Don't let a handful of half wits convince you your comment isn't dumb and pointless. Regardless of your worthless contribution here, my point is living 500 miles away from something isn't all that close. At least 500.
I see the Midwest as more of a cultural region than a physical one. Ohio and Indiana honestly both perfectly fit in with the Midwestern culture, so I welcome them into the "Midwestern" moniker
Personally, I see the Midwest as a triangle with Ohio, Minnesota, and Missouri as the corners. Kentucky and Arkansas are too southern culturally (and honestly, the southern half of Missouri is too) Oklahoma is almost southwestern culturally, and Kansas, the Dakotas and Nebraska are very western culturally (and honestly Western Minnesota and Western Iowa are pretty Western culturally too)
i don't think you can be appalachian and midwestern, too. i think an argument can be made that the midwest is the mississippi and great lakes watersheds without mountains north of the missouri compromise line
I agree, and I meant west of the Appalachians, not necessarily including them. This of course does make ohio weird as regardless the vast majority of it is past the mountains but a tiny bit brushes into the foothills.
Nah, more of a "crabs in a bucket" situation. Nobody wants to be here. A not-insubstantial amount of the population was either dumped out the gate of the nearest military base upon retirement or is otherwise descended from those that were.
DROP THE GUN! DROP THE GUN! GET DOWN ON THE GROUND! :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: DROP THE GUN!!! DON'T MOVE!
True, although I intended there to be no pause between the directives and the start of the shooting, so I think we're basically in agreement, or close to it. heh
As an Ohio resident that had 2 people pull a gun on me and someone firing off in an alley I was working in just last year alone, I'd say it's getting close.
Imagine having fully operating concentration camps where people from all over the country is arbitrarily "detained" and put in, and just going about your day like usual.
The one thing that this overlay is making me realise is that there are actually some parallels here. The North and Midwest kind of seem the same type of people, same with the UK being the northwest, Iberia basically being California/Nevada and Italy being a spaghetti western country with far right tendencies.
Italy is more like california I think. Spain is a lot poorer. Greece is like lousiana maybe, spain could be like the texas gulf coast maybe. Central Europe is not unlike the upper midwest in the industrial heartland. Western Europe like the northeast corridor in the US.
Imagine being from the US while your government is run by pedophiles who are turning the country into an authoritarian dictatorship. But meanwhile all you do is complain there's nothing you can do about it, how you're a victim (even though you voted for it or were stupid enough not to vote) while you defended the second amendment after yet another school shooting because you might need it in case of a tyrannical government. Keep in mind, the people who voted for the other option still voted for right wing, as there's no left wing representation in that country, because apparently the left is such a tiny part of the population they don't have any political representation.
All dystopian fiction writers would say this story wouldn't sell so wouldn't be worth writing about, because it would be too far fetched. Americans: "hold my beer..."
is this an accurate representation of the US landmass ? I was under the impression they were much biger than that..., but they're roughly the size of Europe ?
The two "maps" are wildly out of proportions anyway. Looks like Sweden is the size of the entire US West Coast. When in reality it's about the size of California
Given how the US border is distorted (Maine is north of the 49th parallel) I'm guessing this is one of those maps that distorts things as you move them around to keep the area constant. Like look how big Greenland looks up in the corner.
One of the most common criticisms of the Mercator map is that it exaggerates the size of countries nearer the poles, while downplaying the size of those near the equator
For example, let's move Russia towards the equator
Mercator does compensate for that by introducing reference rectangles. But of course, that doesn't help when people making posts using those maps, are unaware of how to read them. And also just remove said reference rectangles
New England is, roughly speaking, all the metacarpal states up there between New York and Maine, where the yankees you outlanders keep blaming the rest of us for being actually come from.
If you drive from the east coast to the midwest and back, as I have, you'll get a sense of how weirdly huge the United States is. There comes a point where your primitive monkey brain is confused that people still speak the same language.
Does it matter when the "U" in US is no longer true anyways? Btw. Europeans are not as uneducated about "that country" as "that country" citizens are about Europe. Maybe it is just slop.
We don't have to imagine it. Across the border, right now the cartels are attacking the cities and setting them on fire. It's not on the level of Russia attacking Ukraine, but still, a little unsettling.
You still need to eat, drink, have shelter while there's a war or a fascist take over. The point of modern society though is to make that band of ability to do that so narrow you cannot afford to take a day off. Because fuck being part of the masses I guess.
Yes. The previous poster's map appears to be from Google's satellite images. They don't photograph the sea, so the water that is photographed around land looks darker than the sea.
