Is this in Minneapolis? If so, will the mayor order the police force to stop acting like they're allied with ICE? (Let's be honest, they mostly are I bet). At some point a city is going to need to force their police force to officially choose sides, or resign if they are unwilling.
MAGA's success owes a lot to the Conservative Propaganda Machine. In a country as big and spread out as ours, having keyboard warriors to spread the message, highlight important stories, organize widespread people, whip up the encouragement and enthusiasm, expose corruption, provide sources, etc. is extremely important.
Not everybody has the ability protest, either physically or geographically, so don't disparage them for making an important and necessary contribution to the cause, just because it doesn't align with what you can do.
Piggy wants to throw his weight around by stepping up and then telling the other guy to back down.
It's a coward move meant to start a fight; he only did it because he has the State backing him up. It makes him look like the pathetic craven fascist in his heart. Try that without a badge and see what happens.
He's just a scared boy with a gun who needs to bully people to feel like a man.
No matter the badge, no matter the skin color, no matter the country. Forever and always ACAB
Edit for the person who deleted their comment:
The people that are upholding systemic oppression and arresting people for opposing genocide are bastards, sorry to tell you.
Nah I don't agree. But a lot are. The left need to stop distancing themselves from every authority they have just because they see some videos. Look where it has got you people. You're about ready to be rounded up into camps and no way to defend yourself. You'd think you'd at least try to make friends with some group that could protect you.
You think the police are here to protect us? C'mon OP, here, in this thread, you're gonna try and spread kumbayah not-all-cops-are-bad police apologia?
No. I think the police protect themselves and their interest. The left need to align the police with their interest. The fact this is missed on you is a big issue
The left need to align the police with their interest.
How do you propose they/we do that when the police have functionally been antithetical to the left's interests across most, if not all, of recorded history? It's not like this is an optics issue; state-sanctioned monopoly on physical violence is literally counter to the entire point of being "to the left".
I don't know but maybe the reason we have these cycles where we have ok societies until the authoritarians decide we got too close to a leftist society is partially because we don't fill these roles. That we ignore it or meme ourselves to be against it leaving authority to the right which means we only maintain civil society at their discretion. There is no world where the left fights back against the police and the military and win. It will only ever be what they let you have. It's gotta change. Even if things go back to some normalcy, as long as we refuse to fill those roles, it'll just be the same until next time.
And it's not police. I was military. The military is more left than people realize. When Trump fired them all, it was such a sad state to not see more people fired up. We saw this coming back then. Protests are cute. But they're nothing without some power behind it. Without police or the military willing to defend your right then your only going to be able to do what they let you.
Ok hold up, let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that the left try and make nice with cops of all people, in a post that you authored showing cops being absolutely reprehensible human beings? Like what are you even here for dude? I honestly do not understand. Why does the left need some protector anyways? Why would you advocate for that specifically, and not for the left to be their own protection?
The left need power and authority. They have nothing without it. They need to put themselves into position of authority or power instead of rejecting it. You're not fighting a revolution without either.
Have you never considered what a left wing police force could look like? What left wing owned business class looks like. We keep failing into these cycles throughout history because we don't change these paradigms. It's like the left gravitate to this idea that to be left you must be poor and powerless. Instead we need to have these groups in society become more left. Much like how the right use groups like heritage foundation or neo nazis secretly put their people in these positions. The left need to wake up and put people in these positions and change the organizations over time.
All the cops I've known, and I've known many, are the worst people you went to high school with. I know a cop that showed me a video of him kicking a handcuffed guy so hard that he shit his pants. Another cop I know used to clasp his hands around his butt when he would fart and then whirl around and smell it. ACAB.
I don't think it's that simple. If you were a good citizen you'd stop the bad ones from doing bad things. Why haven't you? I see bad things all the time
Because it isn't my actual JOB, that's why. That's their job, that they applied for, and we PAY them to do. Nobody is forcing them to be cops. How are we supposed to trust them to clean up crime in our city, when they can't even clean it up in their own workplace?
