I saw that immediately, that's so illegal. You should record it and report it to the appropriate 3-letter agency (no idea which one).
Doubt you'll get the money back, but making the assholes that run that machine deal with the government would be worth it to me.
still waiting on any company, agency, government to give a shit about the grocery stores selling eg 200g of meat but only giving 165g. not the prepackaged ceap, actual cuts of meat. numbers are examples but it happens way too much where the actual is always less then the advertised weight.
In the US, your state's department of weights and measures might care. They're the ones who verify grocery store scales, taxi cab fare meters, gas pumps... they exist to make sure you're not getting ripped off. If you're in a blue state they care, in a red state ymmv.
I live in Texas and the State Dept of Agriculture takes this kind of stuff very seriously. You have to report it though, which might be the other commenter's issue
Large bottles are sold as “2 liter soda”…that’s it.
I'm from Finland. It never stops being weird when Americans talk about 2 liter sodas. First, it being in liters, and second, 2 liter sodas are huuuuge. (Large bottles are usually 1.5 liters here.)
Then again, I never saw a 6 pack of large bottles of coke until I came to Norway, where every grocery store seems to sell 6 packs of the 1.5 liter bottles, so Europeans are not exactly without their own Coca Cola habits to support.
Yeah, they are huge bottles sold individually...great for pouring a reasonable amount for many people.
Not as great for 1 person drinking it, unless you drink way too much, it will go flat before you can finish it.
Never seen a 1.5l bottle before searching it now, that looks like something some one could easily carry with them to have soda all day long!
2 liters is pretty common for foreign stuff in Estonia. Aka stuff made by coca cola mostly. Price per liter is a bit better than 1.5 liters so it makes more sense for get-togethers.
Locally made stuff usually doesn't get past 1.5 liter bottles except for kali (kvass). And juice too, but that's in tetrapak not bottles.
Recently shrinkflation hit juices. What used to be 1/2 gal, is now 1.5 L (at least in my grocery). It’s easier to just stop buying it: too much sugar anyway
I used to buy soda in 2L bottles as the best price, so it was sufficient for a family or a single person several days to a week. The reality is if it’s there I’ll drink it: the sugar rush is addicting. I think a lot of people still do this.
Now I buy soda in a can, despite the much higher price and packaging, because I’m more successful at moderating myself to a can a day (and it’s usually sugar free so the calories are no longer the problem)
I'd be more surprised if the government didn't fine they guy reporting or require a lawyer to go through layers of bureaucratic nonsense designed to make it so hard to do anything the average person won't bother.
He's looking for the number to call on the sign that indicates the vending machines are ran by a third party company, then he can talk to a customer service representative after spending over an hour trying to get through the AI support, after providing all his personal information, a video of the incident, and a drop of his blood he'll get a check mailed to him in 6-16 weeks, maybe.
I looked into it, most places will sell "big" pints which are either 40cl or 50cl (though many craft breweries sell 44cl cans). I couldn't find an exact reason for the 40cl pints, but apparently they became common in the 90's due to recession and price increases and such. Beer in restaurants, bars and pubs is quite expensive here in general
It's gotten increasingly difficult to tell with Maggie lately, but in this case I'm 99.9% certain that they're satirizing stereotypical Americans rather than expressing a sincere opinion.
TB vs TiB: Computers don't count drive space in metric units, they count it in powers of 2. This means that, for you, 1 TB is 1000 GB, while for a computer, 1 TiB is 1024 GiB. Drive manufactirers take advantage of this, and only count space in metric (TB). So when you plug the drive into your computer, and it converts to GiB, you end up with 1 TB = 931.3 GiB. Windows hasn't helped this confusion, I remember it doing something weird like counting in GiB and displaying it as GB.
Reserved space: Many OSes reserve some space on their drives for special stuff. This is especially the case with Linux and ext4, where it by default reserves a percentage of the drive to root. This is to optimize distribution of files around the disk, which limits fragmentation. The system slowly frees more of this space as you fill up the disk, and at the end it should leave you with 100% of the space.
