I can't believe so many men are insecure about being me. I'm me and it's pretty damn cool. The feeling of fresh grass on my chin in the spring... the cover of mushrooms when it rains... the company of leprechauns... I see only pros and no cons
I’m 6’3 and tall to most people, but fit under most doors just fine.
Basement stairs can fuck right off though I’ve done that lotsa times and it managed to be a surprising painful thing every time.
Also I think I’d laugh if someone said and if the short guy things to me, I get called things like string bean and “big guy” by bros who don’t know me.
But seriously...beside the silly "men shall be tall" (why even? To protect others from lions?) There aren't many benefits to being taller than average.
And my largest downside: I'd love a woman that's taller than me. But there aren't many...
Oh yes...in some buildings, where the ceiling is very close to my head, I feel very cramped and hate it.
Had to move through cellars where I had to basically crouch. Ugh.
Actually I just remembered one minus: tall people are used to not bumping their head on low things. Once I was visiting a museum where they have an old house with really low door ways, low even for me and I was constantly knocking my head because I am not used to having to crouch.
Hehe, yeah. i have that as a reflex. ducking whenever i go through a door. because i bumped my cute lil bald head way too often and learned the hard way :)
But given the choice, I'd rather be shorter. like 1,6m or so. That'd be optimal.
You missed the "everyone thinks you are there just to reach things for them". Women in particular seem to feel entitled to my reach. The few men that ask are either walking with a cane or sitting in a wheelchair.
Even my Wife, 5"4"/163cm has no problem interrupting me from whatever I'm doing to reach things for her. Despite having 3 step stools in the house just for her.
But if it gets to be too much of a hassle and pisses me off, I start asking her to pick things up off the floor for me because she's closer to it. She then has a fit because I'm making fun of her height, and then she stops asking me-- for a while.
Oh yes...if I'm alone noone ever talks to me (resting bitch-face-syndrome), but when I'm shopping with wifey, I get asked at least once per trip to fetch shit off a shelf.
But also yes, exclusively women or handicapped men. A "normal" guy would probably rather die than ask another guy for help.
Wifey rarely asks though, she actually prefers a step-stool or whatever before asking for help.
I don’t think a lot of men are insecure about 5’4. I think it’s more the 5’7 to 5’11 guys that are insecure. Better to be abnormally short than average.
Woop, someone who isn't okay with a double-standard! I guess a "RealMan™" would take it on the chin and not be offended, right? Don't worry, just be okay with being walked on like a fucking doormat, and if you get upset about it we'll just use that as ammunition to demean you even more! And if we push you past your psychological breaking point then we'll all act shocked and call you aggressive and wonder "How could this happen?"
Blame the individual for the inevitable consequences of a societal outlook. And if it starts happening with millions of individuals then we'll just blame them all as individuals because they must be fundamentally and inherently flawed, and not just psychologically damaged by constant bullying and ostracization.
Oh, but it's not victim blaming when the victim is a man, right? "If you got bullied, what did you do to deserve it?" "Maybe if you dressed like a normal person people wouldn't pick on you so much." "People can sense a pushover, just have confidence and you'll get more respect."
Honestly, go fuck yourself you privileged little shit.
I'm so glad I'm not short. Short guys just get shit on so much. Been at parties where someone just out of nowhere says "You'd be hot if you wasn't short". Like imagine that for anything else "you'd be hot if you wasn't black". "You'd be hot if you wasn't in a wheelchair" just getting shit on for genetics.
Same girls also cry murder if somebody says something about a fat girl, which is in their control.
Own yourself, short king, and people will be drawn to you like magic. It’s not confidence, it’s loving and accepting yourself. That’s all. Self-love creates a gravity for more love.
Anyone so shallow that they would judge you by your height is someone you don’t want be involved with. As soon as you get to know someone, their appearance ceases to matter and all that is left is the human being underneath. Consider those situations bullets dodged.
As a short dude myself I wish this were true. I’m confident and have accepted my fate. Yet even when I thought we were grooving and clearly compatible I’d still get hit with “sorry you’re not tall enough,” even when she was like 5’0. I don’t know how the hell I got lucky to get my wife, but she’s clearly the exception not the norm.
I think it might come down to some kind of internalized power trip of perceived desirability (to other women perhaps, or maybe their parents or something) by women or girls who promote or attach themselves to those types of toxic notions. It’s like a toned down version of people obsessing over boob size, penis size, butt size, facial shape, hair/skin/nails etc. It’s like there’s no end for some people who go down that route of wanting to be perceived of as perfect in all ways at all times to all people.
It does suck how many people fall into those types of frameworks though. To me it has sometimes felt like, to varying degrees, that my drive to make connections, relate to others, procreate (thanks nature), or seek vindication through others are often at odds with themselves, and that valuing someone for their virtues is not always a typical mode of behavior that people are generally taught to recognize the usefulness of or learn to practice in their own relationships.