If someone in my house was an active criminal, I WOULD do something about it, but it's not up to me to do anything about anyone else. That's called vigilante justice, and it's illegal. We hire COPS to do that. Then they won't, because it's too dangerous.
He's just a scared boy with a gun who needs to bully people to feel like a man.
Also he's hoping that his aggressive attitude will distract people from thinking about his micropenis, and how he's never satisfied a woman, but that's her fault, he got his.
When the Civil War kicks off, I hope this fat pig is chasing me. I've been training, I can keep him running until his heart explodes. Should take about half a mile.
If kicking that candle into a pile of dry leaves happened to start a fire, then the police would've blame the protestors for rioting and used it to as justification further crack down on the community.
Anytime this happens, they should vacate any conviction of property destruction/rioting/disorderly conduct and related charges. Why? Same reason as the 4th Amendment “fruit of the poisoned tree” doctrine.
And every law enforcement response to protest should be publicly examined via subpoena in this way.
And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.
Yeah, the shove was more obnoxious than the candle kick in my opinion. Big tough guy wearing body armor, with a retinue of backup, knowing full well he's completely safe from any retaliation, shoves unarmed citizen. Looked like assault to me. If baja jacket shoved him just as hard he'd be arrested at best.
Fun fact, everyone resists arrest, when a person gets grabbed by someone they try to escape or fight back. It is fucking hard wired into us, it's called fight or flight. Resisting arrest is completely made up.
People with fight or flight response problems, like someone with PTSD, walk around all day long praying some fucking dumb ass cop doesn't grab them for no reason. This is what causes humans to fight like a caged animal.
Yup, they deliberately try to provoke anxiety because if you have a panic attack they can book you for disorderly conduct. It's really cruel, especially for people with PTSD like you pointed out. A lot of veterans get arrested that way.
When you sit down at the Nazi table... At least we know exactly where they stand. Boy, the age of instant video publishing sure is troublesome for such people. Now we need to start having consequences, of any type.
This is the problem I think the left has is retaliation.
A lot of people here are yelling about physical violence in retaliation. It's nonsense. First off, nobody in this world is scared of anyone on the left. We've all seen what the left is built like during protests. So it's silly seeing people like 'only good pig is a dead pig'. Everybody sees that and reads it in that squeaky voice like in the video.
The best retaliation is to hit them where it hurts. Start saying this like 'police budgets need to be cut if they're no longer protecting people' jitsu these things. If police want to defend ICE and DHS and people on Minnesota can't do anything about the federal police. Then the only solution is to hit the Minnesota police where they can which is right in they fucking budget. That's what is terrifying. A voting population coming together to cut your funding.
"Only Good pigs is a blah blah blah" is so fucking stupid
We tried that. We had a whole national protest movement, it lasted a year, millions of people were in the streets with the explicit goal of lowering police budgets.
Despite all of that effort, no police budget was defunded. Most police budgets have continued to increase. ICE funding has drastically increased.
So what's your plan to do something different? From where I'm sitting, the "let's kill cops" camp is more realistic than the "let's try the George Floyd protests again, maybe politicians will listen to us this time" camp.
Despite all of that effort, no police budget was defunded. Most police budgets have continued to increase. ICE funding has drastically increased.
Even worse than that the republicans seized on this message and casted the democrats as wanting crime to go up and chaos on the streets. It's how NYC ended up with a corrupt police chief as a mayor and Trump got reelected. Honestly the messaging of "defund the police" was god awful and set back the progressives by years.
Honestly the messaging of "defund the police" was god awful and set back the progressives by years.
100%. Besides choosing to appease MAGA, rather than resist it with every means possible, the "Defund the Police" message was the biggest blunder. It was a poorly chosen phrase, and a poorly managed messaging campaign. It handed MAGA a perfect club to wield against us.
