cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/44699253
This is clearly a sign that the product failed to draw in enough customers and its viability was overhyped.
Hopefully, it is the start of the AI bubble bursting.
https://variety.com/2026/digital/news/openai-shutting-down-sora-video-disney-1236698277/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/44699253
This is clearly a sign that the product failed to draw in enough customers and its viability was overhyped.
Hopefully, it is the start of the AI bubble bursting.
119 Comments
NekoKoneko@lemmy.world · 267 pts · 145d
That is the strongest indication this is the beginning of the end for the AI bubble. Sora burned a ton of processing power, with no clear value proposition, just to keep the hype cycle going a little longer. Shutting down without explanation leaves the most likely one: they are out of helium to pump into the balloon. And if that balloon isn't inflating, it's deflating.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 145d
Maybe you can only watch so many nonsense videos. I assume I’m sadly wrong though.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 145d
It was a weak attempt to keep relevance when faced against Gemini and Claude. But it's completely unnecessary now that OpenAI has contracted with the government. They get all that sweet tax payer money and get to repurpose a ton of GPUs making stupid videos to supporting that new gov contract.
kromem@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 145d
It's not and probably the opposite.
When Sora launched it was way ahead. Seedance 2's release was notably better than any of the other video gen models, Sora included.
The market is getting commoditized because there's no moat and OpenAI hasn't led on pretty much any release for a while now other than Sora, which they're probably falling behind on now.
This is the opposite of a burst from a tech standpoint, even if OpenAI as a company starts to pop.
TL;DR: This is likely happening because the tech accelerated across the industry in ways OpenAI can't catch back up to, not because it's lagging.
NekoKoneko@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 145d
Upvoted for a different perspective, but I suspect it ends in the same place.
OpenAI is kept solvent by investor capital, and capital is kept flowing by the perception of OpenAI being the market leader. Seedance being a better model, enough to cause OpenAI to exit the market, still ruptures the perception of value. In a market with no clear profitability path, that's ground falling away.
It also can't be simply commoditized because generations (I'm sure even Seedance) are expensive and still not good enough for production use, even if 50% of their consumer base might boycott if a major studio even did use it in production. Commoditization can't occur when there's still no economically self-sustaining, market-acceptable "good enough" product. Without that, even if the leader changes, it's a race between lemmings (sorry) off the cliff.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 145d
Isn’t spending billions of dollars with nothing to show for it in the end the definition of a popping bubble?
yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 145d
No, it's called the basic business model for tech companies since years. Sadly.
A bubble popping would be when people start asking for their ROI or sell.
makyo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
Yep - they briefly led in video gen but quickly were overtaken by other groups. There are even open source local models that perform really well now.
They could conceivably catch back up but how does that help them when their priority is chasing the AGI/ASI dragon?
klay1@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
i agree that AI is a bubble of trash but shutting off a part that wasn't worth the cost is not an indication of an end. They just reduced cost to extend the financial runway. From my point of view text and coding were more popular anyway.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 145d
The end of the AI bubble has been beginning for years. The end of the beginning of the end of the bubble might take a few more years.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
escalator up, elevator down
mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 140 pts · 145d
Chime in if you disagreee, but there's really only 2 reasons a company like OpenAI shuts down a core service like Sora:
We already know that OpenAI is losing money on their generative "AI" products across the board, to the tune of billions of dollars per year, and the economic woes that come from rising hardware prices, oil and gas shortages, and another pointless war in the middle east only make the situation worse for them money-wise.
And so that really just leaves me to conclude that Sora has not maintained the level of popularity and growth needed to impress investors as Q1 comes to a close. Whether it's users, subscriptions, or time, they must have looked at the numbers and really didn't like what they saw.
Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of the ridiculous "AI" bubble, and the start of a new tech sector correction.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 55 pts · 145d
There's a third option this time.