Formatting: Empty drive space isn't the same as usable drive space. In order to use a drive you need to format it, which doesn't just blank it. Formatting a drive adds a filesystem to it, which is what allows you to write files and folders to it. This filesystem takes up some space, and reserves more space for inodes and, in some cases, a filesystem journal. Some filesystems have even more features that also take up some space.
GiB weren't invented by drive manufacturers (although they definitely benefit from it, and are incredibly scummy about it). It was invented by the SI people. GiB make sense, because the prefix "Giga" means 10⁶, while in binary it meant 2²⁰. It was a mess before, and GiB just standardized it in a way that is easy to understand and consistent with other units.
I do think we should force drive manufacturers to express their drive capacity in binary format, tho.
This has nothing to do with metric. There was just a tradition to use the SI prefixes in binary and with k/K it worked. With MB it doesn’t work that well anymore, which is why they came up with MiB at some point, but MB can still be interpreted binary like it always was. Software can often display both binary and decimal prefixes. There are also different standards how to handle these units for different kinds of storage.
All software has always interpreted it in binary as far as I know. There never was a good standard, and the most common way to differentiate in my experience was using KB as metric (decimal, SI) and K as binary. It's easy to confuse with the already convoluted standard of KB being a kilobyte and Kb being a kilobit.
The reason for the added "i" is that in every other system, kilo means 1000. Someone at the SI realized that it didn't make any sense to have it mean something different in software so they invented the Ki prefix (instead of K) to mean 1024. That is now the standard, and it's part of the SI (coloquially metric). As a consequence of this, you can technically use the Ki prefix with any other SI unit, so you can also use the KiM (kibimeter), which is 1024 meters. Idk why you'd use it, but it's funny that the option exists.
Kilo has to be lower case, so it should be kB for decimal kilobyte. All SI prefixes are case sensitive. Kilo, hecto and deca are weird outliers since they are all written lower case, otherwise SI uses uppercase for prefixes larger than factor one and lower case for those smaller. I know people often don’t pay that much attention to that for bytes since there is nothing smaller than a bit.
There is a huge difference between 5mm and 5Mm. 5Mm = 5000000000mm
Don't know if you're joking or not, but to anyone actually curious "fluid ounce" its the volume of 1 ounce of water (or wine, not all fluid ounces are the same since because not all ounces are the same).
Yeah - it’s “fluid ounces” but due to a much memed question that someone once posted the internet sometimes refers to them as “Florida ounces” purely for the lulz.
The six-packs of bottles sold in grocery stores have been 500mL for years. Probably somebody filled the machine with them. (The label should say, "Not Labelled for Individual Sale" near the barcode, if so.)
Precisely. Everyone is bitching about shrinkflation, and it's probably just a vending machine owner cheaping out and buying multipacks at the grocery store instead of 20oz at a much higher wholesale price.
I don't know if you're just not from the US, but this dual labeling of groceries has been ongoing for decades. The US formally began transitioning to metric during the 1970s and has had plenty of dual uses ever since; it got cut short due to a mix of public apathy and active public disapproval, and when it was on its last legs, Reagan axed the metrification board early in his first term (not a defense, but it was seriously barely doing anything by that time because of public unwillingness to change). Rulers have inches and centimeters; there are imperial and metric tools; kids do learn metric in schools (usually in the context of a science class); etc. You aren't expected to know metric as an average functioning adult, but it's everywhere and useful to know in US society – usually just kind of in the background like here.
TL;DR: "Is adopting" said in 2026 in response to soda labels is a steep misunderstanding of metrification in the US.
Not other liquids.... just Soda. Milk you buy a gallon of. Soda? 2 Liters. Saying you're gonna buy a gallon of Soda sounds very strange to an American. There's also 1 Liter bottles.