Another stupid, and easily predictable, self-own by the Dems.
It wasn't, it made moves. The problem was that the left are just not smart about these things so they failed. The left have an issue where they have no idea how to apply consistent pressure. They're just not smart. They are resting their laurels on the studies that say leftist are more educated and assuming it means them.
Because taking to the streets doesn't do anything. That's where you lose any momentum. It happens every time. You need to win people over to your position. Violence is not the lefts area. You'll get fucking destroyed. You need to win public opinion. The left need to take back digital spaces and content to drown out every single one of their bullshit nonsense.
The support isn't there. Not like it is needed to be. I can ask people moral questions and they'll answer morally. But that is different than engaging them. The left fails to engage. They try to win things through morality rather than engaging.
Compare trans bathroom issue to killing of Renee. Trans bathroom issue will get a lot of people to vote and impact their beliefs. Killing it Renee won't. Not unless you put out and do the same thing that they did with an issue like trans. It's not just about informing people it's happening. It's about making this issue about them and a threat to their lives as well. The left fails at that every time. They just want to hear that people agree it's bad. That's enough for them to move on. I guarantee next week they'll all have moved on.
Your opinion that the Left is nothing to fear is a really stupid take.
Nobody wants to be the one to kick off a Civil War, but once it starts, and all government systems break down, TV broadcasts start going off the air, phones get sketchy, jobs start closing down, money stops flowing, and food gets scarce, we will spontaneously flip to a Robin Hood Economy, and you'll see just how dangerous the Left can be.
If stores don't have food, or people don't have money to buy it, they'll just take it, and after that, they go to the rich neighborhoods, and loot them next. Then we'll see if anyone fears the Left.
Nobody fears the left. There's no reality where the left succeededs when shit hits the fan. Leftist turn their nose up at people who prepped and armed themselves their whole lives. We're on lemme because most of us couldn't handle reading comments or seeing posts we didn't like. I can't express how fucked anyone on the left will be if society collapses in the way you described. They are extremely unprepared.
It's kind of my point about control online narrative vs protesting. What's the sense of protesting if you can't even muster a defense of your opinions online. Protests are extremely high effort and energy requiring tasks which are extremely hard to be successful. Posting online is much easier to create awareness. But the left failed to control online spaces but jumped to telling everyone to protest while mocking anyone saying they should focus on digital spaces.
The left is struggling to get any wins. Trying to succeed in a collapsed society field with opposing groups who lived their entire lives dreaming of that scenario is not going to go well.
😆 I love the attitude but it is terrifying when you see what these people look like who are the loudest and angriest on both sides political. One side is a 300 lbs cop who beats his wife and kids and the other is a noodle armed 28 year old in skinny jeans who never got a driver's license because driving is stressful
Every video of cops nowadays further cements my ideas that they're top tier shit stains, don't deserve to walk this earth and share oxygen with citizens. Fuck cops til the end of time.
The wonder of human's compassion is that even when this pig evetually suffocate in it's vomit, there would be someone who would act sad about it's passing.
Just click/tap the link to go directly on imgur. It's imgur that blocks hotlinking and forbids other sites to display its images. They want people to go on their website, watch ads, stay captive.
Imgur is a terrible place to host images if they're not intended to be viewed on imgur.
Ah, that would explain it then. I didn't realise it was hosted on imgur (Voyager makes it look like it's hosted natively). Imgur is blocked in the UK because we're not much better than America when it comes to authoritarianism, we're just more subtle.
No, they blocked the UK because they we threatened with a fine for selling children's browsing habits (that they themselves had tagged as children). Rather than simply filter out the children they geoblocked the whole country. This was before the porn registration legislation came into effect, but they like people to think it's that because that sounds like they're heroes rather than creeps. Imgur corporate thanks you for continuing to spread this disinformation.
