Keeping it classy for my 1000th post

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esc@piefed.social · 60 pts · 118d (20 replies)

Do people consider sour cream a sauce?

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 43 pts · 118d (12 replies)

Yeah, some people even consider ketchup, mayonnaise, and mustard sauces.

Language wielded irresponsibly can be a mysterious and terrible thing.

doughless@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d (11 replies)

My son uses ketchup as if it were a sauce ...

Velypso@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 118d (10 replies)

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binarytobis@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Obviously it’s a sauce. I looked up the definition to try and figure out why they would say it isn’t, and I still don’t see it.

“a liquid or semisolid food mixture used especially as a topping or ingredient for adding to or enhancing the flavor of a dish”

doughless@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d (1 reply)

There's a lot more nuance in the definition in a culinary context: https://www.mashed.com/1338901/difference-between-sauce-condiment-dip/

But ignoring that context, yes, ketchup meets the literal definition of a sauce.

binarytobis@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 117d

What context needs to be ignored? Ketchup is a sauce, which when added to completed food becomes a condiment, just like all sauces. Plenty of dishes are cooked with ketchup in the cooking process. The conclusion from the article you posted:

when it comes to the question of condiment or sauce, the answer is “both”.

Sheppa@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 117d

Ketchup is called Tomato Sauce in Australia.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 118d (4 replies)

It's a condiment, which is not a sauce.

Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Its a subsection of sauces. A type of sauce fulfilling a more specific purpose than other sauces.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 117d (1 reply)

Careful! You're heading down a dangerous path!

Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d

Good god.

charonn0@startrek.website · 4 pts · 117d

According to my extensive 30 seconds of research, the difference is that a sauce is an integral ingredient, but a condiment is added after the dish is served. In which case, ketchup can be either or both, even in the same dish.

blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 118d

Love different coloured food wigs with my chips

FreshLight@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 118d

condiment to sauce is a spectrum :)

toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org · 3 pts · 118d

Anything's a sauce if you're brave enough 🎶

danc4498@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d

Milk is a saucy, you just gotta leave it on the counter long enough.

jballs@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 118d (2 replies)

I have one of those meal delivery kit subscriptions where they send you ingredients and recipes each week for you to make their meals. I am surprised at how many different sauces can be made with sour cream. Add a little bit of water, garlic, salt and pepper, - and you've got a delicious white sauce that goes on almost anything.

esc@piefed.social · 0 pts · 117d (1 reply)

Well yeah, no question there, but by itself it kind of doesn't count?

SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d

Not sure what shitty kind of sour cream yall get over there, but what is known as smetana in Eastern Europe is widely employed as a condiment. You can use it with meat dumplings or meatballs, or potato dumplings, or plain boiled potato or salted fish, you use it in salads, in soups like borscht. You can dip crepes or pancakes into it, or various kinds of pirozhki.

redsand@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 118d

Add lime juice and yes

some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 118d (4 replies)

Came here to mention tzatziki. With some cucumber sticks on a hot summer day? Absolutely glorious

Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 117d (3 replies)

I apologize for my ignorance. What the hell is that?

NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 117d

Yogurt, cucumber, dill, lemon, garlic. Really nice with grilled meats or roasted veggies

some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 117d (1 reply)

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Tzatziki is a creamy, tangy Greek yogurt-based sauce or dip made with shredded cucumber, garlic, olive oil, and fresh herbs like dill or mint, often served as a meze (appetizer) with pita bread and vegetables, or as a topping for gyros, souvlaki, and grilled meats or fish. It's known for being cool, refreshing, and versatile, with a simple preparation that involves mixing strained yogurt with grated, squeezed cucumber, minced garlic, herbs, and a splash of lemon juice or vinegar.

Here's a recipe: https://www.themediterraneandish.com/wprm_print/tzatziki-sauce-recipe

Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 117d

Every day I am part of the lucky 10,000 is a great day. Thank you for the recipe!

mech@feddit.org · 36 pts · 118d (24 replies)

Miracle Whip:

Exusia@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 118d (23 replies)

Legit top tier condiment that has supplanted mayonnaise and like half of the us doesnt even know it.