Weird. Chugging cola from gallon jugs sounds like the most American thing one could think of, strange it's not a thing yet. Also never understood why Americans buy milk in jugs. Isn't this like the one thing you actually want to be in the smallest container possible? Do people drink that much milk, or are they commonly tossed unfinished when it inevitably spoils?
The imperial pint (≈ 568 mL) is used in Ireland, the United Kingdom, and other Commonwealth countries. In the United States, two kinds of pint are used: a liquid pint (≈ 473 mL) and a less common dry pint (≈ 551 mL).
It's easier to make a bottle to sell in most countries rather than make a difference bottle for a single market. Especially when that market has lax consumer rights laws.
They’ll try to rationalize that part, but they still have to pay attention to regional preferences.
I don’t even know if the sizes are all the same here in EU. In Germany the most common bottle sizes are 250ml (1l/4), 330ml (1l/3), 500ml (1l/2), 750ml (3l/4) and 1l afaik. 200ml (1l/5), 375ml (3l/8) and 2l also seem to be a thing.
33cl is the standard for beer and 75cl for vine.
My measuring cap for my cola syrup has markings for 250ml, 500ml and 1l. As well as 615ml and 840ml because of Soda Stream bottle sizes.
Same here historically. US beer cans and bottles used to be 12 oz and I still occasionally see them. I even have one in my fridge.
But most new beers (as in new brands, new styles, actual good beer) are sold in pint cans, which in theory should match a bar draft (but don’t always and there are no regulations to protect consumers)
I never go into the “swill” aisle of my package store so my perspective may be biased
They did this to one of my favorite brands of ramen recently. The squares are noticeably smaller before you even open the package. I picked it up off the store shelf and something I've held in my hands dozens of times before felt noticeably lighter and tinier. Three would probably make one decent serving lol
They're not even from here. They're made in poland I think. The shrinkflation is inescapable...
I don't know what it is you're trying to show. Is it that this drink is 500ml while all the others are 20 in whatever medieval unit is in use? I'm confused because the bepis says it's 16.9 floz, but if I type that into a converter it's not 500ml, and the other drinks are in oz, not in floz. I don't know if they're different. Is that the problem? One's by weight and one by volume? 500ml is standard for a large can in 90% of the world, fwiw.
Dude bought a Diet Pepsi that was advertised as 20 oz but the bottle that came out only had 16.9 oz. (Or at least that’s what’s implied by the picture, who knows if that bottle actually came out of the machine…)
Yeah. I stand by it. If you are supporting the corporations destroying our world, your either evil or you haven’t evolved an intelligence high enough to perceive that our corporate overlords are predators.
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Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world · 195 pts · 143d
Did no one notice I bought 20 oz not 16.9 oz bottle I got ripped off
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 116 pts · 143d
I saw that immediately, that's so illegal. You should record it and report it to the appropriate 3-letter agency (no idea which one). Doubt you'll get the money back, but making the assholes that run that machine deal with the government would be worth it to me.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 143d
still waiting on any company, agency, government to give a shit about the grocery stores selling eg 200g of meat but only giving 165g. not the prepackaged ceap, actual cuts of meat. numbers are examples but it happens way too much where the actual is always less then the advertised weight.
buy a scale, weight meat. get enraged
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 143d
In the US, your state's department of weights and measures might care. They're the ones who verify grocery store scales, taxi cab fare meters, gas pumps... they exist to make sure you're not getting ripped off. If you're in a blue state they care, in a red state ymmv.
protist@retrofed.com · 10 pts · 142d
I live in Texas and the State Dept of Agriculture takes this kind of stuff very seriously. You have to report it though, which might be the other commenter's issue
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 143d
Probably ESA as it's 500ml in metrics and all.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 143d
Soda bottles in the us shows both ounces and milititers.
Large bottles are sold as "2 liter soda"...that's it.
