Israelis are finally revolting against Netanyahu — for agreeing to the U.S. ceasefire with Iran

Like I haven't heard that feeble argument from an americunt when he looked up Belgium to try some whataboutism.
Bravo you've found ONE straw to grasp at from a long time ago where the circumstances are in no way comparable.
We're talking about support of the people.
For one, what did people know back then about the private endeavour of a royal or about anything remotely distant from where they lived?
Yes that definitely is the same as the people of the US shithole supporting nearly all their violent imperialism and terrorism while they have every opportunity to know they're wrong.
Oh, and BTW, it's your cancer shithole that took over in Congo and about everywhere they could in Africa.
So you can fuck right off with your ridiculous gotcha attempt.

I like your funny words, magic man

I was told there would be no math

you know you finally demonstrated a reasonable use for the keys on the number row (i prefer tenkey for numbers anyways) and coding in logic ascii would be perfect. i just need to make myself some keycaps. and the library with the 3d printer is just a 7 hour bikeride away...

No it is not misinformation. Hagana, Irgun and lehi was predominantly by from foreign Jewish Zionists . Those Zionists who bombed Arabs, British and jews in a same attack on an Hotel was going to steal the land with or without Belfour . That's not to say that evangelical Christians do not have influenced in America and support for Israeli terrorism and settler colonialism .

Many secular countries has normal relation with the genocidal settler colonial power for decades too.

Why are you fixared on the detail of those BS numbers, they oppose the CONSEQUENCES, not the war itself.
And as I said, doesn't compare in the least to the scale of US war crimes and casualties.
They had murdered infinitely more before shitrael's miserable existence.
If I could only take one off the map it wwould be the US, the other would follow shortly.

There's value to a discussion without reaching agreement. I'm actually not trying to convince you, rather to understand you and help you understand me. Which is why I appreciate your reply.

Looking at the situation in Israel by race is wrong to the extent that I actually feel a bit racist. Israel is made of Jews mainly from eastern European and Middle eastern ethnicity. The ones who support the occupation and are generally more right wing are from the middle east (Ben Gvir, the head of the most right wing party in the Israeli parliament was born to Iraqi parents), but the best indicator if someone is pro-peace or pro-war is, surprise surprise, religion.

Realistically, if you make up a list of aggression, it'll be a long road ending with "does the fact that Jews came to their historic homeland in mandatory Palestine in the goal of having their own state there even though other people were living in that area constitute an act of aggression". I'd be interested to hear your opinion on that one, but I'm not sure that really matters. The fact is that Israel exists, and the only way it's going anywhere is if the Arab states will do to it what you're accusing Israel of doing to them. It's also worth mentioning that the Jews didn't chose mandatory Palestine because they like the weather or the view, but because that is where the Jewish people came to be, and they themselves were banished from the area by a colonial power. While this happened hundreds of years ago, at the very least I think it means that the Jews have more "right" to Israel than, say any ex-colonial state (US, Canada, Argentina, Australia etc.).

But lets take for example the closest Palestinians ever came to their own state and Israel came to living in peace - the Oslo accords. They were met with murderous acts on both sides (including the assassination of Israel's prime minister by a Jewish terrorist), and of course every side viewed the other one as the aggressor and the accords fell apart for the most part. You can't really put the finger on either side. The blame should go to the extremists on both sides for believing they have a right to the entire area and willing to commit murder in order to try and get it.

I understand what you're saying about Hezbollah and Hamas, but if your family was kidnapped and tortured by someone, you wouldn't call them "annoying little terrorists". That said, you are correct in saying they are weaker than Israel. Which brings me to an important point - let's say we have two sides engaged in a blood feud, but one side has access to firearms while the other only has knives. Would you say the side with the firearms is the aggressor, or would you say they happen to have a better way of attacking the other side?

Israel, as the stronger side, has a moral duty to restrain themselves and consider the way their actions affect Palestinian civilians. But that doesn't mean Hamas are excused from any moral consideration, and at the very least have a duty not to target civilians specifically.

I can't really know what Iran is going to have or what their plan is, but for someone who often states Israel is a cancerous regime that should not exist while also being religious extremists, it's not unreasonable of Israel to be afraid of a nuclear Iran.

You seem to be trying to force a straw man of some "zionist" caricature you have without trying to understand what I'm actually saying.

I didn't say Palestinians want to kill all Israelis. I said that a survey that shows that 72% of Palestinians support atrocities done to Israelis (which is an actual survey that was done by a Palestinian research center) DOES NOT mean they want to kill all Israelis. I literally said I'd feel the same way if I were in their shoes.

I provided a link to the arms control association that states "Iran’s advances included enriching uranium to 60 percent, a level close to weapons-grade that has no practical civilian application, and deploying advanced centrifuges that enrich uranium more efficiently". These are facts that have been verified, and even Iran's own head of the Atomic Energy Organization has admitted they have enriched uranium to 60%.

edit: I prefered to focus on one thing at the beginigng, but if anyone is lying it's the editors of the Mondoweiss. Lapid (and many others) didn't criticize Netanyahu for agreeing to a ceasefire, rather for "trying to sell the battle in Iran was as a success” and for the poor outcome of the war, the "revolt" pictured in the photograph is from 2023 against the Israeli version of project 2025, and there's no mention of multiple protests held against the war.

1. Sorry, a bit out of the loop, what Epstein regime media?
2. Yes, the current Israeli government is very much anti Israeli civilians (much like the current US government is anti US civilians, cough-ICE-cough).
3. Aljazeera stated Iran's cluster warheads "disperse munitions over a wide area and are particularly dangerous for civilians". It fits with other sources I read and have no reason to doubt that.
4. To answer your question - yes.

You (I'm guessing, but fell free to correct me): Israel writes off every piece of criticism as antisemitic! What a dirty, bad faith dishonest tactic!

You when someone says some criticism against Israel is incorrect: NAZI!!!

Could you quote on lie I said?

(it might also worth pointing out Israel didn't colonize Iran)

I don't, those children suffered enough.

(CerealKiller01 would like to take this opportunity to say he doesn't take lightly the murder of children, but he also doesn't appreciate using murdered children as a rhetorical device)