0ops@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 118d

I feel like I'm the only person who enjoys both. I have a bottle of each in my fridge right now

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 118d (19 replies)

If you don't know the difference between mayo and Miracle Whip, then you shouldn't even be participating in this discussion.

Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 118d (2 replies)

[Miracle Whip] has supplanted mayonnaise

if you dont know the difference ...

Clearly they know the difference. They just said one was better

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 118d (1 reply)

half of the us doesnt even know it.

He literally said this, and I was responding to it. And you tell me he didn't say it. It's right there. Read it.

Sc00ter@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 118d

Doesnt even know it is in reference to their opinion that miracle whip is superior, not that people dont know the difference.

Hysterical that you call me out for not reading it when your reading comprehension missed the whole point.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 118d (15 replies)

What is this Miracle whip?

FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 118d

It is to mayonnaise like margarine is to butter. An inferior imposter.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 118d (10 replies)

It's a mayo substitute that delis use for tuna and chicken salad. It is actually labelled "salad dressing" because of this use.

Mayo has a notoriously short life out of refrigeration before it becomes literally deadly. People die at summer picnics and family reunions every year from food-poisoning from spoiled potato salad and such. So delis use it because they can make up a giant batch in the morning, and keep it on display in the deli case under moderate refrigeration all day, without it going bad, and murdering their customers, which is so bad for business.

Unfortunately, it also has an unpleasant metallic taste that some people can ignore. I can't, any more than I can ignore the taste of Diet Coke.

ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d (5 replies)

Care to provide any obits or articles about deadly mayo picnics? Cause that's blatantly a lie or, more generously, an amazingly out of touch view on whipped oil.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 118d (4 replies)

I'm an old guy, and I've seen many examples in the news over the years. I remember a big one from the 80s or 90s when about 9 people from a single family died when the egg salad went bad at a family reunion.

I read that modern commercial mayo isn't what cause the food-poisoning because it tend to contain vinegar and such, but whenever there is an outbreak from a picnic, it's ALWAYS the food with the mayo.

I've read numerous similar stories over the years, did a basic Google search, and got this AI blurb:

Examples of Mayo-Related Food Poisoning Incidents

  • Raw Egg Mayo Ban (India): Telangana banned raw egg mayonnaise after over 20 people were hospitalized and one death was reported, linking the cases to contaminated mayo.
  • Salmonella in Restaurant Mayo (Saudi Arabia): A restaurant chain’s homemade mayonnaise was linked to an outbreak, with laboratory analysis finding Clostridium botulinum (causing botulism).
  • Restaurant Salad Outbreak: A 2000s-era case saw roughly 94 people develop Salmonellosis after consuming salads containing homemade mayonnaise that was left at room temperature for over 3 hours during assembly.
  • Club Sandwich Outbreak: An outbreak of Salmonella Typhimurium was traced back to egg mayonnaise sandwiches served at a club canteen.
  • Picnic/Buffet Risks: Potato salad, tuna salad, and egg salad left in the sun, where the low acidity of the potatoes or other ingredients allows bacteria to grow rapidly.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d

Heat alone does not cause those diseases. The way that you had stated it earlier made it seem like mayonnaise is a heat sensitive bomb. It seems more like you don't like mayo than mayo actually being bad.

wuffah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 118d

Enjoy the tangy zip of Miracle Whip!

…OR DIE!

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 117d (1 reply)

So, it is to Mayo what AI is to humans.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 117d

Valid

TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d

It’s also more sweetened whereas mayo is more fat. I grew up on miracle whip but my adult palate would prefer mayo

oyo@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Fake whipped cream mixed with fake mayonnaise. It's absolutely vile.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 117d (1 reply)

Got it!

helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d

Don't be fooled by them! It's delicious! It's mayo but a bit more of a "spicy" flavor and some sugar. (Not like a hot pepper spice, just a mild spice? idk it's hard to describe) great for sandwiches, horrible substitute for pretty much anything else that uses real mayo.

Whipped cream is probably the worst way to describe it, that's like describing blue cheese as ice cream. Very different things.

Tattorack@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d

I would very much rather not. That stuff is toxic as hell and I'm glad it's not in Europe.

danc4498@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d

I always wondered why some mayo based foods tasted rotten. I figured out much later it was cause they used miracle whip. As Mayo goes, Dukes or gtfo.

