.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
hey this is the internet we don't care if its correct we care if it sounds
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
Fine, I’ll sterilize a ballpoint pen…
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
sterilize? well lah di dah your majesty
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 253d
Honestly I'm not sure if I'm critiquing widely accepted English grammar because it seems kinda like the serial comma (some use, some don't), but I don't know the name for it.
The NY Times piece on commas doesn't cite any sources and gives examples with and without based on Byzantine rules I highly doubt anyone follows, and the OWL doesn't seem to cover this specifically.
So... any idea what this particular type of comma is called that I'm wrong about but would like to persuade others that I should be right?
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
It’s called a vocative comma.
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 253d
Thanks!
I'm definitely arguing against standard rules then 🙄
However, I'd say generally people write "Good morning John, please do this boring thing from last week", instead of "Good morning, John, please do this thing".
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
I don’t know, Carol.
I don’t know Carol.
It reduces ambiguity in some cases, but unlike the Oxford comma, it never adds ambiguity (I don’t think the inline-signing of a letter ambiguity mentioned earlier is reasonable).