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Arghblarg@lemmy.ca · 158 pts · 248d
Is this in Minneapolis? If so, will the mayor order the police force to stop acting like they're allied with ICE? (Let's be honest, they mostly are I bet). At some point a city is going to need to force their police force to officially choose sides, or resign if they are unwilling.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 248d
their badges say "POLICE DHS"
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 55 pts · 248d
These are DHS uniforms made to look like local police
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 24 pts · 248d
These are ICE agents or some other variety of federal law enforcement based on their DHS badges.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 248d
dublet@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 248d
Suggested to be in Sacramento https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3mbwag5v33k27
anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 247d
Came here for this clarification - Minneapolis has far more snow and ice on the ground this week than what's shown
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 247d
Other than "because of BLM", cooperation with local law enforcement would be a good reason for ICE to focus efforts there.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social · 1 pts · 248d
I haven't come across any American heroes yet. Just word smiths.
adminofoz@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 247d
John Brown was the last one we had and the state killed him.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 247d
MAGA's success owes a lot to the Conservative Propaganda Machine. In a country as big and spread out as ours, having keyboard warriors to spread the message, highlight important stories, organize widespread people, whip up the encouragement and enthusiasm, expose corruption, provide sources, etc. is extremely important.
Not everybody has the ability protest, either physically or geographically, so don't disparage them for making an important and necessary contribution to the cause, just because it doesn't align with what you can do.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 134 pts · 248d
Fuck pigs
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 248d
Pigs are intelligent, emotional, and cognitively complex. They don't deserve to be dragged down to the same level as the pond scum with a badge that did this.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 248d
Fuck 12, then
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 247d
True, but what about the "two legs good, four legs bad" variety?
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 248d
I said those very words out loud when I watched.
ACAB.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 248d
what are you, the British prime minister?
galaxy_nova@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 248d
One might call that… a deep cut
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 133 pts · 248d
Piggy wants to throw his weight around by stepping up and then telling the other guy to back down.
It's a coward move meant to start a fight; he only did it because he has the State backing him up. It makes him look like the pathetic craven fascist in his heart. Try that without a badge and see what happens.
He's just a scared boy with a gun who needs to bully people to feel like a man.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 248d
boaratio@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 248d
ACAB, no matter what badge they wear.
Mac@mander.xyz · 17 pts · 248d
No matter the badge, no matter the skin color, no matter the country. Forever and always ACAB
Edit for the person who deleted their comment:
The people that are upholding systemic oppression and arresting people for opposing genocide are bastards, sorry to tell you.
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 247d
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -24 pts · 248d
Nah I don't agree. But a lot are. The left need to stop distancing themselves from every authority they have just because they see some videos. Look where it has got you people. You're about ready to be rounded up into camps and no way to defend yourself. You'd think you'd at least try to make friends with some group that could protect you.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 248d
You think the police are here to protect us? C'mon OP, here, in this thread, you're gonna try and spread kumbayah not-all-cops-are-bad police apologia?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 248d
No. I think the police protect themselves and their interest. The left need to align the police with their interest. The fact this is missed on you is a big issue
Jayjader@jlai.lu · 9 pts · 248d
How do you propose they/we do that when the police have functionally been antithetical to the left's interests across most, if not all, of recorded history? It's not like this is an optics issue; state-sanctioned monopoly on physical violence is literally counter to the entire point of being "to the left".
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 248d
I don't know but maybe the reason we have these cycles where we have ok societies until the authoritarians decide we got too close to a leftist society is partially because we don't fill these roles. That we ignore it or meme ourselves to be against it leaving authority to the right which means we only maintain civil society at their discretion. There is no world where the left fights back against the police and the military and win. It will only ever be what they let you have. It's gotta change. Even if things go back to some normalcy, as long as we refuse to fill those roles, it'll just be the same until next time.