It uses a lot of resources they can use immediately for the military contract that will now inevitably form the backbone of the company and effectively will mean they have won the AI war. Anthropic fumbled by not doing what the military wanted immediately, and showing a minimal backbone publicly.
WindyRebel@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 145d
I listened to a Vox’s Today Explained that tackled this whole contract. What was said on there was that Anthropic had in some very minor stipulations about AI and war, but were rejected. OpenAI came in with their offer and then after getting it, the contract they signed had the wording that Anthropic was asking for.
It basically came down to, Altman was the favorite of the Trump administration and got the contract because of behind the scenes bullshit and because Dario was/is super critical of Trump when it comes to AI safety.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 145d
In addition, marketing AI with image generation is a lot easier of a way to impress the public than the more technical applications, or the frightening prospect of the "security" applications, but image generation is only a good use of resources as advertisment, and the introductory phase is over.
deliriousdreams@fedia.io · 8 pts · 145d
I think this might ignore something else video image generation is good for which is propaganda.
Fake or highly edited video of strikes in Iran, random video circulating online proporting that the Netanyahu hand videos, and random videos of Israeli strikes on Palestine (which I assume are to discredit actual video of the atrocities happening there), have been going viral for awhile now.
Advertising is probably one of the few industries that can use image generation and video generation via AI LLM in a way that would actually cut costs but the downside is people are increasingly militantly against ads and they are against AI generated content including ads, so this isn't likely to become the reality any time soon.
If the McDonald's ad and others like it had been better vetted for AI uncanny valley aspects and hallucinations that cause trucks to transform into short bus versions of themselves mid ad spot etc, the public might not have paid attention at all.
And lots of those same advertising firms are using AI to their benefit behind the scenes to purchase ad space. But using AI in ads in a public facing way is a dream out of reach for them for now because they bungled it so bad.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 144d
You're right. I should have specified "publicly accessable" image generation.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 144d
useful for propaganda videos thats what trump and other conservatives want to "trick people" that it is true whats being shown.
Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 145d
Finger crossed, my friend! Fingers crossed.
Goferking0@ttrpg.network · 10 pts · 145d
Or 3 massive liability/ lawsuit /investigation about to be announced.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 145d
The market for professional video is fairly small, and most of the cost is in sales. ie. the advertising agency, or movie/show pitch that demands the producers get rich independent of production costs.
worhui@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
. Ai companies want to replace all YouTube , and TikTok,creators with ai video content farms, capturing the creator market and if it scales the streaming market. Instead of getting a cut gen ai would let platforms eat the whole pie alone.
A significant number of smaller creators I watch have drastically increased the quality of animations and b roll by using ai tools.
These tool are a big deal to a big market.
kromem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
I suspect it's that they got eclipsed by ByteDance with Seedance 2.0.
The video for that model is really good and makes Sora look pretty meh, and it may have been that current work on a next gen Sora wasn't going to be competitive enough.
The worst thing a lab can do right now is look like they are falling behind (i.e. Meta), especially with OpenAI planning for an IPO.
So on top of the lackluster "social media" offering tied to Sora they decided to shutter the entire product line of video and pivot to enterprise (where they've already lost significant market share to Anthropic).
They're in a pretty meh place at the moment overall tbh. I'm skeptical they'll recover.
(But I wouldn't mistake their fumbling for an industry wide shift on AI in general or even video AI.)
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 145d
I think they intend to IPO this year and need to slow the hemorrhaging funds quickly to be more appealing to the stock market.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io · 1 pts · 144d
I guess. But shrinking the scope of their products doesnt exactly inspire the idea of infinite growth.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 144d
i heard sora uses around several MW of electricity just for a short 5-20second videos. extremely high cost.
AmblerTube@lemmy.world · 124 pts · 145d
As someone who named their daughter Sora in 2021, this is the best news I've gotten this year.
