It was a $680mill job, and SoCal Edison (SCE) had such an inept legal team, they missed a term in the contract with Mitsubishi which limited payout for failure within the 20yr warranty to $125mill.
Can you fucking believe that shit? I only found this out after investigating why there was a $3 "decommissioning fee" on my first electric bill after moving to California.
Funnily, they no longer make either of these products. The glass jar division was sold decades ago, and the aerospace sector was purchased by BAE last year. Ball is still the largest manufacturer of aluminum cans, however. They also make plastic bottles.
I like their idea of aluminum cups, but the boxes they come in are unfortunately made from plastic coated paperboard. (Not sure why, with their whole selling point being more environmentally friendly.)
Great at conduction, but with not a lot of thermal mass, meaning that actually your drink will usually just make whatever it's touching (your hand, often) super cold or hot.
It's a big enough problem that products are sold and even given away specifically to combat the issue.
Also, the aluminum drink can was invented in 1959, and the koozie started becoming a thing in the early 70s. But I'm sure people were insulating their cans with DIY koozies before then.
I used to make, consume and share a lot of frozen beverages. I had a set of aluminum cups that I loved, but everyone else hated them because they started frosting over as soon as the frozen drink was poured in. My then girlfriend, now wife, would only use them with a towel wrapped around them for insulation.
I didn't begrudge her the right to be warm, but it did make the cups look a lot less pretty. The ones I had were shaped differently, but basically this:
I got them at a thrift shop, so no clue what brand they were. I think I technically still have them somewhere but have only used them once any time even remotely recently.
If you're sitting in hot bleachers, the cooling effect on your hand or forehead is pretty nice, and you're gonna drink the drink before it's warm anyway. Hot is more of a problem unless you're cold enough to be wearing mittens.
Capitalism baby! If nobody buys your environmentally friendly aluminum cups they wonât do much good, and people are more likely to buy a product with âluxuriousâ feeling packaging. Theyâre likely still a net benefit vs plastic solo cups, but the market leads to perverse incentives.
Ever heard of Big Deal Custom Cases? They're a company in Winnipeg, Manitoba who started out making road cases for musicians before diversifying into laptops, field equipment, basically anything breakable anyone needed to carry from one place to another.
Imagine what they thought when NASA phoned them up to build giant cases to carry the sails for the James Webb Space Telescope from the manufacturer to their headquarters.
huh, that is right up our alley, but were kinda always felt that there's a secret echelon of âreally professional companiesâ that gets contracted by NASA
They purposely try to spread it around as much as they can to avoid unbalancing the economic and academic equilibrium of the states.
They would save a lot of money by just building everything in one place, say, Texas or New Mexico, but the cost of running NASA, and the academic expertise required to do so would pull so much economic activity, companies, jobs, taxes, and all the knock on effects to that state that local businesses, residents, land values would all spin out of balance, and the states who missed out would have a noticeable dip in business and income tax revenue. They didn't need to build the Saturn 5 first stage in... Wherever, and then ship it all the way down to the Panama canal and back up to Port Canaveral, but they did it to share the load and the economic stimulus.
Yeah! I didn't know until I visited with a friend of Gary Dealy (nicknamed Big Deal.) They have framed photos of the whole process. You should ask about it if you're in there, Gary told us the whole story. Very nice, cool, hilarious people.
I've been getting into stained glass lately. The textures and the various "dichroic" styles and swirly colorful patterns on some of them are absolutely amazing. I'm really lucky to live near a giant place that deals specifically in stained glass and it's a treat for the eyes just to look at all the beautiful glass they have there.
I took a class on Tiffany style. Super cool stuff. Expensive for the material, but the skill level to get started and have something decent is super low. Glad I learned about it!
I took a copper-foil stained glass beginners course and turned out a pretty nice 1st attempt. Very excited to see what else i can do... Just in the process of gathering the needed tools and materials to start making some pieces in my own little shop...
I saw a documentary about that which was a total hoot. From some stiff necked old coot talking about "At Hamilton Standard we made propellers and transmission gearboxes for military and commercial applications. They made brassieres." To this sharp old girl talking about "I was making baby pants and they asked me if I wanted to try something different. They put me in charge of quality control, and I issued each girl color coded pins. I was examining one suit, and I found a red pin, so I looked up who was issued the red pins and I went over to her and said "Here's your pin" and I stuck her in the behind with it."
Muncie, Indiana is was the home of the Ball Corporation, which is the company referenced in this meme. Also of Ball State University, founded by his endowment. Like "Mason jar" before it, "Ball jar" has become a genericized trademark for the object itself, especially in the Midwest.