And it's not police. I was military. The military is more left than people realize. When Trump fired them all, it was such a sad state to not see more people fired up. We saw this coming back then. Protests are cute. But they're nothing without some power behind it. Without police or the military willing to defend your right then your only going to be able to do what they let you.
nomy@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 248d
So you're telling leftists to "align" themselves with police (the state)?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 248d
No I'm saying the left has to figure out how it will get those to align with it
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 248d
Ok hold up, let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that the left try and make nice with cops of all people, in a post that you authored showing cops being absolutely reprehensible human beings? Like what are you even here for dude? I honestly do not understand. Why does the left need some protector anyways? Why would you advocate for that specifically, and not for the left to be their own protection?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 247d
The left need power and authority. They have nothing without it. They need to put themselves into position of authority or power instead of rejecting it. You're not fighting a revolution without either.
Have you never considered what a left wing police force could look like? What left wing owned business class looks like. We keep failing into these cycles throughout history because we don't change these paradigms. It's like the left gravitate to this idea that to be left you must be poor and powerless. Instead we need to have these groups in society become more left. Much like how the right use groups like heritage foundation or neo nazis secretly put their people in these positions. The left need to wake up and put people in these positions and change the organizations over time.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 248d
The police exist to protect capital. It is impossible for the left to align with their interests
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 248d
Imagine defending cops and complaining about concentration camps in the same comment. Wild.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 248d
I'm not defending cops pull your head out from your legs and you'd see that
boaratio@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 247d
All the cops I've known, and I've known many, are the worst people you went to high school with. I know a cop that showed me a video of him kicking a handcuffed guy so hard that he shit his pants. Another cop I know used to clasp his hands around his butt when he would fart and then whirl around and smell it. ACAB.
Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 248d
Hey, fuck you
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 247d
If you are a "good" cop, then you would do everything you could to clean up your police force, and get rid of the bad ones.
But they don't. At best, they look the other way from abuse. That makes them complicit.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 247d
I don't think it's that simple. If you were a good citizen you'd stop the bad ones from doing bad things. Why haven't you? I see bad things all the time
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 247d
Because it isn't my actual JOB, that's why. That's their job, that they applied for, and we PAY them to do. Nobody is forcing them to be cops. How are we supposed to trust them to clean up crime in our city, when they can't even clean it up in their own workplace?
If someone in my house was an active criminal, I WOULD do something about it, but it's not up to me to do anything about anyone else. That's called vigilante justice, and it's illegal. We hire COPS to do that. Then they won't, because it's too dangerous.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 247d
This sums up why the left is never winning a fucking thing anytime soon. It's not my job
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 248d
This.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 247d
Also he's hoping that his aggressive attitude will distract people from thinking about his micropenis, and how he's never satisfied a woman, but that's her fault, he got his.
awfulawful@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 131 pts · 248d
Nothing screams "I'm an enormous loser who must project my insecurity onto the world" like kicking over a candle at a dead person's memorial.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 94 pts · 248d
Train in de-escalading tactics I see
neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 248d
If they wanted de-esc training to stick, they should have had it at Waffle House and covered it in gravy.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 248d
What a pathetic fat, fascist that hides behind a badge to push a guy.
Goodietwozapatos@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 248d
First thing I noticed. How fat is that clown? Jesus christ
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 247d
When the Civil War kicks off, I hope this fat pig is chasing me. I've been training, I can keep him running until his heart explodes. Should take about half a mile.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 248d
Should be open season now.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 248d
For a while
Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat@lemmy.ca · 61 pts · 248d
If kicking that candle into a pile of dry leaves happened to start a fire, then the police would've blame the protestors for rioting and used it to as justification further crack down on the community.
nukeforyou@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 248d
They just have police go plain clothes and then stir up shit to do that
Taleya@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 248d
They never take off the shoes tho. Dead giveaway
themaninblack@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 248d
Anytime this happens, they should vacate any conviction of property destruction/rioting/disorderly conduct and related charges. Why? Same reason as the 4th Amendment “fruit of the poisoned tree” doctrine.
