To be fair, at that point we already knew he was a rapist. The new information was the gay stuff. Of course that's going to be the most interesting part to everyone
I'm pretty sure a significant portion would be equally offended by him having the most vanilla consensual sex in missionary position with a black woman.
The "Christians" pretend that if the 2 angels that the gang had intended to rape were FEMALE angels, then THAT wouldn't have been a crime.. it was gender, not raping-angels, that was the crime, rightttt???
This is just wild speculation, but I suspect that Trump and some friends at some point ate a child. I just can't figure out where else this could escalate.
Oh SHIT! This is IT! They have Video of Trump Raping a Child!Murdering a Baby!Anal Raping a Toddler! Having CONSENSUAL Sex with a Man! The ONE thing that Could POSSIBLY Make Republican HATE him!
I raise you Madison Cawthorn and his cousin naked in bed! That seems to have killed his career - or was it the "allegation" there were cocaine-filled parties?
They have evidence of Shitler raping children, stories of him watching a newborn (possibly his from a rape) being tossed like trash into a river, detailed account of his assaulting more girls than I have ever even met in my life, mentioned 38k times in the trump/Epstein files, accounts of him being pissed on by hookers, a document talking about Epstein's death the day before he was murdered...
I mean, the only thing left is footage of him sucking off Bubba.
Eating parts of kids? Raping infants? Getting pegged by young boy? Sasha said in an unconfirmed testimony that he and other children had to anally fuck and penetrate men with dildos and other objects. The men would lay on their back with their legs spread and get pegged.
Is that worse? I mean either way its fucking shocking, and its pretty wild that this is a question that can legitimately be asked about anybody one of the most influential men on the fucking planet.
The groundwork is slowly being laid for a full dictatorship. In the midterms most if it will become obvious to the ones ignoring it, because ice will be suppressing votes with the help of the judges and law makers placed in position to implement their plans. By then it will be too late. The midterms will decide our democracy.
It's not even slow. I have been shocked at how fast they've been moving.
I know I shouldn't have been since they're known to have been plotting all this for years, but the straight out-the-door, unrelenting, unopposed rapidity of it all is something I was not prepared for.
We’re in the mask off era and given how little is getting done even with what we know from the trump-Epstein files, how can anyone claim a video could compromise them?
I’m trying to imagine what kind of tape could result in actual consequences but I just can’t.
I’ve seen child eating speculation, largely because child fucking is the current threshold. Like Trump is fighting for his life to only be called a child fucker. So what is so bad that he’s trying to keep buried? Eating kids was mentioned a few times in the files already, so people have started speculating that Trump was involved in that.
You REALLY aren't going to like the way things are, after the tippingpoint gets crossed, then:
I have been trying to communicate to people that actual-human-sacrifice-cult stuff is going to be open, then, & everybody keeps telling me I'm delusionally-overreacting.
Ghislaine apparently admits to murder in the Epstein files, & .. that's being ignored, so .. if murder is "normal" & not-a-crime for the ruling-class, then .. that tippingpoint is going to change the rules to be much more like Auschwitz, obviously..
NO rules: demon-law outright, if such a thing exists.
propaganda-sensationalism "journalism" with its platforming of gaslighting, & its calling-into-question of integrity, within falsifying-quotes, is every bit as complicit as oligarchy, in this railroading social-transformation.
I didn't know I had it in me to murder, but I did, for my "husband"
the quotes around "husband" were in the original, & Epstein wouldn't marry her, & even cut her out from nearly-everything, in his will: $5-M "shut-up/get-lost" kind of payment, while pouring money into others..
But .. who else would have said that?
& murdering a girl to "prove oneself" ( my quotes to show I mean the concept, not original-quote ) to Epstein..
that's a category of evil I'm not comfy with.
( yeah, mafia probably have their version of the same thing )
Sorry it took me this-long to get around to looking-at my notifications..
That's the worst part. For a decade now we have been traumatized by a sociopathic narcissistic pedo and his puppeteers. And somehow they keep persisting. Imagine putting all your energy and wit into that. It's insanity.
I don’t think that would impact his support with Republicans. I think the only thing that could have him scared is if there really were a video of him blowing a dude (bubba).
