The bloat is coming from inside the house!

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Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 158 pts · 187d (13 replies)

Some people want to remove bloat to have a more efficient system

Some people want to remove bloat so they can fill it up again with their own bloat

They are not the same

judgyweevil@feddit.it · 109 pts · 187d (5 replies)

It's not bloat if you want it

mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 187d

Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted time.

OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 187d (2 replies)

One man's bloat is another's treasure

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 187d

One man's waste is another man's soap.
Son's fanbase know the brother-man's dope

Maiq@piefed.social · 1 pts · 187d

Reminds this one of a nord from Whiterun.

cenariodantesco@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 186d

don't love your desktop bloat, bloat your desktop love

FreshLight@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 187d

Whatever bloats your boat.

markz@suppo.fi · 9 pts · 187d (3 replies)

Insert two wolves meme here

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 187d (2 replies)

Im actually going for the Gus fring one

markz@suppo.fi · 5 pts · 187d (1 reply)

Yes but I am both

ray@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 187d

Inside of you are two Gus Frings

They are not the same

thorhop@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 186d (1 reply)

I'm the second part of this statement and I don't like it.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 186d

hey, all that processing power used to layer three layers of differently tinted slightly differently translucent blurred windows with rounded corners are WORTH IT.

EDIT : after all, you need it to run a terminal based browser.

lmr0x61@lemmy.ml · 50 pts · 187d (3 replies)

Ah but you see, this is my bloat! 😂

muelltonne@feddit.org · 17 pts · 187d (2 replies)

Yeah - I like my stuff. It might be a little bit messy, but I like it. But I would hate it with passion if my landlord would place his stuff into my flat.

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 6 pts · 186d

But I would hate it with passion if my landlord would place his stuff into my flat.

Well, that depends... How valuable is his stuff?

lmr0x61@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 187d

And it’s your computer! if anything should be the way you like, it should be that.

Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 187d (2 replies)

I love that many of the pictures in the bottom are from Rainmeter. A software for Windows that allows you to place customised widgets anywhere. So... literally have nothing to do with Linux

Ephera@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 187d (1 reply)

Man, you have a lot of confidence in your ability to tell Rainmeter apart from Conky, Eww or the like, from just a handful of pixels...

Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 187d

Let's just say I've used Rainmeter a lot. And by a lot i mean for about 20 years. Is it possible people have created replica themes on Conky or viseversa on Rainmeter? For sure. I just found it funny that the image included Rainmeter skins. They're the kind of images you'll see as the poster for certain themes. And I've scrolled through more of them than I'd like to admit. And many of them are reposted a lot but use the same poster/thumbnail

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 187d

It's just so fun having an OS that you can make work for you vs being shoehorned into things you never asked for.

ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 23 pts · 187d (2 replies)

The high customisability of Linux desktop is part of the reason why I moved from Windows. Everything looks so clean and modern, and doesn't have any of the Windows bloat. It's so good.

The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 12 pts · 187d (1 reply)

It really is. Every time I think "Hey, it would be cool if my desktop could have [blank]", I look it up and someone has already had that idea and built it.

wltr@discuss.tchncs.de · 0 pts · 187d

And when it’s not, I go with a GPT that helps me make some tiny bash script within one or two simple prompts. It doesn’t cover all edge cases, but it solves the problem that I have, in the simplest possible way, which I enjoy a lot. I collected hundreds of tiny scripts so far. Most of them, I have no reuse for, so I don’t know, I think perhaps there’s some value in having a blog about them.

MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 187d (2 replies)

You may see insanity, I see home.

lmr0x61@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 187d (1 reply)

No place like /home/$USER!

Tanoh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d

What is wrong with $HOME?

Ghostie@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 186d (1 reply)
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orochi02@feddit.org · 5 pts · 186d

Idk, all the power to everyone who wants it but I also like ootb experiences

SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 187d

thats the beauty of it, is it not? having your OS fit SPECIFICALLY you and your needs. i am now so used to my setup that i fell like i will get an aneurysm when trying to use windows... or a DE on Linux

Xorg_Broke_Again@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 187d (1 reply)
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NerdsGonnaNerd@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 187d

Me too. I recently switched from NixOS to Fedora workstation because I didnt have the energy anymore to maintain my config. And all my kubernetes stuff got shoved in proxmox lxcs via the community scripts.