Smaller bottles are in ounces (with the metric label just a requirement I guess - no one I know here talks about buying a 500ml soda)
Everything else is ounces or gallons, I'm sure someone will 'umm actually' me...but generally nothing else is metric; like milk and juice.
dalekcaan@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 142d
America: fuck metric, unless you're talking soda or bullets
dzsimbo@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 142d
...science and drugs
protist@retrofed.com · 6 pts · 142d
I know it's a funny joke, but we actually use metric quite a bit, especially for volume
umbraroze@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 142d
I'm from Finland. It never stops being weird when Americans talk about 2 liter sodas. First, it being in liters, and second, 2 liter sodas are huuuuge. (Large bottles are usually 1.5 liters here.)
hraegsvelmir@ani.social · 2 pts · 142d
Then again, I never saw a 6 pack of large bottles of coke until I came to Norway, where every grocery store seems to sell 6 packs of the 1.5 liter bottles, so Europeans are not exactly without their own Coca Cola habits to support.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Yeah, they are huge bottles sold individually...great for pouring a reasonable amount for many people.
Not as great for 1 person drinking it, unless you drink way too much, it will go flat before you can finish it. Never seen a 1.5l bottle before searching it now, that looks like something some one could easily carry with them to have soda all day long!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 142d
2 liters is pretty common for foreign stuff in Estonia. Aka stuff made by coca cola mostly. Price per liter is a bit better than 1.5 liters so it makes more sense for get-togethers.
Locally made stuff usually doesn't get past 1.5 liter bottles except for kali (kvass). And juice too, but that's in tetrapak not bottles.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Recently shrinkflation hit juices. What used to be 1/2 gal, is now 1.5 L (at least in my grocery). It’s easier to just stop buying it: too much sugar anyway
I used to buy soda in 2L bottles as the best price, so it was sufficient for a family or a single person several days to a week. The reality is if it’s there I’ll drink it: the sugar rush is addicting. I think a lot of people still do this.
Now I buy soda in a can, despite the much higher price and packaging, because I’m more successful at moderating myself to a can a day (and it’s usually sugar free so the calories are no longer the problem)
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 142d
Bro thinks CIA gonna be bustin' down Pepsis door
The three letter agencies are the spooks the MIB's the guy's who disappeared Epstein.
You are looking for something more boring like the Health department or department of agriculture.
myrrh@ttrpg.network · 2 pts · 141d
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
So the DOA? :D
I'd be more surprised if the government didn't fine they guy reporting or require a lawyer to go through layers of bureaucratic nonsense designed to make it so hard to do anything the average person won't bother.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
USDA
United States Department of Agriculture.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
That's what mom calls them when they're in trouble.
MML@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 142d
He's looking for the number to call on the sign that indicates the vending machines are ran by a third party company, then he can talk to a customer service representative after spending over an hour trying to get through the AI support, after providing all his personal information, a video of the incident, and a drop of his blood he'll get a check mailed to him in 6-16 weeks, maybe.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 49 pts · 143d
Naw mate, I just noticed you clicked on that shit when you could have been enjoying a Dr. Pepper. Wtf?
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 143d
noticed the same with 1.25L bottles replacing 1.5L and 1.7L replacing 2L
Thorry@feddit.org · 67 pts · 143d
Yeah but the machine is in ounces, where the can is in Florida ounces. Once you convert it's perfectly fine.
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 143d
This bullshit is shrinkflation.
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 142d
I thought the same, but they still make the 20 Oz bottles. Looks like the vending machine company is either cheating people or forgot to update the placards - https://www.target.com/p/pepsi-cola-soda-20-fl-oz-bottle/-/A-12979694
pewpew@feddit.it · 3 pts · 142d
It has always been like this in my country. We have multiples of 330ml or 500ml
EDIT: I just noticed now and yeah this is false advertising
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
Damn, that is why I can't get my hand into the pringles tube. It is smaller in diameter.