Dude, it's one thing to hear about it and another to see it. The hardcore dudes won't care, but his maga women will. Also, the supporters are dwindling.
"Wow, so he raped kids and they videod it. They all do it. Just accept it.
...
Wait, what? The video is of tRUMP taking a black man's huge cock up his arse!?!! THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE! That's disgusting. No, he must've been drugged!!"
From the best little whorehouse in Texas : I have no independent recollection of going to the Chicken Ranch. And I can only say, as the most dedicated anticommunist in the state legislature, that I must have been drugged by communists or communist sympathizers and placed there to harm my reputation and good name.
AI has basically created the perfect alibi machine for liars and frauds. Any bad photographs? Just say it's AI. If there aren't any direct witnesses, it will work every time sadly.
I can only hope the bubble pops soon so that most people can no longer afford to do free AI slop, which will change the discussion pretty radically (since it will increase scrutiny toward AI companies to provide paper trails for any image it generates)
Even if there ARE direct witnesses it won't matter. They won't be believed. How many victim statements are there against Trump re the Epstein thing now?
Former KGB officer Alnur Mussayev, who once headed Kazakhstan’s security services, said both Kazakhstan and the Kremlin are in possession of an incriminating video of U.S. President Donald Trump, among other “compromising material,” Ukraine’s Kyiv Post reports.
🙌 Oh yeah, How absent minded of myself to not include firstly as well .
I am sure there are a plethora of nations that may wanna chime in here.
Oh hell, what am I saying ? Give it to a well deserved non profit w/some type of crypto tag that generates a little coin for said organization every hit.
A lot of inquiring minds want to know.
Without looking I assumed it was Russia and Israel due to Epstein being so buddy buddy with them. Odd that it's Kazakhstan, but I'm also assuming these are the only 2 countries we know of SO FAR.
My opinion: America will split in half. We are two peoples now - one who has willingly become Morlocks, the other a society of at least decent and somewhat intelligent people.
I personally no longer see members of MAGA as fellow Americans. They are the flesh of an enemy nation, who would gladly ravage humanity for their pleasure.
That was also the case in the 1st American Civil War. Ken Burn's documentary went over that, there was a lot of musical chairs as communities and individuals tried to figure things out.
The first year of a second civil war, will mostly be confusion.
your expectations that the next civil war will somehow match up to the previous one is so strange. what in the actual fuck do you think, there's no slave states anymore, who's gonna take control of federal army units and assets?
a century and a half has passed - none of those places are the same as 1860, few of the populations are the same as 1860, and the country spans the continent now and beyond.
For both the War of Independence and the 1st American Civil War, the loyalty of populations were mixed from the outset. For that matter, most civil wars start out like that.
Just because someone is in the federal military, doesn't mean that they necessarily have loyalty to King Trump. A fair chunk of the US's military have loyalties to oaths, their states, and life experiences. They are people. Some will indeed serve a malicious federal government out of apathy or to fulfill evil desires, but many will feel betrayed or believe that their homes are what they served to protect.
Being part of the federal military, doesn't turn people into mindless drones. They and those assets they control, will find their way towards likeminded people.
The chaos of a civil war is not ahistorical, it is simply a part of life when a nation shatters.
I read my history books, listened to history videos and podcasts. I have had plenty of 'anyone else', over the years, just not YOU. Because your position doesn't resemble history nor reality.
I studied military history and military science in university and was in the military, both active duty and national guard.
You're a fantastic example of the gap between 'thinks they know what they're talking about' and 'has actually humped a ruck, shot a ma deuce, moved an armor division, and provided comms for entire operations'.
I wish there was some way to impart this, but am sick of retyping: the next civil war will not resemble the past civil war, it's an entirely new and different equation with completely different variables.
Just the distribution of forces alone. But also the makeup of the military. And the command and control capabilities.
they had telegraphs. that's as fast as information could move. trust me when I tell you times have changed.
or don't. gonna block you now so I don't have to endure any more of your sillyness
What if it was the video of him getting an object shoved up his ass so hard on Epstein Island causing him to wear a diaper and constantly shit his pants.
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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 170 pts · 222d
What video of Trump could possibly be compromising for him? Like what could possibly come out to make
people turn on him if they haven't already?