If Ball makes a Mason jar, its still a Mason jar, so are all other jars made by Ball just ambiguously "Ball" jars? Or is there a specific design that is referred to as a Ball jar?
May be a region thing. A Ball jar is equally genericized and supplants mason especially when used literally. There are still Ball branded ball jars here... not mason... I'll check but I don't think they even use mason in the description.
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ODuffer@lemmy.world · 187 pts · 240d
Hitachi - Magic wand, Hydraulic excavators, Scanning Electron Microscopes.
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 51 pts · 240d
My 3 favorite activities.
higgsboson@piefed.social · 41 pts · 240d
They sold the rights to make the magic wand about a decade ago. No longer Hitachi, alas.
Mirshe@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 240d
Because Hitachi was embarrassed about their innocent personal massager being used for such unwholesome activities. Literal PR move.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 240d
I thought Magic Wands were used almost exclusively for holesome activities.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 240d
Nice
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 240d
You're not supposed to put that thing into your hole.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 240d
Actually, it's pretty good for that
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 239d
Seems like it would be a violent torturous way to make orifices much larger than they're supposed to be đł
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 239d
Violent? That would be a choice. Maybe I'll try it sometime. Anyway, it feels amazing.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
Says who?
You gonna tell?
vrek@programming.dev · 20 pts · 240d
Just like TI... They no longer make the famous calculator
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 240d
Well that makes sense, he had to focus on his music career.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 240d
Get off my lawn
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 240d
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 240d
Wich turned it basically into an US exclusive product, and pretty much impossible to get outside of there
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 240d
Mitsubishi: pens, cars, nuclear power plants.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 240d
They fucked up San onofre so bad it's now being decommissioned đĄ
https://newsroom.edison.com/stories/sce-formally-serves-mitsubishi-with-notice-of-dispute
It was a $680mill job, and SoCal Edison (SCE) had such an inept legal team, they missed a term in the contract with Mitsubishi which limited payout for failure within the 20yr warranty to $125mill.
Can you fucking believe that shit? I only found this out after investigating why there was a $3 "decommissioning fee" on my first electric bill after moving to California.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
"Yeah can I get uhhh, a medium sized family sedan, an air conditioner, and a capesize containership?"
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 239d
Just Zaibatsu things...
excral@feddit.org · 2 pts · 239d
ACs, planes, CNCs, and solar and wind energy, too.
But like many Japanese corporations, they are legally distinct but interlocked companies, see Keiretsu.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 239d
and plastic. I CNC Mitsubishi plastic with a Mitsubishi controlled machine.
funny how that works, but it do be like that.
ch00f@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
https://theonion.com/yamaha-ceo-pleased-with-current-production-of-jet-skis-1819570984/
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 76 pts · 240d
Funnily, they no longer make either of these products. The glass jar division was sold decades ago, and the aerospace sector was purchased by BAE last year. Ball is still the largest manufacturer of aluminum cans, however. They also make plastic bottles.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 240d
I like their idea of aluminum cups, but the boxes they come in are unfortunately made from plastic coated paperboard. (Not sure why, with their whole selling point being more environmentally friendly.)
alternategait@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 240d
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 240d
Great at conduction, but with not a lot of thermal mass, meaning that actually your drink will usually just make whatever it's touching (your hand, often) super cold or hot.
alternategait@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 240d
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 240d
Weâve been storing and drinking beverages in aluminum cans for like a century now and this hasnât been a big problem.
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 240d
It's a big enough problem that products are sold and even given away specifically to combat the issue.
Also, the aluminum drink can was invented in 1959, and the koozie started becoming a thing in the early 70s. But I'm sure people were insulating their cans with DIY koozies before then.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 240d
Did you know you can get pint glass koozies, just like for cans?
Eg
We also have those nice paper sleeves for coffee cups that would do the job as well. At least where you touch.
So itâs an already-solved problem for this application.
blackbrook@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 240d
Well, plastic lined cans, though i'm not sure that affects the thermal properties significantly. And beer coozies exist for a reason.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 240d
Sure but isn't it mostly for camping equipment? Don't really see why you would use it when strength/weight isn't much of a concern.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 240d
Soft drinks and beer have been in aluminum cans for like a century at least.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 240d
Yeah, for sure. Though if you drink it fast enough, it won't warm the drink noticeably before it's gone.
alternategait@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 240d
toynbee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 240d
I used to make, consume and share a lot of frozen beverages. I had a set of aluminum cups that I loved, but everyone else hated them because they started frosting over as soon as the frozen drink was poured in. My then girlfriend, now wife, would only use them with a towel wrapped around them for insulation.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 240d
Oof. I think I lean more toward her side, to be honest. I don't like having cold hands.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 240d
I didn't begrudge her the right to be warm, but it did make the cups look a lot less pretty. The ones I had were shaped differently, but basically this:
I got them at a thrift shop, so no clue what brand they were. I think I technically still have them somewhere but have only used them once any time even remotely recently.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 240d
Those do look really nice, for sure. They'd make great snack cups.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 240d
If you're sitting in hot bleachers, the cooling effect on your hand or forehead is pretty nice, and you're gonna drink the drink before it's warm anyway. Hot is more of a problem unless you're cold enough to be wearing mittens.
MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 240d
Yeah I have some and they 100% require a koozie/beverage sleeve.
obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 240d
As measured by the average suck point.
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7411043/m/986109911/xsl/print_topic
alternategait@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 239d
when I read "average suck point" I was not expecting science
DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 240d
Most people think "oh, cup so cold, my drink stay cold!"
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 240d
Has any company of any size ever done something actually envrionmentally friendly?
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
Capitalism baby! If nobody buys your environmentally friendly aluminum cups they wonât do much good, and people are more likely to buy a product with âluxuriousâ feeling packaging. Theyâre likely still a net benefit vs plastic solo cups, but the market leads to perverse incentives.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 240d
those aluminum cups make milk taste fantastic. also taste colder for some reason.
Wren@lemmy.today · 69 pts · 240d
Ever heard of Big Deal Custom Cases? They're a company in Winnipeg, Manitoba who started out making road cases for musicians before diversifying into laptops, field equipment, basically anything breakable anyone needed to carry from one place to another.
Imagine what they thought when NASA phoned them up to build giant cases to carry the sails for the James Webb Space Telescope from the manufacturer to their headquarters.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 240d
Probably
AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 240d
For US government contracts that secret echelon is called the lowest bidder lol
Agent641@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 239d
They purposely try to spread it around as much as they can to avoid unbalancing the economic and academic equilibrium of the states.
They would save a lot of money by just building everything in one place, say, Texas or New Mexico, but the cost of running NASA, and the academic expertise required to do so would pull so much economic activity, companies, jobs, taxes, and all the knock on effects to that state that local businesses, residents, land values would all spin out of balance, and the states who missed out would have a noticeable dip in business and income tax revenue. They didn't need to build the Saturn 5 first stage in... Wherever, and then ship it all the way down to the Panama canal and back up to Port Canaveral, but they did it to share the load and the economic stimulus.
LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 240d
What the hell I thought they were just a local place that does work vehicle retrofits and other small stuff. That's awesome.
Wren@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 240d
Yeah! I didn't know until I visited with a friend of Gary Dealy (nicknamed Big Deal.) They have framed photos of the whole process. You should ask about it if you're in there, Gary told us the whole story. Very nice, cool, hilarious people.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 240d
Iâve had one of their cases for my Epiphone for 20+ years now, Iâll be dead long before that thing ever needs replaced.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 60 pts · 240d
Does it really have a resting shocked Pikachu face?
Mok98@feddit.it · 27 pts · 240d
Only from that perspective, the "eyes" are on the supports for the sensor in front of the mirrors
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 9 pts · 240d
It knows it's going to see some shit
Nanook@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 240d
It does
kadu@scribe.disroot.org · 36 pts · 240d
Honestly, I really love glass. What a fantastic material.
frunch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
I've been getting into stained glass lately. The textures and the various "dichroic" styles and swirly colorful patterns on some of them are absolutely amazing. I'm really lucky to live near a giant place that deals specifically in stained glass and it's a treat for the eyes just to look at all the beautiful glass they have there.
TunaLobster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 240d
I took a class on Tiffany style. Super cool stuff. Expensive for the material, but the skill level to get started and have something decent is super low. Glad I learned about it!
frunch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 240d
Nice!! Love that style!
I took a copper-foil stained glass beginners course and turned out a pretty nice 1st attempt. Very excited to see what else i can do... Just in the process of gathering the needed tools and materials to start making some pieces in my own little shop...
arctanthrope@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 240d
you might enjoy this video (Angela Collier - the most important material in science) https://youtu.be/1eUI38MpiYo
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 32 pts · 240d
A bra company made NASA's spacesuits.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/what-did-playtex-have-to-do-with-neil-armstrong-16588944/
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 240d
I saw a documentary about that which was a total hoot. From some stiff necked old coot talking about "At Hamilton Standard we made propellers and transmission gearboxes for military and commercial applications. They made brassieres." To this sharp old girl talking about "I was making baby pants and they asked me if I wanted to try something different. They put me in charge of quality control, and I issued each girl color coded pins. I was examining one suit, and I found a red pin, so I looked up who was issued the red pins and I went over to her and said "Here's your pin" and I stuck her in the behind with it."