I was saying that a bit like the Greenland (which isn't USAian) could be Alaska (which is USAian), both top left, Canary islands (not USAian) would be like Hawaii (USAian), both bottom left.
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cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 114 pts · 184d
And Florida is killing people they don't like
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 94 pts · 184d
We don’t have to imagine that one.
village604@adultswim.fan · 24 pts · 184d
That's just an average day in Florida
jimmy90@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
quite and i think ohio is where a small civil war will happen when the trump regime is collapsing
Ledivin@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 184d
...Ohio is part of the midwest.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 184d
I think this is the point
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · -38 pts · 184d
Then it's poorly made
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 184d
The point is to demonstrate that Germany, Austria, Poland are not very far away from Ukraine. It compares the situation as described.
Imagine living in Minnesota, living life as you are used to, while there is a war in Ohio
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -5 pts · 183d
Nobody know where those places are. Miami to NYC is a better comparison.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d
I had to look it up too but it doesn't take long to find out
sukhmel@programming.dev · 0 pts · 183d
Oh, but isn't everyone from the US? And even if you're not, at least have decency to learn the relevant¹ geography in school
::: spoiler ¹ …relevant being the US, of course. But learning in school in the US seems to be largely unavailable
/s :::
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · -6 pts · 183d
Like I said, poorly made.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · -9 pts · 183d
Again, Ohio is part of the Midwest, so there's no comparison being made. So it's a poorly made point.
hector@lemmy.today · -20 pts · 184d
Idk, the US is huge, Ohio to Minnesota is a very long distance.
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 184d
Do you get lost trying to find your way out of rooms with a single door?
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 183d
Wow, so you resort to insults? Yea we're done you, you win by being the first to resort to name calling.
Why should anyone engage with your sophostry?
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 183d
Man, you were so close to a coherent thought. Maybe a little less time looking up "sophostry" , and a little more time proofreading?
hector@lemmy.today · -24 pts · 184d
Don't let a handful of half wits convince you your comment isn't dumb and pointless. Regardless of your worthless contribution here, my point is living 500 miles away from something isn't all that close. At least 500.
myrrh@ttrpg.network · 8 pts · 183d
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 184d
And an ICBM can cover a distance of 500 miles in about 1.8 minutes, assuming a very rough average speed of 15,000 mph.
500 miles is nothing in a war zone.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 184d
Well, your point’s been made. Conversation over, everyone.
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 184d
Lol someone's a little touchy today
IronBird@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 184d
eh, true midwest isnt till indiana. ohio is closer to west virginia/kenfucky
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 184d
Ohio is officially counted as the eastern most Midwestern state. It has been for at least a century.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 183d
I see the Midwest as more of a cultural region than a physical one. Ohio and Indiana honestly both perfectly fit in with the Midwestern culture, so I welcome them into the "Midwestern" moniker
Personally, I see the Midwest as a triangle with Ohio, Minnesota, and Missouri as the corners. Kentucky and Arkansas are too southern culturally (and honestly, the southern half of Missouri is too) Oklahoma is almost southwestern culturally, and Kansas, the Dakotas and Nebraska are very western culturally (and honestly Western Minnesota and Western Iowa are pretty Western culturally too)
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
Yeah the transappalachian great lakes region and the great plains. The real question is is west Pennsylvania midwestern
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 183d
i don't think you can be appalachian and midwestern, too. i think an argument can be made that the midwest is the mississippi and great lakes watersheds without mountains north of the missouri compromise line
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
I agree, and I meant west of the Appalachians, not necessarily including them. This of course does make ohio weird as regardless the vast majority of it is past the mountains but a tiny bit brushes into the foothills.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 53 pts · 184d
Isn't just living in Ohio the same as being in an active warzone?
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 184d
Nah, more of a "crabs in a bucket" situation. Nobody wants to be here. A not-insubstantial amount of the population was either dumped out the gate of the nearest military base upon retirement or is otherwise descended from those that were.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 183d
Hey now there are also Scots-Irish infesting the Appalachian segments, got some distant kin there.
bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 184d
Shots fired
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 5 pts · 184d
Get down
daychilde@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d
DROP THE GUN! DROP THE GUN! GET DOWN ON THE GROUND! :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: :BLAM: DROP THE GUN!!! DON'T MOVE!
…oh, sorry, I thought we were imitating US cops…
Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 183d
If we were, the directives would have occurred after all of the shooting.
daychilde@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
True, although I intended there to be no pause between the directives and the start of the shooting, so I think we're basically in agreement, or close to it. heh
Alenalda@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 184d
As an Ohio resident that had 2 people pull a gun on me and someone firing off in an alley I was working in just last year alone, I'd say it's getting close.