Shrinkflation happened to this guy, also.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 36 pts · 142d
TIL that an American pint (500ml) is smaller than a British pint (568ml).
khannie@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 142d
The American pint is actually only 473ml! That's a half litre bottle.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 142d
Then there's some dodgy measurements going on the side of that can.
Also explains when I've been in America and asked for a pint of beer I've been given a child's size glass compared to what I'm used to
khannie@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 142d
Well it says 1.05 pints in the pic though 500ml would be 473 x 1.056 so technically correct but yes definitely on second part.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 142d
Ah right, I'm not good at maths so thank you.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
47 cl vs. 57 cl, really ?
In Europe, the pint is at an even 50 cl.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 142d
An imperial pint is 568ml.
Do they use pints in Europe?
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 142d
Speaking for NL:
25cl20cl is a "Small Flute" locally (fluitje)50cl25cl is a "Small Vase" (vaasje)If you ask for "A small pilsner" (pilsje) you'd normally get the 25cl or sometimes the 33cl glass of the beer on tap.
ManInTheBox@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 142d
I think vaasje is actually 25, maybe 30cl? (certainly not half a liter). fluit is even smaller; 20 perhaps?
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
You are correct, my bad! Thanks for pointing it out :)
khannie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
Ireland and the UK use the imperial pint in pubs (568ml). Everything else in Ireland at least is metric for liquids.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
There are various regional names for 50cl, but "pint" is common, since it's quite close.
In France, for beer, it would be a "baron", while 1l would be a "formidable".
I suppose each place has such names.
666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
Though in Finland 44cl is very common as well
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
That's an interesting one, where does it come from?
666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
I looked into it, most places will sell "big" pints which are either 40cl or 50cl (though many craft breweries sell 44cl cans). I couldn't find an exact reason for the 40cl pints, but apparently they became common in the 90's due to recession and price increases and such. Beer in restaurants, bars and pubs is quite expensive here in general
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 142d
476 mL, or 16 oz
Godric@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 142d
TIL Brits have bigger pints, not just small baby sized shots! Does it balance out?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 142d
Yeah it comes up in Canada where restaurants will say "Pint*" to short change us.
ragepaw@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 141d
Except you can report that and they'll get punished
https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/measurement-canada/en/file-complaint
Pints of draft beer Consider the following:
A pint contains 20 fluid ounces (568 millilitres) in Canada.
What you need before you start
In order to process your complaint, we will require:
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 141d
That's why they put as asterisk on it. Then somewhere they say it's not a real pint.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 30 pts · 143d
"WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MY FUCKING CALORIES?!"
solidheron@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 143d
oh I get it they didn't change out the stickers on the button. the vendor still probably an a hole
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 142d
Hole in the head?
solidheron@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
Lol a-hole* too lazy to use a hyphen
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 143d
Ran out of bottles using freedom units, had to use rest-of-the-world units instead. Thanks, Trump.
marcos@lemmy.world · -24 pts · 143d
Soda is sold in 600ml bottles all over the world.
Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de · 24 pts · 143d
Not where i live.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 14 pts · 143d
American suddenly realizing that not the entire world is america.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -15 pts · 143d
America might not be the entire world but it’s everywhere that matters in the world.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 143d
Wait wait, I first read this as satire but something's not right. You're not being serious are you?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 143d
It's gotten increasingly difficult to tell with Maggie lately, but in this case I'm 99.9% certain that they're satirizing stereotypical Americans rather than expressing a sincere opinion.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 9 pts · 143d
I’m always serious.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
Username checks out
leftascenter@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 142d
Adequate username
Asetru@feddit.org · 10 pts · 143d
Not here.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 143d
Maybe US territories all over the world.
Coca-Cola recently issued a 750ml bottle in Japan, where it had always been either 500ml or 1.5l.