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 134 pts · 222d
A video of him having sex with a black man his own age.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 222d
Only if he is bottom, though. If he is top then its just demonstrating alpha male dominance /s
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 32 pts · 222d
Why the /s?
prex@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 221d
/sad but true?
Bonifratz@piefed.zip · 64 pts · 222d
The wild thing is, I think it's literally true that the MAGA base would be more fazed by Trump having gay sex than by him raping a girl.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 222d
Yeah, people freaked out more about him blowing Bubba than all the credible rape accusations.
krashmo@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 222d
To be fair, at that point we already knew he was a rapist. The new information was the gay stuff. Of course that's going to be the most interesting part to everyone
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
Because MAGA thinks the point of making money is to buy cocaine, hookers, children.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 222d
I'm pretty sure a significant portion would be equally offended by him having the most vanilla consensual sex in missionary position with a black woman.
azimir@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 222d
It's the old adage about Conservatives: They don't care what you do unless it's a boy or a dead girl.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 222d
Still waiting on that Lindsey Graham news to drop. My money is on dead boy
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 221d
Nah, they would all start giving each other the buttsex they have been craving.
Paragone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
Exactly:
That story about Soddom & Gomorrah..
The "Christians" pretend that if the 2 angels that the gang had intended to rape were FEMALE angels, then THAT wouldn't have been a crime.. it was gender, not raping-angels, that was the crime, rightttt???
Prejudice's astoundingly indellible.
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Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 222d
Maybe it's of him performing an act of charity.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 222d
Gonna take many camera angles to convince me it’s not genAI slop.
Randynippletwist@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 220d
Oh it will be sloppy, sweaty,stained and stink
johncandy1812@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 222d
inimzi@piefed.social · 14 pts · 222d
Good point. None, they don't believe their eyes
pentastarm@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 222d
Three-way of him, Bill and Hillary Clinton?
cmbabul@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 222d
I honestly think it being just Hilary would be the worst thing possible for him among republicans
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 222d
Hillary with a massive strap-on.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 221d
This is just wild speculation, but I suspect that Trump and some friends at some point ate a child. I just can't figure out where else this could escalate.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 222d
Nebraska_Huskers@lemmy.world · 121 pts · 222d
Anonymous if there was ever a time to come back and release that video, it is nowm.
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 70 pts · 222d
This sounds like a job for Gay Furry Hackers
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 222d
Sadly, that video is likely stored offline on removable storage. It is the most powerful asset they have.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 19 pts · 222d
Then they better be paying that sysadmin at least an 8-figure salary.
There are very few technological solutions to the problem of human avarice.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 222d
We should put out a ransom for the video.
GoFundMe anyone?
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
"Russia, if you're listening?"
Nebraska_Huskers@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
To the owner of Trump's pee tape here is your go fund me. Please release when Fund reaches $1billion
psoul@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 222d
Sysadmin of a flash drive in some diplomat’s drawer?! I’ll take your money to be your sysadmin then.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 5 pts · 222d
Have you ever had a non technical boss who didn't want or need IT support?
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 110 pts · 222d
Oh SHIT! This is IT! They have Video of Trump
Raping a Child!Murdering a Baby!Anal Raping a Toddler!Having CONSENSUAL Sex with a Man! The ONE thing that Could POSSIBLY Make Republican HATE him!lemmylommy@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 222d
I doubt it. That too is fine as long as it’s a secret or open secret, but not acknowledged. See Lindsey Graham.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 18 pts · 222d
Not even. Peter Thiel? George Santos?
manxu@piefed.social · 19 pts · 222d
I raise you Madison Cawthorn and his cousin naked in bed! That seems to have killed his career - or was it the "allegation" there were cocaine-filled parties?
11111one11111@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Ill raise you all! How about the original epsteins, aka like 90% of every priest from the cr3ationnof the position to idk like 5 y3ars ago lol
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 4 pts · 222d
Make America Gay Again?
kandoh@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 222d
Chuds don't project themselves onto Graham, but they do for trump.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 222d
Getting spit roasted by Bubba and a black man.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
Maybe its a video of his sex change operation.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 222d
They have evidence of Shitler raping children, stories of him watching a newborn (possibly his from a rape) being tossed like trash into a river, detailed account of his assaulting more girls than I have ever even met in my life, mentioned 38k times in the trump/Epstein files, accounts of him being pissed on by hookers, a document talking about Epstein's death the day before he was murdered...