And every law enforcement response to protest should be publicly examined via subpoena in this way.
daisykutter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 248d
Laws, right?
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 53 pts · 248d
Chunky Monkey is all tough in that get up with his mates. Do you think he'd do the same thing if he was in normal clothes and all alone?
andyburke@fedia.io · 29 pts · 248d
You mean assault that guy like he did, pushing him provocatively in the chest? Doubtful.
RePsyche@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 248d
Came here to say that indeed was assault, by a DHS officer in an attempt to escalate a confrontation.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 248d
Fucking piece of shit pig.
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 248d
They're telling us they don't want peace and there aren't that many of them.
cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 248d
BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 248d
Obviously he is referring to his own blood in that statement
Xenny@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 248d
You know how when you call the cops they don't come till 3 hours later? They can't possibly handle all of us, not even a tenth
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 248d
How's this?
ICE is telling us they don’t want peace
and there aren’t that many of them.
ICE is better known for “other” thinking.
I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 248d
Deescalation training at work.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 28 pts · 247d
Who are those pigs? Names, we want names. Make their kids embarrassed to go to school, make their wives embarrassed to go to church.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 248d
I hope someone shoots that piece of shit.
in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 247d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
You are a bigot and a victim blamer. Have the day you deserve.
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 247d
ACAB just keeps getting more and more validated.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 247d
It's a rule.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 248d
ACAB
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 24 pts · 247d
Fucking asshole gets in the dude's face and then tells him to back up. Fascist.
Hylactor@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 247d
Yeah, the shove was more obnoxious than the candle kick in my opinion. Big tough guy wearing body armor, with a retinue of backup, knowing full well he's completely safe from any retaliation, shoves unarmed citizen. Looked like assault to me. If baja jacket shoved him just as hard he'd be arrested at best.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 247d
They were probably trying to provoke him so they would have a reason to arrest him.
Cops shouldn't be allowed to touch civilians unless they have a reason to make an arrest.
Like if the only charge is "resisting arrest"... Why the fuck were they trying to make an arrest in the first place?
But they're professionals at making up bs charges. "Trespassing" in public... "Disorderly conduct" is somewhat of a catch-all...
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev · 6 pts · 247d
Fun fact, everyone resists arrest, when a person gets grabbed by someone they try to escape or fight back. It is fucking hard wired into us, it's called fight or flight. Resisting arrest is completely made up. People with fight or flight response problems, like someone with PTSD, walk around all day long praying some fucking dumb ass cop doesn't grab them for no reason. This is what causes humans to fight like a caged animal.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 247d
Yup, they deliberately try to provoke anxiety because if you have a panic attack they can book you for disorderly conduct. It's really cruel, especially for people with PTSD like you pointed out. A lot of veterans get arrested that way.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 23 pts · 248d
When you sit down at the Nazi table... At least we know exactly where they stand. Boy, the age of instant video publishing sure is troublesome for such people. Now we need to start having consequences, of any type.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -31 pts · 248d
This is the problem I think the left has is retaliation.
A lot of people here are yelling about physical violence in retaliation. It's nonsense. First off, nobody in this world is scared of anyone on the left. We've all seen what the left is built like during protests. So it's silly seeing people like 'only good pig is a dead pig'. Everybody sees that and reads it in that squeaky voice like in the video.
The best retaliation is to hit them where it hurts. Start saying this like 'police budgets need to be cut if they're no longer protecting people' jitsu these things. If police want to defend ICE and DHS and people on Minnesota can't do anything about the federal police. Then the only solution is to hit the Minnesota police where they can which is right in they fucking budget. That's what is terrifying. A voting population coming together to cut your funding.
"Only Good pigs is a blah blah blah" is so fucking stupid
Krono@lemmy.today · 34 pts · 248d
We tried that. We had a whole national protest movement, it lasted a year, millions of people were in the streets with the explicit goal of lowering police budgets.