Czombolero@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 145d
Congrats! 🥳🥳🥳
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 83 pts · 145d
Why stop there? Just shut the whole company down.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 145d
Best I can do is shutting the whole planet down.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 145d
Eh, we had a good run.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 145d
.......did we?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 145d
Eh, we had a run.
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 145d
Bet
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 0 pts · 145d
Oh it's part of the military machine now. It's never going away now. OpenAI won the war, Anthropic fumbled the ball by not openly capitulating to the fascist state. The competition just hasn't realized it yet.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 69 pts · 145d
Oooooohhhh is it starting? I hope it’s starting 🤩
HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 145d
POP! POP ALREADY!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!
dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 145d
Just a long deflation coming.
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 51 pts · 145d
Best news I've heard all day! POP THE SLOP
Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 145d
GOOD. Bubble grew a bigger hole letting the air out. Disney removed their $1B investment so let's hope more do too in the near future to keep ripping that hole wider, yes.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 32 pts · 145d
But muh slop
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc · 31 pts · 145d
you mean giving away billions of dollars of computer with no monetisation strategy was bad? man who would have thought. not sam, apparently. if only there were like, some way to have realised that the goal of business is to earn money
fubarx@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 145d
In the dotcom era, the push was to create lots of free services. Once you had enough users, you wanted to see how many would be willing to pay for it. There was a formula that justified getting more investment (it varied by domain). Back then, almost nobody other than Amazon survived the hard shaking of the tree.
We may be coming up to the point where customer acquisition through free service ends. Whatsever is left standing will move to the next round.
Everybody else gets dropped on the floor.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 145d
Let me get this straight: Disney was supposed to give Openai license for their characters, and on top of that invest billion dollars in the Openai? The money literally went the wrong way
IratePirate@feddit.org · 14 pts · 145d
Not really. Disney management has drunken the same Koolaid as any other management right now: they believe they can fire large parts of their staff and replace them with "AI", allowing them to achieve similar or even greater productivity at a fraction of the cost (i.e. whatever fee "open"AI charges). To achieve that, they need to give Sora access to their characters (so it can be trained to produce Disney movies) and invest in the company (as a down payment; money that would be recuperated by eliminating workers from the equation).
redsand@infosec.pub · 24 pts · 145d
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 23 pts · 145d
All people ever did with sora was make doorbell cam footage of dogs watergunning old ladies and gorillas getting sucked into tornados. AI image and video generation is just a tool to make a funny joke, it's incapable of doing anything serious in its current state, and with the amount of processing power it needs just to be a digital circus clown it's unlikely to become anything more.
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 145d
There’s also 100 YouTube channels of “real life Pokémon”. What will we ever do without those???
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 145d
AI image generation is amazing for replacing stock photos, and not bad at replacing clipart and porn images.
AI video generation is ok at replacing very simple videos without continuity or physics, but their only real applications are for spreading misinformation or mindless scrolling, there's just no real way to get anyone to pay for them.
That's aside from the fact that sora could've been great for generating generic stock footage/b-roll, but the way they implemented it was to generate a script, then audio, then video, which meant that it really struggled to generate anything without a focal point, ie what it would actually be useful for.
Bongles@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 145d
There's a ton of that going around with sora, but for all I know it could be a smalll group of people. According to their pricing page, 140 bucks a month normally (50% off right now lol) will get you almost 5000 videos a year. Seems plenty to spread a bunch of shit.
Abyssian@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 145d
So many people seem to have no idea what they're talking about. This isn't ending AI video creation, it just cost them a lot of money to offer it. You can generate a video on your own computer already. AI video isn't going away because one company isn't letting people do it on their servers for free any more.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 145d
Didn't realise you could do it locally, just checked online and there's several options. So why are these fuckers building huge, resource-greedy data centres. . ?
CXORA@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 144d
Because they want to do a lot of it and faster than a home pc could so they can offer it as a service.
kcuf@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 144d
What you can do locally is slower and with much smaller models.