I never know what to say when people comment on my height. I try to not be too judgmental of people for their appearances or abilities based upon first impressions, though I also haven’t found many good ways of helping others overcome the trauma of having to deal with numerous people who all seem to operate under limited presumptions about life, power, influence, or imposition of values in an attempt to “universalize” their preferences, adversities, or assessments they have made that often are akin to some type of “root-cause-analysis” statements for determining the motivations for the behaviors of others in their lives.
I think that your sentiment about “fat” people is true about 80-90% of the time around the world. Though I have heard that some places literally have “food deserts” in which supermarkets don’t really exist, or the ones that do might not stock healthy options. And in other situations some folks might only be able to afford (financially or executive-functionally) unhealthier options that might either take less time to select or prepare, or cost less money or driving time to procure. I think that’s probably where the downvote is coming from is people who feel unable to escape obesity due to a variety of limiting factors in their day-to-day lives which inhibit them from taking preliminary steps. not to say that going on a walk or taking the extra effort is not within their control, but that some people still struggle with it anyways, sometimes for reasons that seem counterintuitive or like that they should not be a real issue to deal with in practice but wind up being so anyways for some people who have never learned ways around the problems (or haven’t tried all or perhaps any of the different options yet) that they are dealing with.
there have also been decades-long propaganda campaigns by various lobbying groups to sow misinformation about dietary recommendations which leave me a bit more sympathetic to people who fall for the promises of various fad diets which sometimes go around in certain populations, (keto, paleo, plant-based [for health {separate in my perspective from people who legitimately decide for themselves to go “vegan for the animals”}] , fasting schedules [again for health reasons, I know religious fasting also to have a different meaning and origination of intention/purpose for lots of people], etc.)
But we need to accept life is harder for short guys. If you just want to get laid, harder. If you want a promotion, harder. If you want to be treated nicer, harder.
All those things you said help and are good. But not not pretend hightism doesn't exist.
'There is a form of socially acceptable discrimination against a subset of people based around a fundamental intrinsic element of those people that they are totally incapable of changing.'
'Chin up, be strong, don't let the bastards get you down!'
Oh so ... not a situation where we maybe need or could benefit from a serious society-wide discussion of this problem, the solution to this form of bigotry is uh... its a personal responsibility.
I understood it and agree with the societal premise underneath. However, you put words in my mouth that I did not say or imply. As someone who claims to also be autistic, I expected better from you. I would encourage you to read what I said again, and think about what I did say rather than an imaginary thing I did not say.
Oh I'm doing this thing called paraphrasing, to illustrate how what you're saying sounds to people who are not you and may not think the same way as you do.
Had I intended to actually quote you, I would have used
actual quote formatting.
Do you agree or disagree that shaming of shorter men is a socially acceptable form of bigotry?
Can you see how you proposing an individualistic solution to that, where you likely would propose a social solution to other social problems... is something of a double standard?
(As an example, men openly shaming/insulting overweight women)
Finally: My paraphrasing of what you said is in fact accurate. You suggested that the solution to this problem is for men to just be confident in knowing that bigots are bad people.
If I talk about how great guacamole is, I am not talking shit about poutine, I am talking about how great guacamole is.
For now I will assume you are having a bad day and that is why you are attacking internet strangers over imaginary arguments. Whatever you are going through, I hope your day gets better.
Yeah, my idea of being a 'man' includes the part where you wingman for your shorter buddies.
(in the context of 'everyone is single and out to mingle')
Some chick (or dude, or w/e if your bro is amenable) comes on to you at a bar?
Chat them up a bit, introduce them to your unironically very cool and awesome shorter friend, tell them a story about the one time bro made you look like an idiot, then metaphorically hand the mic over to him, etc.
Call it anti-chad type bro behvaior, I dunno.
Like, to me, thats what 'Bros before Hoes' means.
It means you don't personally scour the field yourself, there has to be some sense of equity.
Don't make the problem worse, instead, try to be part of the solution.
I think rage baiting requires some degree of deniability and subterfuge. The "[normal question] if you were athletic?" is a good example. The ones that are just "Shut up short man" are too crass
idk if i'm built different but i'd laugh at all of these bc they got me good. except sometimes i would answer to the feelings thing with "yes, that hurt" or some shit like that.
I'm actually a little surprised at the reactions in this thread. When I read this, I was thinking of my husband and friends I could casually drop these lines on, and it's something we'd all laugh about. I guess I just wasn't thinking of someone using any of these lines sincerely or maliciously, and idk I didnt get the vibe that OP is just a straight cunt that hates men. But I could be totally wrong.