Despite all of that effort, no police budget was defunded. Most police budgets have continued to increase. ICE funding has drastically increased.
So what's your plan to do something different? From where I'm sitting, the "let's kill cops" camp is more realistic than the "let's try the George Floyd protests again, maybe politicians will listen to us this time" camp.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 248d
Even worse than that the republicans seized on this message and casted the democrats as wanting crime to go up and chaos on the streets. It's how NYC ended up with a corrupt police chief as a mayor and Trump got reelected. Honestly the messaging of "defund the police" was god awful and set back the progressives by years.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 247d
100%. Besides choosing to appease MAGA, rather than resist it with every means possible, the "Defund the Police" message was the biggest blunder. It was a poorly chosen phrase, and a poorly managed messaging campaign. It handed MAGA a perfect club to wield against us.
Another stupid, and easily predictable, self-own by the Dems.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 248d
It wasn't, it made moves. The problem was that the left are just not smart about these things so they failed. The left have an issue where they have no idea how to apply consistent pressure. They're just not smart. They are resting their laurels on the studies that say leftist are more educated and assuming it means them.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 248d
Because taking to the streets doesn't do anything. That's where you lose any momentum. It happens every time. You need to win people over to your position. Violence is not the lefts area. You'll get fucking destroyed. You need to win public opinion. The left need to take back digital spaces and content to drown out every single one of their bullshit nonsense.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 248d
Pretty sure the dominant majority supports the idea of Rene Good still being alive.
I've literally NEVER heard anyone besides trump and noem say they support ICE killing people.
The support is there. The action isn't.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 248d
The support isn't there. Not like it is needed to be. I can ask people moral questions and they'll answer morally. But that is different than engaging them. The left fails to engage. They try to win things through morality rather than engaging.
Compare trans bathroom issue to killing of Renee. Trans bathroom issue will get a lot of people to vote and impact their beliefs. Killing it Renee won't. Not unless you put out and do the same thing that they did with an issue like trans. It's not just about informing people it's happening. It's about making this issue about them and a threat to their lives as well. The left fails at that every time. They just want to hear that people agree it's bad. That's enough for them to move on. I guarantee next week they'll all have moved on.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 247d
Your opinion that the Left is nothing to fear is a really stupid take.
Nobody wants to be the one to kick off a Civil War, but once it starts, and all government systems break down, TV broadcasts start going off the air, phones get sketchy, jobs start closing down, money stops flowing, and food gets scarce, we will spontaneously flip to a Robin Hood Economy, and you'll see just how dangerous the Left can be.
If stores don't have food, or people don't have money to buy it, they'll just take it, and after that, they go to the rich neighborhoods, and loot them next. Then we'll see if anyone fears the Left.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 247d
Nobody fears the left. There's no reality where the left succeededs when shit hits the fan. Leftist turn their nose up at people who prepped and armed themselves their whole lives. We're on lemme because most of us couldn't handle reading comments or seeing posts we didn't like. I can't express how fucked anyone on the left will be if society collapses in the way you described. They are extremely unprepared.
It's kind of my point about control online narrative vs protesting. What's the sense of protesting if you can't even muster a defense of your opinions online. Protests are extremely high effort and energy requiring tasks which are extremely hard to be successful. Posting online is much easier to create awareness. But the left failed to control online spaces but jumped to telling everyone to protest while mocking anyone saying they should focus on digital spaces.
The left is struggling to get any wins. Trying to succeed in a collapsed society field with opposing groups who lived their entire lives dreaming of that scenario is not going to go well.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 247d
Good. They'll never see it coming.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 247d
😆 I love the attitude but it is terrifying when you see what these people look like who are the loudest and angriest on both sides political. One side is a 300 lbs cop who beats his wife and kids and the other is a noodle armed 28 year old in skinny jeans who never got a driver's license because driving is stressful
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 247d
Judging people with sweeping generalizations is what got us here in the first place.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 247d
Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 248d
1312
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 248d
What does that mean?
tab@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 248d
replace digits with letters of the alphabet
aceshigh@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 248d
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 248d
It stands for All Cops Are Bastards.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 247d
Google is your friend pal!
modus@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 247d
Kill the Police.