A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl · 13 pts · 187d (11 replies)

Customization is and always will be a key selling point of Linux, that's why I refuse to recommend any district with gnome as DE.

RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 187d

You got to recommend what fits the user. Otherwise you are just telling them what fits you.

null@lemmy.org · 12 pts · 187d (1 reply)

It's all fun and games until you have to actually maintain everything as time goes on. At some point the tradeoff in personal time becomes too great.

sheogorath@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 186d

My ricing days are long gone. Now I just roll with the defaults and adjust the key bindings since my muscle memory has already hardened into diamonds.

The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 10 pts · 187d

...but I actually like GNOME!

There are quite a few customization options for it too.

orochi02@feddit.org · 4 pts · 186d (6 replies)

Gnome is customizable tho. Just not as much as kde:‘ :)

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 4 pts · 186d (2 replies)

Gnome is easily the least customizable DE in the entire Linux ecosystem.

And I'm sure their devs are hard at work coming up with ways to make it even less customizable in the future.

orochi02@feddit.org · -1 pts · 186d (1 reply)

They dont have anything against customization. They just dont see why they should add explicit support when they had a clear purpose/vision in mind regarding the software they Write and are lazy enough to say: yo its Not our issue when your customization breaks our apps because our apps werent intended to be Hacked with in your way

But then again im still fresh and not too Deep into either ecosystems

creation7758@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 186d

https://webb.is-a.dev/do-not-resize/

This is what gnome devs talking about theming sound like

TheRedSpade@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 186d

I keep reading that KDE is super customizable, but nobody ever gives examples. What can be customized other than changing colors and rearranging panels? I'd love to make it my own, but I don't have the first clue what that would mean.

A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl · 1 pts · 186d

Cinnamon best DE

parzival@lemmy.org · 1 pts · 186d

I prefer hype land myself but can live with ideas unlike gnome

Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 187d (4 replies)

Finally KDE will allow us to save our custom desktop layout. I might spend all my weekends customising my setup from now on.

dingleberrylover@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d (3 replies)

How so? I want KDE to remember that certain programs should only open on certain screens

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 7 pts · 186d (1 reply)

How so? I want KDE to remember that certain programs should only open on certain screens

KDE has been able to do this for a long time.

System Settings --> Window Management --> Window Rules

Or, right click on the title bar of the window --> more options --> configure special window settings

From there, you can create a rule that forces a certain program to open its window at a certain location. And you can specify that location to be on the screen you want it to be on. Specifically set a rule for "Position", enter the screen coordinates where you want it to go, and select "Apply Initially".

(If the application isn't behaving under that rule, try adding the "Ignore requested geometry" rule as well.)

dingleberrylover@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 186d

Thank you very much!

Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 186d

They just release a new version. Most distro should offer it soon. Not sure it will do what you ask tho, maybe with Activities?

DaedalousIlios@pawb.social · 11 pts · 187d (1 reply)

Hey, it's not bloat if you want it!

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 187d
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TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 187d (2 replies)

Bloat isn't "software I chose and spent time installing and configuring"

Bassman1805@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 186d (1 reply)

But it can be "software I forgot I installed and consumes resources despite me not really using it"

TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d

True, and that's a bad practice to take part in! If it's something that actively runs and consumes resources, one should keep around only if needed.

illusionist@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 187d

I almost spit out my coffee. Thanks!

violentfart@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 187d (1 reply)

I’m a recent covert for my daily driver.

I actually liked my Windows setup because it was fast and streamlined.

What I didn’t care for was cutting out bloat every major update and the surprises like “we just copied all of your private keys and documents into our cloud and hid them”

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 2 pts · 186d

“we just copied all of your private keys and documents into our cloud and hid them”

And then deleted the originals on your computer so that your only copy is in our cloud.

Oops! Your cloud storage is full! Now pay us $25/mo or you will not be able to access your cloud storage.

mlg@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 186d

I found a thread on reddit where some doofus was claiming the classic cube layout from Compiz is completly useless and nothing more than eye candy after someone was having trouble with setting up the cube on Wayfire.