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com · 31 pts · 184d
Imagine the people running your country are literally fucking and eating kids.
village604@adultswim.fan · 0 pts · 184d
You could have added "fucking" after literally to make a double entendre.
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 184d
Stupid autocorrect.
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 184d
What?
chunes@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 183d
"Ohio isn't in the midwest."
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 183d
Imagine having fully operating concentration camps where people from all over the country is arbitrarily "detained" and put in, and just going about your day like usual.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 184d
Maps without the UP?
criticon@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 184d
The UP is there, the map includes the borders at the great lakes
epicshepich@programming.dev · 6 pts · 184d
They botched the LP too
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 183d
It looks more like they just left Lake Michigan as part of the main landmass
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 15 pts · 183d
There is an active war in Ohio.
Hawke@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 184d
I am disturbed by the lack of Great Lakes.
bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 183d
Oh look at that DC is in Russia. Fitting analogy.
SUDO@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 183d
Russia can just have Ohio.
Ohio isn't even a real state.
Ever meet anyone from Ohio?
Of course you haven't.
Oh, you have? That was a CIA agent.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 183d
Yes it is, do you know how many zoomers spent the last 5 years in a state of constant Ohio?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 183d
it's pronounced Ahegao btw
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 183d
I thought that was Wyoming?
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 183d
No, Wyoming is spare Colorado, if Colorado falls off we can replace it with Wyoming.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
So when am I getting my back pay from the CIA?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 183d
The Midwest ends somewhere around poland/the northern Baltics in that map, I was under the impression that those areas have been freaked out.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 183d
I'm in SW Romania. I can drive to Ukraine in a day.
And yea, just kinda... living my life. Not much else I can do.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d
It's kinda cozy there. It's like a tidy swamp.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 0 pts · 183d
If Ohio was being invaded by Canada, 20 million dudes with rifles would come running from all over the country just hoping to bag a Canadian.
Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 183d
walking
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 4 pts · 183d
These roads aren't walkable. They'll definitely be driving.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 182d
Not from southern New England they won't.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 183d
We did that already, but with Minnesota.
Vinny_93@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 184d
The one thing that this overlay is making me realise is that there are actually some parallels here. The North and Midwest kind of seem the same type of people, same with the UK being the northwest, Iberia basically being California/Nevada and Italy being a spaghetti western country with far right tendencies.
hector@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 184d
Italy is more like california I think. Spain is a lot poorer. Greece is like lousiana maybe, spain could be like the texas gulf coast maybe. Central Europe is not unlike the upper midwest in the industrial heartland. Western Europe like the northeast corridor in the US.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
California's economy ranks somewhere between the UK and Germany.
Texas would be somewhere between France and Italy.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 184d
Ohwhereo?
grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 184d
Ohhowihateohiostate
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 182d
Imagine being from the US while your government is run by pedophiles who are turning the country into an authoritarian dictatorship. But meanwhile all you do is complain there's nothing you can do about it, how you're a victim (even though you voted for it or were stupid enough not to vote) while you defended the second amendment after yet another school shooting because you might need it in case of a tyrannical government. Keep in mind, the people who voted for the other option still voted for right wing, as there's no left wing representation in that country, because apparently the left is such a tiny part of the population they don't have any political representation.
All dystopian fiction writers would say this story wouldn't sell so wouldn't be worth writing about, because it would be too far fetched. Americans: "hold my beer..."
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 184d
is this an accurate representation of the US landmass ? I was under the impression they were much biger than that..., but they're roughly the size of Europe ?
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 184d
mrmule@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 184d
Yes it is https://thetruesize.com/
callyral@pawb.social · 9 pts · 184d
It looks just slightly bigger than in the OP's screenshot
mrmule@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 183d
If you move it the coast of Ireland (like the original) I'd say it's pretty much the same
wavebeam@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 183d
daychilde@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 183d
The two "maps" are wildly out of proportions anyway. Looks like Sweden is the size of the entire US West Coast. When in reality it's about the size of California
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 183d
Given how the US border is distorted (Maine is north of the 49th parallel) I'm guessing this is one of those maps that distorts things as you move them around to keep the area constant. Like look how big Greenland looks up in the corner.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 183d
Greenland is not in the image
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 183d
Then what is the unlabeled landmass at the very top left, northeast of Iceland?
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 183d
The landmass in the very top left on the image in this post. Is Iceland.