ThoGot@feddit.org · 5 pts · 143d
hwat
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 143d
Never heard of that.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 142d
No, that's literally one size I've never seen.
mlg@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 142d
Its like when you buy a 1tb drive and the real capacity shows up as like 920Gb lol
black0ut@pawb.social · 25 pts · 142d
There are (mainly) 3 reasons for that:
TB vs TiB: Computers don't count drive space in metric units, they count it in powers of 2. This means that, for you, 1 TB is 1000 GB, while for a computer, 1 TiB is 1024 GiB. Drive manufactirers take advantage of this, and only count space in metric (TB). So when you plug the drive into your computer, and it converts to GiB, you end up with 1 TB = 931.3 GiB. Windows hasn't helped this confusion, I remember it doing something weird like counting in GiB and displaying it as GB.
Reserved space: Many OSes reserve some space on their drives for special stuff. This is especially the case with Linux and ext4, where it by default reserves a percentage of the drive to root. This is to optimize distribution of files around the disk, which limits fragmentation. The system slowly frees more of this space as you fill up the disk, and at the end it should leave you with 100% of the space.
Formatting: Empty drive space isn't the same as usable drive space. In order to use a drive you need to format it, which doesn't just blank it. Formatting a drive adds a filesystem to it, which is what allows you to write files and folders to it. This filesystem takes up some space, and reserves more space for inodes and, in some cases, a filesystem journal. Some filesystems have even more features that also take up some space.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 142d
GB to measure binary gigabytes came first. GiB was invented because advertisers and drive manufacturers are evil.
Edit: and judges are technologically illiterate.
black0ut@pawb.social · 3 pts · 141d
GiB weren't invented by drive manufacturers (although they definitely benefit from it, and are incredibly scummy about it). It was invented by the SI people. GiB make sense, because the prefix "Giga" means 10⁶, while in binary it meant 2²⁰. It was a mess before, and GiB just standardized it in a way that is easy to understand and consistent with other units.
I do think we should force drive manufacturers to express their drive capacity in binary format, tho.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Right, in response to drive manufacturers using GB incorrectly.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 142d
This has nothing to do with metric. There was just a tradition to use the SI prefixes in binary and with k/K it worked. With MB it doesn’t work that well anymore, which is why they came up with MiB at some point, but MB can still be interpreted binary like it always was. Software can often display both binary and decimal prefixes. There are also different standards how to handle these units for different kinds of storage.
1kB is clearly 1000B and 1KB is clearly 1024B
black0ut@pawb.social · 4 pts · 142d
All software has always interpreted it in binary as far as I know. There never was a good standard, and the most common way to differentiate in my experience was using KB as metric (decimal, SI) and K as binary. It's easy to confuse with the already convoluted standard of KB being a kilobyte and Kb being a kilobit.
The reason for the added "i" is that in every other system, kilo means 1000. Someone at the SI realized that it didn't make any sense to have it mean something different in software so they invented the Ki prefix (instead of K) to mean 1024. That is now the standard, and it's part of the SI (coloquially metric). As a consequence of this, you can technically use the Ki prefix with any other SI unit, so you can also use the KiM (kibimeter), which is 1024 meters. Idk why you'd use it, but it's funny that the option exists.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 141d
Kilo has to be lower case, so it should be kB for decimal kilobyte. All SI prefixes are case sensitive. Kilo, hecto and deca are weird outliers since they are all written lower case, otherwise SI uses uppercase for prefixes larger than factor one and lower case for those smaller. I know people often don’t pay that much attention to that for bytes since there is nothing smaller than a bit.
There is a huge difference between 5mm and 5Mm. 5Mm = 5000000000mm
With other prefixes it gets even more extreme:
gegil@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 142d
Its because american terabyte is smaller than metric terabyte.