ViceroTempus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 247d
I think its time to have a good ol' fashion Pork BBQ.
Molotov Cocktails are back on the menu, peeps.
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 248d
RePsyche@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 248d
How about doxing cop 1, and/or cop 2?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 248d
I think they have
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 247d
Every video of cops nowadays further cements my ideas that they're top tier shit stains, don't deserve to walk this earth and share oxygen with citizens. Fuck cops til the end of time.
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 247d
I thought we fired people for repeating Kirk's own words. Now those same people are slandering an average American citizen.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 248d
Thugs plan and simple.
whitecollarcry@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 248d
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 247d
The barbarians were at the gate all along and ICE hired them. What a shitshow.
III@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 247d
To avoid confusion... ICE hired them BECAUSE they were barbarians.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 246d
Thanks for the clarity!
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 248d
The wonder of human's compassion is that even when this pig evetually suffocate in it's vomit, there would be someone who would act sad about it's passing.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 248d
Anyone got a mirror?
pedz@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 248d
Just click/tap the link to go directly on imgur. It's imgur that blocks hotlinking and forbids other sites to display its images. They want people to go on their website, watch ads, stay captive.
Imgur is a terrible place to host images if they're not intended to be viewed on imgur.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 248d
Ah, that would explain it then. I didn't realise it was hosted on imgur (Voyager makes it look like it's hosted natively). Imgur is blocked in the UK because we're not much better than America when it comes to authoritarianism, we're just more subtle.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 248d
Imgur is blocked?? That's wild.
hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 248d
Imgur blocked the UK so that they're not required to collect people's IDs.
davidagain@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 248d
No, they blocked the UK because they we threatened with a fine for selling children's browsing habits (that they themselves had tagged as children). Rather than simply filter out the children they geoblocked the whole country. This was before the porn registration legislation came into effect, but they like people to think it's that because that sounds like they're heroes rather than creeps. Imgur corporate thanks you for continuing to spread this disinformation.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 248d
"Identify yourself before being allowed to post on the community bulletin board, citizen"
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 248d
Best I can do is a Facebook post
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1554902492467523&vanity=TheLeftDotOrg
Zombie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 248d
It ain't perfect but it works, thanks!
circuitfarmer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 248d
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 248d
What city was this in? I don't think its Minneapolis judging by sandals.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 248d
DC, maybe... Only reason is they have 'DHS' badging along with 'police' ones.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 248d
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 6 pts · 247d
That cop's grave should become a public restroom, preferably soon
pfr@piefed.social · 5 pts · 248d
Video link is dead?
bss03@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 248d
https://imgur.com/D4DsUtX still works for me (US; no VPN)
pfr@piefed.social · 5 pts · 248d
Thanks. For some reason the embedded video doesn't work for me.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 246d
Those fucking goons really hate their own citizenry (and all things outside the bad old usa).
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 248d
Do you have another source? It's not working for me.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 248d
https://people.com/dhs-officer-seen-kicking-over-candle-at-memorial-for-renee-nicole-good-11881658
davidagain@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 248d
"Content not available in your region". Do you have an open access link from something less corporate?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 248d
I actually uploaded the video right to lemme. It should just by a video that lemme plays
davidagain@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 248d
It's just links to imgur at this end.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 248d
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 248d
Point blank. No sweat off my sack.
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 248d
ACAN
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 248d
Is Tim Walz paying attention? This guy gave such a shit speech... Make that mayor the governor instead.
tab@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 248d
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 247d
Fuck the police comin' straight out the underground!