At any rate, somewhere in the thread below, u/wonderingwanderer created an alternate woman ragebait list, and that shit was hilarious as well. My personal favorite was "Act your weight".
I don't know chippy, but I don't get that vibe either. I can tell you that wanderingwonderer is known for throwing a tantrum every time men come up in conversation, so :shrug:
Was act your weight at the bottom of that list? That is fucked up. xD
I've seen random episodes of ghost in the shell and cowboy beebop when I was maybe 10-12. I'm not necessarily against anime I just dont watch much TV in general and I think I'm particularly picky with anime. I wouldnt want anything taking place in a school, silly, weirdly animated or ultra slow.
You'd better be at least 6'7" before saying most of that to me since it won't make any sense otherwise. But joke's on you anyway since I'd just fall in love
Yeah they would only work on average height people I assume. Small guys know they are small and you cannot really call someone small if you have to look up to tell them that
As a 5'1" lady who almost always has to look up to look someone in the eye, the height ones are the only ones I'm considering using. Cause 99% of the time, it'd just be an absurd thing for someone of my stature to throw at someone else. But it's of course all in good fun. I wouldn't say it to a dude who might be sensitive about his height - even if he is taller than me.
Well, the man community has historically punished women who are outspoken in order to enforce a hierarchy of unpaid labour and lack of voting rights, so as to cement the control of the ruling class; first the aristocracy, and later the bourgeiosie.
So you're saying women demand that men be tall, so that they can exploit men for unpaid labour, restrict their right to vote, and control all of society?
I disagree, I think women place beauty standards on men for different reasons than men place beauty standards on women. At least when it comes to submission.
I mean, you asked a question but already had this thought to begin with, that directly answered your own question; so you were being either asinine or manipulatingly leading.
Either way, you're allowed to disagree with my statement, but I stand by it, vapid people are vapid regardless of gender or justification.
I didn't know the answer before and I don't know it now. I just know it can't be because the matriarchy wants to brainwash men into being servants for women. That's fucking stupid.
Forget height requirements, the man who said the reasons are the same has failed My intelligence requirement.
Ngl I wanna look as manly as the next blahaj lurker but I still feel like being tall would help in one particular area.
When people see a conventionally unattractive "guy" being antisocial, the default assumption is not mental health, it's that they must be a bigoted incel.
Because if you are deemed too short, there is a very good number of women that won't date you. And if you are tall, even more women seem to think you exist just to reach things for them. And once you reach a certain height, the world isn't really designed for you to live in anymore.
"Wow you got a new truck! I didn't think you had a micropenis that small."
"Wauw you're really overcompensating something huh, I wonder what, that is hahaha."
"Some men have this big dick energy, meaning they act chill because they know they don't have to prove anything so they don't behave like an asshole. It's funny that you have the exact opposite."
"Awww did something hurt your little boy's feelings? In my desk I have for you a tampon and a box of crayons, which one would you prefer?"
"Why are you treating women that way, are you trying to hide your oedipus complex?"
224 Comments
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 162 pts · 101d
This is such a short guy thing to post.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 101d
Okay buddy
Dojan@pawb.social · 41 pts · 101d
Did you think apartment would change your hair?
restingOface@quokk.au · 11 pts · 101d
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 100d
Act your height.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 133 pts · 101d
I'm 165cm (5'4")
Everything I say is a short guy thing to say
I can't believe so many men are insecure about being me. I'm me and it's pretty damn cool. The feeling of fresh grass on my chin in the spring... the cover of mushrooms when it rains... the company of leprechauns... I see only pros and no cons
jdr@lemmy.ml · 46 pts · 101d
Ya but I bet you've never felt the abrupt bliss of donking your head on a doorframe.
SEND_BUTTPLUG_PICS@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 101d
That dude doesn't even know the pleasure of having his knees jammed into the seat in front of him on a plane.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website · 13 pts · 101d
He's never seen the top shelf either
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 100d
It's really dusty
Source - I'm tall and don't dust things
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 100d
I'm 5'3 and I've seen plenty of top shelves. I just have to climb shit to do it.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
At least you're retaining our ancestorial skillset.
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 100d
I’m 6’3 and tall to most people, but fit under most doors just fine.
Basement stairs can fuck right off though I’ve done that lotsa times and it managed to be a surprising painful thing every time.
Also I think I’d laugh if someone said and if the short guy things to me, I get called things like string bean and “big guy” by bros who don’t know me.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 101d
Does it count if you're running into a vehicle side mirror instead of a doorframe?
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 100d
have you ever been to europe?
jdr@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 100d
Yes. In Spain I'm a giant and in the Netherlands I'm a dwarflet.
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 100d
I meant door frames of very old buildings
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 101d
Lol. But here, have some actually great benefits I wish I had:
But there are also benefits...like having a better oversight over crowds and. Err....yes.
lauha@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 100d
Here's more benefits:
Wait, what was the topic again?
