Because spicy is not a flavor. Spicy is more like an allergic reaction to a chemical that certain plants excrete as a defense mechanism. Humans are just weirdos because we enjoy our mouths and buttholes being on fire.
Acktachully, your entire digestive system is lined with taste buds! They aren’t hooked into your normal sensory awareness, so you don’t taste your own digestive juices the way you taste your mouth, but they are used for sensing things like spoiled food and spice! Those receptors can trigger ejection of material if it’s bad enough (diarrhea/vomiting, depending where in the tract it sensed bad stuff). That’s why sometimes after something very spicy, your guts burn.
The chemical is capsaicin, and it's a neurotoxin. That's why with repeated exposure you can start to gain resistance.
Birds are less sensitive to capsaicin, which made having it around seeds beneficial for plants. Birds eat the seeds and then spread them after flying somewhere else, but mammals are deterred from eating the seeds and they are poor vectors for spread because most mammals that eat large amounts of vegetable matter have molar teeth that aid in breaking down small seeds for digestion.
Until a certain mammal decided they liked the burn, and deliberately spread those plants further than birds ever did.
argument: we normally think of five flavors (salty, savory, sour, sweet, bitter) but without spicy the meal is not complete. shit, some people consider slimy a flavor and that's fair.
i've eaten the peppers but never gotten the numbing people told me i was supposed to get to that's why i've been confused relating specifically to szechuan peppers my entire adult life
You should see if you can find some Japanese pepper. I find it has a stronger effect than the Szechuan ones. It's not like a numbing so much, but it makes your lips tingle without making your tongue burn.
Or maybe the problem is just needing the fresh varieties instead of dried. Even black pepper can be comparatively spicy when eaten fresh.
The effect they're talking about comes from the peppercorns, not the peppers. You heat them slightly in a pan and then grind them in a mortar and pestle. I run them through a fine strainer after that, but I dunno if you have to.
Ginger is one of seven times spiciness has independently evolved: gingerol, allicin (garlic), capsaicinoids (chili peppers), allyl isothiocyanate (mustard, horseradish, wasabi), piperine (black pepper), eugenol (cloves) and alkylamides (Sichuan peppers, which are distinct from chilis). They're all functionally pungent, but chemically distinct: meaning no single shared class.
Spicy isn’t a taste or a smell, it is a sensation caused by the compounds lowering the threshold to activate of heat detecting nerves too below the ambient temperature of the human body. It’s basically making you burn your self.
Lots of other “flavors” are also like this, lowering the threshold of firing for certain sensory nerves. Sichuan pepper for instance, it lowers the threshold for movement sensing, causing the bizarre tingle waving sensation.
Those heat sensing compounds exist all over your body, not just in your mouth.
Not always. Black pepper contains Piperine which also effects the TRPV1 sensing protein like capsaicin, if a bit weaker. Horseradish, mustard and wasabi have Allyl isothiocyanate which affects TRPV1 but also TRPA1 which triggers pain cold and itching response, leading to coughing and tearing.
There are a fair amount of other compounds that effect the TRPV1 and plenty of other similar receptors.
If our assholes had taste buds, you better believe there would be a whole category of dietary supplements aimed at making our shit taste good. Then there would be a backlash movement consisting of people who are proud to shit naturally and taste it.
I have sat here, staring at your content for far too long trying to figure out what groom may mean in this context. I've decided it means hairstyle, or visual-assessment condition. I will look it up and see if I'm right or I need to pluck my eyeballs out. Or both.
I like spicy things. I eat spicy things all the time. One time maybe 10 years ago I ate a "stinger" pie from a pizza place. It was a pizza with hot peppers and hot pepper oil. It was so spicy and so so good.
The events that occurred in the next 24 hours were something to behold. I was sitting on the toilet, sweating, shaking, and making my peace with God. It was an all day event. Full throttle.
Since then, my intestinal fortitude has been severely diminished. I have to be careful about eating things too spicy or it will mess me up. It's like I built up a thick intestinal lining over years and years, and this one event tore down the walls. They were blasted out.
The anus isn't unique in having bodily reactions to irritants (capsaicin), people just don't expect things to not break down fully after they're ingested. No one talks about being surprised that your eye or nostril gets irritated if you have hot sauce on your fingers (nor would they be surprised by a burning sensation from hot sauce applied directly to butthole).
This is generally true for most people, but no. When you eat really spicy food, especially something that actually has hot pepper seeds in it...it may be spicy on the way out, too.