I mean, the only thing left is footage of him sucking off Bubba.
Drusas@fedia.io · 1 pts · 220d
*lake
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 58 pts · 222d
The trump files are basically tons of documents saying he RAPED KIDS and that fucking country is not even trying to impeach him.
What kind of video do you think could be more compromising than that?
nforminvasion@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 222d
Eating parts of kids? Raping infants? Getting pegged by young boy? Sasha said in an unconfirmed testimony that he and other children had to anally fuck and penetrate men with dildos and other objects. The men would lay on their back with their legs spread and get pegged.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 222d
Is that worse? I mean either way its fucking shocking, and its pretty wild that this is a question that can legitimately be asked about
anybodyone of the most influential men on the fucking planet.markko@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
It's worse in the eyes of conservatives. They want their leader to be a strong man.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
the senate and congress are being let off too easily. they need to feel some heat, every damn day.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 49 pts · 222d
This news story is not for us. It's for him. It's to keep him in line.
Doorbook@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 221d
Trump will have a video raping a child and those who believe in the American dream will chear for him.
The fact he is elected in the first place is a big tell of the reality.
If it's not a revolution this will get worse and next president will start burning people alive.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 221d
The groundwork is slowly being laid for a full dictatorship. In the midterms most if it will become obvious to the ones ignoring it, because ice will be suppressing votes with the help of the judges and law makers placed in position to implement their plans. By then it will be too late. The midterms will decide our democracy.
Drusas@fedia.io · 7 pts · 220d
It's not even slow. I have been shocked at how fast they've been moving.
I know I shouldn't have been since they're known to have been plotting all this for years, but the straight out-the-door, unrelenting, unopposed rapidity of it all is something I was not prepared for.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 222d
Yeah… idk if this all holds anymore.
We’re in the mask off era and given how little is getting done even with what we know from the trump-Epstein files, how can anyone claim a video could compromise them?
I’m trying to imagine what kind of tape could result in actual consequences but I just can’t.
Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com · 20 pts · 222d
I’ve seen child eating speculation, largely because child fucking is the current threshold. Like Trump is fighting for his life to only be called a child fucker. So what is so bad that he’s trying to keep buried? Eating kids was mentioned a few times in the files already, so people have started speculating that Trump was involved in that.
Paragone@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 221d
You REALLY aren't going to like the way things are, after the tippingpoint gets crossed, then:
I have been trying to communicate to people that actual-human-sacrifice-cult stuff is going to be open, then, & everybody keeps telling me I'm delusionally-overreacting.
Ghislaine apparently admits to murder in the Epstein files, & .. that's being ignored, so .. if murder is "normal" & not-a-crime for the ruling-class, then .. that tippingpoint is going to change the rules to be much more like Auschwitz, obviously..
NO rules: demon-law outright, if such a thing exists.
propaganda-sensationalism "journalism" with its platforming of gaslighting, & its calling-into-question of integrity, within falsifying-quotes, is every bit as complicit as oligarchy, in this railroading social-transformation.
Prep, if you can.
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Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 221d
I somehow missed this, can you point me in the right direction?
Paragone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 120d
The exact fragment was something like..
the quotes around "husband" were in the original, & Epstein wouldn't marry her, & even cut her out from nearly-everything, in his will: $5-M "shut-up/get-lost" kind of payment, while pouring money into others..
But .. who else would have said that?
& murdering a girl to "prove oneself" ( my quotes to show I mean the concept, not original-quote ) to Epstein..
that's a category of evil I'm not comfy with.
( yeah, mafia probably have their version of the same thing )
Sorry it took me this-long to get around to looking-at my notifications..
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Sektor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
That's the worst part. For a decade now we have been traumatized by a sociopathic narcissistic pedo and his puppeteers. And somehow they keep persisting. Imagine putting all your energy and wit into that. It's insanity.