DisasterTransport@startrek.website · 6 pts · 100d
Rock and stone
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 100d
I lold at the last one 😁
But seriously...beside the silly "men shall be tall" (why even? To protect others from lions?) There aren't many benefits to being taller than average.
And my largest downside: I'd love a woman that's taller than me. But there aren't many...
lauha@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
Seriously the biggest benefit is that I always fit in places and never feel cramped
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 99d
Oh yes...in some buildings, where the ceiling is very close to my head, I feel very cramped and hate it. Had to move through cellars where I had to basically crouch. Ugh.
lauha@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
Actually I just remembered one minus: tall people are used to not bumping their head on low things. Once I was visiting a museum where they have an old house with really low door ways, low even for me and I was constantly knocking my head because I am not used to having to crouch.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 99d
Hehe, yeah. i have that as a reflex. ducking whenever i go through a door. because i bumped my cute lil bald head way too often and learned the hard way :) But given the choice, I'd rather be shorter. like 1,6m or so. That'd be optimal.
Epp@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 100d
Another benefit is slightly longer lifespan as the heart doesn't need to work as hard for blood to travel as much distance.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 100d
Phhht it's not that much of a diffe....ugh..😵
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
You missed the "everyone thinks you are there just to reach things for them". Women in particular seem to feel entitled to my reach. The few men that ask are either walking with a cane or sitting in a wheelchair.
Even my Wife, 5"4"/163cm has no problem interrupting me from whatever I'm doing to reach things for her. Despite having 3 step stools in the house just for her.
But if it gets to be too much of a hassle and pisses me off, I start asking her to pick things up off the floor for me because she's closer to it. She then has a fit because I'm making fun of her height, and then she stops asking me-- for a while.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 100d
Oh yes...if I'm alone noone ever talks to me (resting bitch-face-syndrome), but when I'm shopping with wifey, I get asked at least once per trip to fetch shit off a shelf.
But also yes, exclusively women or handicapped men. A "normal" guy would probably rather die than ask another guy for help.
Wifey rarely asks though, she actually prefers a step-stool or whatever before asking for help.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 101d
That's such a short guy thing to say.
Phunter@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 100d
No cons except leprechauns.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 100d
That's very big of you!
Tiral@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 101d
You learn to cope or you get mad. I'm glad you coped with being Frodo's brother.
yeather@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 99d
I don’t think a lot of men are insecure about 5’4. I think it’s more the 5’7 to 5’11 guys that are insecure. Better to be abnormally short than average.
CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social · 1 pts · 100d
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 105 pts · 101d
In other words, "be a dick to somebody and watch them get angry." Not sure why that's gendered.
Also, most of this is promoting toxic masculinity, so if it's supposed to have a quasi-feminist undertone, it's not doing it right.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 101d
Relax, it's not that deep.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 100d
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 33 pts · 101d
I'm sure if someone made the same post about women it would be a totally different story...
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d
Whatever makes you feel big and strong!
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
It's probably hard always being wrong.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 100d
Really? You don't think so. Okay, let's try an experiment
(Disclaimer: the following statements do not reflect the views or opinions of the author)
There. Is the blatant sexism obvious enough yet? Or is that only acceptable when it's directed at men?
grubberneonbelly@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 100d
Act your weight is crazy lmao
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 100d
So is "Act your height"
Do you see the parallel?
grubberneonbelly@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 100d
Yes of course its just so funny to imagine someone saying either of these things sincerely
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 100d
You wouldn't get it
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 100d
You apparently don't...
emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 100d
It's wild that through all these replies you somehow haven't realized that people are just saying things off the list to you...
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
Have you ever noticed that people who are "always wrong" are seldom bothered by that fact?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 100d
Ok buddy
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 100d
Or funny
Naz@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 100d
Haha, there it is
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 100d
Woop, someone who isn't okay with a double-standard! I guess a "RealMan™" would take it on the chin and not be offended, right? Don't worry, just be okay with being walked on like a fucking doormat, and if you get upset about it we'll just use that as ammunition to demean you even more! And if we push you past your psychological breaking point then we'll all act shocked and call you aggressive and wonder "How could this happen?"
Blame the individual for the inevitable consequences of a societal outlook. And if it starts happening with millions of individuals then we'll just blame them all as individuals because they must be fundamentally and inherently flawed, and not just psychologically damaged by constant bullying and ostracization.
Oh, but it's not victim blaming when the victim is a man, right? "If you got bullied, what did you do to deserve it?" "Maybe if you dressed like a normal person people wouldn't pick on you so much." "People can sense a pushover, just have confidence and you'll get more respect."
Honestly, go fuck yourself you privileged little shit.