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 28 pts · 117d (2 replies)

Tzatziki!

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 117d

Yes, please! 🤤

Bgugi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d

They already listed cucumber sauce

9point6@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 118d (5 replies)

Bechamel is kinda mid without something else going on

FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 118d (3 replies)

Pretty banger IMO. Do you include salt, pepper and nutmeg when you make it ?

9point6@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Salt and pepper usually, the nutmeg not so much actually, but I pretty much only make it when I'm making a lasagne or as a step on the way to cheese sauce.

What's your best dish where it's the star?

lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 118d

Béchamel is a mother sauce. It doesn't star by itself usually. You can take it any direction from the base and make it a star, or use it as a great supporting actor that helps the main dish shine

FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 118d

I'd say some gratins (cauliflower, broccoli, etc) or croque-monsieur would be good candidates for that sauce and the nutmeg really makes the sauce pop (taste it for spiciness btw and adjust).

Regardless though, it is indeed a mother sauce as others have said

some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 118d

Béchamel is one of the mother sauces. It's meant to be used as a base or carrier sauce, never on its own. You can make an absolutely fire mac and cheese sauce by starting with a béchamel btw. Just don't skip the flour sifter, that shit's vital.

varjen@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 118d (2 replies)

One of these things are not like the others.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Yeah, most wouldn't consider sour cream a sauce 😉

varjen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d

And looking closer ranch is actually a dressing, not a sauce.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Nut.

JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 117d

Ejaculatory fluid. She declares that it's not trash. She likes it. It's fire.

Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 117d

Sauce.

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 118d

Also the milk sauce for your cereal.

colmear@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 117d (1 reply)

This can’t be a coincidence

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 117d

5715@feddit.org · 18 pts · 118d (8 replies)

Mayonnaise

Casterial@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d (6 replies)

Is the best one ever

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 118d (5 replies)

By itself? Absolutely disgusting.

As the base for a thousand other sauces and condiments? Absolutely vital.

fonix232@fedia.io · 4 pts · 118d

Forget the store bought mayo, and try any of the older (think 18th-19th century) recipes. You can replace the whisking with a stick blender but not the slow addition of oil and vinegar.

What you'll get is an amazing condiment/sauce that is much fluffier than mayonnaise as you know it today, much more flavourful, without the weird plasticky mouthfeel and taste, actually pleasant to eat.

mech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Mayonnaise is the C programming language of condiments.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 118d

No, C is actually useful on its own.

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Don’t tell the Dutch that.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d

They can't even come up with a language that doesn't sound like a joke, I ain't afraid of no Dutch

Tattorack@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d

My least favourite. I take ketchup over mayo.

remon@ani.social · 16 pts · 118d (2 replies)

ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 118d

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d

GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 118d (6 replies)
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faintwhenfree@lemmus.org · 12 pts · 118d (4 replies)

You're wrong. They're all soups. /s

mystik@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d

I think you mean Broth

Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Wait, where are you?

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 118d

Right behind you!

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d

They're also all goops.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d

yes

Dearth@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 117d (1 reply)

Under-represented but absolutely fire is Toum.

AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 117d

Toum is so good. It forever ruined garlic mayo for me.

For anyone who doesn't know toum is a Lebanese sauce that uses garlic as the emulsifier, rather than eggs. This means that it's also vegan. Garlic is also a weaker emulsifier than eggs, so it's insanely garlicky. Any vampire hunters should consider getting Lebanese food before their next hunting trip for this reason

Slovene85@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 118d

Alfredo's nut sauce.

Tattorack@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 118d (1 reply)

I dunno. I find sourcream and ranch overrated.

I'm more partial to eastern sauces.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 118d

I find sourcream and ranch overrated

mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 117d (2 replies)

why tf is ranch in this list

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 117d

Spiciest food a Midwestern can handle

AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d

I'd rather eat a bucket of rotten squirrel ass holes than put ranch on anything

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 118d (1 reply)

What nut gives white sauce? Can't imagine.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 118d

The kind that comes from a cylinder that must remain unharmed

tomi000@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Yoghurt

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 118d (4 replies)

Carbonara.

mere@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 118d

AND CARBONARA IS DELICIOUS

then_three_more@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Is not a sauce. It's just egg yoke and cheese

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 118d

Sauce is a sauce is a sauce.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 118d

1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 117d (4 replies)

Our local BBQ joint has an alabama white sauce that is like crack. I can't get enough of it

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d (1 reply)

You're not in Virginia, by chance? My all-time favorite place (with caveats) also had an Alabama sauce.