BenM2023@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 143d
68ml short of a Pint in my book. Dunno where they got the idea that 500ml is 1.05 pints
Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 143d
A pint in the united states is 16 fluid ounces (473.18 ml)
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 143d
If only there was an unambiguous unit to measure fluids...
expatriado@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 143d
olympic swimming pools for sure, football fields is for area, and elegants for weight
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 143d
Elegant elephants
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 143d
You mean the Oregonian gluten free bakery?
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 142d
I move with the elegance of an African elephant
BenM2023@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
What a small volume... Should have stuck to English measures when you escaped back along 🤣
leftascenter@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 142d
It's because of beer. British beer tastes better so you can have a bit more.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 143d
It's not called "Imperial Measurement System" because it's communist, that's for sure.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 143d
The silver lining is that people (Americans?) will be consuming less soda.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 143d
Nah, instead of 20oz it'll be 33.8oz.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
But more expensive, and I'm incredibly fine with that!
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 143d
Yeah, what's FL OZ? A parrot walked on the keyboard?
Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 143d
Its 0.87 of a British pint
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev · 5 pts · 142d
Don't know if you're joking or not, but to anyone actually curious "fluid ounce" its the volume of 1 ounce of water (or wine, not all fluid ounces are the same since because not all ounces are the same).
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 142d
It's a florida ounce. Takes its roots in the cocaine industry of Miami in the 1980s.
A florida ounce is approximately equal to about 25g of mass (on earth), or 25mL of volume.
This is different from the imperial or US ounce, which is about equal to 28g or 29mL.
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 142d
Yeah - it’s “fluid ounces” but due to a much memed question that someone once posted the internet sometimes refers to them as “Florida ounces” purely for the lulz.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 142d
I was into my 20s before I realized they're NOT Florida ounces. But then I grew up and still live with the metric system.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 2 pts · 141d
There's also "fluoral ounces" to add to the confusion lol
Teppa@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 142d
How could this possibly even happen?
Has to be corporate greed.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 142d
1/3 of all money has been printed since covid? Nice
krisevol@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 142d
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 141d
What if you borrow that from me and I borrow that back from you
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 143d
The six-packs of bottles sold in grocery stores have been 500mL for years. Probably somebody filled the machine with them. (The label should say, "Not Labelled for Individual Sale" near the barcode, if so.)
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 142d
Precisely. Everyone is bitching about shrinkflation, and it's probably just a vending machine owner cheaping out and buying multipacks at the grocery store instead of 20oz at a much higher wholesale price.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 142d
emerald@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 142d
A diet pepsi by the look of it
KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org · 9 pts · 141d
That's called "mislabeling"... or 'bait and switch'.
AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 142d
Shrinkflation! Must have taken a cold shower.
Etterra@discuss.online · 9 pts · 142d
Reminds me of the deodorant I just bought that's literally only halfway filled.
Wifi0041@fedinsfw.app · 7 pts · 143d
Misleading aside, I'm happy that the US is adopting metric.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 143d
I don't know if you're just not from the US, but this dual labeling of groceries has been ongoing for decades. The US formally began transitioning to metric during the 1970s and has had plenty of dual uses ever since; it got cut short due to a mix of public apathy and active public disapproval, and when it was on its last legs, Reagan axed the metrification board early in his first term (not a defense, but it was seriously barely doing anything by that time because of public unwillingness to change). Rulers have inches and centimeters; there are imperial and metric tools; kids do learn metric in schools (usually in the context of a science class); etc. You aren't expected to know metric as an average functioning adult, but it's everywhere and useful to know in US society – usually just kind of in the background like here.
TL;DR: "Is adopting" said in 2026 in response to soda labels is a steep misunderstanding of metrification in the US.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 143d
We’re not. Except in inner cities where it’s thriving
expatriado@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
we're miles behind in rural areas
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 143d
"Streets behind", even.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 143d
I think you mean kilometers behind.
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
“Blocks” behind
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 143d
We measure sodas bigger than this in Liters.