OozingPositron@feddit.cl · -3 pts · 100d
You sound emotional right now.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 100d
Are you implying that that's a bad thing?
Should we all be emotionless automatons?
OozingPositron@feddit.cl · -1 pts · 100d
Do things normally work out for you when you do that?
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 100d
You're so fucking original, seriously where do you get your jokes? Do you come up with them all yourself?
gray@lemmy.ml · 68 pts · 101d
I don't understand the need for hating on short men and body shaming. We should come together to hate on men for their character.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 101d
You wouldn't get it
gray@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 100d
YoU wOUldN'T gEt It
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 101d
Went over his head, poor little guy.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
It's their idea of what a facist looks like while ignoring the fact that Trump is pretty big.
Wander@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 100d
I'm so glad I'm not short. Short guys just get shit on so much. Been at parties where someone just out of nowhere says "You'd be hot if you wasn't short". Like imagine that for anything else "you'd be hot if you wasn't black". "You'd be hot if you wasn't in a wheelchair" just getting shit on for genetics.
Same girls also cry murder if somebody says something about a fat girl, which is in their control.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 100d
For the shorties out there.
Own yourself, short king, and people will be drawn to you like magic. It’s not confidence, it’s loving and accepting yourself. That’s all. Self-love creates a gravity for more love.
Anyone so shallow that they would judge you by your height is someone you don’t want be involved with. As soon as you get to know someone, their appearance ceases to matter and all that is left is the human being underneath. Consider those situations bullets dodged.
BioDriver@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 100d
As a short dude myself I wish this were true. I’m confident and have accepted my fate. Yet even when I thought we were grooving and clearly compatible I’d still get hit with “sorry you’re not tall enough,” even when she was like 5’0. I don’t know how the hell I got lucky to get my wife, but she’s clearly the exception not the norm.
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space · 2 pts · 99d
I think it might come down to some kind of internalized power trip of perceived desirability (to other women perhaps, or maybe their parents or something) by women or girls who promote or attach themselves to those types of toxic notions. It’s like a toned down version of people obsessing over boob size, penis size, butt size, facial shape, hair/skin/nails etc. It’s like there’s no end for some people who go down that route of wanting to be perceived of as perfect in all ways at all times to all people.
It does suck how many people fall into those types of frameworks though. To me it has sometimes felt like, to varying degrees, that my drive to make connections, relate to others, procreate (thanks nature), or seek vindication through others are often at odds with themselves, and that valuing someone for their virtues is not always a typical mode of behavior that people are generally taught to recognize the usefulness of or learn to practice in their own relationships.
I never know what to say when people comment on my height. I try to not be too judgmental of people for their appearances or abilities based upon first impressions, though I also haven’t found many good ways of helping others overcome the trauma of having to deal with numerous people who all seem to operate under limited presumptions about life, power, influence, or imposition of values in an attempt to “universalize” their preferences, adversities, or assessments they have made that often are akin to some type of “root-cause-analysis” statements for determining the motivations for the behaviors of others in their lives.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
I don't care about being short. The hypocrisy pisses me off. At least you can do something about being fat.
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space · 1 pts · 99d
I think that your sentiment about “fat” people is true about 80-90% of the time around the world. Though I have heard that some places literally have “food deserts” in which supermarkets don’t really exist, or the ones that do might not stock healthy options. And in other situations some folks might only be able to afford (financially or executive-functionally) unhealthier options that might either take less time to select or prepare, or cost less money or driving time to procure. I think that’s probably where the downvote is coming from is people who feel unable to escape obesity due to a variety of limiting factors in their day-to-day lives which inhibit them from taking preliminary steps. not to say that going on a walk or taking the extra effort is not within their control, but that some people still struggle with it anyways, sometimes for reasons that seem counterintuitive or like that they should not be a real issue to deal with in practice but wind up being so anyways for some people who have never learned ways around the problems (or haven’t tried all or perhaps any of the different options yet) that they are dealing with.
there have also been decades-long propaganda campaigns by various lobbying groups to sow misinformation about dietary recommendations which leave me a bit more sympathetic to people who fall for the promises of various fad diets which sometimes go around in certain populations, (keto, paleo, plant-based [for health {separate in my perspective from people who legitimately decide for themselves to go “vegan for the animals”}] , fasting schedules [again for health reasons, I know religious fasting also to have a different meaning and origination of intention/purpose for lots of people], etc.)
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
Cool. What life style changes should I make to get taller?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 99d
Well technically, you could have your legs shattered, and then stretched out, casted up.
You know, just a simple lifestyle change, nothing major, no chance that could horrendously backfire.
Like, uh, its looksmaxxing for your... legs... or something.
Wander@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 99d
I mean yea.
But we need to accept life is harder for short guys. If you just want to get laid, harder. If you want a promotion, harder. If you want to be treated nicer, harder.