Greenland is not northeast of Iceland either. It's northwest.
mrmule@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 183d
One of the most common criticisms of the Mercator map is that it exaggerates the size of countries nearer the poles, while downplaying the size of those near the equator
For example, let's move Russia towards the equator
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 183d
Mercator does compensate for that by introducing reference rectangles. But of course, that doesn't help when people making posts using those maps, are unaware of how to read them. And also just remove said reference rectangles
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 183d
Alaska and Hawaii aren't pictured.
daychilde@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
Because they'd be in Morocco!^[As any good US elementary school map of the US would show!]
freeman@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 183d
The USA is slightly smaller than Europe (not the EU) if you include Alaska and Hawaii
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 7 pts · 184d
Something makes me think that the US should be flipped horizontally here. So that Florida is over Spain.
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 5 pts · 184d
And New England would be sort of over Old England.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 183d
I was going to say that but my US geography isn't that good or any good really :-)
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 183d
New England is, roughly speaking, all the metacarpal states up there between New York and Maine, where the yankees you outlanders keep blaming the rest of us for being actually come from.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 183d
That's pretty much what I thought, but wasn't going gamble my imaginary internet points on it.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 183d
If you drive from the east coast to the midwest and back, as I have, you'll get a sense of how weirdly huge the United States is. There comes a point where your primitive monkey brain is confused that people still speak the same language.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 184d
this outline of the US looks like it was drawn by a European. it's wrong in many places.
SARGE@startrek.website · 4 pts · 184d
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 184d
Does it matter when the "U" in US is no longer true anyways? Btw. Europeans are not as uneducated about "that country" as "that country" citizens are about Europe. Maybe it is just slop.
lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 183d
We don't have to imagine it. Across the border, right now the cartels are attacking the cities and setting them on fire. It's not on the level of Russia attacking Ukraine, but still, a little unsettling.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 184d
You still need to eat, drink, have shelter while there's a war or a fascist take over. The point of modern society though is to make that band of ability to do that so narrow you cannot afford to take a day off. Because fuck being part of the masses I guess.
Kellenved@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 183d
Prior to 1945, this kind of thing happened every 30 years somewhere in Europe. It’s kind of the usual
grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 5 pts · 184d
the Great Lakes not so great again??
razzazzika@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 183d
Thats how I feel about Minnesota while living in PA...
CptEnder@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 183d
I mean Ohio already looks like a warzone anyway
dryfter@ani.social · 2 pts · 183d
I was on 70 to Columbus over the weekend. The Ohio side was SIGNIFICANTLY nicer [pavement wise] than the Indiana side.
Small compairison/Your mileage may vary I guess. 😂
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 183d
And off the coast of Florida (a genocide & very soon another war).
But at least Alaska/Greenland is uncertain for some reason.
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 183d
fuck this part of Finland ig
bstix@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 183d
Åland? What about it?
I've only ever met one person from there. I forgot her name but she gave me a hug.
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 183d
it's missing from the map- or the map is too low res to make it out
bstix@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 183d
Well, it's also over-represented on your map. The area is a beautiful archipelago, but it's mostly water.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
If you zoom in you'll see only light green depicts islands, deep green is the water near them that is not proper sea but archipelago.
Åland is closer to Sweden but it's still Finnish.
You can see it better on this one
bstix@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 182d
Yes. The previous poster's map appears to be from Google's satellite images. They don't photograph the sea, so the water that is photographed around land looks darker than the sea.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 183d
Eaten by the entropy of repeated image compression probably
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 184d
Average EUrudite can't find Alaska on this map.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 183d
Who took them land of greens??
Hawaii/Canary islands also not pictured.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d
Canary Islands aren't USAian, so that makes sense.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 183d
I was saying that a bit like the Greenland (which isn't USAian) could be Alaska (which is USAian), both top left, Canary islands (not USAian) would be like Hawaii (USAian), both bottom left.
RockBottom@feddit.org · 3 pts · 183d
The greenhorns back east have no idea what is going on, out here on the western frontier.
Godric@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
Here you goofed up by saying Ohio, now I am automatically on the other side. Canada, please take that forsaken land.
nexguy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
Does this mean Italy and Greece are the Texas of Europe?
thlibos@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 183d
Just Italy. Greece is Louisiana. Athens is the New Orleans of Europe.
AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 183d
Okay so end the war?
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 183d
Now, consider how different the culture is between Ireland and Syria.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
I wouldn't care about nazis in Ohio either
freeman@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 183d
Which has happened countless times in the past. Europe is not a country.