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kboos1@lemmy.world · 179 pts · 196d
Because spicy is not a flavor. Spicy is more like an allergic reaction to a chemical that certain plants excrete as a defense mechanism. Humans are just weirdos because we enjoy our mouths and buttholes being on fire.
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 99 pts · 196d
Plant: develops high amounts of capsaicin to ward off predators
Humans: ooh, this would be great with chicken!
Plant: am I a joke to you?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 196d
Humans: YOU TWO PLANTS NEED TO FUCK, I NEED YOUR OFFSPRING TO BE HOTTER
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk · 30 pts · 196d
*Humans: YOU TWO
PLANTSNEED TO FUCK, I NEED YOUR OFFSPRING TO BE HOTTERcapt_wolf@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 196d
Similarly:
Yeast: I'm going to eat all this sugar and produce a toxin that will kill off competing organisms!
Humans: HAHA! Funny juice make head all silly...
the_beber@feddit.org · 9 pts · 196d
Well… it‘s also killing humans, so… plan worked ig?
phcorcoran@piefed.social · 15 pts · 195d
tomi000@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 196d
It is not meant to ward off predators though. Being eaten is the goal, thats how the seeds are scattered.
thevoidzero@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 196d
It is to ward off mammals. Their goal is to be eaten by birds, birds can't taste capsaicin, so it's just normal food. And birds distribute the seeds.
darvocet@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 196d
I eat a lot of pepper and I never poop out seeds. Nerd.
Dojan@pawb.social · 2 pts · 195d
Not to get all up in your business but wow, you're being really lazy and disrupting the circle of life here buddy. You should poop more seeds.
Dagamant@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 196d
Maybe it’s just the mouth part we enjoy and the other we tolerate.
orb360@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 196d
Speak for yourself while I go boof some jalapeños
Triumph@fedia.io · 8 pts · 196d
Just the tip. You don't have receptors in your colon.
ButteryMonkey@piefed.social · 46 pts · 196d
Ooh I get to be that guy!
Acktachully, your entire digestive system is lined with taste buds! They aren’t hooked into your normal sensory awareness, so you don’t taste your own digestive juices the way you taste your mouth, but they are used for sensing things like spoiled food and spice! Those receptors can trigger ejection of material if it’s bad enough (diarrhea/vomiting, depending where in the tract it sensed bad stuff). That’s why sometimes after something very spicy, your guts burn.
https://askabiologist.asu.edu/taste-outside-mouth general info about digestive system taste buds
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23886384/ This one is specifically about taste receptors in the colon
msage@programming.dev · 8 pts · 196d
I love this, thank you very much.
It's an interesting fact.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 195d
Not taste, but I do feel when my dipshit stomach decides to flood itself with acid until I put something into it.
starik@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 196d
I’m also going to raise my hand here to say I only enjoy mouth spiciness
jmill@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 196d
The chemical is capsaicin, and it's a neurotoxin. That's why with repeated exposure you can start to gain resistance.
Birds are less sensitive to capsaicin, which made having it around seeds beneficial for plants. Birds eat the seeds and then spread them after flying somewhere else, but mammals are deterred from eating the seeds and they are poor vectors for spread because most mammals that eat large amounts of vegetable matter have molar teeth that aid in breaking down small seeds for digestion.
Until a certain mammal decided they liked the burn, and deliberately spread those plants further than birds ever did.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
argument: we normally think of five flavors (salty, savory, sour, sweet, bitter) but without spicy the meal is not complete. shit, some people consider slimy a flavor and that's fair.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 196d
There's also menthol and whatever compound is in Szechuan pepper.
OMG, now I'm craving Mapo Tofu.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
i ran out of coffee beans and tea just doesn't cut it are we talking a different spicy? is it that numbing effect some people get?
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 196d
Numbing kind of, but it more feels like vibration or “buzzing”, it's hard to describe
exu@feditown.com · 2 pts · 196d
Built-in vibrator?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
i've eaten the peppers but never gotten the numbing people told me i was supposed to get to that's why i've been confused relating specifically to szechuan peppers my entire adult life
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 195d
You should see if you can find some Japanese pepper. I find it has a stronger effect than the Szechuan ones. It's not like a numbing so much, but it makes your lips tingle without making your tongue burn.