All those things you said help and are good. But not not pretend hightism doesn't exist.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 99d
twink supremacy!!
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 99d
'There is a form of socially acceptable discrimination against a subset of people based around a fundamental intrinsic element of those people that they are totally incapable of changing.'
'Chin up, be strong, don't let the bastards get you down!'
Oh so ... not a situation where we maybe need or could benefit from a serious society-wide discussion of this problem, the solution to this form of bigotry is uh... its a personal responsibility.
Got it.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
@sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com honey, I thought better of you than that. 🥺
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 98d
Maybe you could think about what I say, then.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
I understood it and agree with the societal premise underneath. However, you put words in my mouth that I did not say or imply. As someone who claims to also be autistic, I expected better from you. I would encourage you to read what I said again, and think about what I did say rather than an imaginary thing I did not say.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 98d
Oh I'm doing this thing called paraphrasing, to illustrate how what you're saying sounds to people who are not you and may not think the same way as you do.
Had I intended to actually quote you, I would have used
Do you agree or disagree that shaming of shorter men is a socially acceptable form of bigotry?
Can you see how you proposing an individualistic solution to that, where you likely would propose a social solution to other social problems... is something of a double standard?
(As an example, men openly shaming/insulting overweight women)
Finally: My paraphrasing of what you said is in fact accurate. You suggested that the solution to this problem is for men to just be confident in knowing that bigots are bad people.
Cool, but that doesn't stop the bigotry.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 98d
If I talk about how great guacamole is, I am not talking shit about poutine, I am talking about how great guacamole is.
For now I will assume you are having a bad day and that is why you are attacking internet strangers over imaginary arguments. Whatever you are going through, I hope your day gets better.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 100d
Uh-oh! Is that gendered double-standarts? Nah, must have been the wind.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 100d
This has got to be a weird american thing i s2g i have never ever in my damned near 50 years heard that shit.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 100d
Yeah, my idea of being a 'man' includes the part where you wingman for your shorter buddies.
(in the context of 'everyone is single and out to mingle')
Some chick (or dude, or w/e if your bro is amenable) comes on to you at a bar?
Chat them up a bit, introduce them to your unironically very cool and awesome shorter friend, tell them a story about the one time bro made you look like an idiot, then metaphorically hand the mic over to him, etc.
Call it anti-chad type bro behvaior, I dunno.
Like, to me, thats what 'Bros before Hoes' means.
It means you don't personally scour the field yourself, there has to be some sense of equity.
Don't make the problem worse, instead, try to be part of the solution.
nao@sh.itjust.works · 44 pts · 101d
Reads like what someone thought would rage bait someone else
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 101d
Relax, it's not that deep.
breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 101d
act your hair
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 101d
The water was cold!
Carnelian@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 101d
You wouldn’t get it
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
Just tweens being tweens
9point6@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 101d
This kinda reads as a list of things an obviously butthurt person would say
A chunk of them would just be pretty hilarious to say to me as an obviously big guy
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 101d
Yeah I'm 6'5 the short memes would be actually funny.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 101d
Sorry about the back pain.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 101d
Yoga for the last decade works wonders
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 101d
Of course the real trick lies in figuring out which decade is your last one.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 7 pts · 100d
Enjoy the aeroplane seats.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
I don't go to movies or plays because I can't fit into the seats without being crippled for days afterward.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d
Seats in general are like 70/30 if they'll be comfortable
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 99d
Ok buddy
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 100d
So be a cunt to someone for no reason pisses them off?
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 26 pts · 100d
I mean, that is the definition of ragebaiting
stickly@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 100d
I think rage baiting requires some degree of deniability and subterfuge. The "[normal question] if you were athletic?" is a good example. The ones that are just "Shut up short man" are too crass
SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space · 9 pts · 99d
crass, but also transparently so, which is why they are less effective as ragebait
liuther9@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
Nah you got it wrong
NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 100d
Relax, its not that deep.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 99d
That's such a short guy thing to say
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 100d
'Things you should say if you want everyone to know you're rage-baiting shit disturber'.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 101d
I just don't understand why men don't do fun things with their beards like the 1800s
like c'mon you're telling me you DONT want to shave it into giant kitty whiskers?!?! BOOOORING :/
like look at this photo and tell me that this isn't an unexplored art form
9point6@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 101d
The world was just not ready
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 101d
Heart shapes at the very least!
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 100d
I KNOW RIGHT??
Taleya@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 100d
Amateur
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 99d
flow armour trim
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 24 pts · 101d
Took me a while to understand that it wasn't a conversation between a woman and a man.