DrFistington@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 222d
Yeah, Russia and Israel have tapes of him raping/beating underage girls
assembly@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 222d
I don’t think that would impact his support with Republicans. I think the only thing that could have him scared is if there really were a video of him blowing a dude (bubba).
voidsignal@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 222d
Yeah... you guys really need a deep cleaning of that farce of a country.
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 222d
We know
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
you mean they need to elect a President to "drain the swamp"?
Someone tell him.
Soulg@ani.social · -4 pts · 222d
Wow you're a genius thank you
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 222d
Dude, it's one thing to hear about it and another to see it. The hardcore dudes won't care, but his maga women will. Also, the supporters are dwindling.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 222d
Eh, they're gonna lose their right to vote next year anyway.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 9 pts · 222d
Doubt
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 222d
They will probably just align further with them through shared experiences.
saimen@feddit.org · 5 pts · 222d
They will say its ai generated
edwardbear@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 222d
conspiracy theory - the only reason AI has been given so much attention, resources and leeway is so that excuse can actually work
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 222d
Let's release them and find out.
RalfWausE@feddit.org · 34 pts · 221d
mlg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 220d
Nah they'd say it doesn't matter as the primary reason and start actively supporting it like they already have with the redacted files.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 222d
"Wow, so he raped kids and they videod it. They all do it. Just accept it.
...
Wait, what? The video is of tRUMP taking a black man's huge cock up his arse!?!! THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE! That's disgusting. No, he must've been drugged!!"
JessyKenning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
From the best little whorehouse in Texas : I have no independent recollection of going to the Chicken Ranch. And I can only say, as the most dedicated anticommunist in the state legislature, that I must have been drugged by communists or communist sympathizers and placed there to harm my reputation and good name.
Etterra@discuss.online · 28 pts · 221d
Leak it on the Internet. We deserve the trauma.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 221d
Is-real or is everyone Russia-n to the two obvious countries that worked with Epstein?
officermike@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 222d
Even if it was released, it wouldn't matter. Trump would claim "AI" and no damage would be done to his support base.
MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 222d
Right?
AI has basically created the perfect alibi machine for liars and frauds. Any bad photographs? Just say it's AI. If there aren't any direct witnesses, it will work every time sadly.
I can only hope the bubble pops soon so that most people can no longer afford to do free AI slop, which will change the discussion pretty radically (since it will increase scrutiny toward AI companies to provide paper trails for any image it generates)
Kraiden@piefed.social · 5 pts · 222d
Even if there ARE direct witnesses it won't matter. They won't be believed. How many victim statements are there against Trump re the Epstein thing now?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
Worked with the bags of his shitty diapers thrown out of the white house second floor.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 222d
We know. We noticed.
Unfortunately they'll never release it because if they do they'll lose their leverage
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 222d
Very nice...
tired_n_bored@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 222d
Would be funny if Kazakhstan would step in and release the videos
venusaur@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 222d
Haha I wanna see the Borat x Fred Armisen mashup
Taleya@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 222d
Israel and russia?
Siegfried@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 222d
Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 221d
what an odd combination. I can only assume it was sent over by accident
Paragone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
Did Trump ever happen to be IN Kazakhstan?
It could simply have been them who recorded it..
You're right, though: there seems little incentive to put a copy there, except for redundancy/protection of leverage..
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Drusas@fedia.io · 1 pts · 220d
Article says Russian intelligence was using the hotel's surveillance system.
Tja@programming.dev · 1 pts · 221d
So potassium AND kompromat, huh?
davetortoise@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 222d
Duh
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 222d
Definitely Russia and Israel
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 13 pts · 221d
The one where he's blowing Bubba?
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 221d
Good lawd, one of these two countries should give Greenland a copy.
Drusas@fedia.io · 2 pts · 220d
And Ukraine.
6stringringer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 220d
🙌 Oh yeah, How absent minded of myself to not include firstly as well . I am sure there are a plethora of nations that may wanna chime in here. Oh hell, what am I saying ? Give it to a well deserved non profit w/some type of crypto tag that generates a little coin for said organization every hit. A lot of inquiring minds want to know.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 221d
Could be the fabled pee-pee video.