Not other liquids.... just Soda. Milk you buy a gallon of. Soda? 2 Liters. Saying you're gonna buy a gallon of Soda sounds very strange to an American. There's also 1 Liter bottles.
It's the one of the most stupid Americanisms.
drath@lemmy.drath.ru · 1 pts · 142d
Weird. Chugging cola from gallon jugs sounds like the most American thing one could think of, strange it's not a thing yet. Also never understood why Americans buy milk in jugs. Isn't this like the one thing you actually want to be in the smallest container possible? Do people drink that much milk, or are they commonly tossed unfinished when it inevitably spoils?
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 142d
We cook with and drink probably too much milk. Strong dairy lobby.
In my two person household we just do half gallons
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 142d
I've found oat milk keeps far longer and has enough fat content to substitute well into most recipes.
abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 143d
From Wikipedia:
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 143d
Yes, but 20 ounces doesn't equal 16 ounces, even for great values of 16.
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
A dry pint would be hard to enjoy
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 142d
on the sub that this was posted on, it was done by the vendors buying the bottles at places like costco.
BranBucket@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
I believe this is what the c-suite types are referring to as "innovation".
darthsundhaft@piefed.social · 4 pts · 143d
The missing ingredient is air.
Fontasia@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 142d
It's easier to make a bottle to sell in most countries rather than make a difference bottle for a single market. Especially when that market has lax consumer rights laws.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 142d
They still need different prints etc.
They’ll try to rationalize that part, but they still have to pay attention to regional preferences.
I don’t even know if the sizes are all the same here in EU. In Germany the most common bottle sizes are 250ml (1l/4), 330ml (1l/3), 500ml (1l/2), 750ml (3l/4) and 1l afaik. 200ml (1l/5), 375ml (3l/8) and 2l also seem to be a thing.
33cl is the standard for beer and 75cl for vine.
My measuring cap for my cola syrup has markings for 250ml, 500ml and 1l. As well as 615ml and 840ml because of Soda Stream bottle sizes.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Same here historically. US beer cans and bottles used to be 12 oz and I still occasionally see them. I even have one in my fridge.
But most new beers (as in new brands, new styles, actual good beer) are sold in pint cans, which in theory should match a bar draft (but don’t always and there are no regulations to protect consumers)
I never go into the “swill” aisle of my package store so my perspective may be biased
altphoto@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 142d
"We're" gonna be so skinny!
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 2 pts · 141d
Shrinkflation babyyyyyy
They did this to one of my favorite brands of ramen recently. The squares are noticeably smaller before you even open the package. I picked it up off the store shelf and something I've held in my hands dozens of times before felt noticeably lighter and tinier. Three would probably make one decent serving lol
They're not even from here. They're made in poland I think. The shrinkflation is inescapable...
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 141d
I don't know what it is you're trying to show. Is it that this drink is 500ml while all the others are 20 in whatever medieval unit is in use? I'm confused because the bepis says it's 16.9 floz, but if I type that into a converter it's not 500ml, and the other drinks are in oz, not in floz. I don't know if they're different. Is that the problem? One's by weight and one by volume? 500ml is standard for a large can in 90% of the world, fwiw.
b34k@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Dude bought a Diet Pepsi that was advertised as 20 oz but the bottle that came out only had 16.9 oz. (Or at least that’s what’s implied by the picture, who knows if that bottle actually came out of the machine…)
Dunno what’s so confusing tho
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 137d
night_petal@piefed.social · 1 pts · 142d
Look - we women get stressed sometimes.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 143d
This is the indignant response of someone who paid for a below IQ drink and expected the average IQ size.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
Did you mean to put those words in that order?
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Yeah. I stand by it. If you are supporting the corporations destroying our world, your either evil or you haven’t evolved an intelligence high enough to perceive that our corporate overlords are predators.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
And people were supposed to know that's what you're saying when you call a drink low IQ?
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 140d
Perhaps smart people?