Abyssian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Real answer: Because they want to own the world.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 144d
So they can charge you to do it on your phone...
db2@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 145d
So youtube will be worth watching again right?
Right?
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 145d
It still is for the creators there. Instead of browsing the algorithm I start on the subscriptions page, to only see uploads from people I actually want to.
There's sometimes complaints about "I thought you were dead" when the channel has been uploading regularly the entire time. People just never got recommended the videos despite hitting all the buttons.
For example, did you know both Physics Girl and Tom Scott have returned this month - hopefully a sign that the world can still heal.
::: spoiler Some unsolicited add-on recommendations -
Ublock origin - beyond the addblocking, I use the picker tool to filter all the extra sections like "news", "trending" "you might like" etc.
Unhook - toggles to disable a bunch of features like comments, home screen, end screen etc.
Enhancer for Youtube - Themeing and a bunch of extra settings like setting defaults for each video. speed, volume, resolution, fill screen (which is different than full screen), PIP while you scroll comments. (The author just did a rework, so it can be a little bugged sometimes - reinstalling it fixed it for me last time it went wonky. :::
JayGray91@piefed.social · 2 pts · 145d
Edit 2: I checked the contact page for the dev and went through an archive site to check, and yep, I did recall correctly. it is the same extension. glad that the dev is back maintaining the firefox extension again! best youtube debullshittificator extension IMO
Edit: I've checked the version history for the firefox extension and now I'm doubting myself. am I crazy? (yes, I am) was it another extension I'm thinking of?
Wait, hold on. Enhancer for Youtube is back on Firefox? Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC the dev didn't update the extension for firefox for a long time due to some policies mozilla have with extensions, and IIRC it has been stuck at 2.5 something whereas the chromium version gotten the 3.0.
I've had to make do with another youtube extension since it keep bugging out.
this is great news!
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
I'm pretty certain, but could be remembering wrong, they paused development when YouTube/Google was going nuts breaking adblock, which broke the extension. The dev eventually removed their adblock and made everything else work.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
Every once in a while, if you have the “notifications” on for a creator it’ll just randomly turn it off. I have a creator that I pay $1/mth subscription to, which you would think YouTube would take as a suggestion that I like that channel and show me when they upload something new. Nope! Instead the algorithm thinks I want to watch a fucking Neo Nazi musician.
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 145d
Since Tom Scott is coming back soon, that's a clear yes.
fastfomo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 144d
Finally, a good news
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 144d
It's so they can repurpose that capacity for developing robots. It's not good at all.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 144d
Robots aren't like software, it's immediately obvious when they don't work the way they're advertised whereas chatbots can trick people into thinking they're way more useful than they actually are. The "fake it till you make it" "move fast and break things" ethos of tech doesn't work when there's actual, physical evidence that shit's busted.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 144d
Unpopular Opinion Incoming
I was assigned at work to evaluate a few LLMs for potential adoption, so I spent a solid week doing so.
Most of the "AI is broken and doesn't work" on here is solid echo chamber cope. It's more competent than several of my coworkers, though it's thankfully not ready to replace knowledge workers as it requires a knowledge baseline to best direct it and evaluate its answers.
I still advised against using it for multiple reasons, including ethics, but much of Lemmy is playing make believe about the actual capabilities of LLMs.
Erdalion@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 144d
Mind telling us what it is that you do? I heard similar things being said in the Plain English podcast last week (and the host was pretty anti-AI before) and I'm starting to wonder if certain jobs are going to be more affected than others.
Or are your coworkers just bad at what they do? :P When I was working tech support, there were people that were worse at their jobs than the bots of the time, let alone LLMs, I swear.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
Electrical engineering. My mentioned coworkers are competent but more junior in the field. We did a miniature internal study and found the best models provided accurate, relevant information on the first prompt about 90% of the time when asked to explain or verify concepts. The remainder consisted of hallucinations or misunderstood queries.
They struggled with questions that instead required complex problem, providing some mixture of appropriate solutions, overly complex but still functional solutions, and hallucinated shite.