Drusas@fedia.io · 1 pts · 220d
That was my first thought, but that is way too tame to count as kompromat.
collectif_imaginaire@piefed.social · 12 pts · 222d
This would explain his carpet attitude towards Putin.
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 222d
Trump talking about universal healthcare.
inimzi@piefed.social · 4 pts · 222d
🤣🤣🤣
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 10 pts · 222d
It's Russia and Is... cough cough... Kazakhstan.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 222d
Without looking I assumed it was Russia and Israel due to Epstein being so buddy buddy with them. Odd that it's Kazakhstan, but I'm also assuming these are the only 2 countries we know of SO FAR.
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 222d
Release it then
stenAanden@feddit.dk · 8 pts · 222d
release them!
ameancow@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 222d
regedit@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 222d
Israel and Russia are my guesses.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 220d
My opinion: America will split in half. We are two peoples now - one who has willingly become Morlocks, the other a society of at least decent and somewhat intelligent people.
I personally no longer see members of MAGA as fellow Americans. They are the flesh of an enemy nation, who would gladly ravage humanity for their pleasure.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 220d
At least, hopefully, "members of MAGA" doesn't actually include everyone who was ignorant/misinformed enough to vote for him.
This is, of course, no excuse for the vote.
But you're going to need all the help you can get.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 220d
Oh God I hope the south splits
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 219d
the problem is we can't - there's blue bits in red seas and red bits in blue chunks. it's ideological not geographic.
I don't disagree with the need, I just can't see the how.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 219d
That was also the case in the 1st American Civil War. Ken Burn's documentary went over that, there was a lot of musical chairs as communities and individuals tried to figure things out.
The first year of a second civil war, will mostly be confusion.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 219d
your expectations that the next civil war will somehow match up to the previous one is so strange. what in the actual fuck do you think, there's no slave states anymore, who's gonna take control of federal army units and assets?
a century and a half has passed - none of those places are the same as 1860, few of the populations are the same as 1860, and the country spans the continent now and beyond.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 219d
For both the War of Independence and the 1st American Civil War, the loyalty of populations were mixed from the outset. For that matter, most civil wars start out like that.
Just because someone is in the federal military, doesn't mean that they necessarily have loyalty to King Trump. A fair chunk of the US's military have loyalties to oaths, their states, and life experiences. They are people. Some will indeed serve a malicious federal government out of apathy or to fulfill evil desires, but many will feel betrayed or believe that their homes are what they served to protect.
Being part of the federal military, doesn't turn people into mindless drones. They and those assets they control, will find their way towards likeminded people.
The chaos of a civil war is not ahistorical, it is simply a part of life when a nation shatters.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 219d
cool cool cool, you seem to have it all figured out and aren't going to listen to anyone else anyway so good luck with that
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 219d
I read my history books, listened to history videos and podcasts. I have had plenty of 'anyone else', over the years, just not YOU. Because your position doesn't resemble history nor reality.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 219d
That's cute.
I studied military history and military science in university and was in the military, both active duty and national guard.
You're a fantastic example of the gap between 'thinks they know what they're talking about' and 'has actually humped a ruck, shot a ma deuce, moved an armor division, and provided comms for entire operations'.
I wish there was some way to impart this, but am sick of retyping: the next civil war will not resemble the past civil war, it's an entirely new and different equation with completely different variables.
Just the distribution of forces alone. But also the makeup of the military. And the command and control capabilities.
they had telegraphs. that's as fast as information could move. trust me when I tell you times have changed.
or don't. gonna block you now so I don't have to endure any more of your sillyness
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 220d
Guess we found out if Putin had the tapes
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
With Bubba Ghislines horse? Or Bubba the president? Or both?
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 222d
Oh god, i hope that never leaks.
if someone rickrolled me with that, I would be throwing up for the rest of my life.
demizerone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
What if it was the video of him getting an object shoved up his ass so hard on Epstein Island causing him to wear a diaper and constantly shit his pants.
boaratio@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 222d
Release the pee tape!
kboos1@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d
Fake news!
Trump never had sex with Melina, his reputation would be ruined
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 222d
Prove it, release it.
SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 221d
Uh huh, no thanks. We need to clean house on our own.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 0 pts · 222d
Does anyone not?
NavySqueal@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 222d