1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d

Nope, northern Minnesota. So like not proper southern barbeque, but pretty damn good for the frozen north

Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 117d (1 reply)

The fuck is an alabama?

You mean sambal?

RavingGrob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 117d

"Alabama white sauce

North Alabama is known for its distinctive white sauce, a mayonnaise-based sauce that also includes apple cider vinegar, sugar, salt, and black pepper, which is used predominantly on chicken and pork."

Sauce

Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 117d (2 replies)

Unpopular opinion: Ranch is shit.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 117d

JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 117d

No, thats just a non-american opinion.

humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 118d (10 replies)

Eww, ranch

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 118d (8 replies)

most ranch is trash, but have you ever had uncle dan's? It's pretty good

humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 118d (7 replies)

The only Uncle Dan I know is a pedo. Thankfully he never made me taste his ranch.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d (6 replies)

i'm sorry you had the displeasure of knowing someone with those predilections. on topic, there's a really good dip company called uncle dan's. we get packets of spice mixes (like, for ranch dressing. just add sour cream or mayo or whatever. great for veggie platters) from them. I first had their ranch up in Oregon and they are my go-to ranch when I am not making my homemade buttermilk ranch (about equal parts buttermilk and mayo, get the right consistency for your dressing, then add the following spices to taste: garlic powder, onion powder, dried parsley, and a teensy pinch of salt. i think that's it but it's my mom's recipe and my wife makes it the best out of all of us). i am the dip queen of the family and this is The One Dip they get better than me it is my white whale.

humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 117d (5 replies)

I will have to take your word for it. I've tried many a ranch dressing that people swore was the best ranch and even people who don't like ranch will like this ranch. I've never liked any of them. At this point it's probably part of my identity.

But I'm glad you enjoy it.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 117d (4 replies)

The difference is generally making it fresh versus buying it in a bottle.

humanamerican@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 117d (3 replies)

I've had homemade ranch before. Still tastes like ranch, which is the problem for me.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 116d

Excuse me but I have a really, really shitty degree in economics and tastes and preferences are only allowed to differ when you do a kickflip

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 117d

Your opinion is bad.

SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d

When you're eating Jeezus at holy communion, just don't ask for mayo.

Bladesurge@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d (2 replies)

I bought a garlic sauce that is kinda mid

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 118d

Skill issue.

some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 118d

Toum is the only acceptable garlic sauce

HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 118d (2 replies)

Mexican crema yum!

SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d (1 reply)

I'm making fish tacos tonight. Must have my homemade crema!

HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 117d

Delish!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d

labne

wuffah@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 118d (1 reply)

What kind of white sauce is made from nuts?

CriticalMiss@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 117d (3 replies)

No mayo? I love mayo

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 117d (2 replies)

Me too, but mayo's a condiment rather than a sauce

CriticalMiss@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 117d (1 reply)

In my native language there’s no such thing as “condiment”, it’s all sauce. Packaging at the shops even say “Mayo sauce”.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 117d

“Mayo sauce”.

Even though my native language doesn't have a word for condiment either, there's something deeply unsettling about that term to me for some reason 😬😄

gerowen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 117d

The liquid cheese you get at Mexican restaurants is amazing.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 118d

😏

srestegosaurio@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 118d (1 reply)

Excuseme? Alioli??

This take is so bad it could be sponsored by Netanyahu, ffs. /lh

Tattorack@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 118d

Aioli is amazing. But ONLY if done right.

No, Aioli is not garlic mayonnaise!

KuroiKaze@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 117d

Every single white sauce is inferior to its counterparts except country gravy.

Mayo garbage without becoming spicy aioli

Ranch no use something mustard based

Sour cream, go back to Iowa or use habanero crema

Alfredo never beats marinara

Tzatki will never be better than the red sauce

Pussy grool over nut all day every day

icelimit@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 117d

Mayo is ass. How do you deal with it? Plenty of shit white sauces imo.

But your mom says my nut sauce is the best.