I recommended that we do not move forward with adopting AI in any capacity. While it has some utility for basic information retrieval and fact checking, it still required someone with sufficient knowledge to be able to quickly evaluate the quality of its output. Helpful for someone who knows what they're doing, dangerous 10% if the time for someone who does not. I also highlighted the ethical concerns, many of which my peers were unaware.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 144d
Cool anecdote. Every time we actually see real data, though, the numbers don't reflect much in the way of productivity gains or increased efficiency or better output. People say that LLMs are useful because it feels useful, but we aren't seeing actual usefulness. The most recent study out of Duke University observes "a productivity paradox, in which perceived productivity gains are larger than measured productivity gains, likely reflecting a delay in revenue realizations."
A delay. Sure.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
I really appreciate your dismissive, arrogant tone. Your casual dismissing of my anecdote really added to how you provided even less substance to support your point.
But hey, it got you those "supporting the echo chamber by dunking on dissent" up votes, and that's what we're all here for, right?
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 143d
I directly quoted a study from Duke University, how is that "even less substance" that your anecdote?
schema@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
Correct, thought there is still good news in a way: OpenAI is running out of money rapidly. So much so, that they have to pick and choose one thing over the other.
They would have done the robot thing anyways, but the fact that they had to shut something else down for it sbows that the massive deficit is starting to affect them pretty heavily.
Maybe im just coping, but imo, the cracks are getting bigger and bigger.
deathbird@mander.xyz · 15 pts · 145d
Don't worry, I'm sure we'll have other tools for quickly and cheaply creating falsified videos and the like. Faith in the veracity of video evidence probably won't be coming back.
Technus@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 145d
I'd bet money that the Disney deal falling through was because OpenAI couldn't guarantee that Sora couldn't be used to generate porn of their characters, since attackers will almost certainly always find new prompt injections.
Surprise surprise, it's a giant fucking black box that you can never have complete control over.
unphazed@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
But my Ariel on Vaporean porn is a dream yet to become a reality... (I'm getting old, that is the Pokemon with the weird fetish, right?)
Technus@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 145d
There are thousands of starving furry artists out there who would be happy to take your commission.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 144d
All roads lead to porn eventually when it comes to videos. youtube had to shut down alot of porn/bizarre videos targetting children a few years ago.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 145d
my guess is that ai video is not going away, and that sora was largely an expensive marketing project
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 144d
I think one of the reasons why consumer facing AI content is failing so bad is because we have had good video content for decades so it’s super obvious when a video is just off.
I think this relates to the main reason why AI is failing (or at least not popular with consumers). It automatically just means the product has less quality than you’ve been used to for your entire life. It hasn’t really provided anything new to consumers.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 145d
Bye Felicia
sirico@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 145d
Openai is the canary
meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 10 pts · 144d
Could this mean less wholly AI generated videos on YouTube? Please be so.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 144d
fantasyocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 144d
Doesn't that require a subscription though? It may not eliminate the slot videos, but that subscription is going to be a pretty substantial barrier to entry
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
Those pathetic AI youtube commercials where there is some fake over muscled geriatric talking about some miracle cure are the worst.
I just close them out. I'm hoping somewhere in youtubes algorithm of suck they are paying attention to how much those ads are hated.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 145d
It was used almost exclusively for slop and slop-based ads or videos that shouldn't be slop. I was on there yesterday and some account had 2 videos of a woman in front of a plain wall talking for 15 seconds about tax implications for investments. A real human could have filed it with an iphone in 3 minutes.
But now that's Google and Grok's problems, I guess.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
If the audio and video is AI-generated I'm going to assume that the script is, too.
piranhaconda@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 145d
I've had to do training at work that I'm fairly certain was mostly AI generated. The pics and audio seemed to be. And even the questions that I had to get right in order to complete the training... Some of them just weren't covered in the training. Come on
johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 144d
I had a safety thing about a year ago and at the end it asked a question the the effect of " there's broken glass on the shop floor, what should you do" . I picked the option to use a broom and dust pan but apparently the correct tool for glass clean up is a pair of tongs...