It is objectively the best way to handle multiple workspaces.

Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 187d

Its almost like I CHOSE to have this shit bog down my pc

Hond@piefed.social · 7 pts · 187d (4 replies)

I slightly customized my KDE taskbar by centering it with panel spacers because that was the only thing i liked about Win11. Set it to auto-hide for OLED reasons. I dont remember if the slightly floaty style was standard with my distro or i did it?

Then like two tweaks to dolphin to make it look more like the 'detailed' view in windows explorer which is the only legit way to view files. Everybody else with these giant folders is fucking crazy. Probably the only thing where i'm not open minded.

Uh, yeah thats it. Havent changed anything else in almost two years on two different distros.

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 2 pts · 186d (2 replies)

Everybody else with these giant folders is fucking crazy.

Hey, man. Sometimes I'm dealing with images a lot, and it helps to have image thumbnails big enough to see clearly.

(And even the mini-thumbnails inside a folder's thumbnail are visible enough to be helpful, giving me a quick sense of what's in that folder.)

turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 185d (1 reply)

Yeah, thumbnails plus the details panel on the side is way more useful information for me than the list view. If I just wanted a list I wouldn't be using a graphical file manager in the first place

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 1 pts · 185d

Eh, list has its place, and I'll still use it sometimes.

List shows you more files on one screen, and it can show details of the files like filesize and last modified date without having to click on each file to get that.

BurgerBaron@piefed.social · 2 pts · 187d

Then like two tweaks to dolphin to make it look more like the ‘detailed’ view in windows explorer which is the only legit way to view files. Everybody else with these giant folders is fucking crazy. Probably the only thing where i’m not open minded.

I'm among the few who general use / game on linux in the living room on a TV sitting on the couch at a distance, and I still rather use detailed view lmao. Hard agree.

ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 185d

Oh no

Look out

It's CHOICE

rozodru@piefed.world · 6 pts · 187d (1 reply)

I like retro computing so I have one computer that has Niri themed like Windows 98, also have Plasma on it themed the same way. then I have another that has Sway themed like the Apple II.

taiyang@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 187d

Oh I love those themes, I also sometimes use the 98 one on Plasma and it makes people do a double take.

Tja@programming.dev · 6 pts · 186d

Idk, default KDE is almost okay for me. I spend maybe 2 minutes changing a few task bar options and virtual desktops.

I used to go crazy with conky and icons and colors and a bunch of crap. Now I got work to do, leave my w95 looking desktop alone.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 187d

It's like forcefemming your pc :3

JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 187d

I've been using Linux since Red Hat Halloween. I don't think I've ever customized a GUI much beyond its standard settings. My CLI though...

AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 187d

Its fun. With the power of nixos i always have a safe fallback in case i brake something and need my laptop.

UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 186d (1 reply)

I feel forced to use slightly customized breeze at this point, because every other theme I would like is either straight up buggy or does not support all of the features Plasma has now...

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 186d

How do you customize it yourself? Every time I try to find info online I just find "use themes," but I'm not looking for whole themes, I want to kinda sorta slowly theme it myself like "oh I want this to be that color" and stuff, I just don't know what .conf files or whatever I need to edit.

speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 186d

Your title alone deserves multiple upvotes. The meme is just the icing.

DmMacniel@feddit.org · 4 pts · 187d

It's inside the fracking house!

ekZepp@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 186d

More like OS Interior Design.

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 4 pts · 187d

That's okay. I don't customize anything to balance it out.

Shanmugha@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 187d

Like all things, it will pass. Still the possibility to go that far is a blessing

callyral@pawb.social · 3 pts · 187d

I just have Niri with Waybar and a consistent color scheme

zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 186d

Not me writing my quickshell panel for over a week straight (so far) 👀

cnk@sharkey.world · 2 pts · 187d

It doesn't matter if it takes 12 minutes to boot, I spent 12 mf hours making custom icons that match my theme

Zenie@piaille.fr · 1 pts · 186d

@The_Picard_Maneuver
It doesn't have to be bloated. Desktops tend to be bloated. Its part of the interface design.