Or maybe the problem is just needing the fresh varieties instead of dried. Even black pepper can be comparatively spicy when eaten fresh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanthoxylum_piperitum
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 195d
dude my spice cabinet has 12 types of peppers in it you gotta be more specific
qqq@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 195d
The effect they're talking about comes from the peppercorns, not the peppers. You heat them slightly in a pan and then grind them in a mortar and pestle. I run them through a fine strainer after that, but I dunno if you have to.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 196d
capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 196d
I'm reminded of this Uwos video...
puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 196d
uwo slab!!
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 196d
If you can feel the heat when it comes out, doesn't that mean we kinda... do? 🤔
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 195d
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 55 pts · 196d
Because I guarantee you that it no longer tastes like pancakes.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 26 pts · 196d
On second thought, maybe I don't want tastebuds just inside my asshole.
starik@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 196d
That would be a creative curse
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 5 pts · 196d
There was a web comic I saw years ago. Two dudes find a genie one of them wishes that the other guy has tastebuds in his asshole.
WarTowel@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 196d
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 3 pts · 196d
Yep that's it.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 196d
I never remember what I ate last night for dinner, unless I've had corn
Marthirial@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 196d
Or beets, which for the first 10 seconds you think you have Ebola... And then ah, yeah, the beets!
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 196d
I do remember when I was a kid wondering what happened, then remembered I had a slurpee. (Blue Raspberry)
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 196d
This is absolutely not true, your butthole can also taste menthol.
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 196d
Menthol is just cool spicy
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 195d
How many flavors of spicy are there?
Edit: just saw Qualia's comment directly below here
Ruthalas@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 196d
And ginger.
qualia@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 196d
Ginger is one of seven times spiciness has independently evolved: gingerol, allicin (garlic), capsaicinoids (chili peppers), allyl isothiocyanate (mustard, horseradish, wasabi), piperine (black pepper), eugenol (cloves) and alkylamides (Sichuan peppers, which are distinct from chilis). They're all functionally pungent, but chemically distinct: meaning no single shared class.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 195d
Yeah, but how many can your butthole taste?
mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org · 34 pts · 196d
Spicy is not a flavor, but literally a pain stimulus.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 195d
Butt pain stimulus huehuehue
pno2nr@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 196d
They're even spicier when you put the pepper directly in your ass.
TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 196d
Did you know your urethra can also taste spicy? Try sounding a Thai chili pepper!
DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 196d
Sounding?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 196d
A fetish where people stick things up their urethra.
DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 196d
I will go to my grave assuming you are joking. No need for further detail.
tauonite@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
It's usually done vith rods
texture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
you asked, they told. simple as.
cloudskater@pawb.social · 1 pts · 195d
probablymissing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
i will not fall into my grave until i find out if this was joke or not. there is much need for further detail.
TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 196d
It's not a joke. I'm not personally into it, but a few people enjoy it.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 195d
Its real people both pleasure themselves and destroy their penis sometimes looked it up did not believe it was real
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 9 pts · 196d
Rubbing one around the balloon knot is quite affective if penetration is too much for you.
texture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
it took me a minute to finish deciphering this, glad i hung in there
boogiebored@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 196d
😩
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 25 pts · 195d
Spicy isn’t a taste or a smell, it is a sensation caused by the compounds lowering the threshold to activate of heat detecting nerves too below the ambient temperature of the human body. It’s basically making you burn your self.
Lots of other “flavors” are also like this, lowering the threshold of firing for certain sensory nerves. Sichuan pepper for instance, it lowers the threshold for movement sensing, causing the bizarre tingle waving sensation.
Those heat sensing compounds exist all over your body, not just in your mouth.
DevilsJaundice@europe.pub · 3 pts · 195d
All over, you say?
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 195d
Yes, this is why pepper spray sucks even if it doesn’t get in your mouth.
Gumus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 195d
Warming massage oil also contains capsaicin.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 195d
That compound is capsaicin.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 195d
Not always. Black pepper contains Piperine which also effects the TRPV1 sensing protein like capsaicin, if a bit weaker. Horseradish, mustard and wasabi have Allyl isothiocyanate which affects TRPV1 but also TRPA1 which triggers pain cold and itching response, leading to coughing and tearing.