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
Oh no, it was very specific and hard to cram all the words in to the time. Typical Sora is that it's either screaming or long pauses.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 144d
those 15seconds used alot of power, like megawatts.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 144d
I absolutely can't wait for more of this shit to start collapsing financially.
Zoldyck@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
Good
spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 144d
Sweet now do the whole company
ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 144d
Good.
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Oh no.....stop....don't go..../s
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Maybe time to move retirement accounts into cash.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 5 pts · 145d
Cash will lose value just exactly as the money in your account.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 145d
Move it to precious metals or assets that historically average flatter value through crashes. The dollar is highly volatile in economic crisis.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 145d
I'd do this but its probably the wrong move. I tend to go with the steam method: do nothing while everyone else scrambles, profit.
Griffus@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 145d
Or invest in non-US to keep them safe. Like Norwegian funds while the orange is oranging to gain on the oil price boom, and then spread out to European and emerging markets when he has his first public stroke in a few months.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 144d
I'd be shocked if any other country let's Americans use their banks and markets but I mean I guess its possible I know there's forex and stuff like that.
I've always heard no one wants Americans to open bank accounts if they aren't living there
Griffus@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 144d
You have to be able to invest in stocks or funds outside US from a US trader? Even though I've sold most of my US assets, I still own some US stocks through my Scandinavian bank.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 144d
Meh, I'm poor and have no assets at all. Guess I just die.
floppybiscuits@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
Waiting for Ed zitron to repost this with this image attached 😂
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 145d
Sora 2 was massive lost leader for OpenAI, and a massive basis for its compute demand. Images and video use expensive compute time, and its ambition level was high before Seadance 2, and small open models. With its falling behind in coding/office LLMs as well, only Skynet/Government can pay for its roadmap.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 144d
Wao, that didn't last too long, did it? 🤣
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 144d
RIP Sgt General Jessica Foster. Semper fudge.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
Middle school interships?
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 145d
🪡
darkmogool@feddit.org · 1 pts · 144d
insert nelsonhaha.jpg
Betchisan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
Most useless pile of jackshit to be ever created.
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
Not sora its gone
CodeBlooded@programming.dev · -12 pts · 145d
I hate to hear this! I really enjoyed Sora. My friends and I made so many memes of each other on there. It was great for illustrating inside jokes.
Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 145d
But are you willing to pay $5 to $10 a roll when you're making a video joke?
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 145d
See, @CodeBlooded@programming.dev 's goofing off with free version is what destroyed the AI bubble. Of course, he wasn't going to convert to paid service.
Sims@lemmy.ml · -27 pts · 145d
I think it was build on the original transformer architecture and as such took a shitload of compute and was slooow, so I guess they picked the wrong architecture and had to scrub the whole strategy. Huge loss.. That also point to US not having enough cheap compute (compute->combined mem and processing) - likely from missing electricity. Lovely.. Die Saltman, die, and Go go China !
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 145d
Bops the tankie.
Like, I have a Chinese LLM loaded right this second and follow them closely, but holy moly. Curb your enthusiasm.
Anyway, OpenAI has plenty of compute to train a Sora 2 if they want, but apparently they don't. My guess is some combination of:
They couldn't figure out a more efficient architecture, like you speculated. I buy that. OpenAI's development is way more conservative than you'd think, and video generation is inherently intense, especially if Sora 1 is the baseline.
...Maybe they looked at metrics, saw Sora is mostly used for spam, scams, or worse, and pulled the plug for liability reasons?
They're focusing on short-term profitability, as other commenters mentioned.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 145d
Quick nitpicky fix. The only way they don’t lose shit tons of money is if they shut down completely.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
Yeah; 100%.