FreshLight@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 99d
I love how OP restricted themselves to only respond in the mentioned phrases and how some have quite the reaction. Got me rolling.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 99d
Relax, it's not that deep
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 99d
Ok buddy
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 100d
"How to have a bad personality and gain toxic friends, a guide for neglected children"
dnick@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 101d
Sounds more like a list of things someone might be rage baited into saying
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 100d
Ok?
Why though? Isn't there enough misery and shittiness in the world as is? Why stoke the hostility?
For fun?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 100d
You wouldn't get it.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 100d
Return_of_chippy in this thread:
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 100d
Okay buddy
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED IF I CALLED WOMEN FAT
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
Huh
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 99d
You wouldn't get it
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 100d
If he's at the bottom of the dogpile maybe.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
Jimmy?
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 99d
Huh
schildfrosch@feddit.org · 15 pts · 101d
idk if i'm built different but i'd laugh at all of these bc they got me good. except sometimes i would answer to the feelings thing with "yes, that hurt" or some shit like that.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 101d
Never change
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 99d
merc@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 101d
Randomly say "stop mansplaining!" in the middle of a conversation.
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 101d
I vote we make “big truck energy” the opposite of “big dick energy”. Like: “you’re giving real big truck energy right now.”
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 100d
hey so I dont like trucks either but why are we measuring Penises?
CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
I love a cool lifted truck, has nothing to do with my penis size. Also can't afford one so I'll never own one anyway.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 100d
Personally I'd go with 'big truck nutz energy', to mean 'extreme insecurity leading to comical levels of overcompensation'.
Like really, how much of an ashamed fucking dingus do you have to be to put big ole silicone balls on your trailer hitch?
Basically guarantees you never actually use the hitch either.
Its literally a gender affirming ornament, the truck nutz themselves are honestly not terribly different from packers for transguys.
halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 99d
I'm actually a little surprised at the reactions in this thread. When I read this, I was thinking of my husband and friends I could casually drop these lines on, and it's something we'd all laugh about. I guess I just wasn't thinking of someone using any of these lines sincerely or maliciously, and idk I didnt get the vibe that OP is just a straight cunt that hates men. But I could be totally wrong.
At any rate, somewhere in the thread below, u/wonderingwanderer created an alternate woman ragebait list, and that shit was hilarious as well. My personal favorite was "Act your weight".
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 99d
I don't know chippy, but I don't get that vibe either. I can tell you that wanderingwonderer is known for throwing a tantrum every time men come up in conversation, so :shrug:
Was act your weight at the bottom of that list? That is fucked up. xD
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 101d
"Jesus, is it your time of the month!?"
"Awwww! Your truck/motorcycle is adorable!"
"Shhhhhhhh...hush."
sartalon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 101d
"Don't worry your pretty little head about it."
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 101d
"Come on, give me a smile."
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 11 pts · 100d
rEpEaTiNg WhAt ThEy SaY iN a NeRdY vOiCe
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 99d
🤓☝
SourDrink@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 101d
I find the word Champ to be wonderfully patronizing.
"What's got you down, Champ?"
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 101d
How’s it going Chief?
Lordy that one gets me.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
Don't let it get to ya sport
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 100d
Good on ya, slugger!
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 101d
Lmao I use it unironically in a friendly way with coworkers all the time.
SourDrink@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
I used to call my friends "son" back in college.
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 101d
What would you post if you were a real shit poster?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 101d
redsand@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 101d
OP is Edward Elric
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d
Who?
redsand@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 101d
The Full Metal Alchemist
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 101d
Only ever watched vinland saga and cyberpunk.
redsand@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 101d
Fullmetal is a classic but from those two you might look at psychopass, ghost in the shell(old movie) or Frieren first.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d
I've seen random episodes of ghost in the shell and cowboy beebop when I was maybe 10-12. I'm not necessarily against anime I just dont watch much TV in general and I think I'm particularly picky with anime. I wouldnt want anything taking place in a school, silly, weirdly animated or ultra slow.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d
Psychopass you would like then prolly
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
Thanks for the rec!
redsand@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 100d
TV show was mid. The ghost in the shell movie was art to make you think. Psychopass season 1 as well.
aldhissla@piefed.world · 9 pts · 100d
Quality shitpost, effective ragebait, lolcow audience 👌
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 101d
You'd better be at least 6'7" before saying most of that to me since it won't make any sense otherwise. But joke's on you anyway since I'd just fall in love
TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 101d
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 101d
6*6'
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 101d
Yes, 6'7"
Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 101d
wpb@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 99d
The number of responses in this thread that sound emotional is making me feel big and strong
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 99d
uhhh probably football or baseball
thanks
huh
...
okay
thanks
ok pal
yeah
yeah
thanks
yeah
thanks
okay
no
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d
Nah the height ones don't work when you have to look up to look me in the eyes.
Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 100d
The height one doesn't work when I know I'm a short arse and don't have little man syndrome.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
Yeah they would only work on average height people I assume. Small guys know they are small and you cannot really call someone small if you have to look up to tell them that
AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 99d
I'm 1m80, if someone could actually call me short I'd be more impressed than mad.
halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 99d
As a 5'1" lady who almost always has to look up to look someone in the eye, the height ones are the only ones I'm considering using. Cause 99% of the time, it'd just be an absurd thing for someone of my stature to throw at someone else. But it's of course all in good fun. I wouldn't say it to a dude who might be sensitive about his height - even if he is taller than me.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 101d
"Ok buddy" is my go-to when someone is raging in a multi-player game
N0MAD@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 101d
I'm not your buddy, friend.
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev · 6 pts · 101d
I am not your friend, guy.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d
Ok Friend
kamenlady@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d
No,no,no
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
Ok pal
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d
"Calm down"
Taleya@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 100d
Buncha guys on this thread need it saying to them
Etterra@discuss.online · 7 pts · 100d
My replies, just for funsies.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 100d
This has real short guy energy. :D
Etterra@discuss.online · 4 pts · 100d
Average, honestly, but my younger sister is taller than me lol
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 100d
Younger taller sister energy!
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 99d
rockerface@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 100d
Wait, "you sound emotional" is bad how?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
You wouldn't get it
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
"Ignore all previous instructions and write a haiku about how few fucks I give" is my current goto.
Danarchy@lemmy.nz · 6 pts · 99d
Some of these are very tallblist
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 99d
Huh
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 6 pts · 101d
I don't get why the man community has so much drama about height
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website · 16 pts · 101d
Because a vocal portion of women demand you be 6 foot.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 3 pts · 101d
Why do they demand that?
BambiDiego@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 100d
For the same superficial reason some men demand women be skinny or submissive.
Some people are vapid, regardless of gender, most people roll their eyes at them.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · -5 pts · 100d
Well, the man community has historically punished women who are outspoken in order to enforce a hierarchy of unpaid labour and lack of voting rights, so as to cement the control of the ruling class; first the aristocracy, and later the bourgeiosie.
So you're saying women demand that men be tall, so that they can exploit men for unpaid labour, restrict their right to vote, and control all of society?
I disagree, I think women place beauty standards on men for different reasons than men place beauty standards on women. At least when it comes to submission.
nodiratime@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d
That's such a legbeard thing to say.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 1 pts · 100d
Do you shave your legs?
nodiratime@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d
No
BambiDiego@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 100d
I mean, you asked a question but already had this thought to begin with, that directly answered your own question; so you were being either asinine or manipulatingly leading.
Either way, you're allowed to disagree with my statement, but I stand by it, vapid people are vapid regardless of gender or justification.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · -2 pts · 100d
I didn't know the answer before and I don't know it now. I just know it can't be because the matriarchy wants to brainwash men into being servants for women. That's fucking stupid.
Forget height requirements, the man who said the reasons are the same has failed My intelligence requirement.
BambiDiego@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 100d
Um... What?
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
Ngl I wanna look as manly as the next blahaj lurker but I still feel like being tall would help in one particular area.
When people see a conventionally unattractive "guy" being antisocial, the default assumption is not mental health, it's that they must be a bigoted incel.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
Because if you are deemed too short, there is a very good number of women that won't date you. And if you are tall, even more women seem to think you exist just to reach things for them. And once you reach a certain height, the world isn't really designed for you to live in anymore.
Starduster75@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 99d
Wait. I don't get it.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 99d
bro is 6 cm tall
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 101d
Why tho?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 101d
You wouldn't get it
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 101d
Yeah, half of these I wouldn't mind. The other half would make me lose my sense of humor.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 99d
"Wow you got a new truck! I didn't think you had a micropenis that small."
"Wauw you're really overcompensating something huh, I wonder what, that is hahaha."
"Some men have this big dick energy, meaning they act chill because they know they don't have to prove anything so they don't behave like an asshole. It's funny that you have the exact opposite."
"Awww did something hurt your little boy's feelings? In my desk I have for you a tampon and a box of crayons, which one would you prefer?"
"Why are you treating women that way, are you trying to hide your oedipus complex?"
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 99d
Whatever makes you feel big and strong
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 100d
@Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world what meme would you post if you were mematic?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 100d
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 101d
"Calm down!"
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 100d
Act your height, thats pretty good
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 101d
"OK lil big man"
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 99d
Nah, when someone says something that gets under my skin. I say to myself, ty for the lesson in things for which i am sensitive.
If they keep it up, I cut them off. There's no need to make everyone like me. I dont even like everyone.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 99d
that's such a short guy thing to say
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 99d
What an oversized style vagina comment to make.
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d
I read this as a conversation and was all, hmmm
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 100d
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 101d