I like to think those two are married.
PoopingCough@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
Would love to know the name of the doc if you can remember!
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 240d
Moon Machines Episode 5.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 2 pts · 240d
That's a great story.
Of curse, today the supervisor would be arrested and put on a terrorist watch list.
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 240d
Those things are feats of engineering!
Spacesuits are cool too I guess.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 3 pts · 240d
Suffer like the pig you are!
https://youtu.be/gLTnzo-nd8Q
[jk]
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
They had me at âunladylike karate chopsâ đ¤Ł
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 3 pts · 240d
See the whole movie.
apex32@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 240d
Two cups in the front, two loops in the back. How do they do it?
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 5 pts · 240d
Is there any situation where Seinfeld is inappropriate?
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 240d
When picking up his teenage girlfriend at her high school.
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 240d
::: spoiler Yamaha has entered the chat
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 240d
i really hope they stay in the electric sax game however long it takes me to save up the that much money
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 240d
Still remember the Yamaha paper craft site. So many hours of fun! So sad they closed it
brossman@infosec.pub · 28 pts · 240d
honeywell: has home thermostats also honeywell: need defense/data center/aerospace industry products?
higgsboson@piefed.social · 11 pts · 240d
Honeywell licenses their name for consumer products. They dont actually make that stuff anymore.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 240d
Same with Ball and canning jars.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 240d
And that's only naming a few.
(https://automation.honeywell.com/us/en/products)
mrunicornman@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 240d
I have a cheap Honeywell soundbar. It's quite crappy but enough for podcasts.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf · 26 pts · 240d
And just about half of all beverage cans in the world.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 240d
Homies out here calling a Ball jar a Mason jar... Smh. Practically spitting on the abandoned ruins of Muncie, IN.
Routhinator@startrek.website · 19 pts · 240d
The style is called a Mason jar because John Mason came up with it and made it popular. This is called a Mason jar for this reason.
John Mason was from New Jersey. What does Muncie IL have to do with the Mason jar style?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason_jar
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 240d
Muncie, Indiana
iswas the home of the Ball Corporation, which is the company referenced in this meme. Also of Ball State University, founded by his endowment. Like "Mason jar" before it, "Ball jar" has become a genericized trademark for the object itself, especially in the Midwest.somethingsnappy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 240d
If you don't have a Ball cookbook, do you really cook?
Routhinator@startrek.website · 0 pts · 240d
But what style is a Ball Jar?
If Ball makes a Mason jar, its still a Mason jar, so are all other jars made by Ball just ambiguously "Ball" jars? Or is there a specific design that is referred to as a Ball jar?
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 239d
Well, currently Ball doesn't make any jars, as I understand it. And I don't think it's in Muncie anymore either. So the term is just a holdover.
blackbrook@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 240d
Yeah maybe. Or maybe it's all a Freemason conspiracy, including the Wikipedia page!
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 175d
May be a region thing. A Ball jar is equally genericized and supplants mason especially when used literally. There are still Ball branded ball jars here... not mason... I'll check but I don't think they even use mason in the description.
village604@adultswim.fan · 2 pts · 240d
Ball doesn't even make Mason jars anymore, though.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 175d
They do and don't. Ball doesn't really exist as much more than a brand. Ball branded jars are still a thing.
Hell Ardagh still uses some of the super old ass Ball equipment.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 240d
This is like General Mills, the cereal company, also designing DSV Alvin, the deep sea submersible.
whats_a_lemmy@midwest.social · 4 pts · 240d
what
GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 240d
They also made balloons!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDs8rz7pRLQ
mrunicornman@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 240d
Corning: dinner plates, Gorilla glass, space shuttle windows
SuperUserDO@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 240d
And fiber optic cables!
fossilesque@mander.xyz · 11 pts · 240d
stray@pawb.social · 6 pts · 240d
apotheotic@beehaw.org · 2 pts · 240d
Thank you for this, i had the reverbed "balls" in my head with kurtis' silly face
MightyThistle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 239d
Even the telescope looks surprised!
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 240d
See also: the Apollo Lunar Module (LEM), the humble US Postal Truck (LLV), and the F/A-18 Super Hornet, all made by the Grumman Corporation.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 240d
Ball was spun off and is a subsidiary of Rubbermaid.
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io · 4 pts · 240d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Ball_(businessman)
jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev · 4 pts · 240d
Elite Ball knowledge
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 240d
Capitalism as it is.
Hupf@feddit.org · 0 pts · 239d
Repost