There are a fair amount of other compounds that effect the TRPV1 and plenty of other similar receptors.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 196d
Become gluten intolerant and your wish will become a reality.
enphurgen@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 196d
Easy fix, just put spicy peppers in your pancakes
texture@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
easier fix, just boof it
qualia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 196d
Butt chugging: next season on Hot Ones.
texture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 196d
im putting a reminder in my calendar now
bearoftheisle@europe.pub · 14 pts · 196d
I don't think OOP has thought this one through, tasting things through my butt would be one of the last things I'd wish for
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 195d
If our assholes had taste buds, you better believe there would be a whole category of dietary supplements aimed at making our shit taste good. Then there would be a backlash movement consisting of people who are proud to shit naturally and taste it.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 195d
We already have an entire subset of people who are proud to eat shit.
Karl@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 195d
You wouldn't want to feel some sweet diarrhea?
Xanthrax@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 195d
I see we're having a debate about tasting shit. May I politely ask, would you like to "eat shit"?
Personally, nah.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 195d
To some, hilarity.
To others, science.
To others, horror.
To... Others.... Pleasure :(
I'm of the first three.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 195d
Your body absorbs all good flavors except spicy. Be happy.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 195d
Either that or some sick fucks of you here need to do some experimenting for all of us. For science.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 195d
I can see the headline now:
"World descending into World War III, meanwhile, obscure internet forum discovers horrible new way to diagnose illness"
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 195d
Poop has always been a way to assess health.
Exhibit A: the groom of the stool.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 195d
I have sat here, staring at your content for far too long trying to figure out what groom may mean in this context. I've decided it means hairstyle, or visual-assessment condition. I will look it up and see if I'm right or I need to pluck my eyeballs out. Or both.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 195d
Lmgtfy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool
fubarx@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 196d
Tried making spicy pancakes. Would NOT recommend.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 196d
Jalapeño and bacon pancakes are a thing.
IDontEvenGoHere@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 196d
I've made pancakes with maple syrup and chili crisp and it was delicious! Highly recommend.
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 196d
Kimchijeon, haemul pajeon, dosas. All very good things
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
mildly spicy okonomiyaki sounds great actually
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 195d
I bet something like cinnamon, ginger, cloves, or mustard would work alright with pancakes.
TheHotze@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 196d
So I'm scared to ask, but what do you mean your butt can taste spicy?
texture@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 196d
people who dont have a built up tolerance to hot spice just plain love talking about how their butts feel.
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 195d
I envy you that you've never taken a shit with your sphincter on fire and a tear rolling down your face
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 195d
I like spicy things. I eat spicy things all the time. One time maybe 10 years ago I ate a "stinger" pie from a pizza place. It was a pizza with hot peppers and hot pepper oil. It was so spicy and so so good.
The events that occurred in the next 24 hours were something to behold. I was sitting on the toilet, sweating, shaking, and making my peace with God. It was an all day event. Full throttle.
Since then, my intestinal fortitude has been severely diminished. I have to be careful about eating things too spicy or it will mess me up. It's like I built up a thick intestinal lining over years and years, and this one event tore down the walls. They were blasted out.
Life has not been the same.
rapchee@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 196d
if you eat spicy enough food, it will sting on the way out too
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 195d
The anus isn't unique in having bodily reactions to irritants (capsaicin), people just don't expect things to not break down fully after they're ingested. No one talks about being surprised that your eye or nostril gets irritated if you have hot sauce on your fingers (nor would they be surprised by a burning sensation from hot sauce applied directly to butthole).
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 196d
People who need to eat more fiber in their diet, most likely.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 195d
This is generally true for most people, but no. When you eat really spicy food, especially something that actually has hot pepper seeds in it...it may be spicy on the way out, too.
wabafee@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 195d
Personally no thanks I don't want to start associating food I ate as poop.
jaschen306@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 195d
I already HATE smelling my coffee and asparagus through my pee. I would fucking hate tasting my food a 2nd time.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 196d
With the power of lactose intolerance, you too can regret certain non-spicy foods! Its usually pretty immediate though
Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 196d
do you really wanna take a shit that's hot and sticky and doughy?
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 196d
Knead me, baby
nialv7@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
Because spiciness is literally heat. Capsaicin, the spicy chemical, literally activates the heat receptors in your skin.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 2 pts · 196d
psst, it's a joke
meekah@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 196d
Who would do such a thing? Posting jokes in a shitposting community?
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 195d
Degenerates.
hOrni@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FNrrfvbfba0E17jrUdHGSOlKGd9Sowq6J8MReaJf7YBw.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D76eb4dcb9d59fa4876a77e120585cb0f058021e7